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Viscount Hood
British Space Corporation E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.09.06 14:05:00 -
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I would say to the OP that if your loosing Ravens on lvl 4 then take a defensive attitude to your missions, regardless of your skills or modules fitted. - Stay aligned to something away from the npc's at full speed, so you can warp at a moments notice. - Use a damage control. These are very useful if you experience severe damage or lag and you get into structure. It will give you a few more seconds. - use 2 warp core stabilisers even if it means reducing your tanking abilities. - if your shield tank goes and you start going into armour. Warp out.
Defensive setup i've used in the past when isk is short.
hi 4 x siege launchers 2 x cruise launchers 1 x heavy nos 1 x tractor/medium nos
med 1 x XL shield booster 1 x shield boost amp 4 x shield hardners
lo 1 x damage control 2 x WCS 2 x PDS
As always replace modules with best named/tech II as you can afford it.
To anyone else: I've tried fitting Large shield boosters (tech II) with amp but I just run out of shield eventually, long before i run out cap, meaning i fit a XL shield booster. Is the answer Gisti type?
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Philip Sterling
GALAXIAN Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.09.06 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
You need to move to a active boosting tank to solo WC. I'd guess a gist booster would be needed as on the 2nd lvl there are 4 1.2m npc who do some real nice dps. If you do use one however, WC is VERY easy...
The other downside of passive tank is your ROF and damage is very low due to lack of BCU... and means you won't go though missions that fast. My current cruise ROF is 6.74s, not sure what yours would be but I'd guess 8-9secs which would probably struggle to break the tank of the last npc on vengeance.
I haven't had any trouble breaking tanks, but i will sometimes drop one of the shield power relays for a bcu2 to make the easier to tank missions go a bit faster. I don't know what the rof actually is, because i haven't run any missions in about 4-5 monthes, but i've got cruise missile spec 4, rapid launch 5, and caldari bs 4, so it's probably just a hair over 8 seconds maybe. i don't like using faction mods, either, just not worth it. better to just decline the 1 in 50 missions you can't do solo.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.09.06 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: THX 1138
Originally by: tiller My current cruise ROF is 6.74s
Awesomeness! Damn I want to know the value of your pod
You can get Torp ROF to around 8 seconds without implants, so I don't see how getting alittle under 7sec ROF on cruise missiles could be all that hard.
Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath |
THX 1138
Minmatar ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.06 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: THX 1138
Originally by: tiller My current cruise ROF is 6.74s
Awesomeness! Damn I want to know the value of your pod
You can get Torp ROF to around 8 seconds without implants, so I don't see how getting alittle under 7sec ROF on cruise missiles could be all that hard.
It's a very good ROF for cruises - certainly the best I've ever heard of. As tiller said above, he's got maxed missile skills and 3% ROF implant... so I guess that's how it's done. -*-*-*-*-
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THX 1138
Minmatar ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.06 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Viscount Hood To anyone else: I've tried fitting Large shield boosters (tech II) with amp but I just run out of shield eventually, long before i run out cap, meaning i fit a XL shield booster. Is the answer Gisti type?
The Gist X-Type XL with a SBA is fantastic, but you're looking at an investment of 1.2b ISK, that's 12 Ravens. Is it worth it? The B-Type is about 500mil (last time I checked) so more worthwhile. Honestly, with average skills and a full Gist shield tank there's going to be nothing you can't do in level 4's solo... as long as you have the damage output to boot.
Just make sure you stay in 0.5+ and don't join any dodgy gangs though. -*-*-*-*-
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Blue Rider
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.09.06 15:41:00 -
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If somehow the other posts have not answered your question, convo me in-game. I don't know what setup he uses but I have a buddy who solo's lvl 4's in his raven on a laptop that get's like 10 FPS. NO JOKE.
This means he has to use some sixth sense to know when his tank is going out and when it is time to leave.
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agent apple
Syndicate Of Shadows
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Posted - 2006.09.06 16:16:00 -
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Skills are not as relevant as the missions your actually running. You see guristas missions are a doddle and can be done with one hand wedged in a packet of hobnobs and the other clasped around a nice cup of char whilst using ones nose to occasionally activate the booster.
