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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9099
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Posted - 2014.12.11 14:20:52 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Another "agenda point" of yours.
Where did I make any assertions on the status of the players? First some presumption of NRDS, not the "hurf blurf you should not play alone" track.
Your opinions do not have to be your religion. Did you know that? Or did those military dentists work you over again?
No, I'm just trying to figure out why you think the ability to bubble = death on contact for any and everyone who wants to go in there. Because it really doesn't.
It does....but only for bad people who have difficulty with a video game
Thera is prime emergent gameplay territory, the players will decide what it is and isn't. This is why these 'thempark' types will hate it and vilify it as 'wahhhh it's a pvp place' (you know, like the rest of EVE lol). Me, i just set my clone there lol.
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
5475
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Posted - 2014.12.11 14:25:15 -
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Here comes the tinfoil:
Goons diss Thera to get everybody out so they can have it for themselves.
EXPOSED !
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
135
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Posted - 2014.12.11 14:26:20 -
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Rain6637 wrote:the rookie ships from Pend in Thera need to come equipped with civilian probe launchers and probes that are capable of finding highsec exits. Astrometrics I is one of the skills you start EVE with.
If there wasn't a 1 year timer on remote med clones, that would be another way to avoid Thera being a clone trap. This is a really smart idea! If you ... as it's yours ... make a thread in F&I, I will happily support it. |
Square PI
Hedion University Amarr Empire
17
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Posted - 2014.12.11 14:37:51 -
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It would be enough when there are NPC sold civ. probe Launcher on the stations. |
Jean Luc Lemmont
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
409
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Posted - 2014.12.11 14:40:00 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:I Love Boobies wrote:In other news... fedos escaped from their holding cells in Jita and are now running rampant throughout the 4-4 station, eating anything and everything, but mostly favoring Tritanium. This will make tritanium prices skyrocket, so according to Jim E. Jones, now is the time to sell your stockpiles before the fedos can devour them.
Now to Dee Dee Packalotte for the weather... I've got a bottle of whiskey and a new mission. Off to Jita with me for the sweet sweet fedo lovins. I will save the tritanium with the badtouches!
I am so disturbed by this I don't even know where to begin.
I'm going to go take a shower in acid.
Will I get banned for boxing!?!?!
This thread has degenerated to the point it's become like two bald men fighting over a comb. -- Doc Fury
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RomeStar
dskjdahsk
545
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Posted - 2014.12.11 15:07:13 -
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Confirmed clone set in thera. As for the trolls on this post it doesn't get any better than this. OP Best troll of 2014 IMO.
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Tear Jar
Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch
194
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Posted - 2014.12.11 15:12:52 -
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DaReaper wrote:Rain6637 wrote:Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVE (yes, highsec). Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet. The best way to make a it a mos eisley of eve is to have player security force and make it NRDS. Then you keep it open and can camp the wh's and deal with reds and mess around. But alas, won't happen. And my corp is to small to even try and do that.
There would need to be a strong incentive for a player to do so. Like, if a corp could own the station and profit off the broker fees than they would have a reason to make it a "safe" place to use as a market. |
Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
135
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Posted - 2014.12.11 15:14:53 -
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RomeStar wrote:Confirmed clone set in thera. As for the trolls on this post it doesn't get any better than this. OP Best troll of 2014 IMO. Seriou sly, go read the ArcheAge forums. Posts like these might as well be legitimate. |
Idriane
Chaotic Tranquility Warp to Cyno.
0
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Posted - 2014.12.11 15:15:23 -
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So with the stations being so close can rvb plz move in and do this system up right? |
Senyu Takashi
NGC research and development Imperium of Rising Luna
6
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Posted - 2014.12.11 16:20:02 -
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TL:DR - Dead content where few people will stay for a few weeks before the systems population will go down to the occasional station campers and a sightseeing Rookie Ship. All of this thanks to the idiocy called "non-targeted interdicion" being allowed near stations and gates/wormholes. |
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
400
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Posted - 2014.12.11 16:21:13 -
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What happened? |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1442
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Posted - 2014.12.11 16:21:51 -
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Sol Project wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:this thread therafies me. Thera doctors who can help with that. Can you recomend any therapists?
