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Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.05 07:15:00 -
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Yes, because I would certainly make my maelstroms in a station with just a reprocessing plant with no direct access to a system with a manufacturing plant, only to then move all of them either to VFK, y-2 or m2-.
Yes, I think they're the dumb motherfuckers. I also think you have absolutely no clue as to how **** works in 0.0. At least not our little piece of 0.0. |
bilingi
Ghosts of the Storm
10
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Posted - 2011.12.05 22:15:00 -
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IS HE REALLY AS DUMB AS HE POSTS?
This is so funny.... |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
218
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Posted - 2011.12.05 22:24:00 -
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You're going to have to be more specific than that, sunshine. |
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
30
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Posted - 2011.12.06 14:53:00 -
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You totally missed the point. Basically you're paying for the privilege of losing ships to defend ops that sell you ships at inflated prices. The fact that you apparently totally missed this point was what billngi was talking about.
Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomine Tua Da Na Glorium |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
223
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Posted - 2011.12.06 14:58:00 -
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Oh dearie me, I have to pay someone a million or so over cost to buy, haul, fit, equip and setup contracts, all so I just have to travel to the staging system, search contracts and buy a single ship. Then, I have to pay an insurance fee, and when it's blown up, I get some money back. Then I tell the alliance I lost the ship, and I get more isk so I mostly break even, or at most lose a few million isk.
I'm literally crying into my bismuth tea here over how they dare take a small fee to make my life so much easier, and then pay me for it afterwards. Literally. |
Sub Prime
Perkone Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2011.12.06 15:02:00 -
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AFAIR the goon mining system is located in a deadend system in a TEST pocket - some buddies and myself got it down to level 3 by camping it with SB's but obviously they got it back up again. |
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
30
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Posted - 2011.12.06 15:08:00 -
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For some reason, PT Barnum just came to mind...
Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomine Tua Da Na Glorium |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
229
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Posted - 2011.12.06 19:40:00 -
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I was going to wait a while to see if a better explanation than a hint to the guy that popularized the phrase "there's a sucker born every minute", but I guess not.
So, since you think I'm a sucker, do tell how you think it is that I get my ships, and how you would solve the same task. |
Flakey Foont
Republic University Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2011.12.06 21:21:00 -
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Jim Hooknose wrote:Party Lips wrote:twiddles fingers yess yesssss come to low sec. muhahahaha Mwhahaha-no, I don't like being forced to play one way or the other. CCP will not make me go anywhere in eve I don't want to go. I will unsub first... wait... I already have.
Buh-bye!
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Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
229
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Posted - 2011.12.07 00:45:00 -
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I guess not. vOv |
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Bahr Cudas
Beta Ray Bill
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Posted - 2011.12.07 06:10:00 -
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I'm a High Sec PI operator. I don't mind the changes at all. In fact, I was feeling alittle guilty by the spoonfed ISK of the pre-Crucible PI setup.
Its basically just a cost-of-living increase across the board. Once the shock wears off pilots will return to it. The first half dozen exports are the hardest. Your wallet blinks and your butt clenches, but when you complete your high end products and sell them it all evens out in the end... |
Var Redin
SaberCorp Draconian Protection Syndicate
0
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Posted - 2011.12.12 02:41:00 -
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My taxes go up 100%, CCP's bank account gets $15.00 lighter per month. |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
279
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Posted - 2011.12.12 12:40:00 -
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And another one pretends to quit the game over an increase in costs which the market has already begun adjusting to.
vOv |
Esunisen
Les Tueurs de Killer Une Pour Tous
28
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Posted - 2011.12.12 23:39:00 -
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Jita Buy orders 5 mins ago: Broadcast Node: 1,408,002.20 isk Integrity Response Drones: 1,420,000.08 isk Nano-Factory: 908,182.29 isk Organic Mortar Applicatiors: 700,004.52 isk Recursive Computing Module: 1,100,000.37 isk Self-Harmonizing Power Core: 1,400,001.52 isk Sterile Conduits: 1,003,181.49 isk Wetware Mainframe: 1,670,000.00 isk
I did many test on Sisi: With my 24/7 P4 factory planet setup, i have to spend 6.9M isk per hour, and i get 8.5M isk per hour selling my P4s. There is still more taxes(41.7M/day) than profit (32.4M/day). Of course, if done in low/null/wh, there is 0 taxes. So those who are doing PI in highsec can't compete with others.
-> CCP has to add NPC buy orders @ 1,350,000 isk to solve the problem
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Gritz1
Ice Fire Warriors
12
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Posted - 2011.12.13 00:11:00 -
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Var Redin wrote:My taxes go up 100%, CCP's bank account gets $15.00 lighter per month.
You won't be missed. |
Ewa Cromwell
Sparrows Boys
0
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Posted - 2011.12.16 02:55:00 -
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So I was working out the maths as I run a POS with alts and was wondering if it's worth it to put them back up.
As an example, Mechanical Parts, made of precious metals and reactive metals
to get 1 unit of precious metal off the planet is 50 isk in taxes likewise 1 unit of reactive metals off the planet is also 50 isk
material ratio for mech parts is 40:5, or reduced, 8:1
importing 8 units of each to the planet is is 200 isk each
exporting 1 unit of mech parts 900 isk
so... exporting P1 50 X 8 X 2 = 800 isk importing P1 25 X 8X 2 = 400 isk exporting P2 900 X 1 = 900 isk
total cost for 1 mech part is 2100 isk
2 large POS's consume 7200 mech parts per 30 days or 1,512,000 isk per month (at just the tax rate).
Having been drinking while doing the maths I'm not going to guarantee the results, so if I botched the math please feel free to correct it.
I can see how this would cripple a noob because it would be hard to keep that much liquid isk on hand. Off loading 3 Pi planets and 2 P2 planets and reloading the same 2 P2 planets cost me just shy of 10 mil isk. |
Drachiel
Mercury LLC
0
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Posted - 2011.12.17 16:04:00 -
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It's pretty bad. 17% of these values is too high. If it dropped down to 12% or 10% it'd be in a good place. |
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