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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
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Posted - 2017.01.15 20:39:55 -
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Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Because you should be playing the game if you want to make an impact, not working or sleeping.
No one AFK cloaked makes an impact, they aren't at the keyboard. They can't do anything. |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5742
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Posted - 2017.01.15 20:47:34 -
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Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Linus Gorp wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Wander Prian wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:There needs to be some method of detection of cloakers who sit in the same spot afk all day. If you want to camp a system you should be made to be actively camping it, not just leaving your computer on and going to work.
The problem is how non-interactive this situation is for all parties and It causes far too much disruption for zero effort by the cloaker. Nothing in this game should be zero effort. Does that include intel in nullsec? If you don't like intel in nullsec, go to wormholes. If you want to afk in null, you should have some risk that comes with that, being afk risk free in enemy space is dumb. AFK cloaking is a symptom of the real problem which is zero effort intel in the form of local chat. Remove local and afk cloaking will be gone too. But we both know you can't have that, can you? Can't deal with that risk of someone actually being there. I'm tempted to make afk cloaky alts just to mess with you. So you're saying it's not ok for me to play risk free but it's ok for a cloaky camper to play risk free? You're a hypocrite. Plus I don't even ask to play risk free, I just want campers to have a risk attached with camping and actually PLAY THE GAME...and for some reason you can't handle that. It's you who has no balls, not me.
The risk free nature of AFK cloaking implies there is no risk to you. The problem is that you do not know if the person is AFK or not. Further you make no effort to learn if the person is AFK or not. Consider this thought experiment.
I log in and see a cloaky camper. I want to get an idea of the likelihood he is there. So I get in an epithal and start zipping around the system "pretending" to do PI. I also start going to nearby systems as well through the gates. I am in a very squishy target. And my going through the gates makes me very vulnerable. After doing this a number of times and eliciting no response I would conclude....he is indeed AFK or so paranoid he is little to no threat. After all, if I undock 3 alts in ishtars and start ratting he sure as Hell won't engage if he was ignoring a freaking epithal.
Also look at the kill board. If the kills are predominantly in a TZ outside of the one you are in...then that also indicates a higher probability of the guy being AFK. Also, look up his alliance/corp. They'll often pass along information such as "We are a German corp...etc., etc., etc." If you are in the Mountain TZ in the US your prime playing hours are not going to have much overlap.
Basically, AFK cloaking is one of the ways to disrupt the invulnerable and perfect nature of local which functions as the primary source of intel in NS.
And yes, you want to remove AFK cloakers to reduce the risk and uncertainty you face. That much is clear.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5742
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Posted - 2017.01.15 20:49:16 -
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Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Sonya Corvinus wrote:Funki Ellecon wrote:Yes i did . Was living in C5 for about 4 months . Was doing some Dread ratting . Never felt safer to be honest . WH space is pretty much dead . was living out of POS . dread ratting...so no PvP? that's very different things, and it's only C5-C6s that are broken, for very different reasons than here. PvP out of a C2-C4 and get back to me. Putting a limit on cloaking will just keep ships out of space. Less targets, more safety for those PvE-ers who make content for everyone else. Why would I support that? Because you should be playing the game if you want to make an impact, not working or sleeping.
Really? So what about market orders? Why should some rich dude get to make money while he is AFK? Or get lots of modules, ships, and other resources while he is sleeping or at work?
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
642
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Posted - 2017.01.15 20:54:32 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:So I get in an epithal and start zipping around the system "pretending" to do PI. I also start going to nearby systems as well through the gates. I am in a very squishy target. And my going through the gates makes me very vulnerable. After doing this a number of times and eliciting no response I would conclude....he is indeed AFK or so paranoid he is little to no threat. After all, if I undock 3 alts in ishtars and start ratting he sure as Hell won't engage if he was ignoring a freaking epithal. Not worth the fuel cost.
Oh, and stop wasting your time trying to explain that Caitlynn Askyra anything at all.. He's a narrow-minded, dumb person that won't accept any viewpoint or solution that do not match absolutely with his vision of how the game mechanics should be. No amount of discussing and explaining is going to change that.
