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Cedric Mactavish
Shiva Hara
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Posted - 2014.12.28 21:01:18 -
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When Rhea arrived with the advertised freeing up of toon names from un-converted trial accounts, I expected my (6000+ name) local chat block list to shrink. It did not, as far as I can tell.
Does that mean that, if a new toon were to adopt one of the purged names, that they will now be blocked in local chat even though they are not the same player?
(Apologies if this has been answered before, but forum search is returning an error every time I use it...) |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
28926
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Posted - 2014.12.28 21:06:44 -
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ooh cool question
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.28 21:07:12 -
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He who paints with the widest brush risks going over the lines.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.28 21:09:04 -
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That's actually a fairly good question.
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Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
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Posted - 2014.12.28 21:09:23 -
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Who has a 6000+ block list? wtfmmo? |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.28 21:11:17 -
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hah that's easy. someone who plays
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Cedric Mactavish
Shiva Hara
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Posted - 2014.12.28 21:20:29 -
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Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:Who has a 6000+ block list? wtfmmo?
This is a Jita station trader toon who is easily bored |
Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.28 21:23:18 -
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Rain6637 wrote:hah that's easy. someone who plays My block lists have always been, and will always be, completely empty. Except for times when I have to temporary block some exceedingly obnoxious people, but that doesn't last.
I just don't pay any attention to local when I'm in trade hubs or fleet fights. Don't see the need to block people.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
28926
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Posted - 2014.12.28 21:23:42 -
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this takes me back to when ISK sellers (RMT) were rampant in locals everywhere.
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Zedutchman
Freakingz
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Posted - 2014.12.28 21:35:08 -
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Doubtful.....
I have no proof. But I do know a thing or two about databases, I imagine how the "Block" list works is that when a User searches a name and then Blocks that "Player". The game is merely using the "Name" as a search tool.
A name isn't a player. It's merely an attribute of a player.
A "Player" is just a line in a database, however in a database a particular line is defined by a primary Key, which is generally just a string of random numbers and letters. And then the attributes of that Player are then stored as separate pieces of data on the same line.
Key Name Date Created
84R5H4654 ZeDutchman 1/1/2006
So CCP went in a Did an update on the player table and blew up all the old names, however those chars still exist they just don't have a name.
Key Name Date Created
84R5H4654 .......... 1/1/2006
If someone else picks an old name, it will just be bound to a new player and a new primary key and wont effect the old player at all.
If an old player re-subs however and makes a new name, they will still be blocked.
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Noddy Comet
Lysdexic Agnostics - Thier is no Dog
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Posted - 2014.12.28 21:46:57 -
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Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:Who has a 6000+ block list? wtfmmo?
Has "Jita" in their Corp name... doesn't know about Jita spam.
Cute.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.12.28 22:09:19 -
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I have taken the liberty of relaying this question to CCP, as I do not know the definite answer myself. Keep in mind though that I can not say if and/or when a reply will be given.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.12.28 22:11:12 -
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The only time u ever blocked someone was when I accidentally did it to my alt. |
Arisidana
Amadari Traders
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Posted - 2014.12.28 22:56:02 -
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As I understand it, you block a character, not a name and since no character has been deleted in the purge, nothing will change to your block list.
CCP only changed the character names to some generic (Caldari Citizen number) to free up the names. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2014.12.28 23:09:27 -
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Block list, almost certainly, will work on character ID, rather than character name.
It's a lot faster to compare numbers, than it is to compare strings (which is what a name is, in computer terms)
It's also a lot smaller. 64 bit numbers are 8 bytes. That's, at best, 8 letters. (Due to non-english characters, it can be significantly less. UTF-8 can use 4 bytes for a single letter (character, but that's just asking for someone to misunderstand.)
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.28 23:24:06 -
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I'd wager one byte per letter, since you can't have any non-ASCII characters in names (and most ASCII punctuation characters are also forbidden).
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
843
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Posted - 2014.12.28 23:36:17 -
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Noddy Comet wrote:Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:Who has a 6000+ block list? wtfmmo? Has "Jita" in their Corp name... doesn't know about Jita spam. Cute.
but jita local is fun, I even enjoy all the scams
I'll join the chorus asking CCP, don't take my fancy names away from me!
