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pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.14 21:44:11 -
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As title states,basically since eve online release i got hooked on this game,watched it evolve slowly,but main thing that caught me was the ambient music-green nebula sound track,eve star map that seemed like something out of this world.
So over the years being 13 or so,i tried trial accounts 21d,and this lasted for almost 10years,id be signing with new account after year,then again,but first steps always kept me away from even trying it past trial-tutorial alone would take hours,not to mention getting grasp of all info thrown at you refining,missions,fittings,markets etc.
So early last year after so much time i said heck ill buy 3 months time and learn the game,don't know was it luck or spare time i had but i managed to join some small corp,with wise guy who thought me most basics.
So month in was doing lvl2 missions,mining and this got boring fast-not because it was grinding but because it was boom and boom again and again,be it missions be it mining in 0.5 and getting some a$$ from null sec making into this {secure} space and blowing me up and being gone before any ncp could haul their a$$ before guy would move into hiding and finding next targets.
But being in friendly corp had its benefits and cons-most time i would easily get new barge to go back mine,or just share of profits from previous jobs. Cons came in when people started to drift apart,some main players wouldn't be online for weeks,other were busy doing their stuff,and even if timing was perfect someone wouldn't even bother doing 30 jumps to do fleet missions.
As time went i ventured into my hobby which was exploration-trained all needed skills to fly helios,stratios with t2 stuff,and it was going great at first just venturing into null sec blindly and getting 50-100mill on some days.
at this point i didn't care about isk,most stuff was sold as it came or given away to corpies,just as a gesture for providing this first real experience.
but as time went loses were chasing up fast losing ships over 300mil isk over and over in days time,sometimes in hours. Then i realized the game mechanics-its gate campers,warp bubbles/distributors heck cant even pronounce some stuff,as id fly into some system and suddenly see my corps just flying in the space within seconds without even seeing what the hell happened.
So after almost 3 months expired i was down over 3 bill isk on ships and didnt even knew what should i do,since exploration was my only hobby,not to mention corp was gone in all directions and split. So i quit as well,not only to get disappointing in all the chaos,but even roaming endlessly null sec id listen to hours of horor metallic sounds chewing my ears off for hours to no end.
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.14 21:44:22 -
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So month back i said i will give it another shot like many times before,gathered all my remains to get exploration ship and venture into space,but nothing has changed same terrible groueling music in null space,id imagine in 10y time ccp would realized to play some better tracks even in dead end space,not only in high sec.
So yeah ventured again with all my lvl5 skills for hacking-but wait theres something missing im only flying paper thin egg with 0 defenses and have to look out for every gate,camp local for hours to make enough for my next ship before it goes boom,because null sec is just kill for fun,standing no one gives crap they gonna get someone to haul in more ammo in their alt if need to,still amazed how many ways one can kill someone with single blow and trap,just to show how cool pirate they are.
This said i stopped to play now again,skills are training but im certain given that there are 999999% combinations and skills needed for ships modules im just training whatever i see since i know that ill gonna be blown up again by someone with 1y account who knows more then i do anyway,also forgot to say wiki is great its like bible X100 to get lost in whatever you need to train or want to do.
So Cons: I see in this game on my personal opinion-pvp is not this games motto,its an excuse to say its great,when basically you position your ship and shoot at tiny dot and see cracker go off,if people get off from it i say sallute you might as well have eyesight of minecraft graphics,and even if its nice pvp and someone feels proud to killed someone on 1-2 or because they spent their last 2y stuck to screen training skills to go into combat versus someone who is 4 months into game with 0 any defense or protection,must be an achievement.
Skill training in real time-is great because you dont need to spend time playing game when your busy,so yeah ccp rakes thousands from ppl just leaving their account for 30 days because that skill is super important,and there is nothing to do in the mean time,might as well build power plant to offer electricity at extra cost if you decide to spend time roaming or waiting for bait while doing (insert anything here)
Next is time spent traveling around given this mast map that i couldn't believe at first sight when i seen it its mostly all occupied,seriously given amount of space the systems are so cramped that even being in most remote location someone will stumble upon you 10 in hours time,be it making 50 jumps back home or wherever one is headed to stop and say hello when you least expect it.
But someone might say its sandbox game and free for all to do whatever they want,and i say cuddos to it,specially if you managed to waste 3-4 years of your time and cash waiting for those 100 skills to train.
Since if you are starting this game set aside couple years before you can do something productive and sit in high sec shooting rocks or running grinding missions to get some points to get that nice ship that you want before some no lifer with couple years ahead of you will come in and make your day more miserable.
Now its time for Pros of CCP achievement: game graphics are amazing and music,but it only goes as far as sitting in high sec shooting rocks.
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Celine Sophia Maricadie
Tal-Cel Industry and Salvage LLC
273
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Posted - 2015.01.14 21:51:31 -
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IN B4 LOCK
No appropriate NCQA questions here, just a rant.
I think you're lost and really wanted to post here or perhaps here (sans rant). |
Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc.
849
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Posted - 2015.01.14 21:55:08 -
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It's not the game for you, that's fine.
But quite honestly I don't think you got the game at all |
pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.14 22:01:52 -
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To finish this off completely,CCP is great at figuring out how to make fortune out of this game and players,since only people who make cash is CCP and provide you with minceraft or should say sandbox and rake in cash selling plexes and game time,which is really useful for those 2-4 weeks of waiting time,before you realize you'll need another 10 like that for some another skill that your missing.
Also didn't finish on game graphics while its amazing space,but its useful as sunglasses at night when your watching 10 windows covering your screen that you need to monitor.
I did love video this is eve as well,but in reality its more prepare to waste weeks of time before you will realize how many flaws this game has even compared to lesser mmos with limited options,yet at least in other games you might actually achieve some pleasure from sitting down just for 5-10 min of game play,before you waste 4 years of time figuring out game mechanics.
If this thread gets closed its up to CCP to prove me right,as i said at the beginning it was my personal opinion of the game.
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
266
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Posted - 2015.01.14 22:04:52 -
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You could have easily just said ( to yourself ) this game is just not for me and move on to play something else.
Since you seem incapable of that my I offer you some friendly advice and suggest that this game may not be for you and that you are likely better served by moving forward and trying something else.
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Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
1591
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Posted - 2015.01.14 22:08:12 -
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If you don't enjoy playing a game, don't play it. Games are meant to be fun, if one's not fun for you, there are many others. That's not a reflection on you or the game.
