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Azda Ja
Green Skull LLC
1310
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Posted - 2014.12.11 16:07:36 -
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Morrigan Nighe wrote:I would love to see more cybernetics for the head region. Like datajacks, or small pieces of cyberware that stick out from under the skin, kind of like the caldari face tattoos. And don't make every piece of cyberware so shiny. A worn used look might have its appeal too. Think cyberpunk stuff. Why can't I use several scars at once. For instance if I want a blind eye, I can't add other scars to it.
This.
http://community.eveonline.com/bitmaps/img/weekly/CRC_potw.jpg
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121002235926/tankgirl/images/0/0a/Hewl-Tanky.jpg
I'd love to be able to pull off both of these looks. I'll live without it, but it would still be cool.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
7316
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Posted - 2014.12.11 16:15:06 -
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More than imposing new clothing options or new options for character creator, first I would like CCP devs to say something informative about the clothing team, unreleased clothes amount and who worked on character creator (also what former character creator team is doing now), can they come back for these options, and most importantly, who would decide about it and why would they decide so.
Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
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Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
14635
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Posted - 2014.12.11 16:17:21 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:I might sound like a huge nerd now, but overly sexy clothes for capsuleers don't make much sense lore-wise in my opinion. So our capsuleers have become so accustomed to being connected to huge killing machines, they have developed a god-complex, complete lack of empathy and don't even feel like they belong to the human species anymore. Such people would be embarrassed about the imperfection and frailty of their biological bodies and would chose clothes (like Amarrian robes) to hide them, instead of drawing even more attention to them.
Ssshhh Zimmeh! I needs moar schmexxy clothes
Bacon makes us stronger
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Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
14635
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Posted - 2014.12.11 16:26:01 -
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SIbs, thanks so much for putting that together! I had a ton of fun filling out that survey
Bacon makes us stronger
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
7318
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Posted - 2014.12.11 16:27:42 -
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Quote:Such people would be embarrassed about the imperfection and frailty of their biological bodies and would chose clothes (like Amarrian robes) to hide them, instead of drawing even more attention to them.
Imperfections? Some capsuleers use them to distinguish their bodies from the crowd. Frailty of the capsuleer body? We always can get new one.
Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
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Cosmic Girl96
Red Swords
7
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Posted - 2014.12.11 17:50:45 -
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Carmen Electra wrote:Zimmy Zeta wrote:I might sound like a huge nerd now, but overly sexy clothes for capsuleers don't make much sense lore-wise in my opinion. So our capsuleers have become so accustomed to being connected to huge killing machines, they have developed a god-complex, complete lack of empathy and don't even feel like they belong to the human species anymore. Such people would be embarrassed about the imperfection and frailty of their biological bodies and would chose clothes (like Amarrian robes) to hide them, instead of drawing even more attention to them.
Ssshhh Zimmeh! I needs moar schmexxy clothes
I agree with Carmen. Give us girls who want to dress like a stripper the ability to do so |
Jon Dekker
Dekker Corporation
15
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Posted - 2014.12.11 17:54:39 -
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I didn't see in the idea doc options for button-down suits or tuxedos. Perhaps a more modern twist on futuristic black-tie wear. |
Jon Dekker
Dekker Corporation
16
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Posted - 2014.12.11 18:00:30 -
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[EXPANDED PHOTOS] This is a larger improvement so I made a new post for it, allowing the usual character "head portrait" with additional photos that would be displayed when someone clicks on your info. It would be great to assign a hotkey to "take photo" at any time, like if you're in the captain's quarters, or out flying. It would screengrab without any UI, which you could then crop and make public to your character's info.
At the very least it would be great to get a bit more options when taking character portraits, allowing us to be in specific environments or have our favorite ship in the background. The current backgrounds are way too abstract. |
Dersen Lowery
Drinking in Station
1340
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Posted - 2014.12.11 18:28:22 -
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+1 to more formal wear. Also, +1 to more clothing that looks like it came from wildly different, far-flung worlds. Don't be shy! Maybe iridescence would be a fun variable to play with.
