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CCP Gargant
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:00:05 -
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The way the EVE Online client is deployed is set to change next year. Instead of me trying to paraphrase how it works, I highly suggest you head on over and read the details in the dev blog written by CCP Snorlax.
It is found here.
Feedback will be highly appreciated as the starts rolling out so make sure to try it out!
CCP Gargant | EVE Universe esports Coordinator
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CCP Gargant
C C P C C P Alliance
910
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:03:16 -
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The formatting of the blog got screwed up. It will be available again once we've made it pretty.
CCP Gargant | EVE Universe esports Coordinator
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ChromeStriker
0ne Percent. Odin's Call
792
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:08:26 -
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Samsara Toldya
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
175
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:18:46 -
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Quote: What about the offline installer?
We will still offer a way to install from a pre-downloaded package, if for example you need to transfer it on a USB stick.
"Still"... I thought that option was no longer supported?
Say I have a slow connection without any options to upgrade - on top of that there is a monthly volume I am allowed to download until my connection speed is reduced even more (or I have to pay an extra fee for spare bandwith). As it is I'm running into volume issues every release and the new way to release patches won't change this. The new release cycle made this special situation even worse.
Right now (without 'exploiting' the no longer supported method) I do need an EVE installation to download the releases/patches before I am able to transfer it on a USB stick. At work I would be allowed to download files (lucky me) but for :reasons: I am not allowed to install EVE.
For sure I am not the only one with limited volume - please consider a way to download the releases/patches without a working EVE installation. Right now I create my own URL to download the .zip file as soon as I find out release/version-number. It sounds as if that wouldn't be possible next year
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13543
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:27:18 -
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I demand you leave my boot.ini alone
also does this mean I can make this a slim installation that never downloads any extra resources? Will I be able to play the game at heavily sucky textures and whatnot?
/c
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Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
1435
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:29:52 -
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What is this "shared location"? Please don't make it appdata or anything that maps to it. AppData stays on c:/ and I imagine for a lot of us that's typically a smaller SSD that's not really intended to go storing 15GB+ of EVE assets. |
Cristl
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:36:21 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:What is this "shared location"? Please don't make it appdata or anything that maps to it. AppData stays on c:/ and I imagine for a lot of us that's typically a smaller SSD that's not really intended to go storing 15GB+ of EVE assets.
A good question |
Airi Cho
Dark-Rising Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:36:35 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:What is this "shared location"? Please don't make it appdata or anything that maps to it. AppData stays on c:/ and I imagine for a lot of us that's typically a smaller SSD that's not really intended to go storing 15GB+ of EVE assets.
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Scarlet Bear
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:39:33 -
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Very much same way as World of Warcraft works, downloads it self as you play as you get to other part of map it downloads that part of the map
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CCP Maxwell
C C P C C P Alliance
28
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:39:34 -
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Airi Cho wrote:Sentient Blade wrote:What is this "shared location"? Please don't make it appdata or anything that maps to it. AppData stays on c:/ and I imagine for a lot of us that's typically a smaller SSD that's not really intended to go storing 15GB+ of EVE assets. +1
The default location is in C:\ProgramData, but you will be able to choose where to put the cache.
CCP Maxwell - QA Engineer - Team RnB
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Forlorn Wongraven
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
145
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:43:38 -
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So when reading this I get the impression that I can a very small install on my netbook just to log in my trader in Jita. Correct?
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TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
264
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:43:40 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:What is this "shared location"? Please don't make it appdata or anything that maps to it. AppData stays on c:/ and I imagine for a lot of us that's typically a smaller SSD that's not really intended to go storing 15GB+ of EVE assets.
Or let us set the AppData location in the installer, good we can choose it :D |
TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
264
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:45:13 -
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Its good we can still have the full installer or the download option, for my laptops I would go the light download and for my full system the full package, can you set it in general settings before updating? or in the update itself? |
Noriko Mai
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:47:44 -
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Quote:There are many implications to this change, but rest assured GÇôthat none of this will be deployed until we have full confidence in our new deployment method and are sure it will not disrupt your gameplay experience in EVE. Muahahahah hahahaha. Like the Launcher release? |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:47:47 -
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sounds interesting. i can imagine the client would continue downloading stuff while a noob would watch the intro, create the char or read tutorial text, till the client is complete.
my only concern is the following: it all sounded as if a handful of big "stuff" files will be exploded to thousands small files which could influence loading performance on anything which is not a ssd.
It also sounds as if it will complicate client updates for you guys. I guess the launcher will now only update the "core" and leave everything else for the client in on-demand fashion. If a stuff file breaks will the repair tool notice it?
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CCP Maxwell
C C P C C P Alliance
28
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:52:19 -
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Mac users that wish to try this out on Duality: We still have stability issues on the Mac, but if you head on to Duality, take a moment to enter the launcher settings and add /resManThreadCount=2 to the Startup Argument field.
CCP Maxwell - QA Engineer - Team RnB
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Kossaw
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
106
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:52:32 -
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Sounds a great idea....
What does the installer do when the disk runs out of space during the download - you know its going to happen. Some newbie is going to fill their C drive while playing the game.
Some parts of the world still have crappy internet service plans. Will there be any way to control how much gets downloaded and when ? Like can I play on basic resolution this afternoon but set the client to download the rest of the files at 3 am ?
Can I set the game client to update itself every day at 3 am without having to start the launcher manually ?
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Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda
1580
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Posted - 2014.12.16 15:56:41 -
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is there a way to stop the download after all low ressources have been loaded ? (thinking about mobile connections)
and does this mean that we will see super high res textures soon(tm)?
