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Bantu Armer
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.12.20 11:43:49 -
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Hello all,
I woke up this morning and checked out dev-blogs; specifically the one containing this image. It occurred to me rather than completely redesigning the ships in a retcon manner so only the new model is available, why not make older models available too as perhaps relic edition (none or limited module slots like the Primea).
For example:
Exequror Class Mk I (Relic Edition/Old model) Exequror Class Mk II (New model)
From an aesthetic and lore stand point it would make sense, also making the history of ships a legacy to be explored.
TL;DR: Would you be interested in the older models of ships being available as relics and testament to times past.
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Artassaut
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
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Posted - 2014.12.20 11:54:47 -
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While I would enjoy historic ships like that, the logistics of keeping the old models graphical technology up to date with the rest of the ships makes this unlikely. I doubt the art team wants to check for bugs on every old model and keep the models up to date every time they decide to update how the engine renders the ships. |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
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Posted - 2014.12.20 13:19:59 -
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Been asked before.
Dev response (which I cannot find) was akin like, "that would be a nightmare to manage".
So, nope, not going to happen. |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
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Posted - 2014.12.20 13:33:26 -
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Found it : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5164689#post5164689 |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
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Posted - 2014.12.20 13:41:32 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:Been asked before.
Dev response (which I cannot find) was akin like, "that would be a nightmare to manage".
So, nope, not going to happen.
If CCP did maintain the old models and added new redesigned models it would double the size of the database at a minimum. |
Agatir Solenth
Servants of the Throne Worlds
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Posted - 2014.12.20 14:03:53 -
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I miss the old Anathema and Crucifier models. |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.20 15:37:01 -
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still plenty of cool relics to be had, most of them still flying. like titans
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Jade Blackwind
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
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Posted - 2014.12.20 15:44:00 -
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Agatir Solenth wrote:I miss the old Anathema and Crucifier models. Old Helios (Maulus hull). Never forget.
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Odelya d'Hanguest
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES 24eme Legion Etrangere
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Posted - 2014.12.20 15:58:38 -
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The old Maller was a wonderful and elegant little elephant! |
Bantu Armer
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.12.20 16:11:18 -
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Well, that answers that thinks.
Development nightmare for nothing but aesthetics; not worth the time then.
Was just a thought. Many thanks.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.12.20 17:12:33 -
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Maybe they can fire up an old defunct server with the 2005 code and provide a 2005 client for people to log into and get all teary and nostalgic about. |
Trii Seo
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Posted - 2014.12.20 17:29:22 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:Been asked before.
Dev response (which I cannot find) was akin like, "that would be a nightmare to manage".
So, nope, not going to happen. If CCP did maintain the old models and added new redesigned models it would double the size of the database at a minimum.
Not true.
First of all, sets of new textures + models would increase the size of the client.
Second of all, any changes like texture reworks, lighting changes etc. would have to be applied to more models, increasing the amount of work they have to do.
Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
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DankoShepard
CutThroat Mining and Manufacturing
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Posted - 2014.12.20 19:29:01 -
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It would be nice for us, however it means a huge amount of work for the devs... |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
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Posted - 2014.12.20 20:43:40 -
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Trii Seo wrote:Caviar Liberta wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:Been asked before.
Dev response (which I cannot find) was akin like, "that would be a nightmare to manage".
So, nope, not going to happen. If CCP did maintain the old models and added new redesigned models it would double the size of the database at a minimum. Not true. First of all, sets of new textures + models would increase the size of the client. Second of all, any changes like texture reworks, lighting changes etc. would have to be applied to more models, increasing the amount of work they have to do.
Trii_Seo_old_model_01 ---> to server ---> to everyone in system with you Trii_Seo_new_model_01 ---> to server ---> to everyone in system with you
When you change ships it still has to update the database as to which ship you are in and everyone that will load you on grid. |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2014.12.20 22:09:32 -
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While the OP asks a very relevant question. I have a more important one. Why does the Exequror now look like a caldari ship?
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Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
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Posted - 2014.12.20 23:01:53 -
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Wouldnt mind seeing some statics made of the old models to be used in exploration sites (ie wrecks in old battle sites) or maybe as part of the NPC traffic in and around stations. Or both.
But as options for capsuleers to fly? No. Not worth dev time to maintain.
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Serene Repose
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Posted - 2014.12.21 06:22:51 -
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First, OP, tell us this. Would you buy an Edsel?
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Niobe Song
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.21 09:57:48 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:While the OP asks a very relevant question. I have a more important one. Why does the Exequror now look like a caldari ship?
It looks like a Star Wars Corellian Corvette and I love it!
I didn't particularly think the Exequror was badly in need of a remodel but I love what they did with it. |
Rhatar Khurin
Happy Asteroid Ltd
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Posted - 2014.12.21 10:03:51 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:While the OP asks a very relevant question. I have a more important one. Why does the Exequror now look like a caldari ship?
Sooner or later there wont be any Asymmetrical ships left in EVE |
Trii Seo
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Posted - 2014.12.21 10:58:23 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:Trii Seo wrote:Caviar Liberta wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:Been asked before.
Dev response (which I cannot find) was akin like, "that would be a nightmare to manage".
So, nope, not going to happen. If CCP did maintain the old models and added new redesigned models it would double the size of the database at a minimum. Not true. First of all, sets of new textures + models would increase the size of the client. Second of all, any changes like texture reworks, lighting changes etc. would have to be applied to more models, increasing the amount of work they have to do. Trii_Seo_old_model_01 ---> to server ---> to everyone in system with you Trii_Seo_new_model_01 ---> to server ---> to everyone in system with you When you change ships it still has to update the database as to which ship you are in and everyone that will load you on grid.
I might've misread your post as "It would only affect the object db" - yeah, though the exact impact depends on how the database itself is built. I doubt it'd actually double in size.
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2014.12.21 13:41:28 -
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Rhatar Khurin wrote:BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:While the OP asks a very relevant question. I have a more important one. Why does the Exequror now look like a caldari ship? Sooner or later there wont be any Asymmetrical ships left in EVE Yeah, I liked the old design. Could have used a more detailed model, but the new one is kinda boring.
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.23 05:44:54 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:While the OP asks a very relevant question. I have a more important one. Why does the Exequror now look like a caldari ship? The Caldari ships you fly look very different than the ones I fly apparently. |
Mharius Skjem
Opacity Circles
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Posted - 2014.12.23 10:27:03 -
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Serene Repose wrote:First, OP, tell us this. Would you buy an Edsel?
I would, that's a fine looking automobile.
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
636
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Posted - 2014.12.23 11:53:03 -
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It would be exceptionally cool if only newly-built versions of the ship after the change had the new shape, and all the ones already built and unpackaged kept the old model til they died.
Would be a collossal pain in the ass (or completely impossible) from a programming/coding/whatever standpoint, but that wont stop me dreaming |
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