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Dar'Nalaa
GankBears
3
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Posted - 2014.12.28 13:43:49 -
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Our war on gankers is about to start but as we all know there are many ways to wage war, One way in which code do very well is in the field of Psychological Warfare, they have set rules for contact with targets and their minerbumping site to spin the results of these contacts.
The point of which is to maximize the tears of there targets, be it from ganking , corp audit ( corp infiltration) well we all know what gankers do .....
What i would like are the chat logs of any contact with gank groups, some of these people play the nastiest group of villains in eve , after all who makes friends with people in a corp, just to rob them , speaks volume to me . Lets all hear the real side of the storys and help stop the fabrication and ridiculing that seems to sustains them
So send me any contact you have with them before Jame 315 Edits it, please send to me in game only
On a final note, war is a messy business and innocent people may get hurt along the way , and indeed have, by our operative, to which i am very sorry but its for the Greater Good in making High sec a little bit safer.
Dar'Nalaa
ps Do not let any member of your corp or alliance gank in high sec or you will be targeted yourselves, |
D2-100
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.12.28 13:48:11 -
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I like this , good luck , talk in game some time |
Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
60
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Posted - 2014.12.28 14:18:58 -
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Dar'Nalaa wrote: On a final note, war is a messy business and innocent people may get hurt along the way , and indeed have, by our operative, to which i am very sorry but its for the Greater Good in making High sec a little bit safer.
For the greater good? You are beginning to sound like a dangerous egomaniacal dictator here. Waging war for the greater good, breaking eggs to make omelets, where will it stop? Who voted you in as leader, ay? Just know that there are freedom lovers everywhere who will stand up to your bullying ways. We in the new order will not tolerate would-be tyrants trying to take control of high-sec to sate their own lust for power.
What you see is not a fabrication, trust me. I have seen it first hand. The carebears really are as vile as you see on minerbumping. Try ganking a few and you will see for yourself. Even just bumping them out of range of their rocks (for profit) sends them into a rage.
And we do not make friends with people in corps just to steal from them. |
Mag's
the united
18388
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Posted - 2014.12.28 14:37:37 -
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Dar'Nalaa wrote:What i would like are the chat logs of any contact with gank groups, some of these people play the nastiest group of villains in eve , after all who makes friends with people in a corp, just to rob them , speaks volume to me . Lets all hear the real side of the storys and help stop the fabrication and ridiculing that seems to sustains them Real side? You mean the calls for RL violence against those playing a video game? I think you'll find the vast majority of those come from the so called 'good guys'. That's what should be speaking volumes.
As far as people joining corps to make friends and rob them, it's called Eveonline. Welcome.
**Destination SkillQueue:- **
It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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John E Normus
New Order Logistics CODE.
393
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Posted - 2014.12.28 14:39:12 -
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Dear Rebel Leader #276,
gf
John
Between Ignorance and Wisdom
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Leto Thule
Obsidian Cadre
1791
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Posted - 2014.12.28 14:43:08 -
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One must laugh at the intent on blowing up ships that never intend to make it back to the docking ring anyhow.
Want to win against gankers? PM one and they will tell you how:
Tank your fit, use a scout, and watch dscan. Victory!
Big Fat Forum Meanie and Thanatos Scammer
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Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2014.12.28 15:02:35 -
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The best way to curtail the activities of gankers is to teach their lazy and entitled prey that they need to
- Be at the keyboard
- Tank their ships
- Not go afk
- Not to act like small children who rage incoherently and inappropriately when their toys are taken away explosively
- That highsec is not safe, it is merely safer than some other parts of the game
- That Concord are reactive not proactive
- That they, and they alone, are responsible for the own safety
- That the people who prey on them are playing the game in a way that doesn't violate the rules as they currently stand
CONCORD would like to remind you that the only thing under their protection is the doughnut shop found on level 2 of the food-mall in every station. ~ planto meus dies punk ~
NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
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Hiasa Kite
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
104
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Posted - 2014.12.28 15:13:08 -
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I fear that OP will be walking away from this endeavour gravely disappointed.
People to vote for CSM X(in order): Sabriz Adoudel, Steve Ronuken, Manfred Sideous, Mike Azariah, Gorski Car
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Tasspool Harp
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2014.12.28 15:56:49 -
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As much as I sense a train wreck coming, and despite the fact that reading minerbumping is a guilty pleasure of mine , I applaud your valour. In no way do I wish to discourage your endeavour, however I might suggest you consider why there don't appear to be any other Citizen CONCORD corps currently operating in high sec. It might also pay to track down members of previous anti-pirate/griefer corps to see how they got on in the past.