However there is life beyond caldari space and some missions are simply not possible in a t2 raven alone (you can use a cap injector to work round this but to prevent warping out youll need a hauler on tow for 800 reloads so thats not solo)
Oh and cruise fanbois know nothing, javelin torps are THE weapon of choice, especially since the missions got a lot of the chaff removed and replaced by bc and the bs count went up.
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tiller
Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.06 16:40:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 06/09/2006 16:42:08
Originally by: agent apple Skills are not as relevant as the missions your actually running. You see guristas missions are a doddle and can be done with one hand wedged in a packet of hobnobs and the other clasped around a nice cup of char whilst using ones nose to occasionally activate the booster.
However there is life beyond caldari space and some missions are simply not possible in a t2 raven alone (you can use a cap injector to work round this but to prevent warping out youll need a hauler on tow for 800 reloads so thats not solo)
Oh and cruise fanbois know nothing, javelin torps are THE weapon of choice, especially since the missions got a lot of the chaff removed and replaced by bc and the bs count went up.
I was thinking of trying them... is it worth the hassle ?, would have to give up a low slot for a cpu mod. :(
I'm doubting thats javs are that much faster for completing missions... I have maxed cruise skills and they hit really good. Maybe a test is in order for conclusive proof once and for all.
edit: just to add, how do you move between gates in lvls with javs, do you have to switch to t1 ammo for that ?
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Dixon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.06 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 06/09/2006 16:42:08
Originally by: agent apple Skills are not as relevant as the missions your actually running. You see guristas missions are a doddle and can be done with one hand wedged in a packet of hobnobs and the other clasped around a nice cup of char whilst using ones nose to occasionally activate the booster.
However there is life beyond caldari space and some missions are simply not possible in a t2 raven alone (you can use a cap injector to work round this but to prevent warping out youll need a hauler on tow for 800 reloads so thats not solo)
Oh and cruise fanbois know nothing, javelin torps are THE weapon of choice, especially since the missions got a lot of the chaff removed and replaced by bc and the bs count went up.
I was thinking of trying them... is it worth the hassle ?, would have to give up a low slot for a cpu mod. :(
I'm doubting thats javs are that much faster for completing missions... I have maxed cruise skills and they hit really good. Maybe a test is in order for conclusive proof once and for all.
edit: just to add, how do you move between gates in lvls with javs, do you have to switch to t1 ammo for that ?
While I can't say I have much experience with cruise missiles I can assure you that Javelin torps are worth the training (given that they don't get nerfed soon). A javelin torp is basically a cruise missile with torp damage and a velocity penalty so you will be pounding through missions with ease.
The cpu mod can be avoided with some faction equipment but you will need to unload the torps to travel between gates, but that's not really a problem. So yeah, javelin torps are t3h pwN! - - - - - - I have no strong feelings one way or the other... |
000Hunter000
Gallente Dummy Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.06 17:19:00 -
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Blah! who uses BS for L4's anyways, just get a commandship :D
ok ok but now seriously, i know that me raven and T2 cruises could prolly do the missions a lot faster but i just enjoy doing them in me NH more. Banner will be updated shortly |
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Weix
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Posted - 2006.09.06 19:08:00 -
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Raven pilots need skills????
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Alexander Knott
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Posted - 2006.09.06 20:05:00 -
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Throw on a target painter and you really don't even need Javelins. Javelins speed up kills on cruisers, but on painted battlecruisers regular torps hit for maybe a couple percent less than full damage. Honestly, with Drone Interfacing 4, my drones are often done with all the frigates and chewing away at the cruisers before I get everything else killed, so having to fire an extra salvo or two of normal torps during a mission really doesn't bother me.
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tiller
Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.06 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Weix Raven pilots need skills????
ahahahahaahahhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Funny guy, but believe it or not a raven can be flown bad like any other ship. I've spent 1.5 years solid skilling just to fly one perfectly.... go figure.
A few questions for you...
why not post with your main what do you fly why post in this thread
Sounds like your upset you cant fly one tbh lol lol lol lol lol
...sometimes I wonder about some of the *&^&%$^% that play eve.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.09.06 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Maxdamage
Hello all, I was wondering if someone could let me know of all the skills they have, (RAVEN SPECIFIC) and at what lvl the skills are at that can do lvl 4's missions without much worry. I've been playing eve for quite sometime now and still cannot do lvl'4 very well, I have most of the missle and sheild skill trained but I would like to know what to focus on because I have lost 3 Raven's over 3 months now and it is getting annoying. Also, whomever answers, please let me know your setup and what skill you have to use them the best. I apprciate you time on this and am sure it will benifit other Raven pilots out there as well.