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5742
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Posted - 2017.01.15 20:59:50 -
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Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Linus Gorp wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Linus Gorp wrote: My IQ is 178. I seriously doubt yours is above-average.
Quoting IQ as a sign of intelligence in 2017 lmao, plus you do not have an IQ that high anyway. I know this from your replies, you can claim you were trying to trigger me all along but we both know that's false. The mere fact you are excusing afk gameplay shows your intelligence level for what it is. Read all my posts again and this time use your brain to think about what I actually wrote and not what you want to think that I wrote. I never excused afk gameplay. I'm not even pro-afk-gameplay. That's just what you want to believe to justify your whining responses. Think about how you treat a disease.. Do you do it by going after the root problem, i.e. the virus, infection, bacteria, ... that's causing the symptoms, or do you just treat the symptoms? Your problem is that you don't understand what the actual problem is and all you want is treat the symptoms of the actual problem. That's not going to fix anything and will only make matters worse down the road. Blah blah get rid of local problem solved blah blah, except you are changing the way null was intended by doing this. Not even any need to go to that extent. Just don't allow afking in a system and going to work to be equally as effective as playing the game. If you want to play all day by camping an enemy system then I'm all for that and welcome it, because you are using your time to do it. There is a very easy fix, just have a pop up checking to see if you are at your computer once an hour, press yes and you stay cloaked.
No, that AFK cloaking is a result of local can be seen by answering one bloody question.
How do you know that there is an cloaked ship in system? What is it that lets you know he is there?
Is it probes? No. Is it d-scan? No.
(Although you might use both of those, neither is sufficient to tell you you have a cloaked ship in system that is unfriendly.)
Is it his killboard? No. What is it that tells you that in a sov NS system there is a guy there in system with you when all these other things would fail?
I know you won't answer because it is a serious problem for your perspective so I'll answer....
It is local. That guys avatar showing up in local is what tells you he is there. Yes, you might use d-scan and probes to confirm this, but d-scan and probes are not sufficient (i.e. they would tell you nothing if local were not there).
I eagerly await your twisted reasoning and illogic to try and get out of this problem.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5742
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Posted - 2017.01.15 21:09:26 -
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Linus Gorp wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:So I get in an epithal and start zipping around the system "pretending" to do PI. I also start going to nearby systems as well through the gates. I am in a very squishy target. And my going through the gates makes me very vulnerable. After doing this a number of times and eliciting no response I would conclude....he is indeed AFK or so paranoid he is little to no threat. After all, if I undock 3 alts in ishtars and start ratting he sure as Hell won't engage if he was ignoring a freaking epithal. Not worth the fuel cost. Oh, and stop wasting your time trying to explain that Caitlynn Askyra anything at all.. He's a narrow-minded, dumb person that won't accept any viewpoint or solution that do not match absolutely with his vision of how the game mechanics should be. No amount of discussing and explaining is going to change that.
Depends on what I'm carrying...robotics sure would cover the fuel costs at 95,000 ISK each. Everyone grabs 5 of them and take them back to the ammo truck.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
18540
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Posted - 2017.01.16 04:54:20 -
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Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Linus Gorp wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Wander Prian wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:There needs to be some method of detection of cloakers who sit in the same spot afk all day. If you want to camp a system you should be made to be actively camping it, not just leaving your computer on and going to work.
The problem is how non-interactive this situation is for all parties and It causes far too much disruption for zero effort by the cloaker. Nothing in this game should be zero effort. Does that include intel in nullsec? If you don't like intel in nullsec, go to wormholes. If you want to afk in null, you should have some risk that comes with that, being afk risk free in enemy space is dumb. AFK cloaking is a symptom of the real problem which is zero effort intel in the form of local chat. Remove local and afk cloaking will be gone too. But we both know you can't have that, can you? Can't deal with that risk of someone actually being there. I'm tempted to make afk cloaky alts just to mess with you. So you're saying it's not ok for me to play risk free but it's ok for a cloaky camper to play risk free? You're a hypocrite. Plus I don't even ask to play risk free, I just want campers to have a risk attached with camping and actually PLAY THE GAME...and for some reason you can't handle that. It's you who has no balls, not me.