TunDraGon is recruiting!
"Also, your boobs [:o] " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
"When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Arline Kley
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
457
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Posted - 2014.12.11 16:23:03 -
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I am Therad up of all these Therads.
Blessed are those that carry the Empress' Light; with it they destroy the shadows
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Tear Jar
Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch
194
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Posted - 2014.12.11 16:32:26 -
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baltec1 wrote:Tear Jar wrote:Rain6637 wrote:Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVE (yes, highsec). Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet. It doesn't neccesarily need Concord. A few sentries blowing up dictor bubbles and hostiles at the stations would do a lot to make camping more difficult while still not making it high sec safe. Its not lowsec either. If you want that station camp gone you have to remove it yourself.
The incentives aren't good enough for me to bother removing it myself. I am just going to avoid the system instead.
I was thinking of ways to make the system attractive to players. |
Tear Jar
Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch
194
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Posted - 2014.12.11 16:33:55 -
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Signal11th wrote:Personally I think Thera will be great, it will have 3 main advantages.:
1: Some morons will go there to grief. 2: Some morons will go there because it's new. 3: Hopefully Goons will permacamp it.
Either way that's a lot of morons migrating to one system and out of the general populace.
That won't last long though.
I suspect after this all dies down Thera will be a place for PvPers(interceptors in particular) to base out of for roams into low/null sec. |
Senyu Takashi
NGC research and development Imperium of Rising Luna
6
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Posted - 2014.12.11 16:37:17 -
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Tear Jar wrote:baltec1 wrote:Tear Jar wrote:Rain6637 wrote:Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVE (yes, highsec). Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet. It doesn't neccesarily need Concord. A few sentries blowing up dictor bubbles and hostiles at the stations would do a lot to make camping more difficult while still not making it high sec safe. Its not lowsec either. If you want that station camp gone you have to remove it yourself. The incentives aren't good enough for me to bother removing it myself. I am just going to avoid the system instead. I was thinking of ways to make the system attractive to players.
Exactly. Why should I bother with clearing the station camps? Its a regular WH system with stations and few more statics. Nothing more.
And if I want to participate in a lore somehow, I can do that in a Rookie Ship or in a cov ops+nullified T3. |
Tear Jar
Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch
194
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Posted - 2014.12.11 16:42:32 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote:Tear Jar wrote:Rain6637 wrote:Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVE (yes, highsec). Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet. It doesn't neccesarily need Concord. A few sentries blowing up dictor bubbles and hostiles at the stations would do a lot to make camping more difficult while still not making it high sec safe. Do it yourself. Get friends, clear camps, populate station markets, profit.
I don't think its profitable enough. I mean, why would people go to Thera for their market instead of one of the high sec trade hubs? If they are using wormholes to travel already they can easily find a high sec static and go to one of the existing trade hubs much more safely.
And having players who try to guard the station is more likely to attract pirates than it is to scare them off. If pirates *know* they can go to system X and get fights they are going to constantly go to system X.
The system will be useful as a base for roaming PvP gangs, but it won't be Mos Eisley. Pirates are still better off having their alt shop in Jita for them(which is much closer to Mos Eisley, some protection, but people still get killed in Jita and its full of scammers and pirates). |
Tear Jar
Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch
194
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Posted - 2014.12.11 16:49:27 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Thera (like all of EVE) is 'pve friendly' if YOU put some thought into it. PVE in Thera will consist of organized groups that can both farm AND defend themselves.
Speaking for real PVE jocks in this game (who give no Fs about someone tryin to pvp us), please ignore the whiny "wahhh, people won't let me solo PVE in peace" loners who don't get what game they are playing.
Why would you PvE in Thera over a regular wormhole or a high sec ice belt other than to prove you can? Its clearly worse isk/hr when you factor in all the time and manpower you have to put into fighting off PvPers. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5804
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Posted - 2014.12.11 17:45:48 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Another "agenda point" of yours.
Where did I make any assertions on the status of the players? First some presumption of NRDS, not the "hurf blurf you should not play alone" track.
Your opinions do not have to be your religion. Did you know that? Or did those military dentists work you over again?
