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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.08 23:16:07 -
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This turned into a long story, my posting sucks, you probably shouldn't read it.
Having a space job and managing thousands of reactor farms isn't the most fun thing to do in Eve. The POS mechanics and management system are god awful and tedious to manage, and really make the game less fun.
In my state of pure boredom and tired of talking about fixing null ore anomalies, I was reminded by an associate that I could always day trip down to empire and dabble with some highsec gankery. Being that I have had a 5.0 sec status for years now, I figured that I'd give it a shot.
It took us about an hour to get set up- moving from Deklein to high sec was pretty quick with instaceptors, and then using our own freighter alts to haul in enough fit t2 catalysts for us to play with for as long as we'd ever want to. Other than having fit ships, my associate and I had no idea what to expect, nor the extent of ships that we could successfully take out.
We first arrived at a mackinaw shooting some rocks in a random belt- I know that mackinaws can get pretty tanky, but we decided to give it a shot anyways. A mere 5 seconds later, the mackinaw was vaporized sporting a pretty unique fit.
Awesome! Nothing like our first successful highsec gank. Being that I'm not totally an ******* most of the time, I convoed the guy and inquired about his interesting choice in mods (or lack thereof). He told me that he had just resubbed and was rather upset that his ship was blown up. Rather than rub it in or whatever normal gankers do, I actually gave him a pat on the back, apologized that he was the first random kill of the day, and give him a nice "welcome back to eve :)". I even gave him some recommendations on how to fit it better and even that he could make more isk/hour running missions or doing basically anything else than what he was doing in a much cheaper ship. He was thankful and went on his way. Damn, I'm such a nice guy.
Rather than just reship and gank the same system again, we decided to head back to home base and scout out some fresh targets. Using one of my several hundred afk cloaking alts, I found a mackinaw mining away at a belt in a nearby system. This guy was much more clever than the last one. He had concord already spawned at the belt, as well as his own scorpion alt next to him. Because I'm generally awful at Eve, I accidentally got too close on my cloaked alt and decloaked. The miner didn't budge; knowing that if I touched him, I would be instantly concordokkened. I don't like being smugged on, so I decided to go ahead and scan him to see what I was going up against. An okay tank, nothing major. I don't know if being scanned happens frequently in highsec, but that would be an instant red flag to me. This miner, accompanied by his alt in a scorpion and concord, fearlessly chipped away at the asteroids around him.
All of a sudden, concord started to align and warp away. As they did, two freshly minted catalysts emerged from the nether and simultaneously engaged the once smug miner. Melting within seconds, the mackinaw exploded (with pretty neat graphics, I might say- one of the few times I've ever turned graphics on high), spewing the pod and its contents all over the belt. Just as I locked up the pod, the scorpion finally locked me. And then I was dead; Concord had come back whence they departed earlier.
As we were warping back to reship, we continued scouting for our next targets. Hulk, Hulk, Mackinaw, Mackinaw, Skiff, Orca, all in the same belt. In retrospect, I should have batphoned some more friends to come help, but I only have one friend and he was already with me.
Just us two, we quickly waited down our timers and reshipped, staying down wind of the unsuspecting miners. AFK Cloaker #67 was already at the belt, waiting for us, 5km off of the group of miners. My friend and I quickly talked about the order of events and which target to hit. Concord was called to a POCO for some reason just as two catalysts landed on grid with the exhumers. Being outnumbered and overgunned, we quickly locked up targets and engaged. Oops, I shot the wrong guy, I'm pretty awful. Luckily, my not awful friend realized I was shooting the wrong target and quickly switched over to help me. Hulk down. Mission Accomplished .
For a few tens of million ISK, I had an absolute blast. There is nothing quite like hunting out unsuspecting prey and the subsequent bloodlust after your first kill. I, too, have miners of my own- yet I did not hesitate one second going out and suicide ganking in unknown space. I urge everyone to try it at least one time, as I just did last night. All you need is a catalyst, t2 blasters, some damage rigs, and full damage mods in the lows. I'm bad so I don't know what they are all called. Go find an unsuspecting Hulk or Mackinaw and become one with the catalyst. I recommend sending them an apology message after the fact for being the random victim of the day, and give them a salutary "welcome to eve".
Bottom line- try something new, have a lot of fun. Suicide ganking is a great and cheap place to start.
tl;dr: go try a suicide gank one time if you've never done it before- you won't regret it- as long as you kill something, hah! |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.01.08 23:25:26 -
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Nicely done. Also, Grrr
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
7845
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Posted - 2015.01.08 23:26:19 -
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The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
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Vapor Ventrillian
The Scope Gallente Federation
147
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Posted - 2015.01.08 23:32:52 -
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I enjoyed the read and the moral I found - gankings fine, provoking the life outta them is not
It is..so hard ..not to moan about...Code. damit I said it
The Evil Overlord of Scope, self elected as all good overlords should be
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
19109
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Posted - 2015.01.09 01:34:08 -
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::golf clap::
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
5783
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Posted - 2015.01.09 02:09:05 -
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I'm more upset at the ship fits than the ganks.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6518
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Posted - 2015.01.09 02:15:43 -
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I thought spawning concord to guard you wasn't allowed?