Thanks much
MAx
Do you have a Gisti Type B?
Thats the difference between possible and easy.
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Icesail
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Posted - 2006.09.06 21:40:00 -
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Here is the skill tree I give our new players that want to fly Ravens:
Skills to Fly a Raven - number in () is the recommended for Solo, the other is the minimun to be effective.
Drones: Combat drone operation - 3 (5) Scout Drone - 3 (5) Drone - 5 Drone interface - 3 (4) Gallant Drone Spec - (3)
Electronics: Electrinics - 4 (5) Long Range Targeting - 3 (4) Targeting - 4 Signature analysis - 3 (4) Target Painting - 1
Engineering: Energy grid upgrades - 3 Energy transfer - 3 Energy Management - 3 (5) Energy Systems Operation - 4 Engineering - 4 (5) Shield Compensation - 3 (4) Shield management - 3 (4) Shield Operation - 4 Shield upgrades - 3 Tactical Shield Manipulation - 4
Gunnary: Weapon Upgrades - 4 (5) Adv Weapons Upgrades - (3) Small Laser - (3) Medium Laser - (3) Small Hybrid - (3) Medium Hybrid - (3)
Mechanic: Hull Upgrades - 1 Mechanic - 3 (5) Repair systems - 1
Missiles: Cruise Missiles - 3 (5) Cruise Spec - (3) Guided Missile Precision - 3 (4) Heavy Missiles - 3 (4) Missile Bombardment - 3 (4) Missile Launcher - 5 Missile Projection - 3 (4) Rapid Launch - 3 (5) Rockets - 3 Standard Missiles- 3 Target navigation - 3 (4) Torpedos - 3 Warhead Upgrades - 3 (4)
Navigation: Accleration Control - 3 Afterburners - 3 Evasive maneuvering - 3 Fuel Conservation - 3 Navigation - 3 (4) Warp Drive Ops - 2
Science: Science - 4 Cybernetics - 3
Social: Social - 3 Conenctions - 3
Learning: All basic learning skills to 5 (except charisma to 3) Memory/Intel/perc and will adv skills to 4
Hope it helps.
Icesail -My mining setup is a Raven with Siege Missiles-
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.06 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
I was thinking of trying them... is it worth the hassle ?, would have to give up a low slot for a cpu mod. :(
I'm doubting thats javs are that much faster for completing missions... I have maxed cruise skills and they hit really good. Maybe a test is in order for conclusive proof once and for all.
edit: just to add, how do you move between gates in lvls with javs, do you have to switch to t1 ammo for that ?
editedit: I can run angel extra in under 40mins with t1 cruise.
Javs ARE that good. They are MUCH better than any cruise against the higher end Battleships that tank a lot, and there is nothing like one-volleying all the cruiser stuff (with TPs). You will need a -3% missile launcher CPU need implant most likely, but with that I can fit:
6 SiegeII, 1 Hvy nos, 1 corpum med nos 1 Gist B XL Booster, 2 DG Invul Fields, 1 specific hardener, 2 PWNAGE painters 1 IFFA, 1 RCU, 2 Domi BCUs, 1 T2 BCU
Can replace the T2 BCU and RCU with two PDUs if more tank is needed (never is though), or can replace the RCU with a PDU and the Heavy nos with another medium one if you don't like fitting mods. But I like this one best. --------- ZOMG my sig was concordokkened! Link removed due to bad language on remote site. -wystler
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agent apple
Syndicate Of Shadows
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Posted - 2006.09.06 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Alexander Knott Throw on a target painter and you really don't even need Javelins.
:( Target painter 10s cycle time. Siege II 8s cycle time. That means you spend a fith of your time waiting for the painter to be finished not to mention losing a mid and when it comes to certain level 4's tank > gank even more so on a normal raven.
Originally by: tiller I was thinking of trying them... is it worth the hassle ?, would have to give up a low slot for a cpu mod. :(
At uber whorage level you need a cpu for what your flying and fitting anyhoo. If your not a dumbass and mindfull of your surroundings what you earn will pay for a pimp ship which will mean faster running and more time for pvp.