But for any other new players reading this, no you don't need to sit in station for 3 years first, no you're not limited to mining and nothing else for the first several months. If you want an example of why not, go look at what Brave Newbies gets up to and what age characters they have doing that (not a recruitment attempt, I am not affiliated with them). They're not the only ones. |
pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.14 22:12:39 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:You could have easily just said ( to yourself ) this game is just not for me and move on to play something else.
Since you seem incapable of that my I offer you some friendly advice and suggest that this game may not be for you and that you are likely better served by moving forward and trying something else.
Well i didnt insult anyone here,expressed my opinion,about thing called balance which in eve is designed to push limits on game capabilities and mechanics then making it equal to newcomers being in at least range of those who spent time that one,new player wont catch up even if wanted to. |
Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc.
849
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Posted - 2015.01.14 22:14:23 -
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I think you should try a game with a bit more instant gratification
This is not something you'll find in eve.
I'll be the first to say there's a lot of waiting around, however the action that follows is unparalleled in any other game. If your opinion of combat in this game is "you position your ship and shoot at tiny dot and see cracker go off" then you honestly know about 2% about the combat in this game.
The other typical argument: "omg so many skillpoints more than me", I'm not even going to bother to explain why this is flawed since it's been explained over and over again and the mentality from a them park mmo player such as yourself is adamant against change and refuse to accept the reality of the situation.
Finally, to call people who've played this game a long time "no-lifers" is absolutely hilarious to me. This game actively encourages you to take breaks with it's skill training system, it's just a testament to CCP's consistency and the depth of the game that people have dedicated over 10 years without breaking their skill training.
You don't get this game, you like the idea about being good at this game, but you will never be because of your attitude. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
266
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Posted - 2015.01.14 22:15:47 -
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:To finish this off completely,CCP is great at figuring out how to make fortune out of this game and players,since only people who make cash is CCP and provide you with minceraft or should say sandbox and rake in cash selling plexes and game time,which is really useful for those 2-4 weeks of waiting time,before you realize you'll need another 10 like that for some another skill that your missing.
You clearly do not understand even the basics of this game. It sounds like you spent real life money to buy PLEX so that you could get isk fast and buy internet space ships that your general lack of understanding of game mechanics should have told anyone that you would loose and violated the most basic rule of eve which is don't undock in what you can't comfortably afford to loose.
You lost your ships due to your ignorance. I am not speaking down to you hear. Clearly any new player would be ignorant and it takes experience to gain knowledge. So it's ok you are supposed to have a general lack of knowledge early on in this game. However instead of taking the time to learn the game as a player you thought that you could buy your way into this game like other games that are pay to win.
This is eve you can buy a 10 year old toon with an insane amount of skill points and buy PLEX to get yourself insanely expensive internet spaceships yet if you don't know what you are doing you will still loose them. Clearly you assumed that skill points and expensive ships would make up for your general lack of game knowledge and clearly you have learned that is not the case.
However instead of realizing that you choose the sour grape theory. So along those lines I say you are correct sir these grapes are sour go back to WoW.
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.14 22:23:08 -
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote:You could have easily just said ( to yourself ) this game is just not for me and move on to play something else.
Since you seem incapable of that my I offer you some friendly advice and suggest that this game may not be for you and that you are likely better served by moving forward and trying something else.
Well i didnt insult anyone here,expressed my opinion,about thing called balance which in eve is designed to push limits on game capabilities and mechanics then making it equal to newcomers being in at least range of those who spent time that one,new player wont catch up even if wanted to. Skill points will not save you from ignorance. Go buy a high skill point toon and come back and try this game. You will still suck. Any new player is going to suck at this game for a good long while until they get good. This game is deep and complex and takes a long time to get good at. I've been playing for coming up on 7 years and am not good at it.
This game is not about balance it's about gaining advantage. I can't say this enough if you want balance go play WoW. If you want to play eve get used to the fact that you suck and if you want to not suck it is going to take a long time and a lot of learning and no amount of skill points or officer mods or faction ships will change that. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
4525
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Posted - 2015.01.14 22:24:15 -
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Reads to me like you joined the wrong corp.
In EVE you have to either create content, or find it. If you are bored, it is your own fault. It is a lot easier to create or find content with the help of others, as part of an active corp.
Example: Brave Newbies Inc. throws members in inexpensive basic ships and fits. They win and lose, but always have fun. |
pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.14 22:34:29 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:To finish this off completely,CCP is great at figuring out how to make fortune out of this game and players,since only people who make cash is CCP and provide you with minceraft or should say sandbox and rake in cash selling plexes and game time,which is really useful for those 2-4 weeks of waiting time,before you realize you'll need another 10 like that for some another skill that your missing.
You clearly do not understand even the basics of this game. It sounds like you spent real life money to buy PLEX so that you could get isk fast and buy internet space ships that your general lack of understanding of game mechanics should have told anyone that you would loose and violated the most basic rule of eve which is don't undock in what you can't comfortably afford to loose. You lost your ships due to your ignorance. I am not speaking down to you hear. Clearly any new player would be ignorant and it takes experience to gain knowledge. So it's ok you are supposed to have a general lack of knowledge early on in this game. However instead of taking the time to learn the game as a player you thought that you could buy your way into this game like other games that are pay to win. This is eve you can buy a 10 year old toon with an insane amount of skill points and buy PLEX to get yourself insanely expensive internet spaceships yet if you don't know what you are doing you will still loose them. Clearly you assumed that skill points and expensive ships would make up for your general lack of game knowledge and clearly you have learned that is not the case. However instead of realizing that you choose the sour grape theory. So along those lines I say you are correct sir these grapes are sour go back to WoW.
Never played wow and hate the game,lineage2 was that i played many years ago. I understand that this game is hardcore and is not for everyone. But common i showed example of wanting to do simple trade of exploration-yet detail that goes into single mission is simply insane,you need to scan down system you jump into-make sure amount of active players/kills and then do it over again,not to mention reaching next gate,and this comes down to doing it 30times if lucky to get to some spot,add all the stategy and time needed to do it,and you have a full time job,only trouble is i have one already,and risking every time leaving sation in low sec and not knowing whats waiting you at the gate or the next one is like solwing puzzle of 1000 pieces in short amount of time one decides to spend on game.