The amusing thing being that prepping or pulling concord away is fine though
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
740
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Posted - 2015.01.09 02:24:49 -
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I before the lock for kill mails
Mr Omniblivion wrote: Being that I'm not totally an ******* most of the time, I convoed the guy and inquired about his interesting choice in mods (or lack thereof). He told me that he had just resubbed and was rather upset that his ship was blown up. Rather than rub it in or whatever normal gankers do, I actually gave him a pat on the back, apologized that he was the first random kill of the day, and give him a nice "welcome back to eve :)". I even gave him some recommendations on how to fit it better and even that he could make more isk/hour running missions or doing basically anything else than what he was doing in a much cheaper ship. He was thankful and went on his way. Damn, I'm such a nice guy. "Oh yes, old chap! Why I gave him the sharp end of my guns. Once he was down, I called him a complete and utter fool. Then being a gracious man, why I hit him again and finally, I sent him on his way with a bee in his ear!"
The writing aside, it looks to me that either they have no fear (unlikely with all the publicity about ganking) or they have simply given up and minimal fit their ships for the most yield and eat the cost.
Some people prefer a relaxed game and you can't change their choice.
CSM Ten movement for change.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids.
Status: Rabid carebear
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Steppa Musana
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2015.01.09 03:01:45 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:I thought spawning concord to guard you wasn't allowed?
The amusing thing being that prepping or pulling concord away is fine though disposing of your CONCORD spawning alts isnt allowed. youre allowed to prespawn. |
Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
1039
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Posted - 2015.01.09 03:04:31 -
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I remember my first time. ***** like crack. |
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Xadus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2015.01.09 03:24:33 -
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All you need is a catalyst, t2 blasters, some damage rigs, and full damage mods in the lows
shhhh
now all of empire will be doing it. |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1188
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Posted - 2015.01.09 03:25:28 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:I thought spawning concord to guard you wasn't allowed?
The amusing thing being that prepping or pulling concord away is fine though During a threadnaught a couple months back a GM actually chimed in on this. Too lazy to dig up the exact post, but the jist was basically 'what's good for the goose is good for the gander'. concord can still be drawn away with discount donuts long enough for the dirty to happen, so it's not a huge deal.
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
1040
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Posted - 2015.01.09 03:48:36 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:I thought spawning concord to guard you wasn't allowed?
The amusing thing being that prepping or pulling concord away is fine though During a threadnaught a couple months back a GM actually chimed in on this. Too lazy to dig up the exact post, but the jist was basically 'what's good for the goose is good for the gander'. concord can still be drawn away with discount donuts long enough for the dirty to happen, so it's not a huge deal.
Seems like a pretty big deal if you can keep them on grid 100% of the time using a low security alt. Pulling concord is also not a good thing. Clearly both exploiting of CONCORD AI.
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Abyss Azizora
Temporary Corp 12
150
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Posted - 2015.01.09 04:16:00 -
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Usually anything posted by a goon isn't worth reading, but I gotta admit... this was a good read. And yeah suicide ganking can be a lot of fun for the aggressor. Done it only a few times, but it was with corpmates and using alts to remove competition in a system overcrowded by AFK/bot miners. Have to say, it was indeed a lot of fun, and we only botched a single gank despite us using a mish-mash of dessies and not the "god-of-ganking" catalysts. :P
Mario: It's also been confirmed by CCP that pulling concord is a 100% legitimate tactic for either side. Not an exploit. |
Michael Ruckert
Hohere Kavallerie-Kommando
256
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Posted - 2015.01.09 04:56:01 -
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See you avoided tanked and rigged Procurers. Smart lad. Pat on your head.
"No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier
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Myles Wong
Mallaks Brown Grotto Raiders
33
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Posted - 2015.01.09 04:59:39 -
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Your awesomeness transcends the stars themselves. Be proud....you destroyer of nothingness. |
Hippinse
University of Caille Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2015.01.09 05:03:35 -
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Mr Omniblivion wrote:I urge everyone to try it at least one time, as I just did last night. All you need is a catalyst, t2 blasters, some damage rigs, and full damage mods in the lows.
How long until the grand opening of Mr Omniblivion's Catalyst, T2 Blaster, Damage Rig/Mod and General Store. ("All goods produced from cage-free minerals lovingly grown in free-range null anomalies.")
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6034
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Posted - 2015.01.09 06:09:37 -
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The Great Karnak predicts a lock.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Serene Repose
2036
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Posted - 2015.01.09 06:41:52 -
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Xadus wrote:All you need is a catalyst, t2 blasters, some damage rigs, and full damage mods in the lows shhhh now all of empire will be doing it. Mmhmm.
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1817
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Posted - 2015.01.09 06:43:22 -
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Mr Omniblivion wrote:Rather than rub it in or whatever normal gankers do Mr Omniblivion wrote:I actually gave him a pat on the back, apologized that he was the first random kill of the day, and give him a nice "welcome back to eve :)". I even gave him some recommendations on how to fit it better and even that he could make more isk/hour running missions or doing basically anything else than what he was doing in a much cheaper ship. He was thankful and went on his way. Damn, I'm such a nice guy. This is what normal gankers do. It's the miners who are the assholes (typically).