Originally by: tiller I'm doubting thats javs are that much faster for completing missions... I have maxed cruise skills and they hit really good. Maybe a test is in order for conclusive proof once and for all.
Javelin one volley bc, full damage bs, and eat cruisers fast aswell. Sansha vegance in 10m :D If your a competent pirate being a competent mission runner is great. You can ***** a lot of isk in a week and still spend most of your time pvping. The only problem is theyre so good you keep getting tempted to kill people with them and that can be a problem for your isk whoring, ship delivering alt :(
Caldari mission running slaves, great for ebil minnie piewats
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.09.07 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: agent apple Oh and cruise fanbois know nothing, javelin torps are THE weapon of choice, especially since the missions got a lot of the chaff removed and replaced by bc and the bs count went up.
You're calling them clueless, while saying to use Javelin torps?
It takes me 8-10 torps MAX to kill any BC npc in any level 4 mission. It takes me 4-5 torps to kill an NPC destroyer at most.
Why the hell would you waste time fitting T2 ammo? The time you spend swapping ammo will delay you more than using T1 ammo.
Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath |
agent apple
Syndicate Of Shadows
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Posted - 2006.09.07 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia The time you spend swapping ammo will delay you more than using T1 ammo.
You swap ammo?
It called collect the cans in a neat pile then ab to the next gate.
In fact most missions youll be webbed anyway and launching drones will cause further mobs to aggro so speed is irrelevant while your killing stuff especially for a raven.
Anyhoo this is way off the op's topic, and 8-10>6 has some wierd logic to it ill never understand, ill go take comfort in my equally noobish sized wallet
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Hamatitio
Caldari Fate. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.07 04:22:00 -
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Originally by: Dixon
Originally by: Ms rose
Originally by: Dixon
Originally by: Hamatitio The skill description was not written to correspond to ingame functionality of the skill.
Tactical Shield Manipulation works more like this*... 25% Base. 23.75% lvl 1 22.5% lvl 2 21.25% lvl 3 20% lvl 4 18.75% lvl 5.
It is the most worthless skill in the game. I would rather trian biology to 5 than tact shield 5.
*this is how it worked last time I checked, dont know if they have changed it in the last 2 months, but its still worthless!
Skill at preventing damage from penetrating the shield, including the use of shield hardeners and other advanced shield modules. Reduces the chance of damage penetrating the shield when it falls below 25% by 5% per skill level, with 0% chance at level 5.
While TSM isn't the most important shield tanking skill (although you'll need it for capitals) it is nice not to take any armor damage when your shields are low. And while that doesn't happen often it still does when you use torps, as you'll need to bring fewer cap charges and on some missions things get tight.
You do realise its broken right?
No, I did not know that. When did that happen?
IIRC Tripoli rewrote the skill descriptions of around 100 skills. I believe this was one of them, and the devs just did a quick copy and paste, without realizing that this is not how the skill actually works.
The skills functionality is described in my original post, not int he skill description.
They need to have the skill do something entirely different, as damage leaking is never a bad thing (less damage to shields \o/.)
I want -CPU on shield hardeners --- I'm going through sigs fast these days. |
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Weix
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Posted - 2006.09.07 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Weix Raven pilots need skills????
ahahahahaahahhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Funny guy, but believe it or not a raven can be flown bad like any other ship. I've spent 1.5 years solid skilling just to fly one perfectly.... go figure.
A few questions for you...
why not post with your main what do you fly why post in this thread
Sounds like your upset you cant fly one tbh lol lol lol lol lol
...sometimes I wonder about some of the *&^&%$^% that play eve.
LOL, everybody knows its not the pilot but the ship that makes the Raven uber, sry m8. Try doing lvl4 missions in a Typhoon, now that DOES take skill. Maby you should give it a try instead of choosing the easy path. Thank God not everyone flies a Raven and spends 1.5 years training just to gatecamp indies in Amamake...Cheers!
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tiller
Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.07 21:00:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 07/09/2006 21:04:23 Edited by: tiller on 07/09/2006 21:03:36
Originally by: Weix
Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Weix Raven pilots need skills????
ahahahahaahahhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Funny guy, but believe it or not a raven can be flown bad like any other ship. I've spent 1.5 years solid skilling just to fly one perfectly.... go figure.
A few questions for you...
why not post with your main what do you fly why post in this thread
Sounds like your upset you cant fly one tbh lol lol lol lol lol
...sometimes I wonder about some of the *&^&%$^% that play eve.
