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Haywoud Jablomi
The Circus Corp Alternate Allegiance
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Posted - 2015.01.03 14:22:30 -
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Posting With Alt wrote:Haywoud Jablomi wrote: Hi Sec gankers are pretty cowardly.
The problem here is you're confusing bravery with stupidity. Why in the world would you assume a single Catalyst or Thrasher is going to try to rough up a Procurer or a Skiff in the first place? In fact by sacrificing yield for tank you are only glorifying the New Order and furthering its mission for a smarter Highsec. CODE wins if they gank your barge. CODE wins if they force you to fly Procurers and Skiffs. If you haven't figured it out yet: the CODE always wins. The only way to be a winner yourself is to purchase a Mining Permit.
LOL what??? *facepalms*
Procurer/Skiff have a pretty solid yield. It's on par with the Mac |
Milan Nantucket
New Eden Misfits
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Posted - 2015.01.03 15:08:17 -
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Naturalcause Lemon wrote:Thats the thing. I understand ganking experienced players who know better and know alot about this game but im pretty new. I mean, ive had this account for a few years, but ive only ever played for like 3 months. After they killed my ship, I have nothing.... I have like an ibis 10 jumps away but thats it... I had a mackinaw.... Sounds like a little pre-planning could have saved you some time.
When all you have is an ibis here is what you do.
Goto you closest starter system and run the tutorials again. You get some free stuff.
Once that is done goto Arnon and run the SOE Arc... that will give you enough for a Venture..
Start mining and do what they suggested above.
Eventually you will save enough to get a new exhumer or barge.
Oh and buy a mining permit. |
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.01.03 16:32:54 -
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
667
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Posted - 2015.01.03 17:08:53 -
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Haywoud Jablomi wrote:CODE is a lot of fun to mess with.
Get a Skiff or Procurer. Tank it nicely, get some ECM drones. Single destroyer wont take you out before Concord wrecks their day.
Hi Sec gankers are pretty cowardly. If you even look like you are going to put up a fight, they will leave you alone. It's always funny if Highsec miners point at others and describe them as cowards. I am sure your choice of a Procurer instead of a Hulk has nothing to do with how scared you are of the gankers and we all know that Highsec miners don't care about yield.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Serene Repose
1992
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Posted - 2015.01.03 17:10:08 -
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The great digital god in the ethernet told me to tell you guys to KILL this thread. It's an outrageous waste of bandwidth.
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Super Perforator
New Order Logistics CODE.
23
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Posted - 2015.01.03 18:58:15 -
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Aischa Montagne wrote: BTW I am not sure about 1.0 System, it maybe that this system because they are starting systems, ganking maybe sanctioned by higher authorities. As a beginner I would try a petition in this systems. (I think it is fruitless elsewere)
1.0 systems are not, per se, Rookie Systems.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Rookie_Systems
There you can get into trouble if you are not extremely careful. Any "beginner" outside the rookie systems should know what they are getting into.
Aischa Montagne wrote: Beware that not all Gankers are part of CODE. There are some not flying the ganking color right away. I recommend to start chatting with other miners in the system. They can share the information who to look out for.
In my experience, talking to other miners is tough. The majority of them are AFK, or not interested in socialising. The clanging silence of local is one thing that moved me in this direction. I'm not a fan of talking to myself.
Stress? Just cool it... CODE. Diplo.
Praise James!
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Super Perforator
New Order Logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2015.01.03 19:09:43 -
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Daniel Jackson wrote:(even if you buy a permit from them they will still blow you up) cause its a scam
If any permit holder was ganked by a CODE. member, whilst flying in a Code compliant fashion, feel free to contact me by EVEmail (or one of the New Order diplos) in order to talk about reimbursement for the losses. Be sure to include the Killmail in the text of the mail.
Stress? Just cool it... CODE. Diplo.
Praise James!
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Haywoud Jablomi
The Circus Corp Alternate Allegiance
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Posted - 2015.01.03 20:55:40 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Haywoud Jablomi wrote:CODE is a lot of fun to mess with.
Get a Skiff or Procurer. Tank it nicely, get some ECM drones. Single destroyer wont take you out before Concord wrecks their day.
Hi Sec gankers are pretty cowardly. If you even look like you are going to put up a fight, they will leave you alone. It's always funny if Highsec miners point at others and describe them as cowards. I am sure your choice of a Procurer instead of a Hulk has nothing to do with how scared you are of the gankers and we all know that Highsec miners don't care about yield.