And while its true that one doesnt need 3y to spend on training skills,but its 3 months before anything decent can be flied and in group.since its eve you might take on one player minute later there's 3 taking on you.As said i dont thrive on cracker explosions from some dot on screen that i cant even see,flying in circles.
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Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc.
850
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Posted - 2015.01.14 22:38:56 -
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does that effort and then eventual reward not give you a sense of achievement? A rush of excitement?
I know when I'm carrying billions in loot and I make it out alive in hostile space that's one of the best feelings in the world.
You can absolutely know what's waiting at a gate, there's something called d-scan and tactical bookmarks.
Honestly the more you post the more you reveal that you truly have 0 idea how to play this game. |
Velicitia
XS Tech
2759
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Posted - 2015.01.14 22:39:19 -
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote:pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:To finish this off completely,CCP is great at figuring out how to make fortune out of this game and players,since only people who make cash is CCP and provide you with minceraft or should say sandbox and rake in cash selling plexes and game time,which is really useful for those 2-4 weeks of waiting time,before you realize you'll need another 10 like that for some another skill that your missing.
You clearly do not understand even the basics of this game. It sounds like you spent real life money to buy PLEX so that you could get isk fast and buy internet space ships that your general lack of understanding of game mechanics should have told anyone that you would loose and violated the most basic rule of eve which is don't undock in what you can't comfortably afford to loose. You lost your ships due to your ignorance. I am not speaking down to you hear. Clearly any new player would be ignorant and it takes experience to gain knowledge. So it's ok you are supposed to have a general lack of knowledge early on in this game. However instead of taking the time to learn the game as a player you thought that you could buy your way into this game like other games that are pay to win. This is eve you can buy a 10 year old toon with an insane amount of skill points and buy PLEX to get yourself insanely expensive internet spaceships yet if you don't know what you are doing you will still loose them. Clearly you assumed that skill points and expensive ships would make up for your general lack of game knowledge and clearly you have learned that is not the case. However instead of realizing that you choose the sour grape theory. So along those lines I say you are correct sir these grapes are sour go back to WoW. Never played wow and hate the game,lineage2 was that i played many years ago. I understand that this game is hardcore and is not for everyone. But common i showed example of wanting to do simple trade of exploration-yet detail that goes into single mission is simply insane,you need to scan down system you jump into-make sure amount of active players/kills and then do it over again,not to mention reaching next gate,and this comes down to doing it 30times if lucky to get to some spot,add all the stategy and time needed to do it,and you have a full time job,only trouble is i have one already,and risking every time leaving sation in low sec and not knowing whats waiting you at the gate or the next one is like solwing puzzle of 1000 pieces in short amount of time one decides to spend on game. And while its true that one doesnt need 3y to spend on training skills,but its 3 months before anything decent can be flied and in group.since its eve you might take on one player minute later there's 3 taking on you.As said i dont thrive on cracker explosions from some dot on screen that i cant even see,flying in circles.
If in hisec, you don't have to screw with all that system checking (assuming you're not at war).
As for one guy becoming 3 ... well, that's kind of eve in a nutshell - the best ship is friendship.
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.14 22:48:38 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote:You could have easily just said ( to yourself ) this game is just not for me and move on to play something else.
Since you seem incapable of that my I offer you some friendly advice and suggest that this game may not be for you and that you are likely better served by moving forward and trying something else.
Well i didnt insult anyone here,expressed my opinion,about thing called balance which in eve is designed to push limits on game capabilities and mechanics then making it equal to newcomers being in at least range of those who spent time that one,new player wont catch up even if wanted to. Skill points will not save you from ignorance. Go buy a high skill point toon and come back and try this game. You will still suck. Any new player is going to suck at this game for a good long while until they get good. This game is deep and complex and takes a long time to get good at. I've been playing for coming up on 7 years and am not good at it. This game is not about balance it's about gaining advantage. I can't say this enough if you want balance go play WoW. If you want to play eve get used to the fact that you suck and if you want to not suck it is going to take a long time and a lot of learning and no amount of skill points or officer mods or faction ships will change that. It was correct i did buy plex after training my skills for 3 months and doing exploration in helios,and well stratios still can be killed in a blink just by jumping in some camp gate with couple ships to hold you long enough to make you puff. you say you spent 7 years,now imagine some new player reading this and his thoughts.
Do you think i didnt know that being killed is part of game.i could of played for 7 months in 0.5+ looting and exploring some bread crumbs and maybe doing some missions on the side or shooting rocks with corp,but i choose to go for risk and thats what i got,getting killed isnt end of everything,but having such wast spaces and yet every corner occupied is like playing in a pot ,where eventually sand box has its walls and you have to come back in one way or another.
As i imagine most players here are pvp biased,so this is your bread and crumbs,since as you said there is only advantage that is very accurate when person like you says 7 years and still learning,if ccp made a sticky on their front page id imagine this game would change in weeks time,in people joining and leaving it,due to advatnages that come out when one spents almost half year just grinding on skill time. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
266
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Posted - 2015.01.14 22:51:32 -
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:
Never played wow and hate the game,lineage2 was that i played many years ago. I understand that this game is hardcore and is not for everyone. But common i showed example of wanting to do simple trade of exploration-yet detail that goes into single mission is simply insane,you need to scan down system you jump into-make sure amount of active players/kills and then do it over again,not to mention reaching next gate,and this comes down to doing it 30times if lucky to get to some spot,add all the stategy and time needed to do it,and you have a full time job,only trouble is i have one already,and risking every time leaving sation in low sec and not knowing whats waiting you at the gate or the next one is like solwing puzzle of 1000 pieces in short amount of time one decides to spend on game.
And while its true that one doesnt need 3y to spend on training skills,but its 3 months before anything decent can be flied and in group.since its eve you might take on one player minute later there's 3 taking on you.As said i dont thrive on cracker explosions from some dot on screen that i cant even see,flying in circles.
If you haven't played WoW then maybe you should try. I think it would be to your liking.
A 3 month old toon has more than enough skills for them to be able to do what their game knowledge allows them to do. You keep posting here how you would like time and money to replace you general lack of skill and knowledge and it just won't happen. You need experience. Waiting 3 months for skills to train before you try something and then figuring out that you still don't know how to do it is your problem.
Instead of trying to learn the game you keep trying to do stuff that you don't have the personal skills to do and then crying that this game is too hard.