LOL, everybody knows its not the pilot but the ship that makes the Raven uber, sry m8. Try doing lvl4 missions in a Typhoon, now that DOES take skill. Maby you should give it a try instead of choosing the easy path. Thank God not everyone flies a Raven and spends 1.5 years training just to gatecamp indies in Amamake...Cheers!
Smacktalking on a forum is a sad way to make up for your short comings in game
You can say yes, raven is a easy ship to fly for a beginner, but to master it is another story. Your comparison with a phoon, well whats the point in that... it's a tier 1 ship with a dodgy split weapon system... there is no comparison. If you do indeed OMGOMGIISSOUBERIFLYAPHOON for lvl4s, then it's really a stupid choice on your part... no need getting bitter at everyone else.
Maybe I popped your hauler once and you still not got over it ?
edit: why as a 'non raven' pilot are you posting in a raven thread ?
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Huldradans
White Wolves Defence league E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.09.07 22:38:00 -
[53]
Thanks for the info.. I'm looking into investing in a Raven for lvl4's when I can do them :)
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Elrich Zann
Minmatar Hidden Agenda
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Posted - 2006.09.07 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar
Javs ARE that good. They are MUCH better than any cruise against the higher end Battleships that tank a lot, and there is nothing like one-volleying all the cruiser stuff (with TPs). You will need a -3% missile launcher CPU need implant most likely, but with that I can fit:
6 SiegeII, 1 Hvy nos, 1 corpum med nos 1 Gist B XL Booster, 2 DG Invul Fields, 1 specific hardener, 2 PWNAGE painters 1 IFFA, 1 RCU, 2 Domi BCUs, 1 T2 BCU
Can replace the T2 BCU and RCU with two PDUs if more tank is needed (never is though), or can replace the RCU with a PDU and the Heavy nos with another medium one if you don't like fitting mods. But I like this one best.[/quote
That's one expensive setup (add in the implant and wow!). Personally I hate fitting mods on Battleships and prefer a better tank. But that is a very good raven setup, thanks
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Celestiana
Gallente VeloxMortis
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Posted - 2006.09.08 00:01:00 -
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I've been doing ok with my setup, although the hardest mission I've had thus far was Gurista Extravaganza and I cruised through it.
Any suggestions?
Currently, I'm running: HI: 6x Arby Cruise 2x 250MM Proto Gauss
MED: 1x XL Booster II 1x Shield Boost Amp 1x Rat Specific Named Shield Amp 2x Rat Specific Dread Gurista Hardener 1x Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster
LOW: 3x BCU II 2x PDU II ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you lend someone 10 million isk and never hear from them again, it was probably worth it. |
Saktas
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Posted - 2006.09.08 10:41:00 -
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Hi there, well alot of peeps have said in the post that javlin torps and Gisti shield boosts are needed..thats really not true..yes they are very nice but mission running is about isk..I have not lost a raven on a L4 mission, close sometimes lol..but never lost one..T2 cruise launcher..T1 ammo..its cheap and you dont do 40m/s..T2 modules best named pdu's..all for well under 200 mill..and i use t1 drones cos they cheap..my skills and setup are posted earlier in this thread..as mrron..this is my khanid char lol
its all about isk and if things do go wrong i dont want to cry in my beer about me 1.5 billion faction fitted raven that got scrammed lol..
oh yeh.also i dont bother with angel extrava..yes iv done it but i decline that one and knock out 5 or 6 l3 missions while the agent is all upset with me..infact i think it prolly makes more isk doing l3's lol
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.08 11:18:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Saktas Hi there, well alot of peeps have said in the post that javlin torps and Gisti shield boosts are needed..thats really not true..yes they are very nice but mission running is about isk..I have not lost a raven on a L4 mission, close sometimes lol..but never lost one..T2 cruise launcher..T1 ammo..its cheap and you dont do 40m/s..T2 modules best named pdu's..all for well under 200 mill..and i use t1 drones cos they cheap..my skills and setup are posted earlier in this thread..as mrron..this is my khanid char lol
its all about isk and if things do go wrong i dont want to cry in my beer about me 1.5 billion faction fitted raven that got scrammed lol..
oh yeh.also i dont bother with angel extrava..yes iv done it but i decline that one and knock out 5 or 6 l3 missions while the agent is all upset with me..infact i think it prolly makes more isk doing l3's lol
It is not all just about the ISK, it is about the ISK/time. Sure you can run L4s in a T1 cruise raven, but you take significantly longer than in a Gist Javelin Raven. I don't want to post my usual ISK/minute ratio because the jealous PvPers will cry a river again, but it is definitely MUCH higher now than it was back when I didn't use Javs and gist stuff.