And I want to second the person who said that the NeX store preview should allow us to preview multiple things at once. Having to buy one piece to see how it might look with another piece is incredibly annoying. Also, we should be able to access the clothes we normally have access to in addition to the stuff in the store.
Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.
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Alizabeth Vea
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
588
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Posted - 2014.12.11 19:23:06 -
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Dersen Lowery wrote:+1 to more formal wear. Also, +1 to more clothing that looks like it came from wildly different, far-flung worlds. Don't be shy! Maybe iridescence would be a fun variable to play with.
And I want to second the person who said that the NeX store preview should allow us to preview multiple things at once. Having to buy one piece to see how it might look with another piece is incredibly annoying. Also, we should be able to access the clothes we normally have access to in addition to the stuff in the store. I almost always look at how the clothing fits in SISI before I buy it on TQ, whether with AUR or ISK.
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corbexx
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
1065
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Posted - 2014.12.11 19:34:34 -
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All the suggestions are really great, but ideally could use more people who can turn up to the meet up with the devs.
Corbexx for CSM X - Wormholes still deserve better
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Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
144
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Posted - 2014.12.11 19:42:33 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Sol Project wrote: Call me a Debby Downer if you want to, but I don't see the point of this, unless you advertise big and gather a few thousand votes. :/
I think it always helps to have a structured discussion, so knowing what's been suggested in the past will help you and others attending to prioritize what to talk about with the CCP devs. The poll could be a long term sounding board for the playerbase to express to CCP (and their player representatives) what they are interested in for portraits and avatar customization. Edit: I am working on visual metrics for the results.. Do you have any suggestions on how it could be better advertised? I know you're pretty good at this sort of thing.. Edit: Tweeted. Please retweet. I had a longer thought about this.
I probably could and I have something in mind, but I don't think it's actually a good idea and thus I have to decline.
First, there more ideas and variations of ideas out there than people and people will eventually start to want their idea in it too.
The amount of data, in the long run, is unmanageable.
Second, I consider it a waste of precious time with the devs and my followup post will underline why I believe this to be the case.
Anyhow, regarding the first point I have to say that it keeps customisation in infancy. What I did ... what you do now ... basically represents the infancy of character customisation.
(Offtopic: I swear, I will take this new notebook and rip out the ******* touchpad with my bare hands ....)
We're like kids wanting our parents to give us stuff, but we're hundreds of thousands of kids and eventually the whole idea of making whatever someone comes up with leads to chaos.
Democrazy doesn't work. It's crap. Inefficient.
It is unproductive and inefficient at what it's about: Making CCP money. Yes. I have no illusions about this. The great part about seeing it this way is that, the more money CCP makes, the more it means that people get what they want, maybe even in ways they did not even know they want.
Calling it "clothing workshop" and then telling them "what we want" which is only a selected few anyway is ... a waste of precious devtime!
What I did made no freaking sense. Of course it worked, but in the end it's a bullshit way for a company to have players list random stuff they want or have one person notoriously try to shove it down their throat. *cough*
It's inefficient and not really up to the potential. That's why I call it infancy. So we need to grow out of it.
Right now people want random stuff, there's no smooth connection with release cycles, there's no structure behind it.
It's a freaking mess.
In the long run, we're not helping CCP making money efficiently.
CCP has shown that they understand the importance of customisation, (to make money, which is good) so I would rather want to *step up the game*.
Hey, I by no means oppose *any* efforts ... I am the last person to stop anyone from pushing, but to speak in a symbolic way: There's no chance in hell I will ever resurrect this seriously horrible angle Solecist was.
I'm just telling it as I see it and envision progress! You do know though that I am a huge jerk, I definitely do tell people what I think instead of sugar coating them and telling them that whatever they do is great blablabla.
The yellow thread gathered LOOOOTS of views and posts. Perfectly executed, including the perfect protagonist (you) and timing.
The thread in "My EVE" gathered a huge amount of views in a seriously short amount of time.
They both showed potential, but don't make proper freaking use of it.
TL;DR:
Even if thousands of people cast votes, add a gazillion ideas about what they want and CCP simply works through the list from top to bottom ...