Why are you still here in the forums crying? Either put your time in and learn the game or don't but stop telling me how your are sitting around waiting for skills to train and somehow can't understand why you don't know how to play the game. People who are good at this game just "do" and then learn. They don't not "do" and then cry. |
J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5444
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Posted - 2015.01.14 22:53:55 -
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In before lock
* Rant * Non constructive post * Quit posting outside OOPE
What ever
See you, don't let the door hit you in your ass.
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Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc.
850
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Posted - 2015.01.14 22:54:13 -
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You seem to want to have a button that turns this into a single player game at your convenience.
That's not how this game works: go play something else.
Again: skillpoints stop mattering once you get the basic ones for the ship you want to fly. All skillpoints do after a certain point is grant VARIETY. Top sp char has 250m+, in a T1 frigate only about 4million actually affect the ship and 3million of that only improved the ship by less than 10%.
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5444
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Posted - 2015.01.14 23:01:42 -
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I NOW really hate the rule that we have to play nice to people on the forum.
It prevents me from saying what I truely think about this person.
So:
In a nutshell, pick any bad thought about this person you can think...multiply it by 100
And that is just becuase...as usual...instead of just saying: Okay, this might not be the game for me...he goes full emo-rage and blame the game.
Bunch of dumbasses live around PC-gaming community.
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.14 23:04:26 -
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Nice seeing everyone ganging just like in eve itself. I pointed out flaws and everyone's response is its my own fault
maybe i should straight away trained to be rat sitting in bomber on some relic site and killing every ship that turns in . |
J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5444
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Posted - 2015.01.14 23:04:38 -
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote:You could have easily just said ( to yourself ) this game is just not for me and move on to play something else.
Since you seem incapable of that my I offer you some friendly advice and suggest that this game may not be for you and that you are likely better served by moving forward and trying something else.
Well i didnt insult anyone here,expressed my opinion,about thing called balance which in eve is designed to push limits on game capabilities and mechanics then making it equal to newcomers being in at least range of those who spent time that one,new player wont catch up even if wanted to.
HAHAHAHAHAAHHA
You are SO wrong here.
A new player can be very competitive in a frigate PvP ship in under a month compared to a veteran.
But as you lack ANY imagination and braincells to see how EVE actually works, I'm not even going to waste my time trying to educate a chimp.
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5444
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Posted - 2015.01.14 23:07:24 -
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:Nice seeing everyone ganging just like in eve itself. I pointed out flaws and everyone's response is its my own fault maybe i should straight away trained to be rat sitting in bomber on some relic site and killing every ship that turns in .
It's cause:
* You are wrong on 99% of the things you mention (hell, I agre that there will be waiting on things from time to time, but all others are just wrong)
* You clearly lack the understanding, even after "observing" EVE for 10 years, to know how it works.
* You lack the imagination to see how you can be succesful, even as a new player.
* You expect EVE to be instant I-win-gratification. Which EVE is the exact opposite, EVE is about stategics and planning. EVE is more like a good game of chess, it takes time to win.
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
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Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc.
850
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Posted - 2015.01.14 23:07:46 -
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:Nice seeing everyone ganging just like in eve itself. I pointed out flaws and everyone's response is its my own fault maybe i should straight away trained to be rat sitting in bomber on some relic site and killing every ship that turns in .
If you actually had a real flaw to pick on, but you don't.
Not saying EVE doesn't have any flaws (oh there are plenty), but your opinion of a "flaw" can be easily circumvented if you knew anything about the game. |
J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5444
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Posted - 2015.01.14 23:12:24 -
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:since its eve you might take on one player minute later there's 3 taking on you
He, bright light, it's a MMO
EMM EMM OOO
it's stands for
Massive Multiplayer Online
Multiplayer
Let's split that up
Multi Player
Multi - Mutiple, as in more then one.
Player - People who play the game
Ergo, multiplayer, more then one people play the game at the same time.
No ****, sherlock, people play together in a multiplayer
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.14 23:12:35 -
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J'Poll wrote:pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote:You could have easily just said ( to yourself ) this game is just not for me and move on to play something else.
Since you seem incapable of that my I offer you some friendly advice and suggest that this game may not be for you and that you are likely better served by moving forward and trying something else.
Well i didnt insult anyone here,expressed my opinion,about thing called balance which in eve is designed to push limits on game capabilities and mechanics then making it equal to newcomers being in at least range of those who spent time that one,new player wont catch up even if wanted to. HAHAHAHAHAAHHA You are SO wrong here. A new player can be very competitive in a frigate PvP ship in under a month compared to a veteran. But as you lack ANY imagination and braincells to see how EVE actually works, I'm not even going to waste my time trying to educate a chimp.
Yeah very mature of you,call me what you want,im not knocking my head into keyboard while typing,but i get your message if your not into pvp then go ***** yourself,since mining and exploration,missions is just to eventually make you into pvp loon. Must missed a part about this game where **** all content and start training for killing.Wonder why even there are mining and crappy missions added,since it seems learn pvp or gtfout |
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote: It was correct i did buy plex after training my skills for 3 months and doing exploration in helios,and well stratios still can be killed in a blink just by jumping in some camp gate with couple ships to hold you long enough to make you puff. you say you spent 7 years,now imagine some new player reading this and his thoughts. ].
Simple:
Rule 1: Don't fly what you can't afford to lose
New player broke rule 1...his fault.
His choice to dump RL money into the game to try find the I-win button.
And most of all, new player should take the loss as learning experience on how to spot a gatecamp other then being a lemming and jumping right into it.
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Tsukino Stareine
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Some people have never touched pvp in their entire eve career.
Honestly just stop embarrassing yourself.
The worst thing about you is that you know almost NOTHING about this game, yet act like you do. |
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:J'Poll wrote:pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote:You could have easily just said ( to yourself ) this game is just not for me and move on to play something else.
Since you seem incapable of that my I offer you some friendly advice and suggest that this game may not be for you and that you are likely better served by moving forward and trying something else.
Well i didnt insult anyone here,expressed my opinion,about thing called balance which in eve is designed to push limits on game capabilities and mechanics then making it equal to newcomers being in at least range of those who spent time that one,new player wont catch up even if wanted to. HAHAHAHAHAAHHA You are SO wrong here. A new player can be very competitive in a frigate PvP ship in under a month compared to a veteran. But as you lack ANY imagination and braincells to see how EVE actually works, I'm not even going to waste my time trying to educate a chimp. Yeah very mature of you,call me what you want,im not knocking my head into keyboard while typing,but i get your message if your not into pvp then go ***** yourself,since mining and exploration,missions is just to eventually make you into pvp loon. Must missed a part about this game where **** all content and start training for killing.Wonder why even there are mining and crappy missions added,since it seems learn pvp or gtfout
hint --> "shooting other people" (and, by proxy, politics) is a BIG content generator here.
