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Info Armer
Phesentaine
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Posted - 2015.01.16 22:33:39 -
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So, many of you may remember about 10 days ago... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5378817#post5378817
Back then, I was extremely new to the game, and wanted this account to be the little toe in the water, to feel the temperature. I found many things from this fourteen day trial....
1. Mining is EXTREMELY boring!!
Well, in the first day or so, I had earned enough money to fully equip a Venture and go out mining. I started mining anndd....just sat there....mining....woopie. When I brought my haul of 700k ISK, I felt like I wasted my time. It is very boring in my opinion and does not exhilarate me at all.
2. Exploration. . . eh . . .
After finding out that mining was boring, I decided to start getting myself immersed into exploration, since one of my friends said he earned upwards of 200 million on some runs. In the beginning, it was slow but fun, scanning around for data sites then hacking into them to find goodies, but never paid much. Then, I tried it in nullsec and in wormholes. It was soo intense, looking at the monitors for people, and making sure nobody was in local. I probably lost about six Probes doing that.
3. Playerbase
Some areas of Eve have extremely nice players, who lend you a hand. Then, there are others who scam, and terrorize others. I mostly met all of the nice players, whom of which always paid me after I had died in nullsec for my "bravery". It felt very good that others actually cared for newer pilots.
4. Jita
This topic really does get its own section. Jita is the BIGGEST place ever! It has almost every object in the game on their markets, and soo many ships go in and out from distant parts of the Eve Universe. It really stunned me how many people could be in one area at once. But then, I moved to local chat....ISK doublers and triplers and "contracts" sprinkled with very few legitimate trade offers flooded my screen. It was absolute madness!
To conclude, Eve is definitely a game I want to invest my time in. I really wanted this account to put my feet into the water, to see if I really wanted to play. Many of you are probably curious as to how much I earned, and the fact is is that I earned probably 5 million by myself. The rest of the cash (115 million) was all donated from the people who felt bad about killing my little ship in nullsec. I am probably going to not do exploration nor mining as a career for my next account, but instead do PvP, since many friends I knew got unimaginably rich from kills.
I am going to leave this account, and migrate to another to start fresh. Not many, or nobody, will know that it is me. . .
This has definitely been an eye opening experience for Eve Online. I would reccomend dipping your feet into the water if you are interested in playing (if you are thinking about buying, of course).
See you all,
Info Armer
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5533
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Posted - 2015.01.16 23:10:02 -
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\o/ Another soul converted from the so called, but obviously fake, real life to EVE.
Cause we all know...EVE is real.
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Eldwinn
SomeWhat SophiSticateD Shadow Cartel
281
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Posted - 2015.01.17 01:11:25 -
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Confirmed. Space pixels is real. |
dark heartt
531
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Posted - 2015.01.17 01:49:31 -
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I don't think you'll find too many people who disagree with you about mining. It's great in a group when you're on comms and can talk to others, but solo mining is the most boring, mind numbing thing you can do in Eve.
Glad to see you managed to make a place for yourself here, and welcome to Eve.
http://tetrisisunrealistic.blogspot.com.au/
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Chal0ner
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
100
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Posted - 2015.01.17 07:20:20 -
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dark heartt wrote:I don't think you'll find too many people who disagree with you about mining. It's great in a group when you're on comms and can talk to others
This.
But also. I used to like mining. My play time is usually divided into two period, mornings before work and evenings after work. Mornings (very late US or very early EU tz) is brilliant for quiet semi-afk mining in high sec. Find a quiet system, hopefully find someone on chat or comms, or watch a video - and mine up some cans you can haul in with an Orca or something. Brilliant way of getting materials for building when not awake enough for something requiring more attention.
Like all activities in Eve it's usually more fun in groups though.
Welcome to Eve btw.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
45730
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Posted - 2015.01.17 07:49:50 -
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Info Armer wrote: 2. Exploration. . . eh . . .
After finding out that mining was boring, I decided to start getting myself immersed into exploration, since one of my friends said he earned upwards of 200 million on some runs. In the beginning, it was slow but fun, scanning around for data sites then hacking into them to find goodies, but never paid much. Then, I tried it in nullsec and in wormholes. It was soo intense, looking at the monitors for people, and making sure nobody was in local. I probably lost about six Probes doing that.
I am probably going to not do exploration nor mining as a career for my next account, but instead do PvP, since many friends I knew got unimaginably rich from kills.
Well to be fair you didn't really give Exploration a chance. The big ISK isn't gained from doing Relic / Data sites. It's gained from completing the Combat sites and their escalations.
To get the most reward for time invested in Exploration you need to be competitive. That means training up the appropriate skills, having a good ship fit and above all else, being smart and resourceful by checking map stats for areas that have low amount of player activity.
Anyway, it's good to see you decided to do a subscription. Good luck and welcome to Eve.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
285
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Posted - 2015.01.17 11:35:15 -
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Yes fleet mining can be a lot of fun and very active and busy if you know what you are doing and have a professional group. Solo mining, ya it's boring. Also mining especially in high sec due to the small size of the roids does take a decent amount of skill to be good.