They have a bit more risk than the people docked in system. |
Caitlynn Askyra
Unity Ventures Apocalypse Now.
48
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Posted - 2017.01.16 07:27:19 -
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You guys are simply stupid if you think it's ok not to play the game and have the effect that you are playing the game. .. I've already answered all these points multiple times in my thread but I know none of you actually want a debate. You just hate the fact that someone is suggesting you shouldn't be allowed to grief without even playing the game.
Get a life. |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5745
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Posted - 2017.01.16 07:38:03 -
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Caitlynn Askyra wrote:You guys are simply stupid if you think it's ok not to play the game and have the effect that you are playing the game. .. I've already answered all these points multiple times in my thread but I know none of you actually want a debate. You just hate the fact that someone is suggesting you shouldn't be allowed to grief without even playing the game.
Get a life.
You mean like station traders. Yeah, lets ban them.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Caitlynn Askyra
Unity Ventures Apocalypse Now.
48
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Posted - 2017.01.16 08:01:56 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:You guys are simply stupid if you think it's ok not to play the game and have the effect that you are playing the game. .. I've already answered all these points multiple times in my thread but I know none of you actually want a debate. You just hate the fact that someone is suggesting you shouldn't be allowed to grief without even playing the game.
Get a life. You mean like station traders. Yeah, lets ban them.
That's a pretty stupid comment on your part. Station traders can't trade while away from the computer, people can only buy their stuff, but it's not possible for the trader to undercut or put up new orders.... and before you try to liken it to not doing anything when afk cloaking. The beauty of afk cloaking is you don't really need to do anything to affect other players apart from sit there so no it's not comparable.
You are doing the same job whether you are looking at your screen or not. |
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5745
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Posted - 2017.01.16 08:22:29 -
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Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:You guys are simply stupid if you think it's ok not to play the game and have the effect that you are playing the game. .. I've already answered all these points multiple times in my thread but I know none of you actually want a debate. You just hate the fact that someone is suggesting you shouldn't be allowed to grief without even playing the game.
Get a life. You mean like station traders. Yeah, lets ban them. That's a pretty stupid comment on your part. Station traders can't trade while away from the computer, people can only buy their stuff, but it's not possible for the trader to undercut or put up new orders.... and before you try to liken it to not doing anything when afk cloaking. The beauty of afk cloaking is you don't really need to do anything to affect other players apart from sit there so no it's not comparable. You are doing the same job whether you are looking at your screen or not.
Yes, they can. It is called buy and sell orders. I had an alt set one up before bed a couple of nights ago, I made tens of millions of ISK while sleeping all nice and cozy in my bed. And buy orders let them buy stuff. I see by your comment that you know this. That is having an effect on the game while not logged in.
The two situations are quite similar.
Oh, and FYI, AFK cloaking is not griefing. Griefing activities in this game, oh high and mighty ignorant one, is a very, very short list. Pretty much constrained to about 24 systems in game....none of which, AFAIK, are in sov NS.
But I have to say it is hilarious seeing you run around calling everyone else stupid.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Caitlynn Askyra
Unity Ventures Apocalypse Now.
48
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Posted - 2017.01.16 08:30:55 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:You guys are simply stupid if you think it's ok not to play the game and have the effect that you are playing the game. .. I've already answered all these points multiple times in my thread but I know none of you actually want a debate. You just hate the fact that someone is suggesting you shouldn't be allowed to grief without even playing the game.
Get a life. You mean like station traders. Yeah, lets ban them. That's a pretty stupid comment on your part. Station traders can't trade while away from the computer, people can only buy their stuff, but it's not possible for the trader to undercut or put up new orders.... and before you try to liken it to not doing anything when afk cloaking. The beauty of afk cloaking is you don't really need to do anything to affect other players apart from sit there so no it's not comparable. You are doing the same job whether you are looking at your screen or not. Yes, they can. It is called buy and sell orders. I had an alt set one up before bed a couple of nights ago, I made tens of millions of ISK while sleeping all nice and cozy in my bed. And buy orders let them buy stuff. I see by your comment that you know this. That is having an effect on the game while not logged in.The two situations are quite similar. Oh, and FYI, AFK cloaking is not griefing. Griefing activities in this game, oh high and mighty ignorant one, is a very, very short list. Pretty much constrained to about 24 systems in game....none of which, AFAIK, are in sov NS. But I have to say it is hilarious seeing you run around calling everyone else stupid.
