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Shiva Makoto
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
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Posted - 2015.03.26 22:26:18 -
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Seeing that someone necro'd this thread i can give a quick AAR/situation update.
After the warzone was taken and the slaves got shown their place it was more or less decided that we have to be careful or we will break our toys. And fighting plex rats is even less of a challenge than some things we've seen from the minmatar. So the focus was on pew pew and holding a few systems that we like.
After a while, countless (i think we are up to evati push number 4 or 5) attempts on evati were made by minmatar. These attempts were hilarious and i can't recall evati ever being in real danger. But I shouldn't complain about content on my doorstep.
In the same time flirts with D'n'G started and a bromance developed, a direction was needed to vent all that tension and lust between us.
Conveniently we heard rumors about the nth attempt on evati, this time the attacks wont be coming from high sec (lol) but from todifrauan, a system next door.
Seeing that minmatar didn't really learn anything from the last x attempts, us in need of a wedding ceremony and the slaves in need of a slap on the wrist, it was decided to show minmatar how to take a system. Maybe they'll learn this time?
Well not even two days later we made our bromance with D'n'G official by bashing the hub that was covered in countless minmatar wrecks.
For the last day of the push we deployed tactics stolen from elite high sec pvp groups such as catalyst fleets...with great results. There isn't much more to be said about the fights as most of them were quick and brutal.
Thanks to the few minmatar fleets that showed up from time to time and even bigger thanks to all the neutral gangs that made this not a boring plexing effort.
See you minnies again as soon as there is a system actually worth taking, maybe you learned something by that time.
#YOLOCOLO 2.0 love you D'n'G
TL;DR: Arrangements between neutrals and director spais in min mil accidentally Todifrauan, pls stop plexing my systems deplexing makes my brain go numb |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
80
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Posted - 2015.03.26 22:47:46 -
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Shiva Makoto wrote:Seeing that someone necro'd this thread i can give a quick AAR/situation update.
After the warzone was taken and the slaves got shown their place it was more or less decided that we have to be careful or we will break our toys. And fighting plex rats is even less of a challenge than some things we've seen from the minmatar. So the focus was on pew pew and holding a few systems that we like.
After a while, countless (i think we are up to evati push number 4 or 5) attempts on evati were made by minmatar. These attempts were hilarious and i can't recall evati ever being in real danger. But I shouldn't complain about content on my doorstep.
In the same time flirts with D'n'G started and a bromance developed, a direction was needed to vent all that tension and lust between us.
Conveniently we heard rumors about the nth attempt on evati, this time the attacks wont be coming from high sec (lol) but from todifrauan, a system next door.
Seeing that minmatar didn't really learn anything from the last x attempts, us in need of a wedding ceremony and the slaves in need of a slap on the wrist, it was decided to show minmatar how to take a system. Maybe they'll learn this time?
Well not even two days later we made our bromance with D'n'G official by bashing the hub that was covered in countless minmatar wrecks.
For the last day of the push we deployed tactics stolen from elite high sec pvp groups such as catalyst fleets...with great results. There isn't much more to be said about the fights as most of them were quick and brutal.
Thanks to the few minmatar fleets that showed up from time to time and even bigger thanks to all the neutral gangs that made this not a boring plexing effort.
See you minnies again as soon as there is a system actually worth taking, maybe you learned something by that time.
#YOLOCOLO 2.0 love you D'n'G
TL;DR: Arrangements between neutrals and director spais in min mil accidentally Todifrauan, pls stop plexing my systems deplexing makes my brain go numb
Easier to necro the thread than to start a new one really. Unfortunately you guys did not wait for me like I asked - how rude...
If there have been pushes on Evati that is news to me - are you sure someone was not just looking for a fight?
Anyway, we will see you again soon no doubt. Lamaa and Todi were fun whilst they lasted - don't kid yourself on your doctrines however, we may choose to engage when we are outnumbered 2:1 and the result is normally predictable. We simply know that that's what it will take to get a fight most of the time.
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Tristan daCuhna
Dirt 'n' Glitter
14
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Posted - 2015.03.26 22:49:38 -
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Shiva Makoto wrote:
#YOLOCOLO 2.0 love you D'n'G
Shiva hello?
This isn't Reddit. I don't know what to do.
HALP
Edit: To the slave. https://zkillboard.com/br/33007/ totes outnumbered 2:1 there bro. |
Terribly Misguided
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.03.26 23:29:26 -
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Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote: If there have been pushes on Evati that is news to me - are you sure someone was not just looking for a fight?
