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Royals Indari
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2015.01.01 15:47:40 -
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Well I'm still on my trial and been doing PVP with my corp recently just looking for the best t1 ships where i can provide something. I cannot do t2 on my trial but am working towards it.
I've been using this but I have to be pretty close (1000m) and I'm still pretty bad at the game xD
[Incursus, PVP1] [Empty Low slot] 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Adaptive Nano Plating I Damage Control I
1MN Afterburner I Warp Disruptor I X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Limited Light Neutron Blaster I Limited Light Neutron Blaster I Limited Light Neutron Blaster I
Hobgoblin I x1
Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S x110
I'm willing to learn any skills needed to use the ships. Wanting to try alot of find what I like. I mostly do DUO to a small fleet (3-4) pvp. Not solo as I've never had the chance since i don't really know which ships are which yet.
I know I'm going to die, almost 90% of the time but if I can provide a little before I die that would be great. I'm working with around 30m isk not including my 60k LP. |
Tsukino Stareine
Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep
789
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Posted - 2015.01.01 16:53:03 -
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if you want to fly the incursus you might want to take a look at using an armour repairer since it's bonused for it.
The dual rep incursus is an extremely tanky ship but not sure if you will have the fitting skills for that. |
Royals Indari
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk
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Posted - 2015.01.01 17:04:36 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:if you want to fly the incursus you might want to take a look at using an armour repairer since it's bonused for it.
The dual rep incursus is an extremely tanky ship but not sure if you will have the fitting skills for that.
Well if you could show me a build I can check or build towards it, I'm working towards as much T2 as i can on the trial before I buy the game, holding out to see if i can make enough ISK for membership before i buy it with IRL. Only have like 70m atm though. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
8197
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Posted - 2015.01.01 17:31:28 -
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hers a standard t2 fit, downgrade to meta where you need
[Incursus, Incursus] Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Small Armor Repairer II Small Armor Repairer II
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Small Capacitor Booster II,Navy Cap Booster 150
Light Ion Blaster II,Void S Light Ion Blaster II,Void S Light Ion Blaster II,Void S
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.01 18:38:31 -
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hmm just a small link to pretty much the same theme |
Quanah Comanche
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.01 19:53:04 -
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Remember, common sense is the best build. I check bonuses and generally (not always) build around them. |
Tsukino Stareine
Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep
789
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Posted - 2015.01.02 03:01:27 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:hers a standard t2 fit, downgrade to meta where you need [Incursus, Incursus] Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Small Armor Repairer II Small Armor Repairer II Experimental 1MN Afterburner I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Small Capacitor Booster II,Navy Cap Booster 150 Light Ion Blaster II,Void S Light Ion Blaster II,Void S Light Ion Blaster II,Void S Small Anti-Explosive Pump I Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Edit: i reccomend against trying to plex your first month, it is possible but it is not fun and will ruin the game for you.
This is for pvp so one of the reppers should be a ancillary |
Doctor Knuckles
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
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Posted - 2015.01.02 10:58:16 -
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Dual rep incursus sucks balls. You don't have range control at all. You're not gonna kill any half decent pilot with it. Best you can hope for is not getting killed because taking one down 1v1 is such a drag and a waste of ammo someone might decide to say "**** it, let's go fight something fun" as soon as he realizes you're dual rep.
That, or you play the bait and put it in your job description. Depressing.
I suggest this.
[Incursus, Incursus Rail AAR 2] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II F85 Peripheral Damage System I Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Adaptive Nano Plating II
1MN Afterburner II X5 Prototype Engine Enervator J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
150mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S 150mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S 150mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I Small Processor Overclocking Unit I Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Hobgoblin II x1 Spike S x160 Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S x360 Nanite Repair Paste x16
This is an excellent scram kiter for low sec space. Keep at range 7.5 Kms, overheat guns and repper, and the AB as well untill you're in your safe zone. Start the repper once you're in low shields Fitting is pretty tight, so you might need to remove one auxialiary nano pump and use another processor rig, or downgrade AB.
