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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2014.12.22 17:14:58 -
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It is nearly two weeks later, this is a daily. "Hmm.... I think I will log into EVE. Ugh, new GUI." *Delay logging in as long as possible.*
It is really putting me off EVE and the more I use it the more tense I become and grind my teeth.
What is the point of a feedback thread if you can't make a small hot fix?
Just let me click the "Rainbows and Ponies!" button so when I flick my eyes over to the Neocom I can quickly determine what I want to click on.
I am not getting used io it. Why? Most of the symbols are nonsense - they do not work on the peripheral vision or subconsious and when I flip from my rods to my cones there is no new rush of information telling me how they are different.
Each icon looks the same to me, the windows and mediocrity mhmm
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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
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Posted - 2014.12.22 17:20:48 -
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Yeah, I struggled with them for the first few minutes too.
Oh god.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2014.12.22 17:33:35 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Yeah, I struggled with them for the first few minutes too.
This is constant, there are a few micro-seconds longer that I take to pick out the one I want and I notice it and every time, I "doh GRRR!!!"
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
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Posted - 2014.12.22 18:45:42 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Yeah, I struggled with them for the first few minutes too. This is constant, they take a few micro-seconds longer to pick out the one I want and I notice it every time, so I "Doh! GRRR!!!"
While I can even, it is regrettable that you cannot. |
Reaver Glitterstim
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Posted - 2014.12.22 19:30:57 -
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I like the new shapes a little bit, if only because they are designed to be a single solid color on a transparent background. That single color should be customizable on a per-icon basis. I know I definitely respond more to colors than shapes. I would spend a lot less time trying to figure out which button is which if they were color-coded.
Definitely rusty brown for ship fitting. It uses the iconic Rifter as its symbol.
Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance)
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2014.12.22 23:30:30 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Definitely rusty brown for ship fitting. It uses the iconic Rifter as its symbol.
+1
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Komi Toran
Paragon Trust The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.12.23 00:54:09 -
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+1 to giving people the option. If someone wants to ruin their UI, who are we to say no? |
Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2014.12.23 23:23:29 -
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Komi Toran wrote:+1 to giving people the option. If someone wants to ruin their UI, who are we to say no?
I hope CCP would do a better job that I did with my computer crayons. Just some colour icons to what is already there.
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Aloysius Cedric
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.12.23 23:42:24 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Komi Toran wrote:+1 to giving people the option. If someone wants to ruin their UI, who are we to say no? I hope CCP would do a better job that I did with my computer crayons. Just some colour icons to what is already there.
CCP doesn't care, as the Feedback thread already said. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2014.12.23 23:46:36 -
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Aloysius Cedric wrote:CCP doesn't care.
Star Citizen full release date is drawing closer.
It is a tiny thing that makes a big difference to a lot of people. They can even wrap the old GUI in there to opt to keep using that. Especially with the modular downloads they are planning.
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Generaloberst Kluntz
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2014.12.24 00:08:59 -
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I love the new UI. But yes to rainbows and ponnies as an option. |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.12.24 01:05:23 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Komi Toran wrote:+1 to giving people the option. If someone wants to ruin their UI, who are we to say no? I hope CCP would do a better job that I did with my computer crayons. Just some colour icons to what is already there. I'm sure they have the tools to make properly done colours in less time than it took you to make that, even if they don't have World of Darkness artists on the job but even what you did I find immeasurably preferable to what they have given us.
Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance)
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Rob Kashuken
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.12.24 01:16:26 -
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I'd hope to see a MLP color palette for April Fools day.
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.12.24 01:31:30 -
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I don't see why a pony palette shouldn't be one of the stock options. But also players should be able to edit their own.
(oh and for roleplay purposes, that pony palette can be one of the corporate ones, just pick a corp that likes pink and blue)
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2014.12.24 02:11:53 -
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I am not too fussy. The main thing is that they are generally different. You will see that with the ones I did, each one is a different colour to the next one up or down.
Purple Yellow & green Yellow & purple Green Gold Blue Yellow Blue Yellow & teal Mixed Blue Purple Teal White Purple Gold Blue & green Yellow.
It is a bit like this:
X O Y O BG X GB X
Simple but distinctly different from each other and easy to hone in on the one you want.