Well I happen to live in Null and I find CODE's tactics silly and yea it's a bit cowardly. Doesn't mean its not fun but its hardly a high skilled task. |
Super Perforator
New Order Logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2015.01.03 21:29:36 -
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Haywoud Jablomi wrote: Well I happen to live in Null and I find CODE's tactics silly and yea it's a bit cowardly. Doesn't mean its not fun but its hardly a high skilled task.
Try it and see.
Stress? Just cool it... CODE. Diplo.
Praise James!
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Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
449
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Posted - 2015.01.03 23:42:53 -
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Super Perforator wrote:...whilst.... That sounds so growed up, I got misty reading it. CODE - "whilst" OOooooh, it gives me goosebumps@
Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.
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Asura Vajrarupa
Anarchist Industrial Syndicate of Metropolis
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Posted - 2015.01.04 01:57:31 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Haywoud Jablomi wrote:CODE is a lot of fun to mess with.
Get a Skiff or Procurer. Tank it nicely, get some ECM drones. Single destroyer wont take you out before Concord wrecks their day.
Hi Sec gankers are pretty cowardly. If you even look like you are going to put up a fight, they will leave you alone. It's always funny if Highsec miners point at others and describe them as cowards. I am sure your choice of a Procurer instead of a Hulk has nothing to do with how scared you are of the gankers and we all know that Highsec miners don't care about yield.
Hulk's aren't an efficient way to get the job done if you're not in a group. But I guess a lot of people still get fooled by the old mining guides and that third laser.
Ignorance is the cause of suffering.
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Asura Vajrarupa
Anarchist Industrial Syndicate of Metropolis
21
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Posted - 2015.01.04 01:58:20 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote:Asura Vajrarupa wrote:Honestly kids the only thing I did when I started seeing people in my area ganking with catalysts was to buy a catalyst BPO and start my science alt on researching it up. I plan to be in full production swing before the FOTM for ganking changes. You're behind the ball my friend, real men don't fly cats anymore. Isn't that right John? E: Mind if I steal that "You wouldn't steal a" bit? It made me laugh.
Its all good, destroyer BPO's are cheap, and my alt has nothing better to do.
Ignorance is the cause of suffering.
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Shin Katsumoto
The Zetetic Elench Tungsten Dominion
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Posted - 2015.01.04 02:43:01 -
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I dont get it, why are they doing this? For ***** and giggles? |
Vapor Ventrillian
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.04 02:48:13 -
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The CODE. represent a telling moment of eve history but like a ganker alliances they will fail...and I will explain
the thing that will destroy them is...internal politics and isk paranoia... it is always the way
Ganker alliances draw fairly chilled independent players that shoot stuff and don't take this game too seriously....then the isk rolls in and their successes begin to pile up.
When this happens in real life,people change, and when their is serious isk/money to be made, A ecosystem of paranoia become will become apparent.
This draws a type of ganker that is not really that charismatic and basically want to make the system official so they can feed their god complex this irritates the original founder who has had to avoid these people most of his/her life and they will back away in some form ...this has already happened
The Godlings within the code have been pissing off their chilled F.Cs simply by making demands, and too a group of space anarchists ..this is a bad idea
the originaly chilled player base mentioned above has little to no tolerance for political player because simply they are a buzz kill and will simply disappear to the next nest option removing the funny chill atmosphere that code. needs to make them the more attractive gank option for roams
-it does not require a attack on their assets this would only serve to unify them and has done so -character assassination is unnecessary because most of them conceal their real toon in order to just troll others game play and their gank toon are beyond recovery. -marmite and other forces connected to the white knight initiative have been unsuccessful in their elimination of them for the first reason stated above
Code. could recover but it would require a substantial rebellion among its lower players to knock out the corrupt head
But unless this happens, code. will fall and another will take its place this is the way in R.L as it is the way of EVE
o7 Vapor
The Evil Overlord of Scope, self elected as all good overlords should be
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2015.01.04 04:58:07 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Haywoud Jablomi wrote:CODE is a lot of fun to mess with.
Get a Skiff or Procurer. Tank it nicely, get some ECM drones. Single destroyer wont take you out before Concord wrecks their day.