Variations are possible with the rigs, anti explosive pump in place of a nano pump is a good idea if going against projectile/missile/rockets. Damage rig is also popular |
Vin Shiruda
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.03 21:40:09 -
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Doctor Knuckles wrote:Dual rep incursus sucks balls. You don't have range control at all. You're not gonna kill any half decent pilot with it. Best you can hope for is not getting killed because taking one down 1v1 is such a drag and a waste of ammo someone might decide to say "**** it, let's go fight something fun" as soon as he realizes you're dual rep.
Pretty much this. Range control in frigate pvp is extremely important, and the dual rep incursus (along with any other 2 mid AB frigate) has none. Rail Incursus is a solid scam kiter, and will teach you the important of range control, transversal, ammo types, and how to manage your armor repper efficiently.
Scram kiting frigs IMO require a good amount of skill to fly well and will teach you a lot about frigate pvp. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.01.03 22:15:26 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:This is for pvp so one of the reppers should be a ancillary Yeah, better in all aspects for PVP
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Tsukino Stareine
Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep
793
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Posted - 2015.01.04 01:41:04 -
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dual rep sucks in SOLO pvp
For fleet battles it's a monster heavy tackle as it tanks almost 300 dps (with drugs) and has good damage to boot along with small sig. |
Chad Wylder
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2015.01.04 03:38:25 -
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No clue how this ship will fly since I'm just Pyfa warrioring, but it looks fun. It's a fit for anyone to quickly be up and running in (only requires Afterburner I, Hull Upgrades I, Propulsion Jamming I, and Weapon Upgrades I, as well as the starter Gallente character skills for the ship and guns.) and hopefully still be effective as fast tackle. Tiny tank, but it's a small and fast target so hopefully works out.
Oh, and it's a hull tank. Which I'm pretty sure is how we want new players learning to tank their ships, right?
And one last thing, this and many of the fits that will be recommended may eventually be out of date due to module tiericide, so something to keep in mind. Not that this should stop you from buying lots of frigates and getting your ships exploded over and over.
[Atron, Noisy Cricket]
F85 Peripheral Damage System I Gauss Field Balancer I Fourier Transform Tracking Program
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I X5 Prototype Engine Enervator J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Limited Light Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S Limited Light Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S Limited Light Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S [Empty High slot]
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Small Transverse Bulkhead I Small Transverse Bulkhead I |
Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
308
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Posted - 2015.01.04 14:39:51 -
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T1 frigates are the place to experiment and learn, not spam other peoples' fits. Think of a tactic you want to employ, then build a ship that you think will accomplish that. Just spamming someone else's fit doesn't mean that it's A) any good or B) that you will be any good at flying it. The fastest kiter in the game won't do you any good if you can't stay out of scram/web range.
What is important is that you learn to fly a given ship well, and employ tactics that favor the ship and fitting. You need to know WHY you lost a fight, not just that you did. By developing your own fit, you will understand the strengths and weaknesses of a ship and the fundamentals of fitting. You will know that a loss happened because you were caught outside your intended engagement envelope, or if out-gunned, or just have a bad fit.
Once you have a fairly solid fit (you may still lose, but at least you held your own)- you will probably find it is close to the 'best' fit you are asking on the forums for. Arriving at that fit yourself will pay dividends in learning the game and it's mechanics that will improve your game overall. Too many players think of Eve like it's WoW, where there is always a 'best' build and the entire playerbase simply plays the exact same wizard/warrior/cleric as everyone else. In Eve, you can choose different tactics to employ, and make a build based on that. So the only true 'perfect' fit is the one that allows a player to employ the specific tactics he intends at the moment.
Look at a ship's bonuses and base stats. Those often indicate how the ship was intended to be fitted. Even then, don't be afraid to experiment some outside those bonuses. Try things like using dual prop fits. Or dual distruptor/scram tackle. Learn when fitting modules are acceptable and when it compromises your fit too much to be viable.