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
28928
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Posted - 2014.12.28 23:42:38 -
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nerf trial accounts!
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2014.12.29 00:04:28 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:I'd wager one byte per letter, since you can't have any non-ASCII characters in names (and most ASCII punctuation characters are also forbidden).
Could have sworn I'd seen some Russian in names. I'm probably misremembering.
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2014.12.29 00:44:35 -
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When a character is blocked, they're blocked by characterID.
For instance, if you were to block CCP Falcon, you wouldn't be blocking "CCP Falcon" you'd be blocking the characterID "92532650".
If I changed my name to CCP Rook (which I would never do, because Rooks are poopy and completely inferior), then I'd still be blocked. Character name doesn't matter.
Just the same as if we change someone's character name because it's offensive, they'll still remain in your contact list under their new character name.
Hope this helps.
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Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2014.12.29 01:16:08 -
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So, basically, no, the new people adopting old names won't be blocked.
But, soon, you'll go crazy wondering why you have "xxx" blocked yet can see "xxx" spamming in local.
Or, even better, you'll add "xxx" to your block list again and get some sort of error, like "Unable to block "xxx" because he's already blocked." Or the client crashes or something. |
Cedric Mactavish
Shiva Hara
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Posted - 2014.12.29 01:18:54 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:When a character is blocked, they're blocked by characterID. For instance, if you were to block CCP Falcon, you wouldn't be blocking "CCP Falcon" you'd be blocking the characterID "92532650". If I changed my name to CCP Rook (which I would never do, because Rooks are poopy and completely inferior), then I'd still be blocked. Character name doesn't matter. Just the same as if we change someone's character name because it's offensive, they'll still remain in your contact list under their new character name. Hope this helps.
Yes, it does. I had originally assumed you had deleted the characters with the stale trial accounts; in fact, you had merely done what was advertised - freed up their names. |
Xen Solarus
S0utherN Comfort DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2014.12.29 01:37:28 -
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In that case, surely the better quesiton would be, if someone on my block list (character ID) ceases to exist, are they automatically removed from the list?
Not that it matters of course, but I'm a sucker for neatness.
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
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Posted - 2014.12.29 01:39:01 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:When a character is blocked, they're blocked by characterID. For instance, if you were to block CCP Falcon, you wouldn't be blocking "CCP Falcon" you'd be blocking the characterID "92532650". If I changed my name to CCP Rook (which I would never do, because Rooks are poopy and completely inferior), then I'd still be blocked. Character name doesn't matter. Just the same as if we change someone's character name because it's offensive, they'll still remain in your contact list under their new character name. Hope this helps.
So if you create a new character and it uses one of the wiped names, it wouldn't get blocked? Because the new char has a new ID that's just using an old name?
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Arisidana
Amadari Traders
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Posted - 2014.12.29 02:27:27 -
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Xen Solarus wrote:In that case, surely the better quesiton would be, if someone on my block list (character ID) ceases to exist, are they automatically removed from the list?
Not that it matters of course, but I'm a sucker for neatness.
As long as the character ID is still intact even as a member of Doomheim it should be still in your block list, only when the name is picked up by a new player ( getting new character ID) it should disappear from your block list.
One of my biomassed characters is still there, hasn't been picked up in almost 2 years. |
Arisidana
Amadari Traders
56
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Posted - 2014.12.29 02:31:27 -
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Jandice Ymladris wrote:So if you create a new character and it uses one of the wiped names, it wouldn't get blocked? Because the new char has a new ID that's just using an old name?
correct |
J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2014.12.29 03:36:53 -
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Now all we need is a GM to confirm and complete the nice chevron list om top of the thread....
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Serene Repose
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Posted - 2014.12.29 06:57:04 -
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Ahar. With that view of rooks, I wouldn't mind pasting you in a couple of chess games.
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2014.12.29 12:28:32 -
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Has any of the old names been freed up yet? The name I intend to re-use still seems to exist in game
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2014.12.29 12:52:17 -
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Dominique Vasilkovsky wrote:Has any of the old names been freed up yet? The name I intend to re-use still seems to exist in game
All names for trial accounts (only trials) which are over a year old have been released.
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