Hi Sec gankers are pretty cowardly. If you even look like you are going to put up a fight, they will leave you alone. It's always funny if Highsec miners point at others and describe them as cowards. I am sure your choice of a Procurer instead of a Hulk has nothing to do with how scared you are of the gankers and we all know that Highsec miners don't care about yield.
Actually, Hulk currently is an expensive and labor intensive bad choice for high sec regardless of CODE or not.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
1956
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Posted - 2015.01.04 05:55:34 -
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If I was a miner I'd want for the dedicated group of suicide gankers to not want to gank me. I'd adhere to the new Halaima code of Conduct.
That said, the only reason I can ever fit mining lasers is because mining is a default skill these days or something. |
JackknifedII
The Congregation
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Posted - 2015.01.04 11:30:36 -
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Back when I was involved in a mining corp, we used to make sure all members mined in belts as far away from the warp in point as possible just to give a little extra time to get out in case of any 'funny business'. Did so by making bookmarks for mining spots in belts before warping the barges to them.
IDK if that is useful information for you, but there it is.
Minmatar....we are generally unpleasant to be around....
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
164
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Posted - 2015.01.04 11:54:41 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:It's always funny if Highsec miners point at others and describe them as cowards. If miners point at codies, the miners are right.
Ima Wreckyou wrote:I I am sure your choice of a Procurer instead of a Hulk has nothing to do with how scared you are of the gankers and we all know that Highsec miners don't care about yield. Yawn.
Using an umbrella when it might rain doesnt make me scared of rain.
Vimsy Vortis wrote:If I was a miner I'd want for the dedicated group of suicide gankers to not want to gank me. I'd adhere to the new Halaima code of Conduct.
That said, the only reason I can ever fit mining lasers is because mining is a default skill these days or something. Well miners who are not smart enough to use basic ag meassures , can adhere to this "halaima-stuff".
But thank you for letting us know what a though guy/girl you are.
Super Perforator wrote: In my experience, talking to other miners is tough. The majority of them are AFK, or not interested in socialising. The clanging silence of local is one thing that moved me in this direction. I'm not a fan of talking to myself.
More flawed logic. You put on your closes with a fork? One does not need to "socialise" with you guys. Or with those scammers at the trade systems. If you want talk to someone, talk to friends. Oh! You do not have friends? Sure its the others fault, not yours!
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.01.04 11:55:28 -
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Super Perforator wrote:Haywoud Jablomi wrote: Well I happen to live in Null and I find CODE's tactics silly and yea it's a bit cowardly. Doesn't mean its not fun but its hardly a high skilled task.
Try it and see.
Neutral cloaked warp to ship. Warp 10km away and blow them up. Not difficult at all.
... or maybe some people like doing the same thing over and over until they have audiotary hallucinations.
Vimsy Vortis wrote:If I was a miner I'd want for the dedicated group of suicide gankers to not want to gank me. I'd adhere to the new Halaima code of Conduct.
That said, the only reason I can ever fit mining lasers is because mining is a default skill these days or something.
If I was in hi-sec, I would just make warp off points and slow boat across belts mining. A huge nuisance but I would rather spite the fat kids.
CSM Ten movement for change.
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
164
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Posted - 2015.01.04 12:02:15 -
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Another Idea: Fly in a group. Have a friend with you that bumps away anything, that not belongs to your group. This will eliminate the "warpto" point and make ganking much harder. Of course the other ag points still apply.
Also you can anoy of your "competition" if you are mining good stuff.
As i said, i am not a "white knight".
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.04 12:10:20 -
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JackknifedII wrote:Back when I was involved in a mining corp, we used to make sure all members mined in belts as far away from the warp in point as possible just to give a little extra time to get out in case of any 'funny business'. Did so by making bookmarks for mining spots in belts before warping the barges to them.
IDK if that is useful information for you, but there it is.
Sorry, but no.
Basic tactic is using a scout ship, another mining alt. It might even mining right beside you, *that* will be the "warp to" point. codies have lots of alts, around 300 alts in corps but maybe around 100 ppl behind them. And *those* 300 are the offiical code members. For eg loyal-guys high kill rank is done always with friends and the help of at least one alt of him self MINUS the scout.
Best know loyal alts are "wolf soprano" and "sophia soprano".