If you think station trading is about just putting up a few buy and sell orders and forgetting them is all you have to do then you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Any trader will tell you that you have to play in order to be effective. So the situations are not similar at all.
AFK cloaking is most certainly griefing, the sole purpose of AFK cloaking is to target players and annoy them. You can cover it in whatever BS story you like about 'doing it to prevent people making ISK', but I and everybody else knows you people just do it because you get off on it. You guys think the purpose of EVE is just to be an ******* to as many people as you possibly can.
If you want to be a **** player then you should be at your keyboard being a ****. |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5745
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Posted - 2017.01.16 09:01:52 -
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Caitlynn Askyra wrote: If you think station trading is about just putting up a few buy and sell orders and forgetting them is all you have to do then you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
Did I write that? I said I put one up then went to bed (it was late and I was tired). And while I was sleeping dozens of the items I put up for sale were sold and I made a nice amount of ISK while sleeping. Clearly, the implication is that I checked on things the next day.
Perhaps, in between bouts of shouting at everyone else about how stupid they are, you should also look into shoring up your own arguments by not relying on straw men.
Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Any trader will tell you that you have to play in order to be effective. So the situations are not similar at all.
Sure you have to log in to put up buy and sell orders. You also have to log in to modify them too. You can even stay logged in between these activities as well...kind of like AFK cloaker.
Does the AFK cloaker have to play to get his ship and fit it? Yes. Does the AFK cloaker have to play to get to his target system? Yes. Does the AFK cloaker have to play to set up the safe spots? Yes.
Hmmm...seems these guys do play...not unlike that station trader.
Caitlynn Askyra wrote:AFK cloaking is most certainly griefing, the sole purpose of AFK cloaking is to target players and annoy them.
And another thing you can do between posts telling us we are all morons, is you work on your reading comprehension. I wrote that in this game it is not griefing. That in this game the list of activities that constitute griefing is very, very small and AFK cloaking is not on the list. If it were griefing it would have been banned a long time ago and removed from the game. It wasn't so it isn't. Please go file a ticket about those AFK cloakers and I'm sure you will get a response back saying it is not griefing. I am absolutely certain.
Quote:You can cover it in whatever BS story you like about 'doing it to prevent people making ISK', but I and everybody else knows you people just do it because you get off on it. You guys think the purpose of EVE is just to be an ******* to as many people as you possibly can.
Sure, but that is part of what makes EVE, EVE. If you want to play the a--hole you can. And not only that it is encouraged by CCP. Their own advertising and youtube videos support this. Want to be an a--hole and rob an alliance blind and as a result they collapse and lose their space...go for it!
Seriously, why is it there are so many players who want CCP to reduce their risk. Oh boo-hooo some poopie heads blew up my ship in LS. A-bloo-bloo-bloo some meanie is AFK and cloaked in system. CCPlease fix this for me because I want to do stuff and not have to bother with the effort.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
646
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Posted - 2017.01.16 09:14:45 -
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Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Linus Gorp wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Blah blah get rid of local problem solved blah blah, except you are changing the way null was intended by doing this.
Not even any need to go to that extent. Just don't allow afking in a system and going to work to be equally as effective as playing the game.
If you want to play all day by camping an enemy system then I'm all for that and welcome it, because you are using your time to do it.
There is a very easy fix, just have a pop up checking to see if you are at your computer once an hour, press yes and you stay cloaked. Well, I give up on you. You're just waaaaaaaaaaaaay too stupid to understand anything at all. I'd suggest you look into a game that's more your intelligence level and leave the grown-ups be. Is that because you ran out of counter arguments and finally realized you were arguing from an idiotic perspective?
your post is #8400 at page 420 on a thread open since 2015-01-09....
somebody can't get a clue.
anyway, let the salt keep flowing, it amuses me!
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Caitlynn Askyra
Unity Ventures Apocalypse Now.
