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Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
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Posted - 2014.12.03 04:52:03 -
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Shelom Severasse wrote:Ares Desideratus wrote:A Thorax can do anything an Omen can do at any range + it has extra utility in mid slots hahahahahahahaha bro just stop already my sides cant take much more but seriously. at kiting range the thorax NEEDS rails, at brawl range the thorax NEEDS blasters. where as the omen just needs pulses. a thorax CANNOT do everything an omen can. DIFFERENT ships are DIFFERENT. So what if it NEEDS rails to kite, it can still get the job done and arguably better than an Omen because same stats but extra utility.
Is there any way to unswallow my pride? Can I fuck myself down?
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Reynas Arthie
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
4
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Posted - 2014.12.03 05:09:56 -
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Ares Desideratus wrote:Hey, here's a solution to crap ships! just don't fly them! Geez wish I would have thought of that !
Here is a shovel. That hole you keep digging just gets bigger and deeper. |
Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
178
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Posted - 2014.12.03 05:18:06 -
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Oh no, you mean I'm making a fool of myself on an internet forum ?
Damn... I don't know what to do with my life now.
Can't say I'm surprised by these responses though. Same thing happened when I said they should make Tech 3 Dessies. Boom, now it's happening.
I also remember calling for the Nighthawk to get that resist bonus like the Drake and people said I was dumb then too.
Is there any way to unswallow my pride? Can I fuck myself down?
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To mare
Advanced Technology
381
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Posted - 2014.12.03 05:46:49 -
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just stop feeding the troll |
The-Ron-Coyote
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.03 09:09:44 -
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Kosetzu wrote:
Hate to tell you but that is what is good about the game. Not everything needs to have the same things.
This pretty much sums up all ship griping that is involved with the game itself.
Truth is while each race has it's strengths and weaknesses. There is no perfect way to go. There is no skill set that makes you unstoppable. |
ggodhsup
internet spaceship relocation movement
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Posted - 2014.12.03 09:40:21 -
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Ares Desideratus wrote: people said I was dumb then too.
maybe they are onto something.....
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Kalihira
Ultramar Independent Contracting
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Posted - 2014.12.03 09:56:11 -
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ggodhsup wrote:Ares Desideratus wrote: people said I was dumb then too. maybe they are onto something.....
I pretty much gave up on the guy.... |
ggodhsup
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Posted - 2014.12.03 11:19:15 -
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im not going to.
Ares Desideratus wrote:. Boom, now it's happening.
you sig is offensive....and you need a facebook.
look for attention elsewhere.....you are ruining my forum experience.
seriously....when was the last time you used an amarr cruiser.....you kb says.....never......well.....maybe you lost one.....then made this miraculous discovery.
to which you ran to the forums to tell everyone about.....and now.....everyone thinks your a dunce.
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Abby Silverwind
Demonic Retribution
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Posted - 2014.12.03 14:14:02 -
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Nothing wrong with Amarr ships. Maybe there not part of the meta atm but Nomen, omen, Naug, maller, arby, all great ships when fitted and used correctly.
Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil,
for you are with me;
Your rod and your staff,
they comfort me.
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Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
178
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Posted - 2014.12.03 16:17:03 -
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ggodhsup wrote:im not going to. Ares Desideratus wrote:. Boom, now it's happening.
you sig is offensive....and you need a facebook. look for attention elsewhere.....you are ruining my forum experience. seriously....when was the last time you used an amarr cruiser.....you kb says.....never......well.....maybe you lost one.....then made this miraculous discovery. to which you ran to the forums to tell everyone about.....and now.....everyone thinks your a dunce. EDIT: wait you have lost a few....to blaster ships.....dont you know that they have terrible falloff?....or are you blaming amarr cruisers being bad on the premise that you only fly the omen and then try to brawl with blaster ships with it? you really are a dunce. EDIT EDIT: OP is gimped....close thread please. You can't exploit the terrible falloff of the Thorax without range control. So you are completely outclassed in scram range and the only option left is to use Scorch at long range. At that point the Thorax can easily be fit to do the same thing (kite at long range) only with extra utility in mid slot.
