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Elistea
BLUE Regiment.
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Posted - 2015.03.15 10:39:53 -
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Sansh Leko wrote:You get hidden room when one of Exterminators explodes.
Rift is close to tractor beam.
No other hidden rooms in Standard.
If you mean hidden containers on the far side of site, those are the ones pulled by tractor beam once you hacked it.
Thnx!
Also is there a way to get explosion triggered once ive alrdy turned off the alarm? |
Sansh Leko
The Scope Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2015.03.15 11:44:35 -
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Yes, I usually leave first remote defence unit hack, one in warp in area at the begining.
Failing on purpose 2 or more times, triggers Exterminators spawn and the clouds.
If you hacked it allready, then failing several times any remaining remote defence, coordinate hacks or attacking structure at the far side of the complex.
EVE Forever
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The Sun's Anvil
Jednota Inc
12
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Posted - 2015.04.11 11:14:51 -
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Unezka Turigahl wrote:Clouds seem to be permanent. Every site that I have found has already had them triggered by someone else who gave up on the site.
Still quite new to these so please forgive if this seems obvious, but if I come across a standard which has been started by someone, and I take the first accel gate, am I in danger of landing in the middle of a triggered cloud (and insta-dying in my frigate)?
I did my first one of these a few days ago and got wasted by the gas. Even though I was slowboating away when it first gets dispersed, I got an insta-kill mail when it "expanded". I just did really have a concept of "where" it was. |
Hess Cable
The Inner Sphere Protectorate
0
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Posted - 2015.05.14 01:01:07 -
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There should be cloaked containers near the Enclave even after activating the tractor beam correct? |
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
255
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Posted - 2015.05.14 05:49:44 -
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Hess Cable wrote:There should be cloaked containers near the Enclave even after activating the tractor beam correct? Nope. If you using tractor beam enclave will be empty. It's just two ways to do it, with tractor beam or by yourself.
"...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..."
The Good, The Bad and The Bantam
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Robur Maximus
The Echelon Phoenix That Escalated Quickly.
11
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Posted - 2015.06.05 18:00:15 -
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I tried to do one in a stratios today...I had to warp out, had already bookmarked inside the site, and the site despawned. Was nothing there when I returned. Just a heads up. |
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
285
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Posted - 2015.06.06 07:17:37 -
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Robur Maximus wrote:I tried to do one in a stratios today...I had to warp out, had already bookmarked inside the site, and the site despawned. Was nothing there when I returned. Just a heads up. Did site was open before? Did you use tractor beam gate or go straight to hidden containers area?
"-What are you doing?"
"-Docking."(...)
-"It's not possible"
-"No, it's necessary."
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Shon Anzomi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2015.06.08 10:13:40 -
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Thanks for the notes on this site. I have found one yesterday and pretty much everything there was screwed by someone already. So I brought my Stratios in, but it wasn't going too well, so I left. Some of the cans were already looted, so I figure the best ones were gone anyway. What was strange - the site did not despawn even after two hours after someone did couple of cans and disturbed all the defences. I thought these were meant to despawn quicker.
I have noticed that these sites are showing up more often after Carnyx update, I found at least one of the limited/standard/superior per day and I am not doing that much explorations these days. So in couple of jumps from my home there is always one of these.
The sigs are also pretty easy to distinguish on the map as well.
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Shon Anzomi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2015.06.08 10:44:26 -
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Sansh Leko wrote:[Astero, limited/standard]
200mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Small Armor Repairer II Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Data Analyzer II Relic Analyzer II Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I Type-E Enduring Cargo Scanner
Sisters Core Probe Launcher Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Small Memetic Algorithm Bank I Small Anti-Explosive Pump I Small Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Cargo:
Sisters Core Scanner Probe x8 Mobile Depot Cap Recharger II Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
Implants:
Poteque Prospector Hacking HC-905 ( slot 9 ) Poteque Prospector Environmental Analysis EY-1005 ( slot 10 )
Why so much focus on virus coherence, when part of the walktrhough is intended failure to hack? ;)
Also what is your probe strength with this fit? I have my scanning skills at IV for strength and accuracy and with small gravity capacitor upgrade it has around 108 which is just enough to scan down the superior site.