48
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Posted - 2017.01.16 09:20:16 -
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Well you are wrong with everything you said.
You put some orders up before you went to bed, so what, that doesn't mean you are station trading 100% effectively.
When you afk camp a system, that is your goal, and you are 100% effective at it whether you are playing the game or sleeping, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. You shouldn't be 100% effective unless you are playing.
Look up the definition of griefing in games, the word doesn't have a different meaning just because it's EVE.
Also my suggestion doesn't reduce risk at all... this is what you guys can't get your thick heads around. It just means that you can't dump your ship in a system for a week and forget about it. |
Caitlynn Askyra
Unity Ventures Apocalypse Now.
48
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Posted - 2017.01.16 09:21:27 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Linus Gorp wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Blah blah get rid of local problem solved blah blah, except you are changing the way null was intended by doing this.
Not even any need to go to that extent. Just don't allow afking in a system and going to work to be equally as effective as playing the game.
If you want to play all day by camping an enemy system then I'm all for that and welcome it, because you are using your time to do it.
There is a very easy fix, just have a pop up checking to see if you are at your computer once an hour, press yes and you stay cloaked. Well, I give up on you. You're just waaaaaaaaaaaaay too stupid to understand anything at all. I'd suggest you look into a game that's more your intelligence level and leave the grown-ups be. Is that because you ran out of counter arguments and finally realized you were arguing from an idiotic perspective? your post is #8400 at page 420 on a thread open since 2015-01-09.... somebody can't get a clue. anyway, let the salt keep flowing, it amuses me!
Because you are sad. |
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
646
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Posted - 2017.01.16 09:33:14 -
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Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Nat Silverguard wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Linus Gorp wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Blah blah get rid of local problem solved blah blah, except you are changing the way null was intended by doing this.
Not even any need to go to that extent. Just don't allow afking in a system and going to work to be equally as effective as playing the game.
If you want to play all day by camping an enemy system then I'm all for that and welcome it, because you are using your time to do it.
There is a very easy fix, just have a pop up checking to see if you are at your computer once an hour, press yes and you stay cloaked. Well, I give up on you. You're just waaaaaaaaaaaaay too stupid to understand anything at all. I'd suggest you look into a game that's more your intelligence level and leave the grown-ups be. Is that because you ran out of counter arguments and finally realized you were arguing from an idiotic perspective? your post is #8400 at page 420 on a thread open since 2015-01-09.... somebody can't get a clue. anyway, let the salt keep flowing, it amuses me! Because you are sad.
ahh, you can do better than that, come on, that's just lame....
Just Add Water
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5745
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Posted - 2017.01.16 09:34:06 -
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Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Well you are wrong with everything you said.
You put some orders up before you went to bed, so what, that doesn't mean you are station trading 100% effectively.
Did I write that? How about a few courses in logic?
I merely said that I had an effect on the game even after I went to bed. Not only was I AFK I was not even logged in FFS.
Caitlynn Askyra wrote:When you afk camp a system, that is your goal, and you are 100% effective at it whether you are playing the game or sleeping, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. You shouldn't be 100% effective unless you are playing.
No. When we lived in Cloud Ring (CR) we used to go and crap on these guys in Outer Ring. We basically took all their POCOs so whenever they did PI we made money. So one guy started cloaky camping the 1 good system in CR in which to rat (CR is a terrible region). But I knew that this guy was in a German Alliance...their Dotlan page said so. I checked his KB. And being that I was a wildly different TZ I'd go in there while he was AFK camping and rat knowing he was AFK.
So no, not 100% effective. It is only 100% effective if you let it be.
Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Look up the definition of griefing in games, the word doesn't have a different meaning just because it's EVE.
Yes it does. That is the point. EVE is a sandbox and the list of rules is amazingly short. Aside from those rules, do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. So what is griefing in any other game is by definition in EVE not griefing.
Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Also my suggestion doesn't reduce risk at all... this is what you guys can't get your thick heads around. It just means that you can't dump your ship in a system for a week and forget about it.
Your suggestion clearly reduces risk because you are clearly whining and whining about the risk AFK cloakers impose.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Caitlynn Askyra
Unity Ventures Apocalypse Now.