Is there any way to unswallow my pride? Can I fuck myself down?
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Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
178
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Posted - 2014.12.03 16:25:59 -
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Abby Silverwind wrote:Nothing wrong with Amarr ships. Maybe there not part of the meta atm but Nomen, omen, Naug, maller, arby, all great ships when fitted and used correctly. You're making the mistake of throwing navy ships in there when I have no beef with them.
Focus on the three Tech 1s you put in there, the Omen, Maller and Arby.
The only thing the maller is good for is being a slow brick tanked sitting duck. Oh hey apparently people fly in Maller fleets so apparently it must not be crap. People fly in Velator fleets too but it's good on them for exploiting the armor tank and range of the Maller. It's still crap
The Omen can't do anything better than the other cruisers. It is completely out-classed in scram range, like, you stand no chance in scram range because of no range or no brawling ability. Even if you fit it with AB + scram + web you still have no range control because other cruisers can do the exact same thing but with TWO webs. You are left to kite with Scorch. The problem here is that every other cruiser can be fit to kite and do it just as well as the Omen, with the Thorax being just as good at kiting but with extra utility in mid slots. The Stabber has a decent chunk of speed advantage right off the bat.
The Arbitrator is as slow as a Rupture but has no tank and barely any DPS. It's an embarassment.
Is there any way to unswallow my pride? Can I fuck myself down?
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Shelom Severasse
The Maythorn
30
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Posted - 2014.12.03 19:46:04 -
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Im gonna laugh when i pop whatever youre flying with an omen. Then, ill post the link in this thread. So it gets locked. And then everyone will see the last comment in this thread with your being killed by an omen. #imcomingforyakourmonen |
Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
178
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Posted - 2014.12.03 20:05:30 -
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Shelom Severasse wrote:Im gonna laugh when i pop whatever youre flying with an omen. Then, ill post the link in this thread. So it gets locked. And then everyone will see the last comment in this thread with your being killed by an omen. #imcomingforyakourmonen
I've gotten kills with a Impairor. That doesn't make it a good pvp ship.
In a 1v1, I will dominate you from beginning to end.
Is there any way to unswallow my pride? Can I fuck myself down?
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Shelom Severasse
The Maythorn
30
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Posted - 2014.12.03 21:31:36 -
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Sure |
ggodhsup
internet spaceship relocation movement
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Posted - 2014.12.03 22:01:03 -
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Ares Desideratus wrote:ggodhsup wrote:im not going to. Ares Desideratus wrote:. Boom, now it's happening.
you sig is offensive....and you need a facebook. look for attention elsewhere.....you are ruining my forum experience. seriously....when was the last time you used an amarr cruiser.....you kb says.....never......well.....maybe you lost one.....then made this miraculous discovery. to which you ran to the forums to tell everyone about.....and now.....everyone thinks your a dunce. EDIT: wait you have lost a few....to blaster ships.....dont you know that they have terrible falloff?....or are you blaming amarr cruisers being bad on the premise that you only fly the omen and then try to brawl with blaster ships with it? you really are a dunce. EDIT EDIT: OP is gimped....close thread please. You can't exploit the terrible falloff of the Thorax without range control. So you are completely outclassed in scram range and the only option left is to use Scorch at long range. At that point the Thorax can easily be fit to do the same thing (kite at long range) only with extra utility in mid slot.
your damage will be exactly the same with pulses and scorch at long range.....range control against a thorax isnt difficult....stay out of web range.....done. which is the falloff of blasters even with null. so med utility slot is kinda moot....what? is he/she going cap boost his/her way into range? you have obviously never piloted anything but amarr......try training another race.
im not sure how many rail thoraxes youve seen.....but a worm would have its way with one.(or anything fast enough to outrun/track med drones) |
Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
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Posted - 2014.12.03 22:22:38 -
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You say that while conveniently ignoring the fact that the Thorax can be just as effective at kiting, or even more effective at it, than the Omen.
