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Dangeresque Too
Pistols for Pandas
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Posted - 2014.12.25 03:08:46 -
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So, what, inside of 3 weeks before the next patch right? Yet not a peep or anything about the next T3 dessie that I can find.
Is it done yet? When can we start testing it on Sisi so that there is at least a small glimmer of hope that any feedback given would be read in time and that the same feedback might even have time to be considered before pushing the ship to TQ?
"The other 3 tactical destroyers will follow in upcoming releases. Read more about this new ship (Confessor) in an upcoming dev blog." DevBlog: Coming to EVE Online in the Rhea release on December 9th
Of course we never did get that promised devblog about the confessor, or a few other things mentioned in that devblog either.
And seeing how there is no mention of a new T3 dessie in the "Coming with Proteus", did they just stealth delay it or maybe they haven't even got it ready enough to announce? |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
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Posted - 2014.12.25 04:12:46 -
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They've already said in a devblog that the Minmatar T3 destroyer will be in the February release. |
Xercodo
Vector Galactic Did he say Jump
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Posted - 2014.12.25 04:17:55 -
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Guys, devs NEVER promise everything because development schedules and timelines are always fluid.
So anyone that claims the devs have promised anything will be written off as bullshit.
The only thing they'll promise to do is "look in to it" and that doesn't imply they have to have a positive outcome when they do.
The Drake is a Lie
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
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Posted - 2014.12.25 04:42:17 -
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"For those of you waiting for the Minmatar Tactical Destroyer, I can report that Honorary Fleet Architect Lotrec Emetin is seeing the last details come into place and the ship is scheduled for the Tiamat release on February 17th."
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Dangeresque Too
Pistols for Pandas
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Posted - 2014.12.25 13:02:55 -
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Wait, what? Is this the same CCP you are talking about? Are they in fact waiting until they finish a ship before they put it out for testing? Its not like they didn't give this much time to take care of the Confessor... I honestly don't know why they don't have all of them mostly done already instead of waiting until the release window before they are out to seemingly start working on them. You know, don't put yourself in a panic-ed rush if you don't need to and can easily avoid it.
Also, very keen of them to put a little snippet about not actually delivering on their "every 6 weeks the next dessie will come out" promise they made somewhere in the forums in one of the threadnaughts in the Proteus Theme Music section of the devblog. Now those Gallente pilots will be really upset having to wait 24 months after the Amarr got theirs.
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Dangeresque Too
Pistols for Pandas
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Posted - 2014.12.25 13:04:25 -
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Xercodo wrote:Guys, devs NEVER promise everything because development schedules and timelines are always fluid.
So anyone that claims the devs have promised anything will be written off as bullshit.
The only thing they'll promise to do is "look in to it" and that doesn't imply they have to have a positive outcome when they do. So kinda like accepting feedback for things. You know, where they start a thread asking for feedback and then completely ignore the entire thread, never responding if only to answer questions that have already been answered 100x over.
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty. Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2014.12.26 09:48:22 -
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Just another reason why staggered releases of ships are a terrible idea.
Welcome to my world, guys.
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Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.12.27 04:13:23 -
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Ooohhhhh, this is a whine thread.
Ok. |
Dangeresque Too
Pistols for Pandas
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Posted - 2014.12.27 12:49:51 -
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Rowells wrote:Ooohhhhh, this is a whine thread.
Ok. You mean another "I expected CCP to do their job" thread? Guess accountability counts as whining now. Please grow up and if you don't have anything to say relating to the thread keep it to yourself. But this is the internet, so you probably don't care anyways.
Seeing how their idea of clear and obvious communication was to put a little snippet about not actually delivering in the Proteus Theme Music section of the devblog, because I'm really concerned and overly excited about getting new menu theme music on a screen I only see for a couple of seconds.
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Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2014.12.27 15:40:22 -
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Xercodo wrote:Guys, devs NEVER promise everything because development schedules and timelines are always fluid.
So anyone that claims the devs have promised anything will be written off as bullshit.
The only thing they'll promise to do is "look in to it" and that doesn't imply they have to have a positive outcome when they do.
they used to promise then they learned
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Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
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Posted - 2014.12.29 17:19:13 -
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Dangeresque Too wrote: "every 6 weeks the next dessie will come out" promise they made
Fozzie directly said that they were not going to tell us the release dates of the other three tactical destroyers and that we should not expect a new one with each subsequent release.
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.12.29 18:04:21 -
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Dangeresque Too; do you have a quote or source for the 'every six weeks' thing you mentioned? Pretty sure that they promised a release order, but didn't specifically state when the releases would be, as Ned Thomas indicated. What's more, the only other thing I notice slipped from Rhea was the asteroid environment stuff, which'll be out in a couple weeks regardless.
What'll be interesting is whether they do an every-two-release method for the next two T3 dessies after this, or whether increased developer through-put will have Caldari and Gallente getting theirs in the third and fourth releases of the year.
Either way, gives me time to max out my gunnery skills. vOv
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp Vae. Victis.
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Posted - 2014.12.29 20:18:51 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:Dangeresque Too wrote: "every 6 weeks the next dessie will come out" promise they made Fozzie directly said that they were not going to tell us the release dates of the other three tactical destroyers and that we should not expect a new one with each subsequent release. Shhhh, don't confuse him with facts... he's on a roll.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp Vae. Victis.
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Posted - 2014.12.29 20:20:13 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Just another reason why staggered releases of ships are a terrible idea.
Welcome to my world, guys. Because it would be far, far better to wait months for the content that is ready now....
Plus, everyone knows that any technological break through happens simultaneously everywhere at once. It' would completely unbelievable and historically inaccurate for one nation/group to develop a new technology and then other nations scramble to come up with counters (or their own version).
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Ghaustyl Kathix
Rising Thunder
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Posted - 2015.01.01 17:19:13 -
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Dangeresque Too wrote:Are they in fact waiting until they finish a ship before they put it out for testing?
Are you complaining that something wasn't 100% perfect when they put it on the test server? That's not really complain-worthy unless it's screwed up when it's put on the main server.
Besides, they said the Confessor worked perfectly fine in their internal testing builds. It got a bit screwed up when it was actually put on Sisi. |
Xindi Kraid
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2015.01.07 23:34:35 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Just another reason why staggered releases of ships are a terrible idea.
Welcome to my world, guys. I am starting to agree. It was bad enough when we were expecting to wait 5-7 weeks per ship, but if they can't give us one per release we could be waiting a year for th last destroyer. Regardless of how good it is to have players influencing these things, waiting that long for every race to be represented is pretty bad. Don't even bother bringing up the fact that you can train for the Amarr ships in the mean time; not only should we not have to, since most of ship training is actually equipment and support, that's more of a detour than it initially appears. |
Dangeresque Too
Pistols for Pandas
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Posted - 2015.01.08 00:14:27 -
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That, and one would think they would at the very least theory craft them all at the same time, you know, to kinda balance them against each other instead of completing each one before starting on the next. So if a direction or line of thought changes by the time we get to the 3rd ship, how are the last 2 ships going to fit with the first 2?
Are the devs at CCP really so taxed and busy they can't just finish these ships and at least put them out for testing and feedback? I mean heck, the confessor is still broken with the mode switching buttons where you they don't show up to begin with unless you undock from a station. |
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