Of course it will take ages to make back the investment, but hell half the fun for me is actually buying and fitting the fancy equipment :) And one-volleying everything smaller than a Battleship is a very satisfying experience for me too. --------- ZOMG my sig was concordokkened! Link removed due to bad language on remote site. -wystler
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agent apple
Syndicate Of Shadows
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Posted - 2006.09.08 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Saktas Hi there, well alot of peeps have said in the post that javlin torps and Gisti shield boosts are needed..thats really not true
Yes and No, For some missions a gist booster as mentioned above some is the difference between possible and not
Javelin arent needed they allow you to do missions quicker. Heres an exmaple (figures are illustrative):
angels extrav takes 1hr to do with standard torps and nets me 70m in bounties, reward and converted LP. Doing the same mission with javelins lets me do it in 45m say and still nets 70m.
Ive spent say 5m on t2 torps so compared to normal my profit is down 5m but ive saved 15m. 15m = 1/4 of previous time and a 1/4 of previous profit is 17.5m so.... im 12.5m up :D
Run missions for 3hrs a day (nothing drastic many have 8hr average daily playtime so thats still 5hrs for player pew pew) your up 50m a day, thats 350m a week and 1.4b a month
See where this is going
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tiller
Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.08 12:06:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 08/09/2006 12:11:37
Originally by: agent apple
Originally by: Saktas Hi there, well alot of peeps have said in the post that javlin torps and Gisti shield boosts are needed..thats really not true
Yes and No, For some missions a gist booster as mentioned above some is the difference between possible and not
Javelin arent needed they allow you to do missions quicker. Heres an exmaple (figures are illustrative):
angels extrav takes 1hr to do with standard torps and nets me 70m in bounties, reward and converted LP. Doing the same mission with javelins lets me do it in 45m say and still nets 70m.
Ive spent say 5m on t2 torps so compared to normal my profit is down 5m but ive saved 15m. 15m = 1/4 of previous time and a 1/4 of previous profit is 17.5m so.... im 12.5m up :D
Run missions for 3hrs a day (nothing drastic many have 8hr average daily playtime so thats still 5hrs for player pew pew) your up 50m a day, thats 350m a week and 1.4b a month
See where this is going
I'd like to know how long that mission is with javs, because it takes roughly 45min with t1 cruise and maxed skills.
If they do turn out to be similar it's not worth switching because of ammo costs and gimping my tank slightly (at least on current snake setup)
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Waagaa Ktlehr
Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.08 12:17:00 -
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Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 08/09/2006 12:19:39 Level 5: Energy Management Energy Systems Operation Advanced Weapon Upgrades Electronics Engineering Scout Drone Operation
Level 4: Tactical Shield Manipulation Cruise Missiles
Level 3: All missile support skills Shield Compensation
Level 2: All race's Drone Specialization
My setup:
Hi 6x Arbalest Cruise Missile Launcher 1x Heavy Diminishing NOS 1x Tractor Beam
Med 1x Gist X-Type XLarge Shieldbooster (Did them with a B-Type for ages, which is a lot cheaper) 1x Thon's Shield Booster Amplifier (Used a stock T1 non-named for ages with the B-Type) 2x Invulnerability Field II (I switch in DG Invuls for really hard missions) 1x Photon Scattering Field II (I switch in an X-Type for really hard missions) 1x Thermal Hardener II (I switch in an X-Type for really hard missions)
Low 4x DG BCS (Used 4x BCS II) 1x Internal Forcefield (Named DCU)
Drones: 5x Medium and 5x Small T2 rat-specific drones
I switch hardeners around a bit for some missions, but I do most with this rig.
So as you can see, if you get a decent deadspace XL Booster, you'll be fine, even with ****ty skills like me :) ------------------------------------------
BURN in the Righteous Fire of Amarrian Lasers! (Or you can just die when I toss a 1400mm shell at you..) |
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