And as if an Omen is the bane of kiting Worms or something. Sure there is definitely a slightly greater chance that you will be able to land good shots on a Worm with Heavy Pulses than with 250mm Railguns, but both can be used and both can be effective, even against a kiting Worm. The tracking advantage is less significant than the speed of both the Omen and Thorax giving them the ability to pull range and cut transversal velocity to land good dps.
So what's left for the Omen ? It is completely out-classed in scram range and outside of scram range it can barely equal itself out with the other cruisers.
Is there any way to unswallow my pride? Can I fuck myself down?
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Reynas Arthie
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2014.12.03 23:01:03 -
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In the words of Agony Unleashed
Stop Sucking! |
Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
178
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Posted - 2014.12.03 23:23:45 -
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That's what I'm saying man.
The Omen needs to stop sucking right now.
Is there any way to unswallow my pride? Can I fuck myself down?
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ggodhsup
internet spaceship relocation movement
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Posted - 2014.12.04 16:17:16 -
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Ares Desideratus wrote:Shelom Severasse wrote:Im gonna laugh when i pop whatever youre flying with an omen. Then, ill post the link in this thread. So it gets locked. And then everyone will see the last comment in this thread with your being killed by an omen. #imcomingforyakourmonen I've gotten kills with a Impairor. That doesn't make it a good pvp ship. In a 1v1, I will dominate you from beginning to end.
make sure to bring your gimped omen.....im sure the domination will be awesome.
and a rail rax has no tank.......try to fit one.....try it.
better yet.....try to fit a thorax with long range anything and a tank.
you are missing everything these people are telling you.
P.S. your sig still has the f word in it. it makes you look stupid. that should have been the red flag.
i feel like you are a veers alt. oh yeah.....your avatar is ugly and you suck at pvp.....dont blame ships for your inadequacy. |
Kalihira
Ultramar Independent Contracting
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Posted - 2014.12.04 19:36:53 -
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He's pretty clueless, just don't feed the troll..... |
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Medalyn Isis
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.04 20:00:32 -
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The maller is great. Arbitrator is great at it's role also. The omen could do with being buffed in some area to make it stand out from the maller, as there are only edge cases where it is not better to use a maller everytime.
As for the premise that Amarr cruiser are bad though, I disagree.
Edit - The omen is still viable though, OP sounds like he is just bad. But if we are on the subject of balance it could do with a little more to stand out from the maller. |
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
650
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Posted - 2014.12.04 20:26:25 -
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Amarr ships are proper gank ships in EVE. They scare off most people including alliances because they don't stand down well. It's do or die with Amarr and if you find you are dying more than doing the only alternative is to bring more ships. |
Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
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Posted - 2014.12.05 02:00:47 -
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ggodhsup wrote:Ares Desideratus wrote:Shelom Severasse wrote:Im gonna laugh when i pop whatever youre flying with an omen. Then, ill post the link in this thread. So it gets locked. And then everyone will see the last comment in this thread with your being killed by an omen. #imcomingforyakourmonen I've gotten kills with a Impairor. That doesn't make it a good pvp ship. In a 1v1, I will dominate you from beginning to end. make sure to bring your gimped omen.....im sure the domination will be awesome. and a rail rax has no tank.......try to fit one.....try it. better yet.....try to fit a thorax with long range anything and a tank. you are missing everything these people are telling you. P.S. your sig still has the f word in it. it makes you look stupid. that should have been the red flag. i feel like you are a veers alt. oh yeah.....your avatar is ugly and you suck at pvp.....dont blame ships for your inadequacy. oh ok then.
Sorry for using bad word haha
You will sing a different tune if you 1v1 me.
