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Marus Sulla
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
19
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Posted - 2014.12.01 18:27:46 -
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MasuatGÇÖaa Matari Red Book
In line with the 10 year celebrations of U'K it has been agreed that selected portions of the MasuatGÇÖaa Warrior Code a.k.a the Red Book be declassified and shared. This is given to every recruit on initiation. With this in mind over the coming four weeks these selected portions will be published to the I.G.S. as part information part history, and will hopefully contribute to a wider understanding of -MM- .The first part consists of an introduction to the corp and its motivation.
Introduction
GÇ£Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves.GÇ¥
The MasuatGÇÖaa as representatives of the Minmatar people, are morally justified in carrying out a campaign of resistance against foreign forces and domestic collaborators. All warriors are and must feel morally justified in carrying out the dictates of the Chifu and TaGÇÖMak Officers of the corp as well as those tasked with prosecuting the struggle such as UshraGÇÖKhan fleet commanders and Council members.
Before any potential Warrior decides to join the MasuatGÇÖaa he or she should understand fully and clearly what is involved. He should not join because of emotionalism, sensationalism, or adventurism. He should examine fully his own motives, knowing the dangers involved and knowing that he will find an enemy hand turned against him at every turn. He is expected to wage a military war of liberation against a numerically superior force. This struggle will be measured in generations NOT in years
What Are Our Goals?
GÇ£If you're confused about what to do, it's a sign that your enemy is winning.GÇ¥
Our goals can be summed up in the single expression which has come to encapsulate the heart of our mission.
We Come For Our People.
The ultimate goal is the liberation of all slaves and the destruction of the system that allows this abomination against humanity to prosper.
This goal will be achieved by achieving long or short term objectives as the struggle dictates. From the destruction of the Amarr Empire and its capusleer corporations engaged in slavery to short term tactical wars to deny the enemy resources.
Who is the enemy?
GÇ£Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally.GÇ¥
The enemy,generally speaking, are all those opposed to our short-term or long-term objectives. But having said that, we must realise that all our enemies are not the same and therefore there is no common cure for their enmity. The conclusion then is that we must categorise and then suggest cures for each category.Some examples: We have enemies through ignorance, through our own fault or default and of course the main enemy is the status quo which allows the religious system of Amarr, which has persecuted our race, to persist.
The enemy through ignorance we attempt to cure through education though such an attempt is obviously futile if we do not firstly educate ourselves. Our means are battlefield action, protest, official communication, publications and of course person-to-person communication. But as has already been stated, we must first educate ourselves, we must be prepared to lead in the battlefield, we must organise the protests and demonstrations efficiently and we must be prepared to engage with the wider capsuleer community.
The enemy through our own fault or default is the one we create ourselves through our personal conduct and through our collective conduct of the struggle such as the neutral caught in crossfire in space or the family and neighbours of an informer who has been punished without their being informed why. In brief our personal conduct as well as our conduct of our activities must be aimed at if not enhancing support, at least not creating enemies unnecessarily.
The status quo are all those who have a vested interest in allowing the institution of slavery to continue which has had such a devastating effect on our people. This obviously includes the Amarrian machinery of state but also includes those among our own people who collaborate, the Caldari State Corporations who now do likewise, Pirate capsuleers that disrupt our operations, individuals such as [REDACTED] targeted specifically and any who turn a blind eye.
It is our task therefore to clearly identify them to our people as such and again depending on the existing conditions and our ability to effect a cure. Execution, as earlier stated is not the only way of making any category of enemy ineffective: we can variously expose them as liars, hypocrites and collaborators or make them subjects of ridicule.
We Come For Our People.
MM Recruitment is open.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=386561
http://masuataa.org/
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1483
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Posted - 2014.12.01 19:46:13 -
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Marus Sulla wrote: The status quo are all those who have a vested interest in allowing the institution of slavery to continue which has had such a devastating effect on our people. This obviously includes the Amarrian machinery of state but also includes those among our own people who collaborate, the Caldari State Corporations who now do likewise, Pirate capsuleers that disrupt our operations, individuals such as [REDACTED] targeted specifically and any who turn a blind eye.
It is our task therefore to clearly identify them to our people as such and again depending on the existing conditions and our ability to effect a cure. Execution, as earlier stated is not the only way of making any category of enemy ineffective: we can variously expose them as liars, hypocrites and collaborators or make them subjects of ridicule.
About lies and ridiculing. I have come here to ridicule at a liar, who was claiming that State was collaborating with slavery.