53
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Posted - 2017.01.16 09:45:23 -
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w/e dude, I'll talk to you when you can understand why afk cloaking is as effective as being at the keyboard for what you are trying to achieve by doing it. It's not debatable or open to interpretation, it is a fact. If you think it's it's otherwise it's because you simply don't understand what you are talking about, which in that case, it's you who need to visit the university of logic.
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Caitlynn Askyra
Unity Ventures Apocalypse Now.
53
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Posted - 2017.01.16 09:46:24 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:
ahh, you can do better than that, come on, that's just lame....
I don't need to do better because you are that bad at trolling. |
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5745
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Posted - 2017.01.16 09:59:39 -
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Caitlynn Askyra wrote:w/e dude, I'll talk to you when you can understand why afk cloaking is as effective as being at the keyboard for what you are trying to achieve by doing it. It's not debatable or open to interpretation, it is a fact. If you think it's it's otherwise it's because you simply don't understand what you are talking about, which in that case, it's you who need to visit the university of logic.
Amusing. If you actually put as much effort into dealing with your AFK cloaker as you have trying to insult everyone you might actually solve the probelm...but then players like you don't....well...can't do that. So much better to ask CCP to fix your problems.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
647
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Posted - 2017.01.16 10:06:04 -
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Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Nat Silverguard wrote:
ahh, you can do better than that, come on, that's just lame....
I don't need to do better because you are that bad at trolling.
nah, you're just geniunely bad, same as how an "AWAY from keyboard" cloaky can make you lose your sh!t and embarras yourself like this.
tell you what, as hinted on how long this thread is, it's either you s*ck it up or quit.
well, i suggest you quit cause clearly you're not happy anymore and whoever is camping you won't stop anytime soon because of your delicious thread, and i am saying this out of concern cause it's obviously and definitely affecting you in a negative way.
so, in lieu of this, can i haz your stuff?
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Caitlynn Askyra
Unity Ventures Apocalypse Now.
53
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Posted - 2017.01.16 10:19:18 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:w/e dude, I'll talk to you when you can understand why afk cloaking is as effective as being at the keyboard for what you are trying to achieve by doing it. It's not debatable or open to interpretation, it is a fact. If you think it's it's otherwise it's because you simply don't understand what you are talking about, which in that case, it's you who need to visit the university of logic.
Amusing. If you actually put as much effort into dealing with your AFK cloaker as you have trying to insult everyone you might actually solve the probelm...but then players like you don't....well...can't do that. So much better to ask CCP to fix your problems.
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Caitlynn Askyra
Unity Ventures Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2017.01.16 10:21:04 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Nat Silverguard wrote:
ahh, you can do better than that, come on, that's just lame....
I don't need to do better because you are that bad at trolling. nah, you're just geniunely bad, same as how an "AWAY from keyboard" cloaky can make you lose your sh!t and embarras yourself like this. tell you what, as hinted on how long this thread is, it's either you s*ck it up or quit. well, i suggest you quit cause clearly you're not happy anymore and whoever is camping you won't stop anytime soon because of your delicious thread, and i am saying this out of concern cause it's obviously and definitely affecting you in a negative way. so, in lieu of this, can i haz your stuff?
Not even listening to you so go and talk to someone else. |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2017.01.16 10:24:13 -
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Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:w/e dude, I'll talk to you when you can understand why afk cloaking is as effective as being at the keyboard for what you are trying to achieve by doing it. It's not debatable or open to interpretation, it is a fact. If you think it's it's otherwise it's because you simply don't understand what you are talking about, which in that case, it's you who need to visit the university of logic.
Amusing. If you actually put as much effort into dealing with your AFK cloaker as you have trying to insult everyone you might actually solve the probelm...but then players like you don't....well...can't do that. So much better to ask CCP to fix your problems. You can't deal with an afk cloaker stupid.
I have no issues with AFK cloaking. And considering you have not and more likely cannot reply to my various points and only just call everyone stupid you are unable to make a cogent argument.
Typical of your kind...when unable to formulate even a vaguely coherent argument you just lash out.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Caitlynn Askyra
Unity Ventures Apocalypse Now.