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Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1950
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Posted - 2015.01.04 12:39:32 -
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No I don't but I don't think I mined since 2007 |
Z'kroooh Ouau
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.04 12:46:07 -
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Arisidana wrote:You should mine in lowsec, I heard Code is scared of lowsec. Gankers don't have balls to get into lowsec. |
Z'kroooh Ouau
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.04 12:51:29 -
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Shin Katsumoto wrote:I dont get it, why are they doing this? For ***** and giggles? Because that's the only thing that they are able to achieve in EVE and real life.
You know this type of person.
Slacker, no job, thinks that Che Guevara was a great person and sprays their **** on buss stops.
In other words: worthless scum. |
Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.01.04 12:57:11 -
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Wow. That'll sort them out.
You tell 'em, Z'kroooh.
Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!
Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
5602
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Posted - 2015.01.04 12:59:39 -
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Z'kroooh Ouau wrote:Shin Katsumoto wrote:I dont get it, why are they doing this? For ***** and giggles? Because that's the only thing that they are able to achieve in EVE and real life. You know this type of person. Slacker, no job, thinks that Che Guevara was a great person and sprays their **** on buss stops. In other words: worthless scum.
You know, you have just described large swathes of population!
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Noobshot Elongur
Order in the Void Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.04 13:34:12 -
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Naturalcause Lemon wrote:I got ganked today in a .7 zone and was told it is illegal for me to mine in high sec without a permit. (according to the new order on some mining bumping site). Plz give me honest answers on how i should continue my solo mining career. Am i really not safe mining anywhere?
No, if someone out there wants you bad enough they can find you. (See locator agents.) But there are steps you can take to mitigate the risk of getting ganked.
Bunch of ways to avoid this:
1) Put retards on a watch list that alert you when they logon and show up in local as bad guys.
2) Join a fleet of miners to get boosts. (I.E. don't solo mine if you don't have to.)
3) Find an industrial corporation that operates in low/null sec. Get better stuff out there anyways. Most of CODE/MARMITE dare not fly out there.
4) Get into a mining ship that has some tank to it so you can survive the gank attempt long enough for concord to show up. A skiff with descent shield and drone skills would be a plus. Tech 1 mining ships are basically eggshells with an engine and ore bay. Some people are crazy when it comes to ship fits too and go for mining yield when they are solo mining and should be going for survivability. Remember, you got to get the ore to the station to enjoy the benefits. Can't do that when your ship explodes.
5) If they do gank you, sell the kill right so everyone can have a chance of ganking them back.
6) Keep your ship aligned to a safe point in system. CONTROL+B is your friend for making safe points.
7) NEVER AFK/BOT MINE!!!!
That should help out. |
Shin Katsumoto
The Zetetic Elench Tungsten Dominion
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Posted - 2015.01.04 13:43:55 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Z'kroooh Ouau wrote:Shin Katsumoto wrote:I dont get it, why are they doing this? For ***** and giggles? Because that's the only thing that they are able to achieve in EVE and real life. You know this type of person. Slacker, no job, thinks that Che Guevara was a great person and sprays their **** on buss stops. In other words: worthless scum. You know, you have just described large swathes of population!
LOL
That does not make him automatically wrong though. What I mean though, is there any profit in these activities or do they do out out of sheer spite and/or self-entertainment? |
Sista Slade
Nano-Tech Experiments
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Posted - 2015.01.04 15:43:12 -
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Shin Katsumoto wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Z'kroooh Ouau wrote:Shin Katsumoto wrote:I dont get it, why are they doing this? For ***** and giggles? Because that's the only thing that they are able to achieve in EVE and real life. You know this type of person. Slacker, no job, thinks that Che Guevara was a great person and sprays their **** on buss stops. In other words: worthless scum. You know, you have just described large swathes of population! LOL That does not make him automatically wrong though. What I mean though, is there any profit in these activities or do they do out out of sheer spite and/or self-entertainment?
The only people that care about the hoarding of ISK and profit are the bot-aspirants in hi-sec, that fly anti-tanked ships in belts while watching YouTube.....Or eating.....Or going to the bathroom.....Or talking on the phone.....Or buttering the dog.
Those that follow and enforce the Code are rabidly against this type of gameplay. While there is some ISK to be made, the biggest profit by far is to show the carebear the error of his/her ways and gaining a friend in the process.
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Tear Jar
New Order Logistics CODE.
269
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Posted - 2015.01.04 16:26:44 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Please note that the above person believes that babies cry for no good reason.
Have you had kids? Babies do a ton of crying for no good reason. |
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