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Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2014.11.29 22:07:37 -
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It seems harsh that a pod using jump bridges gets punished the same as a battleship or marauder. They gave most non combat ships a reduction to jump fatigue so why not pods and shuttles? Yes I understand they can fly somewhere and assemble a ship but they have to be able to do that. Its not like they have one to jump portal in. Please revisit CCP? Kind of harsh. |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates Forged of Fire
651
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Posted - 2014.11.29 22:08:46 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:It seems harsh that a pod using jump bridges gets punished the same as a battleship or marauder. They gave most non combat ships a reduction to jump fatigue so why not pods and shuttles? Yes I understand they can fly somewhere and assemble a ship but they have to be able to do that. Its not like they have one to jump portal in. Please revisit CCP? Kind of harsh.
Use a gate.
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Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
22
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Posted - 2014.11.29 22:10:25 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:It seems harsh that a pod using jump bridges gets punished the same as a battleship or marauder. They gave most non combat ships a reduction to jump fatigue so why not pods and shuttles? Yes I understand they can fly somewhere and assemble a ship but they have to be able to do that. Its not like they have one to jump portal in. Please revisit CCP? Kind of harsh. Use a gate. It often takes 4 jumps more? |
Lugh Crow-Slave
239
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Posted - 2014.11.29 22:13:40 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:FT Diomedes wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:It seems harsh that a pod using jump bridges gets punished the same as a battleship or marauder. They gave most non combat ships a reduction to jump fatigue so why not pods and shuttles? Yes I understand they can fly somewhere and assemble a ship but they have to be able to do that. Its not like they have one to jump portal in. Please revisit CCP? Kind of harsh. Use a gate. It often takes 4 jumps more?
are you really complaining about 4 jumps??
as to the OP this would go against the point of fatigue the idea was to make it harder to move pilots around the ships are still mostly easy to do |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
1755
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Posted - 2014.11.29 23:31:39 -
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No ship is a combat ship until a pilot us plugged in. Fatigue is to dyer player teleportation, not so much ships. |
Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2014.11.29 23:38:23 -
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Where do I put guns on my shuttle or pod? Oh that's right you cant. They arnt combat ships. They did this to reduce power projection. My shuttle and pod can project so much power. NOT. |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
1755
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Posted - 2014.11.29 23:42:27 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Where do I put guns on my shuttle or pod? Oh that's right you cant. They arnt combat ships. They did this to reduce power projection. My shuttle and pod can project so much power. NOT. It doesn't matter, because you can ship up pretty quickly from any position.you can't just assume you're going to get to your destination and not participate in any combat. It would just become the easiest workaround.
And before you try sending it again, it is not the ships that project the power, it is the pilots. I have never seen a marauder unpiloted trying to kill someone |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates Forged of Fire
651
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Posted - 2014.11.29 23:43:51 -
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"Ships don't kill things. Pilots do."
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
6637
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Posted - 2014.11.30 00:07:28 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Where do I put guns on my shuttle or pod? Oh that's right you cant. They arnt combat ships. They did this to reduce power projection. My shuttle and pod can project so much power. NOT. You missed the point. You, as a pilot, ARE the power.
If you can jump a large distance across the map from one stash of ships to another you are, in fact, projecting power. Hence why you incur jump fatigue in a shuttle.
Now you could get around this by using an Industrial Ship as a makeshift shuttle... but you are slower, less mobile, and a bigger target in one.
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
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Gawain Edmond
Angry Mustellid The Periphery
142
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Posted - 2014.11.30 00:12:32 -
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just use black ops bridge networks and cloaky haulers if you need to get around places quickly |
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Cartheron Crust
Matari Exodus
153
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Posted - 2014.11.30 00:24:41 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:It seems harsh. . .
Welcome to EVE.
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
2006
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Posted - 2014.11.30 03:37:32 -
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Industrial ships have reduced jump fatigue because they are used to haul goods long distances. You can try using an industrial for traveling, but alternatively you can take more gates and use an interceptor.
Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance)
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FireFrenzy
Satan's Unicorns
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Posted - 2014.11.30 08:55:15 -
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You realized they did this whole jump stuff to avoid EXACTLY THE SORT OF THING you are advocating should be legal...
I have eft warriored you up a fit,
[Malediction, New Setup 1] Inertia Stabilizers II Inertia Stabilizers II Inertia Stabilizers II Inertia Stabilizers II
1MN Microwarpdrive II Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket 'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket 'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
It warps at 12.2 AUS, costs next to nothing and aligns in under 2 server ticks... It also fits a full rack of tackle incase you decide you need one on your shopping cart...
You are very welcome, please learn how to stargate... |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
2009
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Posted - 2014.11.30 11:35:07 -
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FireFrenzy wrote: 1MN Microwarpdrive II Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II
needs ECM burst
Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance)
"What if [climate change is] a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?" -comic on Greenmonk
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Presidente Gallente
Dark-Rising Executive Outcomes
136
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Posted - 2014.11.30 11:55:16 -
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Use a Blockade Runner before you post |
FireFrenzy
Satan's Unicorns
100
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Posted - 2014.11.30 11:58:45 -
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Oh good idea:)
Because tackle inties with ECM burst seem fair right...
EDIT: you prolly want to use a crusader it aligns a wheee bit faster these days, still under 2 ticks but it might get you a bit more wriggle room... |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
544
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Posted - 2014.11.30 13:56:42 -
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FireFrenzy wrote:You realized they did this whole jump stuff to avoid EXACTLY THE SORT OF THING you are advocating should be legal...