53
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Posted - 2017.01.16 10:25:10 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:w/e dude, I'll talk to you when you can understand why afk cloaking is as effective as being at the keyboard for what you are trying to achieve by doing it. It's not debatable or open to interpretation, it is a fact. If you think it's it's otherwise it's because you simply don't understand what you are talking about, which in that case, it's you who need to visit the university of logic.
Amusing. If you actually put as much effort into dealing with your AFK cloaker as you have trying to insult everyone you might actually solve the probelm...but then players like you don't....well...can't do that. So much better to ask CCP to fix your problems. You can't deal with an afk cloaker stupid. I have no issues with AFK cloaking. And considering you have not and more likely cannot reply to my various points and only just call everyone stupid you are unable to make a cogent argument. Typical of your kind...when unable to formulate even a vaguely coherent argument you just lash out.
I replied and you ignored my reply so stfu. |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2017.01.16 10:33:29 -
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Caitlynn Askyra wrote:
I replied and you ignored my reply so stfu. I know you don't have issues with afk cloaking, but that doesn't mean there isn't a problem with it.
You did? Where? Which post?
Did you rebut my point about finding out what their TZ is? Trying to determine if they are AFK or not? Or that AFK cloaking is the only counter to the perfect and invulnerable intel provided by local?
I'm not talking some smart ass bullshit you've been posting for the last dozen or so posts, but something other than, "You are stupid."
Nope. Don't see it. Please, go ahead and prove me wrong.
I expect nothing from you as you have nothing. I fully expect you'll just post something like, "You are too stupid to discuss this with," or some other sort of lame ass drivel.
Seriously, just quit or go back to HS.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
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Posted - 2017.01.16 10:36:04 -
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Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Nat Silverguard wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:Nat Silverguard wrote:
ahh, you can do better than that, come on, that's just lame....
I don't need to do better because you are that bad at trolling. nah, you're just geniunely bad, same as how an "AWAY from keyboard" cloaky can make you lose your sh!t and embarras yourself like this. tell you what, as hinted on how long this thread is, it's either you s*ck it up or quit. well, i suggest you quit cause clearly you're not happy anymore and whoever is camping you won't stop anytime soon because of your delicious thread, and i am saying this out of concern cause it's obviously and definitely affecting you in a negative way. so, in lieu of this, can i haz your stuff? Not even listening to you so go and talk to someone else.
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Just Add Water
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Caitlynn Askyra
Unity Ventures Apocalypse Now.
53
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Posted - 2017.01.16 10:44:51 -
[8729] - Quote
Teckos Pech wrote:Caitlynn Askyra wrote:
I replied and you ignored my reply so stfu. I know you don't have issues with afk cloaking, but that doesn't mean there isn't a problem with it.
You did? Where? Which post? Did you rebut my point about finding out what their TZ is? Trying to determine if they are AFK or not? Or that AFK cloaking is the only counter to the perfect and invulnerable intel provided by local? I'm not talking some smart ass bullshit you've been posting for the last dozen or so posts, but something other than, "You are stupid." Nope. Don't see it. Please, go ahead and prove me wrong. I expect nothing from you as you have nothing. I fully expect you'll just post something like, "You are too stupid to discuss this with," or some other sort of lame ass drivel. Seriously, just quit or go back to HS.
AFK cloaking is not the only counter to intel. You can cloak while being at the keyboard and it does EXACTLY THE SAME THING....and that is the ******* problem ok.
The problem isn't even about ******* any of the **** you keep talking about. It's about being at 100% effectiveness when you aren't playing. So there is your ******* proof.
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5747
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Posted - 2017.01.16 10:47:05 -
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Caitlynn Askyra wrote:
AFK cloaking is not the only counter to intel. You can cloak while being at the keyboard and it does EXACTLY THE SAME THING....and that is the ******* problem ok.
The problem isn't even about ******* any of the **** you keep talking about. It's about being at 100% effectiveness when you aren't playing. So there is your ******* proof.
Local is not dependent on being at the keyboard it is always there, always perfect, and totally invulnerable.
Local is 100% effective 100% of the time. But as is typical with your kind of player you don't have a problem with that.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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