Doing that now, in cheap frigates will not only make Eve more interesting as you see the complexity and possibilities available in ship design- but you will be a better player for it as well. |
Tsukino Stareine
Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep
796
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Posted - 2015.01.04 14:56:11 -
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you still need a base to work from, for someone who has never pvped before, it's good to have a look at some other fits and try them out before trying to develop your own and learn from them. |
KnightMaire kings
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2015.01.04 23:06:01 -
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[Inquisitor, Inquisitor] Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II True Sansha Adaptive Nano Plating 200mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Centii A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer Centii A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer Centii A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Small Trimark Armor Pump II Small Trimark Armor Pump II Small Trimark Armor Pump II
is my standerd pvp frig may not be what you looking for ir costs as much as most t2 assalt frigs but make an awusm suport frig
The only major drawback is the crazed notion that the inventory would look so much better if merely rearranged ONE MORE TIME.
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Doctor Knuckles
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
71
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Posted - 2015.01.05 11:34:11 -
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Alaric Faelen wrote:T1 frigates are the place to experiment and learn, not spam other peoples' fits. .
Nothing wrong with having a platform to build upon. It will save quite a bunch of absolutely pointless fits, and skip the part where a newbro waits for someone kind enough to tell him upon reading the killmail that small shield extenders are not a thing |
Maeltstome
High Flyers The Kadeshi
627
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Posted - 2015.01.09 10:48:40 -
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Vin Shiruda wrote:Doctor Knuckles wrote:Dual rep incursus sucks balls. You don't have range control at all. You're not gonna kill any half decent pilot with it. Best you can hope for is not getting killed because taking one down 1v1 is such a drag and a waste of ammo someone might decide to say "**** it, let's go fight something fun" as soon as he realizes you're dual rep. Pretty much this. Range control in frigate pvp is extremely important, and the dual rep incursus (along with any other 2 mid AB frigate) has none. Rail Incursus is a solid scam kiter, and will teach you the important of range control, transversal, ammo types, and how to manage your armor repper efficiently. Scram kiting frigs IMO require a good amount of skill to fly well and will teach you a lot about frigate pvp.
Scram-Web-AB is possibly the most skill-less way to pilot frigs. |
Bastion Arzi
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
201
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Posted - 2015.01.10 11:37:59 -
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Maeltstome wrote:Scram-Web-AB is possibly the most skill-less way to pilot frigs.
yet its a direct counter to mwd scram web |
Doctor Knuckles
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
71
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Posted - 2015.01.10 11:58:27 -
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Maeltstome wrote:
Scram-Web-AB is possibly the most skill-less way to pilot frigs.
To be honest statements like that simply show how few of the nuances of brawling in a frig you grasp. |
Bastion Arzi
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
201
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Posted - 2015.01.10 22:33:10 -
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Doctor Knuckles wrote:To be honest statements like that simply show how few of the nuances of brawling in a frig you grasp.
im sorry what nuances of brawling am i failng to grasp? i would have thought that if a fast tackle frig, brawler fit, chased down and tackled frig with ab scram web. the ab scram web ship would have the upper hand because once he scrams and webs the tackler he can dictate range. |
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Tsukino Stareine
Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep
821
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Posted - 2015.01.10 22:42:55 -
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depends on the situation as you mentioned.
Solo frig pvp in fw space, a lot of people are AB fit since there are gates to force people to land on top of you.
If you're both ab/scram fit then it takes a hell of a lot of manual piloting, ammo switching and attempted slingshotting to regain range control and damage application.
I can guarantee u that if you 1vs1 an experienced pilot and you just hit orbit 500 and turn your **** on, you will lose. |
Bastion Arzi
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
201
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Posted - 2015.01.10 22:47:55 -
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ops he wasnt talking to me. lol why do i always do something moronic like that. omg |
Mysa
Evil Plankton
35
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Posted - 2015.01.11 16:18:45 -
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Two easy setup for a new gallente player, and if you fly whit friends you should be ok if you keep your ship outside of scrambler and webifier range.