Mario Putzo wrote:Seems like a pretty big deal if you can keep them on grid 100% of the time using a low security alt. Pulling concord is also not a good thing. Clearly both exploiting of CONCORD AI. Yes, players having some ability to control their environment certainly is a terrible thing.
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
315
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Posted - 2015.01.09 06:54:02 -
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If it's going to get locked, I can just remove the links once an ISD chimes in. They're just in there for flavour |
Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
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Posted - 2015.01.09 07:54:24 -
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There's something about a Goonwaffle posting something like this that makes it go over like a lead balloon. Does the term "strains credulity" leap to mind? Anyone?
EDIT: Mettere a dura prova buona fede, essere al limite del credibile.
Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.
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Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
721
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Posted - 2015.01.09 08:10:48 -
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Can someone explain why asteroid belts still exist and why barges/exhumers are still able to be produced? Seems if they were removed and minerals were seeded, you could actually have a game where you don't shoot stupid worthless targets that never should of existed in the first place because the vessels are so damn stupid (the pod should blow up with the ship and they should lose SP, like a T3 to save you ammo). No, never had mining vessel if mine ganked as I quickly realized how fcking boring it was, just seems if asteroids where removed, minerals seeded, the vessels and their SP not refunded back by CCP, you would actually have a more interesting game instead of paper target bragging (I r awsume! where you sound like you have mental impediments) or training to be a clay pigeon / that goat tied like in the move Jurassic Park shortly before its eaten (still cannot figure out Why would any want to be a miner? Go play minesweeper or solitaire FFS, more distracting than CCP's poor mini game of sitting in belts doing nothing).
tl;dr aspect is just get rid of asteroids in general, game is far more interesting when you watch actual fights that is not some fat dude who saying how good they are at doing the easiest thing in game, like listening to someone say they are great at level 4 mission bashing |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6519
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Posted - 2015.01.09 08:22:24 -
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Mr Omniblivion wrote:If it's going to get locked, I can just remove the links once an ISD chimes in. They're just in there for flavour More likely they remove it themselves, or
they remove it and lock the thread anyway.
Or move it to crime and punishment?
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
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Sequester Risalo
Significant Others
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Posted - 2015.01.09 08:28:36 -
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Aqriue wrote:Can someone explain why asteroid belts still exist and why barges/exhumers are still able to be produced? Seems if they were removed and minerals were seeded, you could actually have a game where you don't shoot stupid worthless targets that never should of existed in the first place because the vessels are so damn stupid (the pod should blow up with the ship and they should lose SP, like a T3 to save you ammo). No, never had mining vessel if mine ganked as I quickly realized how fcking boring it was, just seems if asteroids where removed, minerals seeded, the vessels and their SP not refunded back by CCP, you would actually have a more interesting game instead of paper target bragging (I r awsume! where you sound like you have mental impediments) or training to be a clay pigeon / that goat tied like in the move Jurassic Park shortly before its eaten (still cannot figure out Why would any want to be a miner? Go play minesweeper or solitaire FFS, more distracting than CCP's poor mini game of sitting in belts doing nothing). tl;dr aspect is just get rid of asteroids in general, game is far more interesting when you watch actual fights that is not some fat dude who saying how good they are at doing the easiest thing in game, like listening to someone say they are great at level 4 mission bashing
And while they are at it they should close down all systems except Thera so your playstyle is the only one available. Subscription numbers are for sissies anyway. |
ISD Supogo
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
419
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Posted - 2015.01.09 08:31:01 -
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Edited out links to killmails.
Quote:Forum rules36. Posting of kill reports outside of the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited.More often than not, posts of this nature are made with inflammatory intent and are designed to promote trolling and flaming. Therefore, the posting of links to kill reports from any third party site, or the direct copy-pasting of kill reports from in game is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online Forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel. Specific rules regarding the omission of pilot names apply in this instance. Further details can be found in the rules stickies in the Crime & Punishment forum channel.
ISD Supogo
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
2771
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Posted - 2015.01.09 12:02:50 -
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It's really easy when you use a scout and never undock unless you strike.
When you like playing like a carebear, that's the way to go.
It's also mindlessly boring.
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Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!
Diana Kim > AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1821
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Posted - 2015.01.09 14:01:29 -
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Aqriue wrote:Can someone explain why asteroid belts still exist and why barges/exhumers are still able to be produced? Because getting rid of content for multiple segments of the playerbase while simultaneously taking a section of the player-driven economy away from the players just because you don't like it when people post on forums is a terrible idea?
Sol Project wrote:It's really easy when you use a scout and never undock unless you strike. Yes, the true challenge of EVE is dodging the super-effective faction police.
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Mister Holder
Faceless Men
16
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Posted - 2015.01.09 15:18:02 -
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Thanks for the warning in the first sentence. Stopped there.
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Renegade Heart
Failbear Refuge
346
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Posted - 2015.01.09 15:19:28 -
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I agree with you OP. Ganking is fun, and more people should try it! |
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