... in the end it's not a good way of helping CCP making money ... ... and it's pretty much a huge waste of devtime anyway.
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Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
14805
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Posted - 2014.12.11 19:46:07 -
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corbexx wrote:All the suggestions are really great, but ideally could use more people who can turn up to the meet up with the devs. I will be there for sure
Bacon makes us stronger
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Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
144
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Posted - 2014.12.11 19:49:20 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:More than imposing new clothing options or new options for character creator, first I would like CCP devs to say something informative about the clothing team, unreleased clothes amount and who worked on character creator (also what former character creator team is doing now), can they come back for these options, and most importantly, who would decide about it and why would they decide so. Why would you want to talk about the past, when we can talk about the future?
I understand that you are interested in things, but what does this help moving forward? What do we really learn from this that improves the game and our experience?
I am not opposing this completely, but I strongly believe that we should use the time for something productive. Something that creates and supports progress and helps us build a better connection with the developers.
Something that allows us AND them to take the opportunity to march forward into a future where customisation is not only a small side-part of the game, but allows people to actually be someone and express it in a way that was not only not possible before, but also on a level unseen in any of the lesser wannabe MMOs out there.
I must have had a stroke or something for being actually willing to do voicechat ... |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
17739
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Posted - 2014.12.11 19:53:13 -
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Sol Project wrote:TL;DR:
Even if thousands of people cast votes, add a gazillion ideas about what they want and CCP simply works through the list from top to bottom ...
... in the end it's not a good way of helping CCP making money ... ... and it's pretty much a huge waste of devtime anyway.
If you look at the results with 40+ respondents you already see some patterns emerging.
I believe the list does the opposite of what you are saying. It bounds the conversation to a limited requested list, and since I've limited respondents to only choose 3 options in any category it also focuses their feedback to items that are most important to them.
I think it's better than trying to generate talking points out of thin air..
Friendship is the best ship.
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
17739
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Posted - 2014.12.11 19:57:20 -
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And no one is saying the TS needs to include anything from the poll. The people dialing in can choose to talk about whatever they want.
I'm just providing data.
Friendship is the best ship.
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Wendrika Hydreiga
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
144
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Posted - 2014.12.11 20:08:15 -
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Well, one thing I'm going to ask the Devs is what we can and can't expect during the next volley of 6 releases and how can we work around of what we want most and when we want it.
Sure some of us have the Walk In Stations thing stuck on the back of our minds, but I'd prefer having some neat clothes on the NES than demanding an overhaul of the Incarna stuff. Maybe we can nudge them to create better facial expressions six months from now!
One thing I'd surely love to have is gloves. Fingerless gloves! Yes! |
Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
144
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Posted - 2014.12.11 20:37:56 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Sol Project wrote:TL;DR:
Even if thousands of people cast votes, add a gazillion ideas about what they want and CCP simply works through the list from top to bottom ...
... in the end it's not a good way of helping CCP making money ... ... and it's pretty much a huge waste of devtime anyway.
If you look at the results with 40+ respondents you already see some patterns emerging. I believe the list does the opposite of what you are saying. It bounds the conversation to a limited requested list, and since I've limited respondents to only choose 3 options in any category it also focuses their feedback to items that are most important to them. I think it's better than trying to generate talking points out of thin air.. Keep going, it's all fine. I can't really not help if you need a hand anyway, if you needed one, that is. |
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
494
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Posted - 2014.12.11 20:53:36 -
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My wish list would be:
1. BEARDS. Proper ones. Big gnarly biker beards. Viking beards. etc. 2. Monochromatic tattoos more of the biker/metalhead persuasion. Think Francis from L4D. Skulls, goats, pentagrams, Baphomet, chaos star... do the Amarr have a religious symbol that I can invert and tattoo on me? 3. Make up a bunch of totally brutal Minmatar metal bands and give me a jacket with all their patches on it. patchy jacket 4. Almost forgot, proper long hair for dudes.
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Kel Kun
The Body Of Christ
5
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Posted - 2014.12.11 20:55:21 -
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Hi, thank you for giving us the opporunity to express ourselves on this topic.
