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Bl1SkR1N
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2014.12.01 08:23:43 -
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Is there going to be any? You cant be possible happy about how some ships perform. In sov wars everyone and his grandma flies tengus, and if they dont have tengus they bring ishtars. You dont need dps graphs to knos tengu is broken if every bigger alliance uses it. Its pretty depressing to watch those tengu fleets slowly trying to kill each other. Are you gonna do anything about it? |
Leonard Nimoy II
Dark Force Protectorate Special Operators Federation Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.01 08:49:48 -
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I have seen proteus fleets....but yer. Personally would like to see the long-awaited recon ship rebalance. |
Arla Sarain
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Posted - 2014.12.01 09:02:20 -
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Scorch is being rebalanced. |
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
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Posted - 2014.12.01 09:08:17 -
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Arla Sarain wrote:Scorch is being rebalanced.
And Pulse lasers in general are being tweaked.
--Gadget
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
14065
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Posted - 2014.12.01 10:20:04 -
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Tengu nerf soonGäó
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Viribus
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2014.12.01 10:27:10 -
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the problem isn't so much tengus as it is medium rails, and tengus are the best medium rail platform. The Tengu hull isn't really any better than the other T3s (except Lokis, but everything's better than Lokis)
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Komodo Askold
No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
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Posted - 2014.12.01 11:21:17 -
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Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:Arla Sarain wrote:Scorch is being rebalanced. And Pulse lasers in general are being tweaked. --Gadget As well as Beam Lasers.
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Syrias Bizniz
Krautfleet
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Posted - 2014.12.01 11:23:17 -
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Komodo Askold wrote:Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:Arla Sarain wrote:Scorch is being rebalanced. And Pulse lasers in general are being tweaked. --Gadget As well as Beam Lasers.
Also, all Assault frigs are getting a stealth nerf because why fly them if you could also get a Confessor! |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
14065
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Posted - 2014.12.01 11:29:13 -
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Viribus wrote:the problem isn't so much tengus as it is medium rails, and tengus are the best medium rail platform. The Tengu hull isn't really any better than the other T3s (except Lokis, but everything's better than Lokis)
Nope its the hulls.
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Faren Shalni
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2014.12.01 12:20:56 -
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baltec1 wrote:Viribus wrote:the problem isn't so much tengus as it is medium rails, and tengus are the best medium rail platform. The Tengu hull isn't really any better than the other T3s (except Lokis, but everything's better than Lokis) Nope its the hulls.
Nope it's a subsystem
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.01 12:24:27 -
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Syrias Bizniz wrote:Komodo Askold wrote:Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:Arla Sarain wrote:Scorch is being rebalanced. And Pulse lasers in general are being tweaked. --Gadget As well as Beam Lasers. Also, all Assault frigs are getting a stealth nerf because why fly them if you could also get a Confessor! because you can eat a confessor in one if you can catch it, af's are fine(mostly)
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Bl1SkR1N
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2014.12.01 12:29:57 -
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baltec1 wrote:Viribus wrote:the problem isn't so much tengus as it is medium rails, and tengus are the best medium rail platform. The Tengu hull isn't really any better than the other T3s (except Lokis, but everything's better than Lokis) Nope its the hulls.
I think it's both.
Tengus were not that bad ehen they were using missiles since you could at least counter their dps with firewalls. With rails its way harder since honestly no one can track disrupt 150tengus effectively. Althought cfc with their blob of fu fleets sometimes does the job fine :D
Hulls are problem because they are insanely easy to fit for very cheap price. With t3 modes you can get ehp higher that battleship. On top of this you are perfectly cap stable and your sig radius stays relatively small. You can achieve this on any other t3 eve withh 1bil fits.
So it's more complicated to fix the problem without damaging something else. Not to mention all the different subs and stats...so I understand that this is not easy task but atleast some minor tweak would be nice. I think most people are sick of tengus already.