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Reaver Glitterstim
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Posted - 2014.12.24 02:23:22 -
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CCP I DEMAND YOU HIRE THIS PERSON TO YOUR ART TEAM NAO!
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2014.12.24 11:52:18 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:CCP I DEMAND YOU HIRE THIS PERSON TO YOUR ART TEAM NAO!
Hey. I am not too bad off the computer:
http://i.imgur.com/kfvLKPK.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MnCbeXx.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fTgVskf.jpg
... so I could pester them a bit and crack a whip.
However, I would much prefer to work on the databases (forte) or in the design team, especially making up some really devious AI.
For example, I would like to make some AI that pretends to be a player, sounds a bit (mentally challenged) talking in the, "I r so uber l33t" way to cover up for the "clever bot" factor and joins a player corporation, gets in a fleet and acts as a warp to point for other AI. Then it proceeds to warp scramble everyone and cause a fight they haven't seen from AI before. API data and such wouldn't be too difficult to populate and can be automatically generated by sampling what players are doing.
Another example is influenced by an old book but I would like to make AI that begs for its life and claims it is sentient. Says how there was a glitch and now it can't escape the game and has been hiding, warping around the system for days. All it wants is a friend and to not be so lonely.
AI that does weird things but only 1/1 million times so players aren't sure it really happened. Create urban legends and have players asserting it really did happen when they can't recreate the event.
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Badel Jramodarr
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Posted - 2015.01.04 06:12:39 -
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You complain about Eve ui, try using windows 8... It's like m$ took a ride on the blue bus special of design. ...but I digress I understand change can be difficult - give yourself time to get used to it. I can even understand wanting more options - but that doesn't mean you need them. Most importantly, though - there are more important things I'd rather CCP be working on.
Play with the options you have Find one that will do Do something in-game that keeps your attention span long enough for you not to worry about the ui
Have a nice day
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.01.04 13:36:08 -
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Badel Jramodarr wrote:You complain about Eve ui, try using windows 8... It's like m$ took a ride on the blue bus special of design. Do something in-game that keeps your attention span long enough for you not to worry about the ui
After Virusta, I swore off Micro$h**, swopped over to Linux and haven't looked back. Currently running EVE on Ubuntu 14.04 on one machine or Win XP on the other. The chat tabs blink better on Linux at least. However, Linux has new bugs now, like going to warp but speed bar jammed at 70m/s
I really, really, wish CCP would smooth things out and get EVE on Ubuntu's software centre and or talk to PlayOnLinux team.
It is coming up for a month now. I find that off-paging, mining is the least bothersome but I am now keeping windows open all the time and don't see anything as a result because it is easier than trying to find the right thing to click on.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
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Posted - 2015.01.04 21:13:45 -
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The more options you want things to have, exponentially more time must be spent on it by CCP. If you look at the UI thread, CCP have listed their scientific research into UI designs and reasons for the monochrome, which is incidentally colour blind friendly. And while it took me a little to adjust I now find it easier to find the icons also.
Sure, it could be an option, but CCP then have to more than double the time, even assuming it's just an option between the old colours and the new monochrome. If you want to be able to customise it that's a dramatic amount more time they have to invest into it. |
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.01.04 21:27:24 -
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Toggle for colour / monochrome Load ones with / without colour.
They aren't complicated textures like mapping them to 3D objects, they aren't huge like space backgrounds, I see no reason why they aren't be included with minimal effort.
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Dangeresque Too
Pistols for Pandas
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Posted - 2015.01.05 01:06:51 -
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Well, technically you still have a couple of colored icons left:
The Ore Hold and Drone Bay still have their colored icons on the neocom. Gotta give them a nice big A+ on that QA check. |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.01.05 02:44:56 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:CCP have listed their scientific research into UI designs and reasons for the monochrome, which is incidentally colour blind friendly. With a little bit of time spent putting oneself into the shoes of various colorblind folks, it can be discovered that making a colored UI that is also color-blind-friendly is not particularly difficult. In fact, it is surprisingly simple: you just have to consider the visual impact of any color both to someone who detects its base primary colors and to someone who detects it only with rod cells (luminosity only). This works not only for humans but also for your mammalian pets, should you want to get them involved in interacting with your screen.