This is one of the stupidiest lies ever. Slavery is outlawed in the State. Even our closest allies from the Empire are not allowed to bring slaves in the State, as slaves are prohibited goods here.
Unlike savage societies like Republic and Federation we don't tell the Imperials what they do inside our territory, and we follow their rules on their territory. And we demand they follow our rules in our territory.
One of these rules is very simple: NO SLAVES.
It is a pity minmatars have troubles reading these two words.
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Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2014.12.01 19:57:47 -
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How can you become a slave to the God, if you are afraid even of becoming a slave to a Man?
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Liam Antolliere
University of Caille Gallente Federation
223
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Posted - 2014.12.01 20:14:26 -
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Diana Kim wrote:About lies and ridiculing.
Mademoiselle Kim,
I believe what is being referenced here is the State's alliance with the Empire, not a direct collaboration or institution of slavery. Rather, that because the State and many State-aligned capsuleers fight in defense of (or on behalf of) the Empire, then their actions enable and empower the slavery practices of the Empire to continue.
In other words, because the Minmatar have to fight against State forces in Empire space, the State is assisting the practice of slavery in continuing within the Empire. It is not so much a lie as a guilty by association proclamation.
Diana Kim wrote:Unlike savage societies like Republic and Federation we don't tell the Imperials what they do inside our territory, and we follow their rules on their territory. And we demand they follow our rules in our territory.
Forgive me if I misunderstand, but I believe you mean to say that you do not tell the Imperials what they do inside their territory, correct?
"Let it never be said that I have not been true to myself and, in so doing, true to those around me."
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Siddhar Gangari
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
4
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Posted - 2014.12.01 20:20:50 -
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YA HYA CHOUHADA USHRA'KHAN! |
Marus Sulla
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
20
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Posted - 2014.12.01 20:33:23 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Marus Sulla wrote: The status quo are all those who have a vested interest in allowing the institution of slavery to continue which has had such a devastating effect on our people. This obviously includes the Amarrian machinery of state but also includes those among our own people who collaborate, the Caldari State Corporations who now do likewise, Pirate capsuleers that disrupt our operations, individuals such as [REDACTED] targeted specifically and any who turn a blind eye.
It is our task therefore to clearly identify them to our people as such and again depending on the existing conditions and our ability to effect a cure. Execution, as earlier stated is not the only way of making any category of enemy ineffective: we can variously expose them as liars, hypocrites and collaborators or make them subjects of ridicule.
About lies and ridiculing. I have come here to ridicule at a liar, who was claiming that State was collaborating with slavery. This is one of the stupidiest lies ever. Slavery is outlawed in the State. Even our closest allies from the Empire are not allowed to bring slaves in the State, as slaves are prohibited goods here. Unlike savage societies like Republic and Federation we don't tell the Imperials what they do inside our territory, and we follow their rules on their territory. And we demand they follow our rules in our territory. One of these rules is very simple: NO SLAVES. It is a pity minmatars have troubles reading these two words.
Status Quo. Collaborate.
Withdraw from your alliance with the Amarr.
MM Recruitment is open.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=386561
http://masuataa.org/
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Tyrel Toov
Eplison Enterprises
114
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Posted - 2014.12.01 20:36:52 -
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Luna Hanaya wrote:How can you become a slave to the God, if you are afraid even of becoming a slave to a Man? We don't care to be slaves to their God, fear has nothing to do with it. We just want them to go away and leave our people be.
I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
4267
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Posted - 2014.12.01 21:51:08 -
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Marus Sulla wrote:Status Quo. Collaborate.
Withdraw from your alliance with the Amarr.
Status Quo. Collaborate.
Withdraw from your alliance with the Gallente.
That's Right! The State allied with the Empire not because we wanted to be drawn into this mess - by habit we're isolationists, happy to leave you alone if you leave us alone. We allied with the Empire because the Republic allied with the Federation. Isolated, we could be overrun by your joint fleets. Combined with the Golden Fleet, we have safety and security.
I'm sure you understand our desire to be free from our previous overlords, able to live our lives according to our own traditions?
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Marus Sulla
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
22
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Posted - 2014.12.01 21:54:10 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Marus Sulla wrote:Status Quo. Collaborate.
Withdraw from your alliance with the Amarr. Status Quo. Collaborate. Withdraw from your alliance with the Gallente.
Diana I give you the perfect example.
When the Matari rose up the Gallente reached out a helping hand. What did you do ?
History will judge us all. Don't be on the wrong side.
Marus
MM Recruitment is open.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=386561
http://masuataa.org/
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Eran Mintor
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
707
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Posted - 2014.12.01 22:26:23 -
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Quote:individuals such as [REDACTED] targeted specifically
Well that's no fun.
