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Niskin
League of the Lost
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:00:23 -
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It's worse when you are solo, the aggroing of drones that is. When new waves spawn it can happen and once the rats get your drone on their target list it stays there. You can pull in the drone and as soon as you let it back out it's immediately targeted by the same rats again. That's been my experience in a Dominix after the changes and it's why I stopped missioning in that hull.
Some people seem to have found ways to prevent the initial aggro which manages most of the problem. The MJD solution sounds interesting, might have to try that sometime since I still have that Domi laying around.
Remember kiddies: the best ship in Eve is Friendship.
-MooMooDachshundCow
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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
353
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:06:42 -
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Shelle Kasings wrote:Flamers and 'go back to wow' replies are not desired here.
Exploration is a waste. I explored for three weeks in lowsec and found nothing but data sites with 3m max in them.
You're doing it wrong. Or you're the unluckiest player alive. |
Kestrix
Industrial Renaissance MinTek Conglomerate
148
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:12:09 -
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I use drones with my Rattlesnake to do level 4 missions and find them very effective. I use a target painter to get aggro then let my drones out to play. Occasionally the NPC's will target one of my drones but I have not lost one in a very long time, just return the targeted drone and re-launch.
If you are in a Domi I found that remote repping my sentry drones meant that I didn't really need to activate my tank just let your sentrys get aggro and rep the one that cops all the aggro, if you can't keep up with the DPS scoop up the drone and re-deploy, the NPC's will target another sentry and away we go again. |
Nicolai Serkanner
Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective
226
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:16:41 -
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Shelle Kasings wrote:Flamers and 'go back to wow' replies are not desired here.
I'm not a new player to this game. I had a 20m sp char a while back and I was in BoB. I left a few years ago and now I'm back. I trained up drones for 2 months and now I realize the drone aggro mechanic makes drone missioning l4s no fun at all.
I've read many threads about this, and I understand how sentries work, and about recalling drones, and watching red-to-yellow etc.
My main issue is that it isn't worth spending time docking, refitting, and constantly shuttling drones to do level 4 missions.
It's ironic, really, because back when I played, everybody started Caldari Achura because it had a SP advantage. Then CCP supposedly leveled the playing field. But the drone aggro unleveled it again. Missiles/torps are king again. Just switch ammo types while fighting. I guess I should have trained caldari in the first place, yes?
I wish CCP would let people reroll their skills in the first 3 months - I am so annoyed because I just don't have the time for these 3 hour missions and I don't have the time to log in to a corp every day and go on 4 hour ops.
Mining is boring, PVP requires ISK, flipping in Jita is boring and pointless, and exploration is a waste. I explored for three weeks in lowsec and found nothing but data sites with 3m max in them.
Unless somebody has any better ideas, I've concluded that this game isn't fun to play anymore.
With an attitude like yours the only conclusion is that you indeed wasted your time.
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Saji'us
Debauchery Inc.
16
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:47:56 -
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Agondray wrote:it took me almost 3 years to solo a lvl 4
oh... oh dear god.
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Paranoid Loyd
2827
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:48:56 -
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Saji'us wrote:Agondray wrote:it took me almost 3 years to solo a lvl 4 oh... oh dear god.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
18145
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Posted - 2014.12.02 21:02:11 -
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Wait..
Didn't the drone agro changes happen a while ago?
*checks date of post*
Op spent the last couple of months training for drones...
Op just now realizes.. that.. rats.. aggro.. drones...
Do.. I even really need to say anything? I mean.. I want to.. but OP asks that I not say anything about returning to another game which he/she may like better.. but.. op makes a good argument.. for a button in the esc menu.. that allows them to do just that..
Im very conflicted at the moment.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Leoric Firesword
Dark Fusion Industries Limitless Redux
95
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Posted - 2014.12.02 21:03:24 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Leoric Firesword wrote:Shelle Kasings wrote:Flamers and 'go back to wow' replies are not desired here.
I'm not a new player to this game. I had a 20m sp char a while back and I was in BoB. I left a few years ago and now I'm back. I trained up drones for 2 months and now I realize the drone aggro mechanic makes drone missioning l4s no fun at all.
I've read many threads about this, and I understand how sentries work, and about recalling drones, and watching red-to-yellow etc.
My main issue is that it isn't worth spending time docking, refitting, and constantly shuttling drones to do level 4 missions.
