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welsh-king Tokila
Kings of the Void
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Posted - 2014.12.29 20:32:50 -
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Hi,
Playing with my brother today who has reactivated his account and I noticed that he is flying an Apocalypse but only has Amarr Battle Cruiser lvl 2 and not lvl 3 which is needed to fly the ship? He has Amarr battleship trained to lvl 1 but not BC to lvl 3.
Should that be possible?
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2014.12.29 20:35:40 -
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It's fine if he's an older character.
What's not fine is ratting out your brother. That's so not cool.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Foxicity
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.29 20:36:02 -
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Sometimes a patch release changes the pre-requisites for a skill. People are allowed to keep their skill even if the pre-requisites change and they no longer qualify for it. For example, I trained Command Ships before, um... Phoebe? and when the pre-reqs changed to require Level 5 of all of the Leadership skills, I am still able to fly Command Ships.
Also, hope he's not doing anything risky in that battleship. Bigger is not necessarily better, especially if you don't have the trained skills to back it up. |
Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2014.12.29 20:41:30 -
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CCP changed some ship prerequisites about a year ago, so yeah it's possible that if your friend hasn't played in a long time, he can find himself flying a ship that he doesn't meet the new prerequisites for. CCP made the change but said they would let people fly the ships they could before.
I'd recommend that your friend train the battlecruiser skill whenever possible, then it really won't be an issue. Right now, he may not be able to fly another battleship if he gets out of that one. I'm not sure. |
welsh-king Tokila
Kings of the Void
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Posted - 2014.12.29 20:41:33 -
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Im on skype with him we were concerned that it might mess something up more than ratting him out haha
Thank you for the responses :) |
Serene Repose
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Posted - 2014.12.29 20:46:12 -
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okay okay - your "friend"? or - your "brother"? I've got four brothers. Sorta hard to confuse the two.
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Xercodo
Vector Galactic Did he say Jump
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Posted - 2014.12.29 20:57:36 -
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Only the first three here are required: http://eve.beyondreality.se/pics/ShipPrereqs.gif
The Drake is a Lie
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Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2014.12.30 04:31:21 -
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welsh-king Tokila wrote:Hi,
Playing with my brother today who has reactivated his account and I noticed that he is flying an Apocalypse but only has Amarr Battle Cruiser lvl 2 and not lvl 3 which is needed to fly the ship? He has Amarr battleship trained to lvl 1 but not BC to lvl 3.
Should that be possible?
Remember back when CCP changed skill pre-reqs and promised us "if you could fly it before, you can fly it after"?
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...
[#savethelance]
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Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.12.30 07:06:34 -
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Assuming your friend/brother is on an older account and could fly an Amarr BS before the skills changed then he's got "grandfather" rights.
CONCORD would like to remind you that the only thing under their protection is the doughnut shop found on level 2 of the food-mall in every station. ~ planto meus dies punk ~
NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
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corebloodbrothers
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2014.12.30 08:42:49 -
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Train it next , if he can fly it he can fly it
If he can board any ship in eve, gimme a call |
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.30 09:15:50 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:he can find himself flying a ship that he doesn't meet the new prerequisites for. But he does meet the new prerequisites for the ship.
The ship prerequisites are all of the HIGHLIGHTED skills in the prerequisites tab. The indented skills below them are the prerequisites to those skills, the doubly-indented skills below those are the prerequisites of the indented skills, etc.
Let's take, for example, the Zealot.
Amarr Cruiser V - Spaceship Command II - Amarr Destroyer III - - Amarr Frigate III - - - Spaceship Command I Heavy Assault Cruisers I - Energy Grid Upgrades V - - Power Grid Management II - - Science I - Weapon Upgrades V - - Gunnery II - Spaceship Command V - Capacitor Management IV - - Power Grid Management III
The only skill prerequisites for the Zealot are Amarr Cruiser V and Heavy Assault Cruisers I. None of those other skills are prerequisites for the ship.
The point really is that CCP hasn't changed the skill prerequisites for any ship, with the minor exception of navy faction battleships which had their skill requirement increased from level 1 to 2, which left some people unable to fly their battleships unless they completed a few more hours of training. Which they should have done anyway, because flying a battleship at level 1 of the skill is dumb, especially a faction battleship.
Alt of [redacted on advice from a reputable internet spaceships lawyer]
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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
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Posted - 2014.12.30 10:43:05 -
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Serene Repose wrote:okay okay - your "friend"? or - your "brother"? I've got four brothers. Sorta hard to confuse the two.
Maybe by brother he means bruhtha.
And yeah, OP, it's because of requirement changes. I can fly Command Ships even though I don't have the required leadership skills because I trained Command Ships to 1 before they added the leadership skills into the requirements. Skill requirements are more like requirements to inject the skill rather than requirements to fly the ship. So if you've already injected the skill... then the game doesn't care about the requirements anymore if they happen to change.
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