-Eran |
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
4267
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Posted - 2014.12.01 22:38:39 -
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Marus Sulla wrote: Diana I give you the perfect example.
When the Matari rose up the Gallente reached out a helping hand. What did you do ?
History will judge us all. Don't be on the wrong side.
Marus
When the Caldari rose up nobody reached out a helping hand. We did for you what you did for us.
Then you declared war on US. And now you've blamed US for it.
History is certainly going to judge you.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Marus Sulla
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
23
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Posted - 2014.12.01 22:44:06 -
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AD 22355 First contact between the Amarr and the Minmatar. Amarr immediately raid the Minmatar nation for slaves, an activity they will continue for 125 years
We may have been preoccupied.
MM Recruitment is open.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=386561
http://masuataa.org/
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
4267
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Posted - 2014.12.01 22:47:07 -
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Marus Sulla wrote:AD 22355 First contact between the Amarr and the Minmatar. Amarr immediately raid the Minmatar nation for slaves, an activity they will continue for 125 years
We may have been preoccupied.
I'm not even sure we had Space Flight at the time!
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Deitra Vess
Scope Works The Blacklist.
98
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Posted - 2014.12.01 22:48:51 -
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This is great! I look forward to the next installment!
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Marus Sulla
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
23
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Posted - 2014.12.01 22:52:30 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Marus Sulla wrote:AD 22355 First contact between the Amarr and the Minmatar. Amarr immediately raid the Minmatar nation for slaves, an activity they will continue for 125 years
We may have been preoccupied. I'm not even sure we had Space Flight at the time!
Our autocannons are short but our memories long !
MM Recruitment is open.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=386561
http://masuataa.org/
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Shae Mataar
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2014.12.01 22:52:47 -
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Tyrel Toov wrote:Luna Hanaya wrote:How can you become a slave to the God, if you are afraid even of becoming a slave to a Man? We don't care to be slaves to their God, fear has nothing to do with it. We just want them to go away and leave our people be.
the practice of slavery exists for political, not ideological, reasons.
you can bet that as soon as the political burden on the holders gets too great, then the word of god will get interpreted in a whole new light.
i bring that which you fear the most
freedom
no matter what the price
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Marus Sulla
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
23
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Posted - 2014.12.01 23:00:35 -
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Shae Mataar wrote:Tyrel Toov wrote:Luna Hanaya wrote:How can you become a slave to the God, if you are afraid even of becoming a slave to a Man? We don't care to be slaves to their God, fear has nothing to do with it. We just want them to go away and leave our people be. the practice of slavery exists for political, not ideological, reasons. you can bet that as soon as the political burden on the holders gets too great, then the word of god will get interpreted in a whole new light.
The practice of slavery exists as a religious imperative.
One does not exist without the other.
Their religion tells them it is right and slavery supports their social institutions.
We may be slaves physically but the Amarr are slaves intellectually and more importantly to them spiritually.
MM Recruitment is open.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=386561
http://masuataa.org/
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1483
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Posted - 2014.12.02 00:56:51 -
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Liam Antolliere wrote:Diana Kim wrote:About lies and ridiculing. Mademoiselle Kim, I believe what is being referenced here is the State's alliance with the Empire, not a direct collaboration or institution of slavery. Rather, that because the State and many State-aligned capsuleers fight in defense of (or on behalf of) the Empire, then their actions enable and empower the slavery practices of the Empire to continue. In other words, because the Minmatar have to fight against State forces in Empire space, the State is assisting the practice of slavery in continuing within the Empire. It is not so much a lie as a guilty by association proclamation. I think I have stated it rather clearly. Whatever they do in their territory is their business, not ours. Just as what we do in our territory is our business. We simply can't be guilty at anything we don't do. Let me explain it in easy terms.
Let us imagine that hosts in house A put their cups with handles to the left, and hosts in house B put their cups with handles to the right, and that house A and B are in conflict, because house A tells B cups must be turned their handles to the left, and B tells A that their cups must be turned to the right.
We (Caldari) are living in the house C and our cups are turned with their handles to the viewer (because it is way more efficient to grab them faster that way), and we decide to make alliance with house A, because we like, which flowers they are growing, and we don't care about damn cups at all.
AND YOU WANT TO CLAIM THAT WE ARE GUILTY IN TURNING OUR CUPS WITH HANDLES TO LEFT BY ASSOCIATION?!! Our DAMN CUPS are turned towards YOU, not to LEFT or RIGHT, we DON'T FREAKING CARE HOW YOU TURN YOUR DAMN CUPS. We turn them how WE WANT them to be turned. And it's not YOUR FREAKING BUSINESS how cups are turned in OUR or AMARR cupboards, if they are DAMN NOT YOUR HOUSES.