I don't know how you're running missions, but you're doing it wrong. I run in an Armageddon and have no issues with having to shuffle drones in L4 missions. Most crap dies before it ever gets into range. With a portrait like that, you should have had a name like "The Inquisitor" or something. BTW how do you shuffle drones when apparently you can't see anything? :-P
shuffling isn't hard, it's juggling that's a pain |
Leoric Firesword
Dark Fusion Industries Limitless Redux
95
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Posted - 2014.12.02 21:07:12 -
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Shelle Kasings wrote: I explored for three weeks in lowsec and found nothing but data sites with 3m max in them.
If you mean you're just going after data/relic sites, then find a less traveled section of lowsec. If you're also doing combat sites, the RNG must hate you almost as much as it used to hate me (went 6 months only seeing 2 faction commanders and 0 drops doing ~15 sites a night) |
Serene Repose
1687
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Posted - 2014.12.02 22:52:44 -
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Ya ya. Anybody drone heavy had to have a twinge of no-risk here guilt. Making them expendable like ammo, instead of invulnerable like an immortal mini-space fleet adds work to what was normally a set them on aggro, go make a sandwich game. I still use them. I had to rethink how I used them. But, hey. If you're Caldari with a missile boat using drones and hitting from 100k away, what else are you going to do while you mission, read the forum?
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
304
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Posted - 2014.12.03 01:43:23 -
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Shelle Kasings wrote:Flamers and 'go back to wow' replies are not desired here.
I wish CCP would let people reroll their skills in the first 3 months - I am so annoyed because I just don't have the time for these 3 hour missions and I don't have the time to log in to a corp every day and go on 4 hour ops.
I've concluded that this game isn't fun to play anymore. Go back to WOW...
Unless you think what? CCP should change everything so you're not bored... (Yes, that was a flame)... |
Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
423
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Posted - 2014.12.03 09:05:15 -
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Go back to WoW you ******* pile of ****** ******* !!!!
(I hope that wasn't too strident)
Oh, and. HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!
Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2807
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Posted - 2014.12.03 10:06:54 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The Rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
8. Use of profanity is prohibited.
The use of profanity is prohibited on the EVE Online forums. This includes the partial masking of letters using numbers or alternate symbols, and any attempts at bypassing the profanity filter.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Nishachara
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
9
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Posted - 2014.12.03 11:36:57 -
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You dont even have to train up to rattlesnake or ishtar.... just Gila... and you will be fine. You have two drones and each has 500% more dps and more tank and thats it. Take down the frigs and faster cruisers in missions first, they can hurt drones, battleships or even battlecruisers can't track them properly. All in all drone agroo from rats in missions is fine, i see no problem there, i've lived in wh for years and had no problem with sleeper drone agro, which happens by orders of magnitude more often on site, and i lost about 2 or 3 t2 hh's a week. For sentries its even easier coz they have more tank.
Also exploration is fine, maybe your luck isn't and that can be rectified with persistance. Get an astero and fly from one end of the cluster to the other through low sec...take a few days for it, and do all the data and relic sites you come by... its fun, you'll earn some isk..hey you'll have an adventure and it will be great and fun...
Edit: if after all that it still isnt fun, just contract your stuff you are not having fun with to me and ill recomend you some other game in return ^^ |
Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms. Don't Tell Me The Odds
6103
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Posted - 2014.12.03 11:41:40 -
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Shelle Kasings wrote:*Snip* Please refrain from posting Troll bait. ISD Ezwal.
I'm not a new player to this game. I had a 20m sp char a while back and I was in BoB. I left a few years ago and now I'm back. I trained up drones for 2 months and now I realize the drone aggro mechanic makes drone missioning l4s no fun at all.
I've read many threads about this, and I understand how sentries work, and about recalling drones, and watching red-to-yellow etc.
My main issue is that it isn't worth spending time docking, refitting, and constantly shuttling drones to do level 4 missions.
It's ironic, really, because back when I played, everybody started Caldari Achura because it had a SP advantage. Then CCP supposedly leveled the playing field. But the drone aggro unleveled it again. Missiles/torps are king again. Just switch ammo types while fighting. I guess I should have trained caldari in the first place, yes?
I wish CCP would let people reroll their skills in the first 3 months - I am so annoyed because I just don't have the time for these 3 hour missions and I don't have the time to log in to a corp every day and go on 4 hour ops.
Mining is boring, PVP requires ISK, flipping in Jita is boring and pointless, and exploration is a waste. I explored for three weeks in lowsec and found nothing but data sites with 3m max in them.
Unless somebody has any better ideas, I've concluded that this game isn't fun to play anymore.
And EVE's built-in filter against the weak strikes again.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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