Using your setup I came at this which is not cap stable with my skills (3m 19s) but should work hopefully. I don't usually lose hacks, so I am not using any rigs or implants. This is created with o.smium, I am not sure if all stats are correct, but this may run the whole site?
[Astero, limited/standard] Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Small Armor Repairer II 200mm Steel Plates II
Data Analyzer II Relic Analyzer II Type-E Enduring Cargo Scanner 5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I Small Semiconductor Memory Cell I Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I |
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
286
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Posted - 2015.06.08 20:19:11 -
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Shon Anzomi wrote:Using your setup I came at this which is not cap stable with my skills (3m 19s) but should work hopefully. I don't usually lose hacks, so I am not using any rigs or implants. This is created with o.smium, I am not sure if all stats are correct, but this may run the whole site? You are not cap stable? This astero needs running two mods: prop and hacking. Use repairer only when needed. Remember that fast agile tactics works only when you use high warp gate, and to move right after landing, sentries may insta pop. I have very similiar fit but I fit trimark pump instead semi memory cell. Very risky but fun. Especially when sentry hit you and pop all shield with half armor :)
"-What are you doing?"
"-Docking."(...)
-"It's not possible"
-"No, it's necessary."
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Shon Anzomi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2015.06.09 07:58:35 -
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Guys, you have put lot of valuable notes on this site, but I have to admit I have problems to get my head around this.
It looks like one of the ways of doing the site is to:
a) hack the calibration units and use coordinates to power up the LOW rift b) hack all the cans in the warp-in area for loot. c) use rift to get to the tractor room and hack the defence unit to deactivate the sentry in the tractor area d) warp away and back to get back to the starting place and fail the remote defence to get the clouds up and de-aggro the sentries e) get to tractor area, hack tractor and do the cans that are pulled in f) use rift to the hidden room and hack the VISIBLE cans (no hidden cans as they were pulled by the tractor?)
What I am thinking about is perhaps this is the way that will give you more loot in less time pressure, but can be potentially dangerous. Perhaps there is safer way, but with more time pressure so you wont get all the loot.
Would you think this way would work?
a) warp in, hack the calibration unit and power up the HIGH rift b) hack all the cans in the warp-in area for loot. c) hack the remote defense unit (it says it deactivated sentries farther from you , but activated one nearer e.g. sentries in hidden room are deactivated and sentry in tractor room activated) d) use rift to the hidden room and hack as many cans as possible extending the selfdestruct with the defense unit.
What do you think? I am still hesitant to risk my Astero even though I have three BPC's sitting in my hangar. I guess I will try to use Stratios to test this theory, but have you tried it? |
Shon Anzomi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2015.06.11 07:50:40 -
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Ok, I found the site yesterday and did it following way:
1. Hacked the cans in the warp-in area excluding the remote sentry defence 2. Hacked the coordinates units and activated the LOW rift. 3. Used rift to get to the tractor unit and hacked the remote defense. That deactivated sentry in tractor area. 4. Hacked tractor which started pulling cans. 5. Warped away and back to site (dont forget to BM the site!) 6. Hacked the remote defence unit in warp - in area - that deactivated one of the sentries at far end of the site. The sentry at tractor area did not reappear. 7. Hacked the coordinates units again and used the coordinates to power up the HIGH power rift. 8. Used rift to get to the hidden loot area and used remote sentry unit to deactivate sentries in that part of site. Another sentry spawned in the middle of the site, but it did not agress.
The hidden loot area did not have any containers hidden there - tractor has pulled six out and I did not find any other. Not sure if any are supposed to be there
9. Burned to the tractor area and looted all the cans.
So with one warp out/in the site can be done without any failed hacks or toxic clouds. Very very safe for tanked Stratios ( I have around 36kEHP and 68%resists) but perhaps if I changed the routine a bit it could be done with AB Astero. MWD Astero would most likely get out of range at 2km/s.