Yes, the trailers and books, and to some degree the stories and other random stuff (Caroline's Star) and "new features" (Wormholes, Incursions, etc) add content ...
.. but the majority of content is created by your interactions with your fellow players (or enemy players, as the case may be).
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:Some people have never touched pvp in their entire eve career.
This.
The author of one of the best guides for New Players, has never done any PvP in EVE so far (over 8 years old in game).
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Ooh and OP, rather then waiting for a skill to finish before you try something.
Why not start trying while the skill is training.
Most things in EVE (very very few exceptions apply) can be tried within just a couple of hours of training. Sure, you don't be uber-efficient, but that comes with time...as does personal experience and skill in the game...which then match your ability to do stuff.
As I started to dabble in PvP, I had very low skills (as I started as a miner)... So, I started with frigate and poorly fitted cruiser...died a lot. But with every death, I learned how PvP worked..and as my SP grew, I could have more and better options to field in a fight.
SP and skills go hand in hand, if you do it properly. By the time you have more SP to do more things, you also have more skills and knowledge to perform that activity better / quicker / faster / safer...
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:Nice seeing everyone ganging just like in eve itself. I pointed out flaws and everyone's response is its my own fault maybe i should straight away trained to be rat sitting in bomber on some relic site and killing every ship that turns in .
The only flaw you have pointed out:
YOURSELF.
And, heads up, CCP hasn't found any way to patch stupidity or lazy people out of the game. And I doubt they ever will.
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:J'Poll wrote:pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote:You could have easily just said ( to yourself ) this game is just not for me and move on to play something else.
Since you seem incapable of that my I offer you some friendly advice and suggest that this game may not be for you and that you are likely better served by moving forward and trying something else.
Well i didnt insult anyone here,expressed my opinion,about thing called balance which in eve is designed to push limits on game capabilities and mechanics then making it equal to newcomers being in at least range of those who spent time that one,new player wont catch up even if wanted to. HAHAHAHAHAAHHA You are SO wrong here. A new player can be very competitive in a frigate PvP ship in under a month compared to a veteran. But as you lack ANY imagination and braincells to see how EVE actually works, I'm not even going to waste my time trying to educate a chimp. Yeah very mature of you,call me what you want,im not knocking my head into keyboard while typing,but i get your message if your not into pvp then go ***** yourself,since mining and exploration,missions is just to eventually make you into pvp loon. Must missed a part about this game where **** all content and start training for killing.Wonder why even there are mining and crappy missions added,since it seems learn pvp or gtfout
Hmz.
Funny that you say that..
My first 6 months or so...pure miner. The most pacifist miner actually.
But, I did understand I was a miner...in a PvP game, and thus always a possible target.
Then, I personally learned, that I like PvP more then mining so I changed focus. But I still understand, as do many others, that you can do anything you want. With the proper skills (as a player, not character skillpoints), knowledge and planning.
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New players can do just fine in EVE given they have the right "can do" attitude, patience, intellect and the will to put in effort to learn and think before they do something stupid. EVE doesn't have a "limited player base" because it scares away its customers, it's limited because they don't try to appeal to "everyone". Those people weren't their customers to begin with.
The type of people they're going for are capable of thinking for themselves and being able to see opportunities and solutions, not problems. So many people have issues with EVE and quit it, that's fine. Deal with it, HTFU and move on.
p.s. if you wanted a mature discussion you should have started with a question or at least a dialog. Soap boxing like you're doing is a one way form of interaction, and thus you get the replies you deserve. |
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Don't sweat it Pinky
Everyone faces rough times in this game at some point, or even regularly. It's a rough place, as you mentioned, with a real tough kearning curve and unforgiving community. Even when they're trying to "help".
During these rough times, losses, derps and embarassments many just keep going and bounce back, taking it on the chin (I lost 4b in two days from derping the other week) because we enjoy the rest of the game so much, or see the potential, that we don't care about the bumps along the way.
Looking in from the outside, the videos, the stories all make EVE look like an exciting and beautiful place. And she is, but she'll murder you as quick as f*ck you. And that's not always evident while spectating. Not every game is for every person and EVE's no different.
Last night one of my alts killed a two-week old player. He'd found his way into a wormhole already and was busy hacking a relic site. Character age won't stop me killing someone in wormhole space though, so I did. But as usual I sent off a friendly message afterward with advice and tips, along with a few million ISK to soften his loss and keep him excited about wormholes. His reply was solid gold:
"It's all good. This is my second week of playing EVE but I was astonished at how slow I reacted to that situation. I mean, I've mentally rehearsed what I was supposed to do, but obviously it didn't happen. Actually, I guess that was my first pvp experience, and I hadn't seen a soul in a few hours, so maybe I can forgive my incompetence.
Anyway, thanks for the very kind message and advice (and the isk, which I don't deserve but gladly accept). I know the risk of exploring wormholes, and don't plan to stop any time soon!"
That guy gets EVE already and it's the game for him. Not everyone does or will though, and there's no shame if you don't like it.
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Tsukino Stareine
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Posted - 2015.01.14 23:36:59 -
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^ truth spoken above.
Instead of questioning WHY you failed, you assume you know everything and blame the game for your shortcomings.
If you came into this forum asking a question and then nobody could give you a decent answer, then you have something to complain about. |
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Ok maybe i came out harsh on CCP,topic says 10 years,and yes 10 years i was watching this game,didn't play at the time as i wasnt mature enough to get around it,played other games and it wasn't easier every mmo comes with cost.as for dropping 2 plex into account,its my cash i earned it,i lost it,its least of the lose i ever had in my life to cry over.
point being when i signed up for real i knew direction i want to go = exploration
so yeah i did grind all needed skills drones etc hacks lvls 5,top shields etc.
had a notebook for every item,skill,names,things to know,and yeah i messed up thinking that getting top grade exploration ship im safe.