Early on in my Eve career I was in a corp that would clear entire solar systems of every last bit of ore on mining ops. We'd have 10+ hulks with Orca boosts and the bare minimum amount of haulers to barely keep up with they yield. The ops were timed and then paid out divided by everyone there so you knew exactly how much m3 per hour and isk per hour you did this week compared to last week. If you don't pay very close attention to what is going on your yield will drop way off. Those ops were a lot of fun for me. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
4415
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Posted - 2015.01.17 12:46:25 -
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Mining is only interesting when my alliance arrives to ruin your day. You might fight us off, you might flee or you might suffer losses, but it will at least be interesting.
As for the nice and nasty players - even the nasty ones can be great people. Earn our respect and we will teach you the way of the predator, which is a hilariously fun way to play EVE.
Or if you prefer - establish a name as someone honest. It's your call.
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3630
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Posted - 2015.01.18 01:52:05 -
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Welcome to EvE OP.
And believe me when I say that with the attitude and boldness you have shown, you can go far in EvE. Reach for the stars I would say, you'll get there.
So again, welcome to EvE!
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Roel Yento
Death Row inc
46
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Posted - 2015.01.18 16:06:05 -
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Why start fresh? You lose out on the skill training in the last 14 days and have to do it over again to end up where you are now. |
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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
1707
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Posted - 2015.01.18 18:14:23 -
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Ah, i remember my first PvP experience, was in a mining corp, raging at all the "vets" who refused to undock and fight the ONE guy sitting outside who had wardec'ed us. I in my infinite 14-day old PvP-wisdom, undocked in my active/passive shield-tanked Omen with 1 laser fitted, and was promptly killed.
Dude linked me a PvP fit, bought me the fit, and gave me 30mil for not being "a loser". Saw him in a belt in lowsec 3 months later and kicked his butt.
EVE definetly has a fun community. |
dark heartt
532
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Posted - 2015.01.18 23:26:47 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote: EVE definetly has a fun community.
Eve's community is the thing that makes it great. Without the community it has, the game would have imploded years ago.
http://tetrisisunrealistic.blogspot.com.au/
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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
268
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Posted - 2015.01.20 23:54:42 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Mining is only interesting when my alliance arrives to ruin your day. You might fight us off, you might flee or you might suffer losses, but it will at least be interesting.
As for the nice and nasty players - even the nasty ones can be great people. Earn our respect and we will teach you the way of the predator, which is a hilariously fun way to play EVE.
Or if you prefer - establish a name as someone honest. It's your call. I think by nasty he meant the miners he encountered in local that were probably threatening to kill someone's children in real life.
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
297
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Posted - 2015.01.21 23:16:02 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Mining is only interesting when my alliance arrives to ruin your day. You might fight us off, you might flee or you might suffer losses, but it will at least be interesting.
He has to tell himself that to justify his play style. From my personal mining experience the opposite of that is true. I think mining in Eve was a lot more fun before CCP put out the adds glorifying the ganker playstyle which was the onset of organized groups like code doing what used to be an only a once in a while occurrence.
Now-a-days with all the griefers and high sec war dec corps looking for easy kills for me high sec minning on any kind of scale is just not doable. You can have less PvP in null to be honest. The problem is that once you go to null you quickly learn that you can make 3 times the isk running anoms solo which doesn't scale so well with a group so it's almost like solo game play is encouraged. I mean you could mine for 2 hours and have X amount of ore or you could run anoms for 2 hours and buy X amount of ore and still have isk left over as well as loot to reprocess.
I very much miss the days when you could really focus on maxing your yield with your ship piloting skills and have a really engaging an fun experience mining in high sec. If you have 3 or more barges from the same corp in a belt for a few hours now-a-days your are almost guaranteed to be war deced within 24 hours.
I really think that eve needs to be the place where fun engaging PvE group activity is players versus asteroids working to max out their yield. To me that is what eve is all about or was all about. Eve's equivalent of raiding should be the minning op because you can not make PvE combat as challenging as other MMOs where there is not the huge "death penalty" that eve has. If mining is challenging and player skill based if you mess up you just loose yield. It fosters teamwork and coordination between players that frankly even raiding MMOs have gotten away from.
But now I've gone off on a tangent. I understand the CCP and the Eve player base support the code playstyle and PvP combat and competitiveness in general far more than cooperative game play and that I am in the minority here. I understand that I can go play another game if I don't like it. I'm just putting in my two cents about why I loved this game early on and why now I sub for a couple months and then don't play for 6 then sub for a couple months only to walk away again. |
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
4171
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:01:16 -
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Removed an off topic post.
Welcome to EVE.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
458
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:46:05 -
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Info Armer wrote:
2. Exploration. . . eh . . . ... in wormholes... and making sure nobody was in local. I probably lost about six Probes doing that.
A hint don't bother watching local in WH there's no one there, look for d-scan instead and use separate a window for it. |
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