I have eft warriored you up a fit,
[Malediction, New Setup 1] Inertia Stabilizers II Inertia Stabilizers II Inertia Stabilizers II Inertia Stabilizers II
1MN Microwarpdrive II Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket 'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket 'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
It warps at 12.2 AUS, costs next to nothing and aligns in under 2 server ticks... It also fits a full rack of tackle incase you decide you need one on your shopping cart...
You are very welcome, please learn how to stargate...
if not wanting to potentially shoot/tackle rip out the web and scram and throw on passive shield resists. Not saying its disco proof but may help to say at least you tried. Have a travel raptor that squeezes passive resist in anyway. It is really a point A to point B ship fit to highly not give ideas of engaging anything lol. Highs if you do this players choice. ecm an idea but to be honest if something instalocked you....its not a good sign potentially.
Passive resists to be well passive. if disco ball bursts at a bad time you may not have the time to click active hards on. |
Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
23
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Posted - 2014.12.02 01:35:05 -
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You people have completely missed the point of this thread. |
Eldwinn
SomeWhat SophiSticateD Shadow Cartel
128
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Posted - 2014.12.02 01:39:17 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:It seems harsh that a pod using jump bridges gets punished the same as a battleship or marauder. They gave most non combat ships a reduction to jump fatigue so why not pods and shuttles? Yes I understand they can fly somewhere and assemble a ship but they have to be able to do that. Its not like they have one to jump portal in. Please revisit CCP? Kind of harsh.
This is the second thread I saw from you today. Sir, you are cancer. Your threads are cancer. Stop posting. |
James Baboli
Ferrous Infernum
305
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Posted - 2014.12.02 02:34:58 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:You people have completely missed the point of this thread. If your idea is so unclear that everyone misses the point, then is it there fault or yours? If you want a change made, burden of proof that the change is at least not harmful to the game and burden of at least one workable way of implementing it are on you, as is the burden of communication.
Making battleships worth the warp
Tech 3 battleships.
Moar battleships
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Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2014.12.02 05:02:32 -
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James Baboli wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:You people have completely missed the point of this thread. If your idea is so unclear that everyone misses the point, then is it there fault or yours? If you want a change made, burden of proof that the change is at least not harmful to the game and burden of at least one workable way of implementing it are on you, as is the burden of communication. You people took it in the direction of flaming and stuff. What I am getting at is moving from a pvp system to my ratting system. Penalizing ships that cant fit anything. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
14072
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Posted - 2014.12.02 05:29:25 -
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Use a cov ops and use gates. Zero jump fatigue and rather nippy.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2793
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Posted - 2014.12.02 10:34:11 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post.
The Rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
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Interstellar Services Department
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afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
544
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Posted - 2014.12.02 11:16:03 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:James Baboli wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:You people have completely missed the point of this thread. If your idea is so unclear that everyone misses the point, then is it there fault or yours? If you want a change made, burden of proof that the change is at least not harmful to the game and burden of at least one workable way of implementing it are on you, as is the burden of communication. You people took it in the direction of flaming and stuff. What I am getting at is moving from a pvp system to my ratting system. Penalizing ships that cant fit anything.
Stop being lazy and fly there. A well fit interceptor will traverse about 2 systems per minute +/-.
Just how far away are you? Hell a couple of bridges gives you workable fatigue unless you're fannying about teleporting like the sorceress from diablo II. |
Rosira
Warframe Industry And Salvage Fortis Et Certus
4
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Posted - 2014.12.02 12:11:40 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:It seems harsh that a pod using jump bridges gets punished the same as a battleship or marauder. They gave most non combat ships a reduction to jump fatigue so why not pods and shuttles? Yes I understand they can fly somewhere and assemble a ship but they have to be able to do that. Its not like they have one to jump portal in. Please revisit CCP? Kind of harsh.
Seems fair that a Pod gets the same deal as its the Pilot who is being Fatigued not the hull. |
Apul MadeekAoud
M. Corp Engineering Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2014.12.02 18:26:19 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:James Baboli wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:You people have completely missed the point of this thread. If your idea is so unclear that everyone misses the point, then is it there fault or yours? If you want a change made, burden of proof that the change is at least not harmful to the game and burden of at least one workable way of implementing it are on you, as is the burden of communication. You people took it in the direction of flaming and stuff. What I am getting at is moving from a pvp system to my ratting system. Penalizing ships that cant fit anything.
Because of jump clones |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1384
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Posted - 2014.12.02 18:38:16 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:James Baboli wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:You people have completely missed the point of this thread. If your idea is so unclear that everyone misses the point, then is it there fault or yours? If you want a change made, burden of proof that the change is at least not harmful to the game and burden of at least one workable way of implementing it are on you, as is the burden of communication. You people took it in the direction of flaming and stuff. What I am getting at is moving from a pvp system to my ratting system. Penalizing ships that cant fit anything.
Too bad your fit less shuttle and POD can't fit the built-in jump fatigue atenuator every industrial ships have... |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
804
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Posted - 2014.12.02 19:06:18 -
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The problem with the OP's request is that the same thing that may well be of totally benign and limited use to him could easily be used by nullsec powers to overcome much of the reduction in jump-related power-projection in Phoebe.
Sorry, can't support it.
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