Thing is im not into pvp action nor active member when it comes to game time,you realize that when you get full time job and real life problems,so while i managed to pull off 3 months of grind daily and learning from whoever thought me,its not like i can sit all day playing.As sometimes i get 1-2h in a week to relax and enjoy my free time,but when you get hit over and over,one day you make isk,next day you spend it on another ship to start over and hope you'll make it,just to lose it again is time lost playing game with huge risk and little reward. |
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Erica Dusette wrote:Last night one of my alts killed a two-week old player. He'd found his way into a wormhole already and was busy hacking a relic site. Character age won't stop me killing someone in wormhole space though, so I did. But as usual I sent off a friendly message afterward with advice and tips, along with a few million ISK to soften his loss and keep him excited about wormholes. His reply was solid gold:
Did you give him 4 million? |
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Gregor Parud wrote:Erica Dusette wrote:Last night one of my alts killed a two-week old player. He'd found his way into a wormhole already and was busy hacking a relic site. Character age won't stop me killing someone in wormhole space though, so I did. But as usual I sent off a friendly message afterward with advice and tips, along with a few million ISK to soften his loss and keep him excited about wormholes. His reply was solid gold: Did you give him 4 million? 4.5m
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Tsukino Stareine
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Many people have full time jobs and families and the little time they have they make the most of.
It's your own fault if you cannot make any advancement when you lose what you earn every time you play, that just shows you don't learn from your mistakes. |
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky
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Off topic question how can two week player enter WH and hack it since sleepers spawn instantly and their range is nothing short of 60km or so im missing something here ?
And for starters i wanted to start a discussion,but me being me came out as an insult to most here.
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Erica Dusette wrote:Gregor Parud wrote:Erica Dusette wrote:Last night one of my alts killed a two-week old player. He'd found his way into a wormhole already and was busy hacking a relic site. Character age won't stop me killing someone in wormhole space though, so I did. But as usual I sent off a friendly message afterward with advice and tips, along with a few million ISK to soften his loss and keep him excited about wormholes. His reply was solid gold: Did you give him 4 million? 4.5m
I'm in Rookie help a lot, trying to save newbies from the terribleness of grinding and ****** advice. He talked about it as it happened :) |
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Posted - 2015.01.14 23:47:42 -
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:Off topic question how can two week player enter WH and hack it since sleepers spawn instantly and their range is nothing short of 60km or so im missing something here ?
And for starters i wanted to start a discussion,but me being me came out as an insult to most here.
Wormholes now contain nullsec-style sites too that you can hack that contain no sleepers.
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Erica Dusette
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Posted - 2015.01.14 23:48:42 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:Erica Dusette wrote:Gregor Parud wrote:Erica Dusette wrote:Last night one of my alts killed a two-week old player. He'd found his way into a wormhole already and was busy hacking a relic site. Character age won't stop me killing someone in wormhole space though, so I did. But as usual I sent off a friendly message afterward with advice and tips, along with a few million ISK to soften his loss and keep him excited about wormholes. His reply was solid gold: Did you give him 4 million? 4.5m I'm in Rookie help a lot, trying to save newbies from the terribleness of grinding and ****** advice. He talked about it as it happened :) Aww feel good moment right there
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J'Poll
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Posted - 2015.01.14 23:51:28 -
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:Ok maybe i came out harsh on CCP,topic says 10 years,and yes 10 years i was watching this game,didn't play at the time as i wasnt mature enough to get around it,played other games and it wasn't easier every mmo comes with cost.as for dropping 2 plex into account,its my cash i earned it,i lost it,its least of the lose i ever had in my life to cry over.
point being when i signed up for real i knew direction i want to go = exploration
so yeah i did grind all needed skills drones etc hacks lvls 5,top shields etc.
had a notebook for every item,skill,names,things to know,and yeah i messed up thinking that getting top grade exploration ship im safe.
Thing is im not into pvp action nor active member when it comes to game time,you realize that when you get full time job and real life problems,so while i managed to pull off 3 months of grind daily and learning from whoever thought me,its not like i can sit all day playing.As sometimes i get 1-2h in a week to relax and enjoy my free time,but when you get hit over and over,one day you make isk,next day you spend it on another ship to start over and hope you'll make it,just to lose it again is time lost playing game with huge risk and little reward.
I have a busy real life, hell had that since I started 4.5 years ago. Sometimes it's very busy that I can't even log in for weeks, other times I have a bit more time and can log in daily for a couple of hours.
And that's why I love EVE...it's there when you want it. You log in, undock and have fun with what ever you are doing.
Sure, it will sometimes suck (I lost a Tayra (then Badger Mark II) with 4 PLEX in it in Jita when I was new - less then 3 months in). Was I mad...damn right I was. Did I stop playing...sure, for a day or 2.
Then I thought, **** it...it's a lesson (an expensive one though) about what NOT to do. Now, let's continue and adjust my sails and keep going.
I made numerous mistakes after that...learned from every single one of them.
As stated, my first 6 or so months, I was a complete anti-PvP player as you seem to be. And that is perfectly possible, but you have to keep in mind, others aren't like that, and that is THEIR choice.
You can co-exist perfectly fine with them, with some clever thinking and good preperation.
You jumped into null-sec, which is lawless space...and expected it to be all friendly? That is a mistake from your part.
But, you can easily by some planning, minimize the risks involved with null-sec (covert cloak, tactical bookmarks, "reading" the map). But you can never fully eliminate losses and PvP in EVE all together, this includes high-sec too.
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Tsukino Stareine
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Posted - 2015.01.14 23:52:26 -
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:Off topic question how can two week player enter WH and hack it since sleepers spawn instantly and their range is nothing short of 60km or so im missing something here ?
And for starters i wanted to start a discussion,but me being me came out as an insult to most here.
Now we're getting somewhere, you're asking relevant questions.
Someone has answered this one already, however this may be your path to redemption if you keep this up. |
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Posted - 2015.01.14 23:59:17 -
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:Off topic question how can two week player enter WH and hack it since sleepers spawn instantly and their range is nothing short of 60km or so im missing something here ?
And for starters i wanted to start a discussion,but me being me came out as an insult to most here.
Here, have your first like.
This is what we were talking about.
You ask a good question, that we can (and already have) answered for you.
Keep asking questions like this and learn from your mistakes in game + what ever information you can gather from asking questions if you don't know how somethings works / why something happened.
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Tau Cabalander
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:00:13 -
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This thread could have gone a better, more constructive route.
For example, one of my favourites: Am I too stupid to play EVE?