I would also suggest limiting communication with CODE members in all forums to avoid providing fodder for the minerbumping site. And of course watch out for spies who will no doubt rally enthusiastically to your cause but can usually be identified by their earnestness and willingness to help you manage your corp assets.
As an anarchist, you have my support in toppling James 315 the Terror of Highsec. Hopefully your project will survive until I return from holidays.
Wishing you well
TA |
Lady Areola Fappington
2445
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Posted - 2014.12.28 16:02:48 -
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Best of luck with your war, OP! Many have tried, and very few have succeeded.
For the style of warfare you're plotting, you really need to bone up on your storytelling though. You've got to grab the attention of your audience early, and hang on to it with interesting content. Be approachable, interesting, and personable.
That's the reason James slices chatlogs up into manageable chunks. Ain't nobody got time to read a pastebin chatlog, so you gotta be good at sniffing out the most entertaining bits to present to your audience. Classy humor also helps out a BUNCH.
It isn't really hard, but I think there are customers that you can lose in a good way and there's customers that you can lose in a bad way. If people come in and fundamentally don't like EVE Online, then I think that might be a good way of losing customers. . -á--CCP Soundwave
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
1016
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Posted - 2014.12.28 16:22:23 -
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The Code always wins.
1. Any form of direct counter-action will be labeled "tears", "rage", etc. which they will count as a victory. The Code wins. 2. Discrediting any of their leadership will simply result in a new Code adherent taking up the banner, citing how the discredited members had strayed from The Code. The Code wins. 3. Denying Code pilots targets through smart piloting means that players are playing the game intelligently and at-keyboard, which is the stated purpose of the Law of Hisec. The Code wins. 4. Doing nothing means Code pilots just keep ganking. The Code wins.
There is literally no way to defeat them. At best, you can try to intervene and save their targets or take shots at gank ships in progress, but neither of those qualifies as a defeat to Code adherents even if successful. It's the classic no-lose scenario. A masterful move on the part of James315 and CODE. leadership.
CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking.
Reading Comprehension: so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content.
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Lady Areola Fappington
2445
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Posted - 2014.12.28 16:44:15 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:The Code always wins.
1. Any form of direct counter-action will be labeled "tears", "rage", etc. which they will count as a victory. The Code wins. 2. Discrediting any of their leadership will simply result in a new Code adherent taking up the banner, citing how the discredited members had strayed from The Code. The Code wins. 3. Denying Code pilots targets through smart piloting means that players are playing the game intelligently and at-keyboard, which is the stated purpose of the Law of Hisec. The Code wins. 4. Doing nothing means Code pilots just keep ganking. The Code wins.
There is literally no way to defeat them. At best, you can try to intervene and save their targets or take shots at gank ships in progress, but neither of those qualifies as a defeat to Code adherents even if successful. It's the classic no-lose scenario. A masterful move on the part of James315 and CODE. leadership.
You missed the most important one, Mr. Bronson.
No matter what you do, Code pilots will continue having fun playing EVE. The Code wins.
It isn't really hard, but I think there are customers that you can lose in a good way and there's customers that you can lose in a bad way. If people come in and fundamentally don't like EVE Online, then I think that might be a good way of losing customers. . -á--CCP Soundwave
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Sharise Dragonstar
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
23
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Posted - 2014.12.28 18:53:29 -
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You beat the code by ignoring them. Don't acknowledge there existence, don't interact with them. Hi-sec is big enough to avoid them. If they move to your system just move out, every system has asteroid fields. If everyone ignored them they would not get the publicity nor the tears they are looking for. They are abusing game mechanics to cause as much grief as possible. |
ForTheEmpire2014
Shoot The Messenger
40
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Posted - 2014.12.28 19:09:56 -
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Sharise Dragonstar wrote:You beat the code by ignoring them. Don't acknowledge there existence, don't interact with them. Hi-sec is big enough to avoid them. If they move to your system just move out, every system has asteroid fields. If everyone ignored them they would not get the publicity nor the tears they are looking for. They are abusing game mechanics to cause as much grief as possible.
^^ This. And stop reading MB while you're at it. Go create your own content, you will be much more satisfied.
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Tear Jar
New Order Logistics CODE.