Got it now, gallentean?!
Liam Antolliere wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Unlike savage societies like Republic and Federation we don't tell the Imperials what they do inside our territory, and we follow their rules on their territory. And we demand they follow our rules in our territory. Forgive me if I misunderstand, but I believe you mean to say that you do not tell the Imperials what they do inside their territory, correct? Correct. I am sorry, I did a mistake. Of course in their territory. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1483
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Posted - 2014.12.02 01:03:08 -
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Marus Sulla wrote: Status Quo. Collaborate.
Withdraw from your alliance with the Amarr.
You have no power to tell us what to do and whom to make alliance with. We have choosen as the ally the most trustworthy, loyal and honorable Empire. We honor our allies, and will die for their citizens as we would die for ours. If the alliance would be broken, it will be broken NOT by us.
Considering your request: DENIED. |
Tyrel Toov
Eplison Enterprises
116
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Posted - 2014.12.02 01:06:44 -
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but what about the cups with no handles? HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT WITH NO HANDLE!?!
I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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Tyrel Toov
Eplison Enterprises
116
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Posted - 2014.12.02 01:21:35 -
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Also, as per the breaking and reforging of alliances, I see no way in which that will end well. The Caldari will not suffer being in an alliance with the Gallente on behalf of the Minmatar (nor should they in my opnion). The Minmatar would be unwise to break ties with the Gallente to facilitate that alliance, and any shift in the current power balance would likely entail a war that would burn half the cluster out of existance. So, how about this instead: a cease fire between the Caldari and the Minmatar. We don't engage in your war, you stay out of ours. That is about the fairest deal that might be within the relm of reason.... even if it is a long shot.
I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
4269
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Posted - 2014.12.02 03:08:04 -
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Actually, what we really need to do is focus less on the Minmatar and Caldari - who are both intrinsically isolationist peoples - and focus on the two expansionist halves of this equation. If you can get the Amarrians to make assurances that satisfy the Minmatar and get the Gallente to make assurances that will satisfy the Caldari, the Caldari and Minmatar halves of these alliances would wither away quite naturally.
The Caldari and Gallente part of this has actually had great progress made on it, of late. With the staged return of Home to Caldari control, and the security of the Luminaire system under Gallente control, tensions are starting to ebb.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Tyrel Toov
Eplison Enterprises
116
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Posted - 2014.12.02 03:49:53 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Actually, what we really need to do is focus less on the Minmatar and Caldari - who are both intrinsically isolationist peoples - and focus on the two expansionist halves of this equation. If you can get the Amarrians to make assurances that satisfy the Minmatar and get the Gallente to make assurances that will satisfy the Caldari, the Caldari and Minmatar halves of these alliances would wither away quite naturally.
The Caldari and Gallente part of this has actually had great progress made on it, of late. With the staged return of Home to Caldari control, and the security of the Luminaire system under Gallente control, tensions are starting to ebb. I would like to agree with this, but I feel it's going to be a bit too much to ask for the Amarr to make the assurances needed to satisfy. You get to deal with humans and the most liberal/ideological ADHD empire in the cluster. We got stuck in a quagmire of a religious crusade with the Amarr. Have you ever tried to call a God to the deplomacy table? The jerk can't even be troubled to respond, that ass seems to think he's above us....
I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
898
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Posted - 2014.12.02 04:00:29 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Actually, what we really need to do is focus less on the Minmatar and Caldari - who are both intrinsically isolationist peoples - and focus on the two expansionist halves of this equation. If you can get the Amarrians to make assurances that satisfy the Minmatar and get the Gallente to make assurances that will satisfy the Caldari, the Caldari and Minmatar halves of these alliances would wither away quite naturally.
The expansionist halves in this war are the Minmatar and Caldari, Pieter. Your nations broke the treaties that had been in effect since the founding of CONCORD. It is the Minmatar and the Caldari who should be making assurances to the Amarr and Gallente. Your "isolationist" nations are the unreliable ones in this conflict, since both of you have proven how little your word is worth.
Amarr made many concessions to the Republic. We recognized them as a sovereign power, we ended military expansionism, we even released and delivered millions of slaves to them. His Holiness Heideran VII, may he rest in peace, was recognized by the international community as a leader in the pursuit of interstellar peace.