Atron, keep at 9.5km range or orbite at 8.5km whit ab. Mwd for initial tackle. Salvager for t2 wrecks! Use blaster when you more experienced whit dictation range and slingshot tactics.
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste F85 Peripheral Damage System I Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I Experimental 1MN Afterburner I J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
75mm 'Scout' Accelerator Cannon, Caldari Navy Antimatter/Thorium Charge S 75mm 'Scout' Accelerator Cannon, Caldari Navy Antimatter/Thorium Charge S 75mm 'Scout' Accelerator Cannon, Caldari Navy Antimatter/Thorium Charge S Salvager I
Small Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I Small Hybrid Locus Coordinator I Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Swap Magnetic Field Stabilizer for a Tracking Enhancer and change guns to 125mm "scouts" for better kite range.
Incursus is a brawler ship, dont kite whit it as the atron does it better. ECM drones? yea your a brave noobie going for the mail, honor it!
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste F85 Peripheral Damage System I Limited Adaptive Nano Plating I Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 25
Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Hornet EC-300 x1
And then we have the Merlin just a rank 1 skill away! Hands down better then both atron and incursus. Slighlyt lesa gility then kite atron, lesser "tank" then incursus but it has that dmg outpot that any of the other frigates can ever get!
Merlin, Extended brawler fitt, swap extender for a medium aux boooster. And use thorium/lead ammo vs kite Atrons.
F85 Peripheral Damage System I Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Merlin, kite every incursus you find. get help from friends to finish it off!
F85 Peripheral Damage System I Overdrive Injector System I Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I Experimental 1MN Afterburner I Faint Warp Disruptor I Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script
150mm 'Scout' Accelerator Cannon, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S 150mm 'Scout' Accelerator Cannon, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S 150mm 'Scout' Accelerator Cannon, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Hybrid Ambit Extension I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
There is about 10 more fits to get from these ships but i would like to think its a good start.
SoloFoLife!
-KEKE the Merlin wonder
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
8410
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Posted - 2015.01.11 16:49:22 -
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Maeltstome wrote: Scram-Web-AB is possibly the most skill-less way to pilot frigs.
since when did fighting up hill require less skill?
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Squatdog
State Protectorate Caldari State
179
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Posted - 2015.01.11 21:05:46 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:
If you're both ab/scram fit then it takes a hell of a lot of manual piloting, ammo switching and attempted slingshotting to regain range control and damage application.
I can guarantee u that if you 1vs1 an experienced pilot and you just hit orbit 500 and turn your **** on, you will lose.
Not really.
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ArchenTheGreat
Interstellar Clone Transport
31
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Posted - 2015.01.14 15:26:15 -
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For group cheap PVP I like to use Maulus. Lows: speed and cap, Overdrive Injector System + Power Diagnostic System mix Mid: MWD and ECM, 1MN Microwarpdrive + Sensor Dampeners (range script) High: drones, Drone Link Augmentor Rigs: lock range, Small Ionic Field Projector Stay away from trouble and dampen the frack out of them. |
Agent Unknown
Night Theifs DamnedNation
3
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Posted - 2015.01.14 18:10:49 -
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~6 mil Tristan (with drones):
[Tristan, Surely you trist]
F85 Peripheral Damage System I Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Capacitor Power Relay II
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S 125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S [Empty High slot]
Small Transverse Bulkhead I Small Transverse Bulkhead I Small Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I
Hobgoblin II x5
Evepraisal: http://evepraisal.com/e/4577879
It's a rather tight fit (158/162.5 CPU at all V) so may require a CPU implant with lesser skills. I put the power relay there because I couldn't find anything I wanted there otherwise (maybe an Overdrive for more speed?) and it makes the fit cap-stable for longer brawls.
General strategy is to kite your opponent and pulse the disruptor's overheat if you overshoot. Orbit at ~16km and use the web defensively if they try to slingshot you with a scram. If you do get caught you're dead, so it's an unforgiving fit but it'll force you to learn self-awareness while in combat. I prefer a tracking rig to help the rails snipe drones (antimatter won't hit hard beyond 12km), but can be adjusted for personal taste. |
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