257
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Posted - 2014.12.28 19:40:34 -
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Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:The best way to curtail the activities of gankers is to teach their lazy and entitled prey that they need to
- Be at the keyboard
- Tank their ships
- Not go afk in space unless cloaked (grr afk cloaking )
- Not to act like small children who rage incoherently and inappropriately when their toys are taken away explosively
- Realise that highsec is not safe, it is merely safer than some other parts of the game
- Know that Concord are reactive not proactive
- Acknowledge that they, and they alone, are responsible for their own safety
- Accept that the people who prey on them are playing the game in a way that doesn't violate the rules as they currently stand
- Use Dscan and the rest of the tools that are available to everybody to protect themselves from those that would like to see them explode
If what you say is true then Code is its own worst enemy! Nobody spends more time emphasizing these points than us. |
Leto Thule
Obsidian Cadre
1797
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Posted - 2014.12.28 20:06:58 -
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Sharise Dragonstar wrote:You beat the code by ignoring them. Don't acknowledge there existence, don't interact with them. Hi-sec is big enough to avoid them. If they move to your system just move out, every system has asteroid fields. If everyone ignored them they would not get the publicity nor the tears they are looking for. They are abusing game mechanics to cause as much grief as possible.
If they move in, move out?
Wow. That sounds fun.
Abusing game mechanics would be stopped by CCP. But since its working as intended, no need to worry.
Big Fat Forum Meanie and Thanatos Scammer
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
626
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Posted - 2014.12.28 20:26:36 -
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Sharise Dragonstar wrote:You beat the code by ignoring them. Don't acknowledge there existence, don't interact with them. Hi-sec is big enough to avoid them. If they move to your system just move out, every system has asteroid fields. If everyone ignored them they would not get the publicity nor the tears they are looking for. They are abusing game mechanics to cause as much grief as possible. What should it be now? Running away from us or ignoring us? Can't have both.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
105
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Posted - 2014.12.28 20:28:40 -
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Sharise Dragonstar wrote:They are abusing leveraging game mechanics to cause as much grief mayhem as possible. FTFY
CONCORD would like to remind you that the only thing under their protection is the doughnut shop found on level 2 of the food-mall in every station. ~ planto meus dies punk ~
NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
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Mag's
the united
18389
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Posted - 2014.12.28 20:31:46 -
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Sharise Dragonstar wrote:They are abusing game mechanics to cause as much grief as possible. How exactly are they abusing game mechanics?
**Destination SkillQueue:- **
It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
626
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Posted - 2014.12.28 20:31:48 -
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I am looking forward to OPs rebellion, like I looked forward to all the past rebellions that where announced. Actually I am still looking forward to most of the rebellions which where announced in the past, because I probably completely missed them, nothing happened at all or they will start some day in the future, no one knows.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Dar'Nalaa
GankBears
6
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Posted - 2014.12.28 21:09:25 -
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John E Normus wrote:Dear Rebel Leader #276,
gf
John
Thank you for your kind words,
one thing, what's the numbers for after my new name, just like to know all the facts
Thanking you in advance
Dar'Nalaa |
Sequester Risalo
Significant Others
37
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Posted - 2014.12.28 21:10:13 -
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Tear Jar wrote:Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:The best way to curtail the activities of gankers is to teach their lazy and entitled prey that they need to
- Be at the keyboard
- Tank their ships
- Not go afk in space unless cloaked (grr afk cloaking )
- Not to act like small children who rage incoherently and inappropriately when their toys are taken away explosively
- Realise that highsec is not safe, it is merely safer than some other parts of the game
- Know that Concord are reactive not proactive
- Acknowledge that they, and they alone, are responsible for their own safety
- Accept that the people who prey on them are playing the game in a way that doesn't violate the rules as they currently stand
- Use Dscan and the rest of the tools that are available to everybody to protect themselves from those that would like to see them explode
If what you say is true then Code is its own worst enemy! Nobody spends more time emphasizing these points than us.
You forget to mention that once the miners do so there are threads about how skiffs need to be nerfed because they are OP and the 'legitimate playstyle' of single ganker is not viable against them.
I would expect a 'gf' in local and a wave instead of these tears. |
Hiasa Kite
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
108
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Posted - 2014.12.28 21:20:56 -
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Dar'Nalaa wrote:one thing, what's the numbers for after my new name, just like to know all the facts You are the 276th person to announce themselves as a rebel leader against the New Order.
Anslo was one of the first. In fact, he tried to harvest CODE tears too. Nothing really seemed to come of it.
While we're strolling down memory lane, anyone remember this mining Apoc that "MINES WELL". Oh, carebears, you do give me lols.