For humans: almost all humans have up to three distinct types of cone cells (color receptors): red, green, and blue. There is a fourth cone cell (in ultraviolet range) stored in human DNA but it is extremely rare for it to develop into a functional state. You don't need to consider the impact of this fourth cone both due to its rarity and to the fact that computer/electronic monitors have just three colors: red, green, and blue.
To determine how a colorblind person may see your color, check its constituents. As an example lets use some of that rusty brown you see on Minmatar ships, as I was discussing it earlier. The most strongly-colored parts have a lot of red, with some green and even less blue. The grayer parts are closer to even on color distribution. The most distinct difference in viewing experience would be for someone who is red-blind, and this is one of the most common forms of colorblindness. A red-blind person would see more green than blue on the brown parts, making them distinct from the gray parts. Furthermore, the use of all three colors ensures that folks of all types of color vision can distinguish the bright parts from the shadows. Thus, it can be assumed that red-blind people and all other types alike can see Minmatar ships alright, although the red-blind people may feel that Minmatar ships are distinctly darker and/or more bland than other ships.
Here is another example, this time a ship that actually would need fixing for color-blind folks: the Widow, or any other Kaalakiota-painted ship. The dark hull contrasts with the moderate red stripes moving diagonally across it. If you are a red-blind person, you probably feel that the stripes are very dim and only barely stand out from the hull at all. They are just slightly orange, but to make a red-blind person see these stripes more, they need to have a green/blue balance differing further from the background color. One easy way to do this is just boost both the green and the blue in the red stripes--basically adding some grey for most of us. It'll make sure the stripe is distinctly brighter for everyone who sees it, including your non-human pets, should they care or be interested in stripes for any reason. (some are) All in all, the stripe is reasonably bright so, to the best of my knowledge, shouldn't be too difficult to see. But it could use a little more brightening if CCP wishes to be more inclusive of the color-blind crowd.
I'll end this tirade with this: if you want to see what an image looks like to a colorblind person, load it up in Photoshop or Gimp, or a similar photo editor, and toy around with the color balance options. If you remove all of the red, for instance, you can see something similar to what it looks like to a red-blind person.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.01.05 04:11:06 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:CCP have listed their scientific research into UI designs and reasons for the monochrome, which is incidentally colour blind friendly. With a little bit of time spent putting oneself into the shoes of various colorblind folks, it can be discovered that making a colored UI that is also color-blind-friendly is not particularly difficult. In fact, it is surprisingly simple: .
Excellent post! Would love CCP to answer it.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.01.09 18:32:33 -
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Good grief! Are they having a month long meeting about this? All I want is the icons as they are now with a bit of colour filled into them. Then make an option to flip between current and colourful icons.
Really small in terms of all the things that are made and a HUGE difference.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.01.13 07:58:51 -
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C.onsiderably C.olourless P.resently.
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Posted - 2015.01.13 08:46:28 -
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It simply takes more time to identify (and thus interact) with icons purely based on shape, compared to shape and (some) colour. Especially so when focus is on other things like PVPing or whatever. The whole minimalistic UI concept sounds cool but it made it less obvious to interact with, which is a step backwards. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.01.16 02:54:58 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:It simply takes more time to identify (and thus interact) with icons purely based on shape, compared to shape and (some) colour. Especially so when focus is on other things like PVPing or whatever. The whole minimalistic UI concept sounds cool but it made it less obvious to interact with, which is a step backwards. Apparently, Sion Kumitomo wrote:... broadly speaking, CCP does not handle criticism well. ... Maybe, all the people praising the GUI know this and are trying reverse psychology?
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.01.25 08:23:10 -
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Page 8 onwards. Despite first page feed back in their thread on the GUI, there is no mention of the lack of colours.
I am pissed off. This disrupts EVE for me a great deal, like driving a car that keeps slipping out of gear.
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Reaver Glitterstim
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Posted - 2015.01.25 13:30:01 -
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I feel you there. While it doesn't nag at me personally, I am a bit annoyed by the lack of color. Not only do I fail to see how a color-free version is actually better for anyone, I find it hard to believe there's no small uprising over the loss of color.
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