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Agent Known
Night Theifs DamnedNation
19
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Posted - 2014.12.16 16:00:04 -
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Just ran through the install and it does appear to go under %Appdata% ...so C:\Users\user\Appdata\Local\CCP.
Edit: Also, it's configured in the Launcher settings to be under C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache ...so it can be changed. |
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CCP Maxwell
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.16 16:04:34 -
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Agent Known wrote:Just ran through the install and it does appear to go under %Appdata% ...so C:\Users\user\Appdata\Local\CCP.
Edit: Also, it's configured in the Launcher settings to be under C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache ...so it can be changed.
Those would likely be the usual client settings. Not the resources. Have you tried looking into C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache ?
CCP Maxwell - QA Engineer - Team RnB
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Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
1053
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Posted - 2014.12.16 16:05:35 -
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so whats the point of this exactly? .. will it speed things up or down?
Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists.
ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name.. remove drone assist mechanic.
Nerf web strength ..... Make the blaster eagle worth using please.
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Agent Known
Night Theifs DamnedNation
19
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Posted - 2014.12.16 16:11:32 -
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CCP Maxwell wrote:Agent Known wrote:Just ran through the install and it does appear to go under %Appdata% ...so C:\Users\user\Appdata\Local\CCP.
Edit: Also, it's configured in the Launcher settings to be under C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache ...so it can be changed. Those would likely be the usual client settings. Not the resources. Have you tried looking into C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache ?
Yep, I realized that after I had posted and edited my post :)
This'll be helpful for those with SSDs who want to store the cache elsewhere. |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda
1580
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Posted - 2014.12.16 16:12:35 -
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Harvey James wrote:so whats the point of this exactly? .. will it speed things up or down?
this separates the program part of the client from the audio and textures part of the client
this is gonna make it much easier to manipulate one of the two without touching the other (you could, for example reinstall the program part without having to reinstal the audio and textures (which make up a massive part of the download size)
or you could copy the ressources from a friends computer and easily plug them into your own client when you are on a really bad connection
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
555
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Posted - 2014.12.16 16:13:30 -
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Harvey James wrote:so whats the point of this exactly? .. will it speed things up or down? The goal is that you won't notice any difference when playing the game.
The primary driver for this change is to get people into the game quicker GÇô both new players, downloading a trial for the first time and existing players patching after major updates.
There is less to download before you can enter the game, and the game itself will download the rest as it needs it.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Tarsas Phage
Freight Club
349
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Posted - 2014.12.16 16:16:58 -
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CCP Snorlax, how will you see the following scenario play out from a performance perspective given the following:
1) I'm the member of a big 0.0 alliance 2) I just reinstalled my computer, or am logging on from a computer that otherwise doesn't have the EVE Client already installed. I am also a user who is unaware of the on-deman nature of the EVE Client, because hey we're not all tech geeks.
When I install the on-demand client, I log in and immediately get in on a fleet. This fleet sets out and gets embroiled in a fight where many different ship models are used. Perhaps we travel between two regions during this fight, which may have different assets for stargates, nebula, and the like.
How will my session changes work under such load? Will I black screen until all assets are fetched from CCP's CDN? What happens when a ship warps on grid and I don't have the asset for that ship already fetched? Will my client freeze until it is loaded?
Another, similar scenario: Install on-demand client on undock from Jita 4-4 on a busy day. |
Noriko Mai
1670
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Posted - 2014.12.16 16:19:44 -
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CCP Maxwell wrote:Agent Known wrote:Just ran through the install and it does appear to go under %Appdata% ...so C:\Users\user\Appdata\Local\CCP.
Edit: Also, it's configured in the Launcher settings to be under C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache ...so it can be changed. Those would likely be the usual client settings. Not the resources. Have you tried looking into C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache ? Can you please leave your dirty fingers from my filesystem. Stay where I allow you to through the install path! |
Sarmatiko
1654
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Posted - 2014.12.16 16:22:31 -
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CCP Maxwell wrote:Those would likely be the usual client settings. Not the resources. Have you tried looking into C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache ? Why not in actual game folder by default? Before you edit this setting first time, launcher already downloading cache to ProgramData and then leaves thousands of empty directories there. |
Agent Known
Night Theifs DamnedNation
19
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Posted - 2014.12.16 16:24:48 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:CCP Maxwell wrote:Those would likely be the usual client settings. Not the resources. Have you tried looking into C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache ? Why not in actual game folder by default? Before you edit this setting first time, launcher already downloading cache to ProgramData and then leaves thousands of empty directories there. This is probably because the client will share this cache with others installs of the same client (hence SharedCache). This also means those who test on Singularity won't have to download and patch the entire client twice ...at least, that's what I'm thinking. Not quite sure how it would handle that. |
Dominique Vasilkovsky
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2014.12.16 16:25:40 -
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Will we get an option to force the full download so we don't have to rely on any streaming of data on demand as you can bet it will try to download something just as you are about to blow something up?
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CCP Maxwell
C C P C C P Alliance
32
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Posted - 2014.12.16 16:29:38 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:CCP Maxwell wrote:Agent Known wrote:Just ran through the install and it does appear to go under %Appdata% ...so C:\Users\user\Appdata\Local\CCP.
Edit: Also, it's configured in the Launcher settings to be under C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache ...so it can be changed. Those would likely be the usual client settings. Not the resources. Have you tried looking into C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache ? Can you please leave your dirty fingers from my filesystem. Stay where I allow you to through the install path!
Ummmm......Sure.
CCP Maxwell - QA Engineer - Team RnB
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