Notice how the OP in that thread realizes it is a deficiency in himself, and asks for help, and gets a lot of it. |
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Tau Cabalander wrote:This thread could have gone a better, more constructive route. For example, one of my favourites: Am I too stupid to play EVE?Notice how the OP in that thread realizes it is a deficiency in himself, and asks for help, and gets a lot of it.
Cause of complete different "tone" and attitude by the OPs of both threads.
Wow, a mid 2013 thread, has it been THAT long....
Damn, I'm getting to old for this ****.
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Tau Cabalander
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:02:42 -
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:Off topic question how can two week player enter WH and hack it since sleepers spawn instantly and their range is nothing short of 60km or so im missing something here ?
And for starters i wanted to start a discussion,but me being me came out as an insult to most here.
I went into w-space, a C2 to be precise, at roughly month 2. I then lived there for the next 2.75 years, at which point we were living in a C5 and doing C5 and C6 sites with capital escalations. We left because we got so good at it that it was boring.
There is a Wormholes forum you should investigate. |
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:03:47 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:Off topic question how can two week player enter WH and hack it since sleepers spawn instantly and their range is nothing short of 60km or so im missing something here ?
And for starters i wanted to start a discussion,but me being me came out as an insult to most here.
Now we're getting somewhere, you're asking relevant questions. Someone has answered this one already, however this may be your path to redemption if you keep this up.
Well did know that WH have sites,but every i visited it was seconds before warp out or get blown up from huge distances,so dunno is it in high sec that one can find these.
as for pvp,how the hell can anyone pvp in helios or startios,when your on warp lock and taking damage-drones could help but not if person has enough dps to haul your body out before his cap runs out.
My tactics was simple warp until empty system found with right anomalies do job move on,if not empty wait or move on. but given amount needed to cover such distances requires enormous preparations to do it properly, since its usually 20 jumps when leaving high sec to do search and find good spot.And risks occur when theres 1-2 ppl and you find site and try to gamble on it.
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:05:04 -
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:Off topic question how can two week player enter WH and hack it since sleepers spawn instantly and their range is nothing short of 60km or so im missing something here ?
And for starters i wanted to start a discussion,but me being me came out as an insult to most here.
There are sites with no rats.
I think I missed the part about why I care what you think.....none of it is based in fact, just opinion.
"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
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Tsukino Stareine
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:06:13 -
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wormholes have sites that also appear in null sec, these do not have sleepers. |
Tau Cabalander
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:07:47 -
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:Well did know that WH have sites,but every i visited it was seconds before warp out or get blown up from huge distances,so dunno is it in high sec that one can find these. Learn about w-space first.
Example: system classes, wormhole limits / durations / connections, system regions, "statics", "randoms", etc.
Try a class 1 (C1) system in a cruiser or battlecruiser.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wormholes https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/List_of_All_W-Space_Systems http://www.ellatha.com/eve/wormholelist.asp http://www.ellatha.com/eve/WormholeSystemslist.asp http://staticmapper.com/ |
pinkiaiiiLT pinky
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J'Poll wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:This thread could have gone a better, more constructive route. For example, one of my favourites: Am I too stupid to play EVE?Notice how the OP in that thread realizes it is a deficiency in himself, and asks for help, and gets a lot of it. Cause of complete different "tone" and attitude by the OPs of both threads. Wow, a mid 2013 thread, has it been THAT long.... Damn, I'm getting to old for this ****. Now, if only we would have a way other then the watchlist, to see if people like that actually still play. was going to ask same q maybe im just too stupid to play the game,i know i dont have leadership skills in real life and make poor decisions in general,so could be me in a nutshell that is actually problem to the game,well profit for others |
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:Off topic question how can two week player enter WH and hack it since sleepers spawn instantly and their range is nothing short of 60km or so im missing something here ?
And for starters i wanted to start a discussion,but me being me came out as an insult to most here.
Now we're getting somewhere, you're asking relevant questions. Someone has answered this one already, however this may be your path to redemption if you keep this up. Well did know that WH have sites,but every i visited it was seconds before warp out or get blown up from huge distances,so dunno is it in high sec that one can find these. as for pvp,how the hell can anyone pvp in helios or startios,when your on warp lock and taking damage-drones could help but not if person has enough dps to haul your body out before his cap runs out. My tactics was simple warp until empty system found with right anomalies do job move on,if not empty wait or move on. but given amount needed to cover such distances requires enormous preparations to do it properly, since its usually 20 jumps when leaving high sec to do search and find good spot.And risks occur when theres 1-2 ppl and you find site and try to gamble on it.
Yes, there are wormholes with "null" sites that are accesible through high-sec.
As for the PvP question:
Well, ships are tools. As yours isn't designed for PvP, try to avoid it.
This can be done to a great extend by using your D-scan when there are people in local (or always in a WH as local is of no help there).
If you see a ship on there that you don't like or combat probes...GTFO time. Your defense, not being there where the enemy is. Be gone before he can get you.
Also, when ever you jump into a system in low-sec / null-sec...ALWAYS hold your gate-cloak (lasts 60 sec, guys correct me if I"m wrong) and D-scan if there are people in system.
Do a full 360 - 14.3 AU D-scan for ships (and control towers). This, if they are in range and not in a cloaky / recon, gives you an idea what they are flying and thus could give you an idea what they are up to.
Also, for low-sec and null-sec...I highly recommend to learn how to use Dotlan.
It can show number of ship and pod kills in last hour / 24h but also amount of NPC kills.
High ship/pod kills means it's a PvP active system High npc kills means lots of people live / rat in that system.
If you don't want to shoot others, avoid them.
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:14:04 -
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:J'Poll wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:This thread could have gone a better, more constructive route. For example, one of my favourites: Am I too stupid to play EVE?Notice how the OP in that thread realizes it is a deficiency in himself, and asks for help, and gets a lot of it. Cause of complete different "tone" and attitude by the OPs of both threads. Wow, a mid 2013 thread, has it been THAT long.... Damn, I'm getting to old for this ****. Now, if only we would have a way other then the watchlist, to see if people like that actually still play. was going to ask same q maybe im just too stupid to play the game,i know i dont have leadership skills in real life and make poor decisions in general,so could be me in a nutshell that is actually problem to the game,well profit for others
I'm don't have much leadership skills in real life either. And a bad temper (both in real life aswel as in the game, can give you names of people to confirm the latter)
And we all make poor decisions in real life. No person in the world will be able to say at the end of their life that they didn't regret a single decision they made in their life. Hell, I'm not even 30 and can tell you, I do need 2 hands to list them already.