No, I'm just trying to figure out why you think the ability to bubble = death on contact for any and everyone who wants to go in there. Because it really doesn't. It does....but only for bad people who have difficulty with a video game Thera is prime emergent gameplay territory, the players will decide what it is and isn't. This is why these 'thempark' types will hate it and vilify it as 'wahhhh it's a pvp place' (you know, like the rest of EVE lol). Me, i just set my clone there lol.
Not so much that. Bombable bubble camps are fun.
It's just that when I see bubbles stacked on bubbles I get the same feeling that I get when I go into a house of a hoarder or someone who has not taken out the trash in two years.
I don't log in to feel that way. Though the thought of bombing them is hard to shake (the ones in game I mean). I giggle like Loreena Bobbit in a sausage factory and I take out my SB.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1665
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Posted - 2014.12.11 17:59:06 -
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Joseph Penton wrote:Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area! "No one said they would have guns!".
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Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
110
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Posted - 2014.12.11 18:31:35 -
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Guize whats pve? And how do i pve???
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Kalishka Ashkulf
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
69
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Posted - 2014.12.11 18:42:18 -
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I still havn't poked my head in Thera. I think I know what I'm doing tonight, shoppiiiing!
Why, thank you, Thing!
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Ione Hunt
Storm Solutions
11
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Posted - 2014.12.11 19:45:18 -
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Welcome to EVE! You aren't safe anywhere
Especially in 0.0, WH and Thera (no security means...NO SECURITY) you have to take risk and can't expect to PVE "safely". Don't like it? Don't go to those places... |
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
420
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Posted - 2014.12.11 20:04:18 -
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It was quite a mayhem in the first day but after that there wasn't happening much, give it few weeks to cool down. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
512
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Posted - 2014.12.11 20:11:12 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Another "agenda point" of yours.
Where did I make any assertions on the status of the players? First some presumption of NRDS, not the "hurf blurf you should not play alone" track.
Your opinions do not have to be your religion. Did you know that? Or did those military dentists work you over again?
No, I'm just trying to figure out why you think the ability to bubble = death on contact for any and everyone who wants to go in there. Because it really doesn't. It does....but only for bad people who have difficulty with a video game Thera is prime emergent gameplay territory, the players will decide what it is and isn't. This is why these 'thempark' types will hate it and vilify it as 'wahhhh it's a pvp place' (you know, like the rest of EVE lol). Me, i just set my clone there lol. Not so much that. Bombable bubble camps are fun. It's just that when I see bubbles stacked on bubbles I get the same feeling that I get when I go into a house of a hoarder or someone who has not taken out the trash in two years. I don't log in to feel that way. Though the thought of bombing them is hard to shake (the ones in game I mean). I giggle like Loreena Bobbit in a sausage factory and I take out my SB.
Herzog, that was quite a fishing trip you have here
I find it amusing that the self-proclaimed hisec PvE queen is telling a person that has been using wormholes to operate in 0.0 for years that he knows nothing about operating in a PvP environment, arrogance and stupidity in one easy post. It set its clone there, big deal, I bet it doesn't kill anything?
Kaarous Aldurald, hmmm, so I looked at the KB of the self-proclaimed HTFU of the Eve forums, I do not see a kill by either him or his alliance in Thera of a HIC outside the station, until he does so he has no right to say that you are fail because you cannot kill one, from where I am sitting neither he or his alliance has done so, so much for his statement about having friends to do it.
Kaarous Aldurald, go on head over there and show us the size of your walnuts...
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9101
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Posted - 2014.12.11 20:15:46 -
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Dracvlad wrote:
Herzog, that was quite a fishing trip you have here
I find it amusing that the self-proclaimed hisec PvE queen is telling a person that has been using wormholes to operate in 0.0 for years that he knows nothing about operating in a PvP environment, arrogance and stupidity in one easy post. It set its clone there, big deal, I bet it doesn't kill anything?
Kaarous Aldurald, hmmm, so I looked at the KB of the self-proclaimed HTFU of the Eve forums, I do not see a kill by either him or his alliance in Thera of a HIC outside the station, until he does so he has no right to say that you are fail because you cannot kill one, from where I am sitting neither he or his alliance has done so, so much for his statement about having friends to do it.