I think they are talking about U'K, who did make an active push on more then one occasion. |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
80
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Posted - 2015.03.26 23:37:27 -
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Tristan daCuhna wrote:Shiva Makoto wrote:
#YOLOCOLO 2.0 love you D'n'G
Shiva hello? This isn't Reddit. I don't know what to do. HALP Edit: To the slave. https://zkillboard.com/br/33007/ totes outnumbered 2:1 there bro.
I can refresh your memory if you want?
1) The Tuskers were not helping us :). Any engagements you had with them are entirely seperate.
2) I have no idea who relentless destruction are but again they were not with us.
3) Any fights you had with NRG were seperate to your fight with Minnie Militia
4) The kill of Angus' Hurricane was not a fleet battle if I recall - in fact I think it was Tuskars who killed that in an entirely seperate engagement.
5) x2 of the pilots you quoted are sentry guns and I assume you took fire from them if you engaged neutrals on a gate at some point - again not an issue with engaging war targets.
So yes that makes the numbers more like x33 Amarr Militia (minus a few I guess, I don't remember you having a Drake for our fight on the gate also minus any double counted pods) so 26 Amarr versus at best 18 Minnie's (although about x3 were caught warping into gate camps and not warping out etc also minus double counted pods)
So by my approximated count it was 26 vs 15 in your favour when we chose to engage for our fight on the gate. Which yes you did win (gf) but yes you also outnumbered us...as I said almost 2:1.
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Shiva Makoto
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
78
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Posted - 2015.03.26 23:40:12 -
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An old and wise pilot from LNA or iron oxide once told me: get more friends |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
80
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Posted - 2015.03.26 23:47:28 -
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Terribly Misguided wrote:Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote: If there have been pushes on Evati that is news to me - are you sure someone was not just looking for a fight?
I think they are talking about U'K, who did make an active push on more then one occasion.
Fair enough if they did their own thing. We normally wind up in Evati/Las if we have not found anything on a roam, so we Plex it a little to see if we can provoke a fight :) |
Red Khalmer
Minmatar Secret Service Ushra'Khan
38
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Posted - 2015.03.27 18:28:20 -
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oh yes, Pyre's push was great on Todifraun, unfortuneatly when I was online, you brought like the height of no fun into the system.
-jump into system -check Dscan -see 2 garmurs 2 confessors 1 svipul 2 kestrels 1 atron in small with skirmish boosts -"Meh"
And that was that. Why engage something to inheriently boring as a kite fleet with shiny toys. When we can have all the fun engaging Conglomerate or DnG in the rest of the warzone instead.
I really wish I could be around to get into some sweet PvP action with you but this time it wasnt the case.
But good job, hope all parts had some fun fights in the meanwhile while plexing Todifraun. |
Milo Caman
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
124
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Posted - 2015.03.27 20:54:58 -
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Really? When I was around at least, we flipped the system with kitchen-sink frigates and destroyers (T3 and otherwise), along with the occasional cruiser for large complexes.
We didn't pull anything even vaguely organized composition-wise until the system hit about 90%, where we hopped into catalysts and proceeded to have a great time. Not too sure you can kite easily with those? |
Kalaratiri
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
536
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Posted - 2015.03.27 21:21:41 -
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Also not sure why you're complaining about skirmish boosts when you had at least two link alts of your own in system for most of the evening.
She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.
This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums. -á- CCP Falcon
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Mayrin Hawke
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
0
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Posted - 2015.03.27 21:30:21 -
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if you're afraid of garmurs, just keep in mind that garmurs are afraid of tristans ;D |
Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
724
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Posted - 2015.03.28 00:58:35 -
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COME ON WARZONE, GET ******* STUCK IN THERE.
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
3217
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Posted - 2015.03.28 05:58:18 -
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someone took lamaa and we took it back. I missed the ihub bash but dotlan speaks truth.
the Todifraun flip made it into the ticker of the latest scope vid btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFy2KTGYlYI \o/
how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
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Red Khalmer
Minmatar Secret Service Ushra'Khan
40
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Posted - 2015.03.28 15:41:09 -
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that is really nice of CCP to add into the video, thanks for sharing!
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Otsdarva IV
Dirt 'n' Glitter
13
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Posted - 2015.03.28 16:15:48 -
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It's hard to enjoy a game where you get one fight a week because turbodunking slaves stops them logging in until they can ship in some more cancer tristans.
Minis please, maybe you should stick to mining for anything isk related :%)
plus if you do it in a venture you don't have to buy out jita of stabs :%) |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
80
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Posted - 2015.03.28 18:23:45 -
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Otsdarva IV wrote:It's hard to enjoy a game where you get one fight a week because turbodunking slaves stops them logging in until they can ship in some more cancer tristans.