It is not us that broke our commitments to peace. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
4269
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Posted - 2014.12.02 04:54:11 -
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I've heard this theory of yours before, Samira, and I maintain that anyone surprised that we'd take a crack at getting Home back is a moron. Certainly the Gallente Federation must have known that we would. What surprised them wasn't that we would, it was that we could.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Tyrel Toov
Eplison Enterprises
116
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Posted - 2014.12.02 04:58:26 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Actually, what we really need to do is focus less on the Minmatar and Caldari - who are both intrinsically isolationist peoples - and focus on the two expansionist halves of this equation. If you can get the Amarrians to make assurances that satisfy the Minmatar and get the Gallente to make assurances that will satisfy the Caldari, the Caldari and Minmatar halves of these alliances would wither away quite naturally. The expansionist halves in this war are the Minmatar and Caldari, Pieter. Your nations broke the treaties that had been in effect since the founding of CONCORD. It is the Minmatar and the Caldari who should be making assurances to the Amarr and Gallente. Your "isolationist" nations are the unreliable ones in this conflict, since both of you have proven how little your word is worth. Amarr made many concessions to the Republic. We recognized them as a sovereign power, we ended military expansionism, we even released and delivered millions of slaves to them. His Holiness Heideran VII, may he rest in peace, was recognized by the international community as a leader in the pursuit of interstellar peace. It is not us that broke our commitments to peace. The concessions that were made were pitiful. Millions freed and returned? What about the other Billions you enslaved or killed in your conquest of our people? The countless generations of our people who never got to experance their true heritige and culture? Where's the reperations for them, for the slaves still in holding? You really think you can buy off the ire of a nation by giving back a mere fraction of what you stole from it to begin with? What a foolish idea.
I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
898
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Posted - 2014.12.02 05:38:35 -
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Well those concessions were agreed to by the Republic, when your leaders signed the treaties 130 years ago. It was agreed, by both nations, that we would end our state of war, the Empire would recognize the Republic's sovereignty (conceding a significant portion of our territory in the process), and that we would no longer engage in slavery outside of our borders. In return, the Republic, your leaders, promised to drop your claim on the remaining minmatar in the Empire and to respect our own sovereignty and our right to manage our own internal affairs. This was agreed, it was signed, and we shook hands. And after that, we traded, we allowed corporations to set up stations in each other's space, we worked together to combat pirates and terrorists like Nation, illegal slavers, Tetrimon cultists, and the Defiants and Bloody Hands.
Then Shakor came into power and ruined everything we had built.
Is it foolish to expect that people uphold the contracts that they agreed to? I guess so. I guess it was foolish to actually believe that there was any lasting integrity in the Minmatar.
The Empire isn't the "status quo" claimed in the original post. No, we're the "enemy through your own fault", because you had real peace and decided to throw it away.
And Pieter, "they should have seen it coming" doesn't rationalize breaking one's word. |
Tyrel Toov
Eplison Enterprises
116
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Posted - 2014.12.02 06:16:30 -
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If I recall, you have another document you hold in even higher regard then our treaty that says we are to be "reclaimed". How long will it be untill you deside to honor that? Whatever treaty we sign with you, as long as you maintain slavery as part of your religion, we can't trust you to honor it forever. Why shouldn't we strike at every available opportunity? Should we just sit back and wait untill your church desides it's time to carry out Gods will again?
I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
4269
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Posted - 2014.12.02 06:29:28 -
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We've had that conversation as well, Samira. I agree we broke our word, but I don't question the necessity of doing so when the chance presented itself.
Honour? Our ancestors would turn their backs on us if we traded Home for such a nebulous thing. I'd sell my honour in a heartbeat if it meant food for a child, freedom for a prisoner or life for a kirjuun. Perhaps you have to rise up on a hard world to get that. The Matari understand that.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
898
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Posted - 2014.12.02 06:43:52 -
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Tyrel Toov wrote:If I recall, you have another document you hold in even higher regard then our treaty that says we are to be "reclaimed". How long will it be untill you deside to honor that? Whatever treaty we sign with you, as long as you maintain slavery as part of your religion, we can't trust you to honor it forever. Why shouldn't we strike at every available opportunity? Should we just sit back and wait untill your church desides it's time to carry out Gods will again?
We were honoring it. We are carrying out God's will. We never stopped.
There are more weapons in God's arsenal than lasers. You can Reclaim by Word and Example just as much as you can Reclaim by Sword.
There is no one in this universe that you can trust more to honor agreements. Deception is the greatest sin. When Amarr gives its word, we keep it. To do less is to disgrace ourselves before God. |
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