Is there any way to unswallow my pride? Can I fuck myself down?
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ggodhsup
internet spaceship relocation movement
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Posted - 2014.12.05 03:15:55 -
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Ares Desideratus wrote:ggodhsup wrote:Ares Desideratus wrote:Shelom Severasse wrote:Im gonna laugh when i pop whatever youre flying with an omen. Then, ill post the link in this thread. So it gets locked. And then everyone will see the last comment in this thread with your being killed by an omen. #imcomingforyakourmonen I've gotten kills with a Impairor. That doesn't make it a good pvp ship. In a 1v1, I will dominate you from beginning to end. make sure to bring your gimped omen.....im sure the domination will be awesome. and a rail rax has no tank.......try to fit one.....try it. better yet.....try to fit a thorax with long range anything and a tank. you are missing everything these people are telling you. P.S. your sig still has the f word in it. it makes you look stupid. that should have been the red flag. i feel like you are a veers alt. oh yeah.....your avatar is ugly and you suck at pvp.....dont blame ships for your inadequacy. oh ok then. Sorry for using bad word haha You will sing a different tune if you 1v1 me.
doubt it. i use good ships apparently.
anytime you want ....im stationed in hek currently. chump.
your hollow apology earned you a report ticket.
and you are more than welcome to bring your badness to hek.
i will use my utility midslot to own the pants off you.
bring a BS.....you are gonna need it.
P.S. your avatar is ugly.
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Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
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Posted - 2014.12.05 03:31:53 -
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Woah, easy partner, I surrender!
If the signature is so bad then why wasn't it censored ? It's ok according to the forum rules, so if CCP decide it should be censored than they will edit it.
And what is wrong with being ugly, son ? I am not here to support the fascism of beauty, didn't you ever read the Ugly Duckling? That's a story where all the ducks think that this one duck was ugly, then it turned out it was actually a beautiful swan.
And I accept your challenge.
You will fall.
Is there any way to unswallow my pride? Can I fuck myself down?
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ggodhsup
internet spaceship relocation movement
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Posted - 2014.12.05 03:40:55 -
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Ares Desideratus wrote:Woah, easy partner, I surrender!
If the signature is so bad then why wasn't it censored ? It's ok according to the forum rules, so if CCP decide it should be censored than they will edit it.
And what is wrong with being ugly, son ? I am not here to support the fascism of beauty, didn't you ever read the Ugly Duckling? That's a story where all the ducks think that this one duck was ugly, then it turned out it was actually a beautiful swan.
And I accept your challenge.
You will fall.
i hate that i feed trolls....you are a troll.....im probably older than you.
you condescending use of the word "son".....is just stupid......maybe i will teach you a thing or two about kiting....since you apparently cant outrun a thorax. |
Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
178
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Posted - 2014.12.05 03:58:52 -
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One way or another you are going down.
I will explode your space ship, within seconds. And you will bow at my feet.
Is there any way to unswallow my pride? Can I fuck myself down?
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Shelom Severasse
The Maythorn
32
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Posted - 2014.12.05 05:43:34 -
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How in the hell is beauty a fascist idea
Do you even know what fascism is? |
Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
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Posted - 2014.12.05 05:56:00 -
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I didn't say beauty was a fascist idea but beauty has been used in history for fascist agendas.
Fascism is when corporations become government
In some cases fascism comes from the media and a cultural demand for how people should act, dress, behave and think in most cases a certain worship of beauty often occurs.
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Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
296
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Posted - 2014.12.08 05:32:59 -
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The Zealot is a great HAC. Tiny sig radius but solid range. The Guardian is a staple of most armor fleets. The Legion sees widespread use in T3 gangs.
Their Recons are a bit outclassed. I don't remember when was the last time I saw an Amarr Recon in fleet.
The T1 cruisers are okay ships. The Arbi especially sees use even in T2 heavy fleets. As an anti-frig/tackle ship, the Arbi is a lot of fun. |
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