Minis please, maybe you should stick to mining for anything isk related :%)
plus if you do it in a venture you don't have to buy out jita of stabs :%)
Any time you want a fight come to Lulm, we are normally happy to oblige, if we are not there then we are roaming and someone will poke us - then again we frequently see DnG and Terp out there so you should already know this. DnG don't have a home system in the Warzone last I checked so I would be careful of accusations of worrying about getting fights off us. At least we know where to go to provoke a reaction from Pyre Falcon etc.
Bring empty pods though, Mystical Might is a sneaky smart bomber ;)
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
852
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Posted - 2015.03.28 22:27:00 -
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Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote: Bring empty pods though, Mystical Might is a sneaky smart bomber ;)
Confirming. The only thing I've seen so far in this war zone that instills fear is being in a pricey pod with Mystical or Santos in system. |
Dreaded Vengance
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
65
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Posted - 2015.03.30 13:02:35 -
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Until the Minnies can get their TZ coverage back to pre #burnhuola levels I can't see the situation changing much. Amarr shouldn't want to push them out completely because they'll just have the local pirate alliances that aren't already blue to shoot, Minnies aren't in a position to contest Amarr home systems of any note.
FW needs a bit of attention. |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
80
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Posted - 2015.03.30 13:51:55 -
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Dreaded Vengance wrote:Until the Minnies can get their TZ coverage back to pre #burnhuola levels I can't see the situation changing much. Amarr shouldn't want to push them out completely because they'll just have the local pirate alliances that aren't already blue to shoot, Minnies aren't in a position to contest Amarr home systems of any note.
FW needs a bit of attention.
It's not really a CCP problem this time, Minmatar need more players in particular time zones really. But hey flying against the odds is the Minmatar way! Just look at our ships!
Trust in the Rust o7 |
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
34028
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Posted - 2015.03.31 12:20:17 -
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Dreaded Vengance wrote:Until the Minnies can get their TZ coverage back to pre #burnhuola levels I can't see the situation changing much. Amarr shouldn't want to push them out completely because they'll just have the local pirate alliances that aren't already blue to shoot, Minnies aren't in a position to contest Amarr home systems of any note.
FW needs a bit of attention.
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:It's not really a CCP problem this time, Minmatar need more players in particular time zones really. But hey flying against the odds is the Minmatar way! Just look at our ships!
Trust in the Rust o7
agreed, need to recruit people into FW corps from outside.
Critically Preposterous is recruiting! Join the fight!
I am a cat.
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Dreaded Vengance
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
67
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Posted - 2015.03.31 12:40:20 -
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Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Dreaded Vengance wrote:Until the Minnies can get their TZ coverage back to pre #burnhuola levels I can't see the situation changing much. Amarr shouldn't want to push them out completely because they'll just have the local pirate alliances that aren't already blue to shoot, Minnies aren't in a position to contest Amarr home systems of any note.
FW needs a bit of attention. It's not really a CCP problem this time, Minmatar need more players in particular time zones really. But hey flying against the odds is the Minmatar way! Just look at our ships! Trust in the Rust o7
I dunno, maybe faction corps 'own' ihubs and can set vulnerability timers a bit like a pos. That means bash fleets have to commit in a TZ where they'll see resistance instead of hitting it in the middle of the night in Stealth Bombers. Risk = Reward, bring out the BS fleets and actually fight for it. System not flipped in time? reset contested level and start again. |
Suun Ablehart
Parallax Shift The Periphery
33
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Posted - 2015.04.02 03:58:33 -
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Except there isn't really any true cohesion across corps and alliances, even in the same faction.
People would end up timing i-hubs in the middle of the night or workday, or in the case of Amarr-Minmatar, in their own strong TZ, which happens to not be the strong TZ of the opposing faction.
Honestly FW had started its downhill march the moment they made i-hubs and system capture a thing. Plex warfare is boring as hell, and just a continual shitfest of frigs and more terribly fit frigs. As someone who had been in FW close to the beginning of FW, I fondly remember the times when mention of system control or bunkers = DGAF. We'd laugh at corps like Space Pervs who actually cared about capturing systems, and instead just brawled on gates with BS and BCs. Makes one wonder why FW pilots don't tend to stick around, and instead move onto better things, such as piracy.
Parallax SHIFT // @SuunAblehart
Recruiting Pilots // Low-sec Pirate Corp
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Milo Caman
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
126
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Posted - 2015.04.02 10:31:19 -
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Suun Ablehart wrote: Honestly FW had started its downhill march the moment they made i-hubs and system capture a thing. Plex warfare is boring as hell, and just a continual shitfest of frigs and more terribly fit frigs. As someone who had been in FW close to the beginning of FW, I fondly remember the times when mention of system control or bunkers = DGAF. We'd laugh at corps like Space Pervs who actually cared about capturing systems, and instead just brawled on gates with BS and BCs. Makes one wonder why FW pilots don't tend to stick around, and instead move onto better things, such as piracy.