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:19:52 -
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so what does one do when he warps into null sec and thers already hostiles km away from you ? this catches me most times-mostly always,as either i get decloacked or pinned down-dunno how they manage it so fast.
No way before i started eve i practised a lot on exploration on trials,and that got me hooked,since it seems boring to most but being alone in system and hacking away beats all the stress,that is if you make it alive. |
Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc.
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:23:20 -
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covert ops cloaks lets you warp while cloaked.
find a ship that can fit one |
J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:29:20 -
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:so what does one do when he warps into null sec and thers already hostiles km away from you ? this catches me most times-mostly always,as either i get decloacked or pinned down-dunno how they manage it so fast.
No way before i started eve i practised a lot on exploration on trials,and that got me hooked,since it seems boring to most but being alone in system and hacking away beats all the stress,that is if you make it alive.
Well, first thing.
Learn, as said, how to read the in game or Dotlan map and predict where gatecamps are. And then avoid using those systems. Gatecamps usually are set up on so called pipes, where there is a singular chain of systems that people MUST take to get from one side to another. Or on high-traffic gates between high-sec and low-sec / high-sec and null-sec / low-sec and null-sec.
Even then, you won't always pick them out from the map for different reasons (too new to show on the maps for instance).
What your best course of actions are:
A. HOLD cloak...Really, it's a 60 second invulnerablity timer you have as long as you do NOTHING.
Use those 60 seconds to access your situation. Who is with you on grid, how many of are there and what are they flying (the latter, that knowledge comes with time).
B. In null-sec, do you see a bubble or a interdictor / HIC on grid yes or no
Now, with that knowledge, you can do many actions.
A. Try to get a warp out B. Try a cloak/MWD trick warp C. If you are covert-cloak, use it D. Burn back to the gate.
As a new player, with limited knowledge, I would advice the last one. Turn on your propulsion module and burn back to the gate and jump ASAP
And after you jumped, get away from the gate ASAP again.
Make safespots in systems and bounce between them. Cloak up in a safespot and open your maps to see if you can bypass that camp.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:32:06 -
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J'Poll wrote:I'm don't have much leadership skills in real life either. And a bad temper (both in real life aswel as in the game, can give you names of people to confirm the latter ) And we all make poor decisions in real life. No person in the world will be able to say at the end of their life that they didn't regret a single decision they made in their life. Hell, I'm not even 30 and can tell you, I do need 2 hands to list them already. Gotta repost my description of J'Poll: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5316528#post5316528
More of my rookie wisdom. Read the "Experiences of a total n00b, barely 4 days into trial" bit too: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4777634#post4777634 |
J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:36:13 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:J'Poll wrote:I'm don't have much leadership skills in real life either. And a bad temper (both in real life aswel as in the game, can give you names of people to confirm the latter ) And we all make poor decisions in real life. No person in the world will be able to say at the end of their life that they didn't regret a single decision they made in their life. Hell, I'm not even 30 and can tell you, I do need 2 hands to list them already. Gotta repost my description of J'Poll: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5316528#post5316528 More of my rookie wisdom. Read the "Experiences of a total n00b, barely 4 days into trial" bit too: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4777634#post4777634
Fun fact...that's the first time I actually read that
And...luckily we have an emoticon to match my face now:
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:48:26 -
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Well you can all safely assume by now that i am an idiot by default,creating this thread and rumbling how bad game is,when in turn im the stupid one here,since ive learned at least 5 new things not to mention links to other threads.
Seems i should only asked what im doing wrong-which turns out a lot.So apologies to CCP and forum members for coming out as such a dork. |
Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:51:16 -
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I came in to smack you about for your OP but missed my chance as you've changed your tone...
Anyway. I agree with Tau. Maybe your corp was good for a while but even good corps go bad with inactivity and no one corp is going to teach you 100% of the game mechanics. If you enjoyed the "This is EVE" trailer, keep in mind that every single thing in it really happened. Go find a new corp and take part. Try something different. You might even be in the next trailer.
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.01.15 00:53:00 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:I came in to smack you about for your OP but missed my chance as you've changed your tone... Anyway. I agree with Tau. Maybe your corp was good for a while but even good corps go bad with inactivity and no one corp is going to teach you 100% of the game mechanics. If you enjoyed the "This is EVE" trailer, keep in mind that every single thing in it really happened. Go find a new corp and take part. Try something different. You might even be in the next trailer.
He is one of the 2 people I / we converted today
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Candi LeMew
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:13:12 -
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pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:Well you can all safely assume by now that i am an idiot by default,creating this thread and rumbling how bad game is,when in turn im the stupid one here,since ive learned at least 5 new things not to mention links to other threads.
Seems i should only asked what im doing wrong-which turns out a lot.So apologies to CCP and forum members for coming out as such a dork. Shitposting in shitthreads is a great, time honored EVE tradition, OP.
Welcome aboard, sir.
Don't worry about it.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:19:50 -
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Links? I've got a million of 'em! The EVE community loves newbros that have the right attitude and are willing to learn:
Others: Post of links New to Manufacturing PI Spew
Or even how to search for answers: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3103762#post3103762 I find my old posts (including these links) using Google.
Plus, I do requests. Feel free to EVE-mail me questions you are too shy to post about, but the downside is you will only get my opinion that way!
I encourage all players, new and old, to seek help from other players. Don't be shy! We've all been there! |
pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:24:16 -
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thx a lot all,its a lot to consume in one day,at least i know there is some hope.fly safe ppl |
J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:30:21 -
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If you want a great read:
New Player FAQ, it is in the stickies on this subforum.
If you want a set of useful links:
New Citizen Q&A Resources, again it is one of the stickies.
If you like extra help in game:
Help Chat - Reloaded
Unofficial and player ran help chat. Plenty of veterans around there to help you with any question you might have. Benefit over normal help: less/virtually no trolls and less cluttered. And a great way to meet new people.
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ISD Supogo
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Posted - 2015.01.15 02:32:33 -
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Topic locked.
Quote:Forum rules3. Ranting is prohibited.A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents. 33. "Quitting" posts are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience channel.CCP recognize that during the course of gameplay a lot of friendships are made between players and that sometimes if a player is taking a break or departing from the EVE universe that they would like to say goodbye on the forums. Posts of this nature are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum, and must be civil and well worded.
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