What I would like to have as clothing in EvE is some boots and shoes for women [b]without[/b] high heel. Like flat sole. I am very upset that we don't have that option.
Some other thing I would also enjoy as accesories, wings in the back. |
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
7320
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Posted - 2014.12.11 22:01:34 -
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Sol Project wrote:The amount of data, in the long run, is unmanageable. These are only ideas for clothing and character creator, posted by players, CCP wil not make everything and expecting from them to do that would be stupid. They have their own minds to decide.
Sol Project wrote:Second, I consider it a waste of precious time with the devs Taking information just from the dev's isn't a waste of precious time, more time would be wasted if someone would bother thinking why they don't make clothing or character creator updates or WiS just now.
Sol Project wrote:It is unproductive and inefficient at what it's about: Making CCP money. If you are talking about clothing and microtransactions in general than Aurum is bought for money, the microtransactions are business and it should make money, but how much? Can be enough to support steady stream of clothes? Do they have finance plans for microtransactions that they have to accomplish? Do they have their own plans?
Sol Project wrote:Calling it "clothing workshop" and then telling them "what we want" which is only a selected few anyway is ... a waste of precious devtime! Maybe its just what we want and its for making their plan easier to fulfill? Players can act as devs advisors sometimes, especially on a topic like that, with devs that may work on clothing.
Sol Project wrote:Bullshit way for a company to have players list random stuff they want or have one person notoriously try to shove it down their throat. *cough* Again, these are only propositions. Actual discussion can take the clothing options as for their themes, like hats or beards, what are technical limitations etc..
Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
7320
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Posted - 2014.12.11 22:01:45 -
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Sol Project wrote:there's no smooth connection with release cycles, there's no structure behind it. Maybe devs would provide information about their plans, maybe they have something for us already?
Sol Project wrote:It's a freaking mess. There is mess here, but in actual discussion with devs, the pople should stick to the discussion plan with certain topics about certain clothing or character creation options.
Sol Project wrote:In the long run, we're not helping CCP making money efficiently. By discussing ideas we can help devs understand player needs. You may be wrong or right, but for now only devs know how often their work is monetized in NeX store and if they have some more options for us in the future.
Sol Project wrote:CCP has shown that they understand the importance of customisation, (to make money, which is good) so I would rather want to *step up the game*. You are not talking about something like WiS, do you? Stepping a game to the point when our legs are visible, and we can show ourselves to everyone in full, in a place where everyone will see us?
Sol Project wrote:TL;DR:
Even if thousands of people cast votes, add a gazillion ideas about what they want and CCP simply works through the list from top to bottom ...
... in the end it's not a good way of helping CCP making money ... ... and it's pretty much a huge waste of devtime anyway. Even if players are inclined to spent money in NeX store for clothes? What is the hard data?
Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
6946
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Posted - 2014.12.11 22:51:02 -
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For some reason the title of this thread looked to me like, 'Clothing Worship'.
After reading a few pages, I think it was just my psychic abilities manifesting themselves since that's exactly what a lot of it is.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Wendrika Hydreiga
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
144
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Posted - 2014.12.11 22:55:05 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:For some reason the title of this thread looked to me like, 'Clothing Worship'. After reading a few pages, I think it was just my psychic abilities manifesting themselves since that's exactly what a lot of it is. Mr Epeen
For a person without a shirt you have a good grasp on Clothing in general! You are reading us all like a book!
More Clothes for the Fashion Gods! More Fashion for the Cool Throne! |
Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
145
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Posted - 2014.12.11 22:59:26 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:Reponse Thank you for your response. I have read through it, but I have a really hard time figuring out a proper response to it ... so I won't.
You totally have points there, but I feel like you are missing quite a lot. Which isn't your fault at all. I feel more like we're talking about different things. Kind of. Not sure how to explain it. Like ... I have no idea how to explain it to you.
Either way, I feel like my posts were a waste of time, as what matters is talking to the relevant people anyway.
For real progress.