Kaarous Aldurald, go on head over there and show us the size of your wall nuts...
rofl, from the guy who can't organize 5 people long enough to live in easy to live in npc space. Priceless. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
512
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Posted - 2014.12.11 20:20:04 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Dracvlad wrote:
Herzog, that was quite a fishing trip you have here
I find it amusing that the self-proclaimed hisec PvE queen is telling a person that has been using wormholes to operate in 0.0 for years that he knows nothing about operating in a PvP environment, arrogance and stupidity in one easy post. It set its clone there, big deal, I bet it doesn't kill anything?
Kaarous Aldurald, hmmm, so I looked at the KB of the self-proclaimed HTFU of the Eve forums, I do not see a kill by either him or his alliance in Thera of a HIC outside the station, until he does so he has no right to say that you are fail because you cannot kill one, from where I am sitting neither he or his alliance has done so, so much for his statement about having friends to do it.
Kaarous Aldurald, go on head over there and show us the size of your wall nuts...
rofl, from the guy who can't organize 5 people long enough to live in easy to live in npc space. Priceless.
So you think being camped by Burn Eden of NCDOT is easy, again you show your ignorance, keep at it its priceless!
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Bolimbe
Shiga's Playground Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
0
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Posted - 2014.12.11 20:21:07 -
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Joseph Penton wrote:Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area!
Sounds like you don't have much experience outside of high-sec space. Flay an interceptor to mitigate the effectiveness of the bubbles or find a hole and set a safe spot in a location that you can warp in around the bubbles. Maybe fly a cov-ops ship to a location 100Km or 70Km away from the station and scout it before you attempt to dock.
You should probably also get into a null sec or WH corp that trains capsuleers to work in dangerous environments and learn some PvP skills while you are at it.
Maybe you are not made for PvP and should stick to high-sec space and continue your existence as a carebear. I am not a PvP expert by any means but I took the time to think things through. Now I regularly live in low/null or WH space and chill at safe spots with my d-scan up. All it takes is some thought and experience. To learn it you must do it and in the process you will lose some ships but in the end it is worth it.
Even if you don't like PvP you should get out of high sec, you can become an expert at hiding from the big bad gank man while doing missions or exploration. The pay off in ISK may be mitigated by the loss of ships at first but the real reward is the fun and excitement that you receive. The threat of a loss or the rush of a kill can make this game exciting beyond any other game I have played. The only other game that has provided me with an equivalent rush was Doom back in the day. When those demons jumped out I would get a huge adrenalin rush and almost **** myself! |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9101
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Posted - 2014.12.11 20:33:04 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:
rofl, from the guy who can't organize 5 people long enough to live in easy to live in npc space. Priceless.
So you think being camped by Burn Eden of NCDOT is easy, again you show your ignorance, keep at it its priceless!
OMG, ONE CORP out of an alliance with 24 of them camped you and that mad you fail?
Why didn't you say so dude?! That totally justifies your failure to organize some unrealistic utopian space ship game commune that claimed to be all cooperative but that was in reality nothing more than a sad attempt at profiteering and using people for your own gain.
Man, I'm glad you cleared that up, I would have thought you were just a sad narcissist and failure otherwise.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
512
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Posted - 2014.12.11 20:51:15 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:
rofl, from the guy who can't organize 5 people long enough to live in easy to live in npc space. Priceless.
So you think being camped by Burn Eden of NCDOT is easy, again you show your ignorance, keep at it its priceless! OMG, ONE CORP out of an alliance with 24 of them camped you and that mad you fail? Why didn't you say so dude?! That totally justifies your failure to organize some unrealistic utopian space ship game commune that claimed to be all cooperative but that was in reality nothing more than a sad attempt at profiteering and using people for your own gain. Man, I'm glad you cleared that up, I would have thought you were just a sad narcissist and failure otherwise.
Well again your ignorance is splendid to behold, it was while NCDOT as a whole were stationed around Stain. And at least I tried to do something instead of act like you who runs around the forums telling everyone how wonderful you are.
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