I too, enjoying running around in Flycatcher fleets and getting no fights whatsoever. |
exiik Shardani
Terpene Conglomerate
25
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Posted - 2015.04.03 00:09:16 -
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Suun Ablehart wrote:Except there isn't really any true cohesion across corps and alliances, even in the same faction.
People would end up timing i-hubs in the middle of the night or workday, or in the case of Amarr-Minmatar, in their own strong TZ, which happens to not be the strong TZ of the opposing faction.
Honestly FW had started its downhill march the moment they made i-hubs and system capture a thing. Plex warfare is boring as hell, and just a continual shitfest of frigs and more terribly fit frigs. As someone who had been in FW close to the beginning of FW, I fondly remember the times when mention of system control or bunkers = DGAF. We'd laugh at corps like Space Pervs who actually cared about capturing systems, and instead just brawled on gates with BS and BCs. Makes one wonder why FW pilots don't tend to stick around, and instead move onto better things, such as piracy.
You are funny, pirates are just parasites on FW content (and yeah with farm alts too). Why noone fly BC/BS etc? you are probably blind if said that. When someone undock BC+ (cruisers+ more likely) in Amarr/minmatar wz -> 99% they get blobed by DT, SC, you...
Last time we undock 8 BC + 3 cruisers and you use 45ppl fleet against us... so when you need outnumber and outgunned enemies then DO NOT CRY about that what FW pilots fly...
Iam personally so much bored fight every time pirates/neutrals instead of MFW pilots, because fights with MFW pilots is much more funny. last few ihubs bashes were funny until pirates ruins it... |
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
34134
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Posted - 2015.04.03 04:41:06 -
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Dreaded Vengance wrote:Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Dreaded Vengance wrote:Until the Minnies can get their TZ coverage back to pre #burnhuola levels I can't see the situation changing much. Amarr shouldn't want to push them out completely because they'll just have the local pirate alliances that aren't already blue to shoot, Minnies aren't in a position to contest Amarr home systems of any note.
FW needs a bit of attention. It's not really a CCP problem this time, Minmatar need more players in particular time zones really. But hey flying against the odds is the Minmatar way! Just look at our ships! Trust in the Rust o7 I dunno, maybe faction corps 'own' ihubs and can set vulnerability timers a bit like a pos. That means bash fleets have to commit in a TZ where they'll see resistance instead of hitting it in the middle of the night in Stealth Bombers. Risk = Reward, bring out the BS fleets and actually fight for it. System not flipped in time? reset contested level and start again. you have to take numbers of both militias and pirates into account, and the possibility of the window being deliberately set to the most convenient TZ to just avoid that sort of fight. and besides, pirates are just as big a menace as Amarr, if not bigger.
Critically Preposterous is recruiting! Join the fight!
I am a cat.
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ValentinaDLM
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
623
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Posted - 2015.04.06 11:34:35 -
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Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Dreaded Vengance wrote:Until the Minnies can get their TZ coverage back to pre #burnhuola levels I can't see the situation changing much. Amarr shouldn't want to push them out completely because they'll just have the local pirate alliances that aren't already blue to shoot, Minnies aren't in a position to contest Amarr home systems of any note.
FW needs a bit of attention. It's not really a CCP problem this time, Minmatar need more players in particular time zones really. But hey flying against the odds is the Minmatar way! Just look at our ships! Trust in the Rust o7
Well being outnumbered is easy to spin as "Our faction lives in a target rich environment" :p FWIW I hope recruiting works, I would like to see more fights and less fleets losing against the TZ. I would love to be fighting on the regular against doctrine fleets.
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Cinnamon Rage
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.04.08 13:14:33 -
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Hello all,
It looks like this article would be pertinent to the thread.
http://evenews24.com/2015/04/07/amarrminmatar-faction-warfare-march-update/
Happy Hunting! |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
84
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Posted - 2015.04.10 13:18:57 -
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Huh I figured Lulm would have been attacked by now after that article, it's been a while since a good old fashioned system seige. But yes I think Hoplites are awesome...we are recruiting :p
Can we count on the Amarr showing up for Eszur tonight? Hopefully get some good fights? |
Mystical Might
V0LTA Triumvirate.
166
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Posted - 2015.04.21 10:25:12 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote: Bring empty pods though, Mystical Might is a sneaky smart bomber ;)
Confirming. The only thing I've seen so far in this war zone that instills fear is being in a pricey pod with Mystical or Santos in system.
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