People to vote for CSM X(in order): Sabriz Adoudel, Steve Ronuken, Manfred Sideous, Mike Azariah, Gorski Car
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Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
106
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Posted - 2014.12.28 21:22:15 -
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Sequester Risalo wrote:Tear Jar wrote:If what you say is true then Code is its own worst enemy! Nobody spends more time emphasizing these points than us. You forget to mention that once the miners do so there are threads about how skiffs need to be nerfed because they are OP and the 'legitimate playstyle' of single ganker is not viable against them. I would expect a 'gf' in local and a wave instead of these tears. If the majority of miners actually paid attention and took steps to prevent their own demise I think that most CODE. members and their associates would count that as mission accomplished, only a small minority would whine about the Skiff (<3) and it's ability to tank like a mofo.
CONCORD would like to remind you that the only thing under their protection is the doughnut shop found on level 2 of the food-mall in every station. ~ planto meus dies punk ~
NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
407
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Posted - 2014.12.28 22:53:38 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:The Code always wins.
1. Any form of direct counter-action will be labeled "tears", "rage", etc. which they will count as a victory. The Code wins. 2. Discrediting any of their leadership will simply result in a new Code adherent taking up the banner, citing how the discredited members had strayed from The Code. The Code wins. 3. Denying Code pilots targets through smart piloting means that players are playing the game intelligently and at-keyboard, which is the stated purpose of the Law of Hisec. The Code wins. 4. Doing nothing means Code pilots just keep ganking. The Code wins.
There is literally no way to defeat them. At best, you can try to intervene and save their targets or take shots at gank ships in progress, but neither of those qualifies as a defeat to Code adherents even if successful. It's the classic no-lose scenario. A masterful move on the part of James315 and CODE. leadership.
Nah...easy to beat them...just keep on doing your PvE activities in complete safety in highsec while minting isk and rubbing it in their faces. Call out their RL harassment, bonus rooms, AT forfeit, and unhinged leadership. As much as they claim to not care this absolutely infuriates them, as can be seen from the grr Veers rage. "Winning" against CODE is trivially easy...they don't even pose real competition. |
Zepher Helen Hawat
ULTRAMAR SECURITIES
26
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Posted - 2014.12.28 23:00:18 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Nah...easy to beat them...just keep on doing your PvE activities in complete safety in highsec while minting isk and rubbing it in their faces. Call out their RL harassment, bonus rooms, AT forfeit, and unhinged leadership. As much as they claim to not care this absolutely infuriates them, as can be seen from the grr Veers rage. "Winning" against CODE is trivially easy...they don't even pose real competition.
Just curious to your hat size... must be HUGE!
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
407
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Posted - 2014.12.28 23:02:34 -
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Zepher Helen Hawat wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Nah...easy to beat them...just keep on doing your PvE activities in complete safety in highsec while minting isk and rubbing it in their faces. Call out their RL harassment, bonus rooms, AT forfeit, and unhinged leadership. As much as they claim to not care this absolutely infuriates them, as can be seen from the grr Veers rage. "Winning" against CODE is trivially easy...they don't even pose real competition. Just curious to your hat size... must be HUGE!
7&1/8 |
Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
113
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Posted - 2014.12.28 23:12:04 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Zepher Helen Hawat wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Nah...easy to beat them...just keep on doing your PvE activities in complete safety in highsec while minting isk and rubbing it in their faces. Call out their RL harassment, bonus rooms, AT forfeit, and unhinged leadership. As much as they claim to not care this absolutely infuriates them, as can be seen from the grr Veers rage. "Winning" against CODE is trivially easy...they don't even pose real competition. Just curious to your hat size... must be HUGE! 7&1/8 whoosh.....
CONCORD would like to remind you that the only thing under their protection is the doughnut shop found on level 2 of the food-mall in every station. ~ planto meus dies punk ~
NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
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Cannibal Kane
Blood Raiders Elite
4581
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Posted - 2014.12.28 23:57:01 -
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I doubt anything will happen.
It has been a while since a corp with members actually tried anything. I am always ready to assist in making them just another story on Minerbumping. Just like all the others.
"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
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Tasspool Harp
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2014.12.29 00:35:19 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:I doubt anything will happen.
It has been a while since a corp with members actually tried anything. I am always ready to assist in making them just another story on Minerbumping. Just like all the others.
Aww. C'mon man. Give content a chance a chance to flourish at least briefly rather than being so quick to nip it in the bud. |
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