Again: Thank you for your response. |
Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
145
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Posted - 2014.12.11 23:00:27 -
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Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:For some reason the title of this thread looked to me like, 'Clothing Worship'. After reading a few pages, I think it was just my psychic abilities manifesting themselves since that's exactly what a lot of it is. Mr Epeen For a person without a shirt you have a good grasp on Clothing in general! You are reading us all like a book! More Clothes for the Clothes God! More Fashion for the Fashion Throne! Wendrika 1 : Mr. Epeen 0
Wow, Mr. E, she owned you bigtime. ^_^ |
Arllette
Clarity Incorporated Anoikis Ronin
416
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Posted - 2014.12.11 23:15:44 -
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I can totally envision Mr Epeen with a bowler hat, strategically tilted to one side to compliment that smirk.
Mizhir > "The forums are the EVE endgame after all."
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Dan Seavey Allier
Seavy Acquisitions
13
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Posted - 2014.12.12 01:48:24 -
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Destructible Clothing.
Destructible Clothing.
Destructible Clothing.
Destructible Clothing.
Destructible Clothing.
Bunny ears, top hats, garter belts, corn-cob pipes......whatever yer heart desires......Just make it blow up with your active clone when you get podded.
( Yes I know you are in a tub of goo, but you disrobed before you stepped into it, no? )
This would seriously add another consumable commodity to the market, and a damn interesting one at that.
Besides: who wouldn't want to own a BPO for thigh high hooker boots? Or a Veldspar cod-piece?
I'll be unavailable on the 15th, but if someone could please bring up the suggestion of Destructible Clothing, I wear I'll do three random acts of kindness in their name to help fill their karma bank.
Dan
Honey Never Sleeps.
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
17775
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Posted - 2014.12.12 02:17:17 -
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Made updates to the the poll (if you haven't voted, go vote now!).
Also, 60 respondents! Not too shabby for a few hours. We still have a couple days yet. Beards really, really, really seem to have pulled forward, considered they were a late entry.
Azda: I think your Tank Girl suggestions falls under military outfits. I already have the classic EVE looks covered in the options.
Bagrat and Kel Kun: I think everything you've mentioned is present.
John Dekker: added button-down suits or tuxedos. I think the "picture book" idea is probably better off in an F&I thread of its own. What do you think?
Dersen Lowery: Added NES store preview enhancement as a request
Wedrika: Fingerless gloves already on list, thanks!
Unezka: Added tattoos idea to list. I think medals/patches as accessories covers the patchy jacket. Beards and long hair for men already on list.
Dan: Destructible clothing already on list. Go vote for it!
Friendship is the best ship.
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Badel Jramodarr
New Eden Miners Millitia
1
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Posted - 2014.12.12 02:35:46 -
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A few ideas:
- Necklaces - Dogtags specifically (considering they are already a part of the game it seems a shame not to have a visual representation.) You, of course, could expand the idea to eve religious symbols, faction specific, etc
- Earrings - a little more variety
- Rings - Sure, they'd only be seen in the full view but still...
...which brings me to the one thing I'm most interested in - Full View backgrounds and lighting.
Since we can influence every other aspect of how other's see our character, it would be appreciated if we could in the full view too. I appreciated the fact you have improved the zoom/move functionality of this window (just so you know, I have noticed ) but when it comes to character viewing it still needs work. Eg: Pet peeve - the lighting presumes I have no hair and lights my face accordingly, so my face is lit up under my hair. To top it off, that is some garish lighting! Are we in a line-up? If so, I'm innocent. I didn't steal your Leopard... You have the wrong Brutor!!
...uhhh, what was I saying? Oh yeah -
Ideas on how to improve it:
- Make it possible to move & change the light source, tint, intensity, etc
- Make it possible to change the background
- Come to think of it, at minimal, similar functionality as the avatar snapshot creation
As far as clothes are concerned, I would be interested to see the ability to change colours & symbols of specific parts of clothing instead of colour & symbols being locked to one particular piece of clothing. eg: boot & boot strap colours; t-shirt colours, symbols & edging colours; belt colours & belt buckle designs; etc.
Thank you for your consideration o7 |
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