Any thoughts on this? My thoughts are that this site is actually tougher for Astero pilot than the Superior site. If you omit the mine room and archive you will still get much more loot from the Superior site at no risk whatsoever. I pulled around 86million in loot and perhaps another 100-130 can be made from BPC's but it is considerable time investment.
The coordinate units can be "farmed" for coordinates as they re-activate after some time. I have actually used some coordinates from site I found few days ago. So it may be a good idea to carry some coords on you if you want to run this site in lower security regions. |
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
286
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Posted - 2015.06.11 08:13:19 -
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Shon Anzomi wrote:The hidden loot area did not have any containers hidden there - tractor has pulled six out and I did not find any other. Not sure if any are supposed to be there Hidden loot area? The one that is accesable by high warp rift? If you activated tractor first there won't be any cans. Tractore pulled them from there. There is another hidden area, if you fail to hack defense unit several time, and guardian spawns. Warp rift emerges in the middle of the site near tractor beam.
"-What are you doing?"
"-Docking."(...)
-"It's not possible"
-"No, it's necessary."
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Shon Anzomi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2015.06.11 08:16:54 -
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Ah, all right. and where that rift goes? Still on grid or somewhere else completely?
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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
286
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Posted - 2015.06.11 08:40:32 -
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Shon Anzomi wrote:Ah, all right. and where that rift goes? Still on grid or somewhere else completely? Completely off the grid. There will be 4 cans with timer and timer reseter.
"-What are you doing?"
"-Docking."(...)
-"It's not possible"
-"No, it's necessary."
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Shon Anzomi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2015.06.18 21:16:06 -
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I tried failing the remote defence unit to get the clouds and the sentries still aggroed on me. Didnt work as expected at all. |
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
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Posted - 2015.06.29 06:26:37 -
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Shon Anzomi wrote:I tried failing the remote defence unit to get the clouds and the sentries still aggroed on me. Didnt work as expected at all. There must be a message about spawn of the sentries (big cloaked one from the entering rift). It will require failing few hacks. In the meantime sentries on grid will still be active and shooting you.
"-What are you doing?"
"-Docking."(...)
-"It's not possible"
-"No, it's necessary."
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Shon Anzomi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2015.06.29 08:36:55 -
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Yes, I did fail the remote defence hack, I think I needed good 5-6 times. Then the gas clouds spawned. I warped away and back and tried the tractor beam area. But the sentries from enclave area were smoking me like mad still and I had no way of countering them since they were in the
On anoother occasion I tried to do the site I actually did the first remote hack which despawned one sentry from the enclave and activated one in tractor area. Then I hacked the tractor area defense unit and tractor itself. Then I warped away and back and voi-la the sentries were locked onto the tractor beam and stopped agressing me.
So I could easily do the tractor beam area cans and then I could burn to the remote defense unit in the enclave area and fail it to get the clouds and hidden loot area rift. |
Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.05 02:49:55 -
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Shon Anzomi wrote:I tried failing the remote defence unit to get the clouds and the sentries still aggroed on me. Didnt work as expected at all. I think the sentries are going to attack you UNTIL you hack the tractor beam defense unit and THEN warp off or prop mode >50km away. You will need to be able to tank the damage until then.
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Shon Anzomi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2015.07.06 09:54:57 -
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Thats exactly what I did. I did hack the defense unit in the tractor area, warped off, returned to the start point, fail the defence unit there, warped off...
Upon arrival, there were clouds everywhere, tractor beam area was clear and three turrets in the sleeper enclave area all having a go at me. But that was once. I adjusted tactics since then. |
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Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.01 14:48:37 -
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Standard Cache Tip: If you screw up and hack the defense units in the calibration area without generating the hidden room rift -> you can fail the defense unit in the remote tower area after clearing the tractor area to generate the rift.
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