Also nerf ishtar bonuses. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
14068
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Posted - 2014.12.01 12:37:27 -
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Bl1SkR1N wrote:baltec1 wrote:Viribus wrote:the problem isn't so much tengus as it is medium rails, and tengus are the best medium rail platform. The Tengu hull isn't really any better than the other T3s (except Lokis, but everything's better than Lokis) Nope its the hulls. I think it's both. Tengus were not that bad ehen they were using missiles since you could at least counter their dps with firewalls. With rails its way harder since honestly no one can track disrupt 150tengus effectively. Althought cfc with their blob of fu fleets sometimes does the job fine :D Hulls are problem because they are insanely easy to fit for very cheap price. With t3 modes you can get ehp higher that battleship. On top of this you are perfectly cap stable and your sig radius stays relatively small. You can achieve this on any other t3 eve withh 1bil fits. So it's more complicated to fix the problem without damaging something else. Not to mention all the different subs and stats...so I understand that this is not easy task but atleast some minor tweak would be nice. I think most people are sick of tengus already. Also nerf ishtar bonuses.
Tengus are gonna be nerfed most likely next year. Ishtar is fine, it just needs to lose the sentries.
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Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2014.12.01 15:50:51 -
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So, recently I've seen Tengu, Proteus, Dominix, Vexor, Ishtar, Ferox, Armageddon, Caracal, Cerberus, Eagle, Naga, Rokh and more as the main fleet components and then there's all the support ships, then fleets of assault frigates etc.
I'm not sure what the problem is. Most of it all seems fine to me. |
Bl1SkR1N
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2014.12.01 23:19:56 -
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Tchulen wrote:So, recently I've seen Tengu, Proteus, Dominix, Vexor, Ishtar, Ferox, Armageddon, Caracal, Cerberus, Eagle, Naga, Rokh and more as the main fleet components and then there's all the support ships, then fleets of assault frigates etc.
I'm not sure what the problem is. Most of it all seems fine to me.
I think i said what problem is in post above |
Mharius Skjem
Opacity Circles
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Posted - 2014.12.02 00:18:15 -
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Bl1SkR1N wrote:Is there going to be any? You cant be possible happy about how some ships perform. In sov wars everyone and his grandma flies tengus, and if they dont have tengus they bring ishtars. You dont need dps graphs to knos tengu is broken if every bigger alliance uses it. Its pretty depressing to watch those tengu fleets slowly trying to kill each other. Are you gonna do anything about it?
All this tengu hate. Are you an ishkur pilot by any chance?
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Bl1SkR1N
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2014.12.02 09:08:32 -
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Mharius Skjem wrote:Bl1SkR1N wrote:Is there going to be any? You cant be possible happy about how some ships perform. In sov wars everyone and his grandma flies tengus, and if they dont have tengus they bring ishtars. You dont need dps graphs to knos tengu is broken if every bigger alliance uses it. Its pretty depressing to watch those tengu fleets slowly trying to kill each other. Are you gonna do anything about it? All this tengu hate. Are you an ishkur pilot by any chance? Not hate at all, I just like to see diversity. Different ships to counter fleets. Right now it's just tengus everywhere and ocasionally drones. When was the last time anyone saw ahac fleet that wasnt total welp or even bloody tier3snipers. |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
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Posted - 2014.12.02 09:41:06 -
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Bl1SkR1N wrote:Is there going to be any? You cant be possible happy about how some ships perform. In sov wars everyone and his grandma flies tengus, and if they dont have tengus they bring ishtars. You dont need dps graphs to knos tengu is broken if every bigger alliance uses it. Its pretty depressing to watch those tengu fleets slowly trying to kill each other. Are you gonna do anything about it?
Just pay attention at signals. Why do you think they are introducing T3 destroyers? To create a new demand for t3 components. Why is that needed, because they do not want to break wormhole economy when they finally hit t3 cruisers with a GIANT nerfbat.
For me this si a clear sign that the nerf bat will be HEAVY.
The ishtar onother hand.. well the current game design team seems fixated on the concept of gallente online on the last 3 years.. so do not hold your breath.
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