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Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
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Posted - 2015.01.19 13:52:45 -
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Siegfried Cohenber was kind enough to provide an introspective on CODE's philosophy.
TLDR: SC admits that CODE are dicks. He thinks dicks are a necessary evil in the game otherwise it would be boring. He believes that CODE is volunteering on taking on this difficult and necessary responsibility (to be dicks in EVE).
The whole view is perhaps slightly more nuanced. But overall the message is that CODE are dicks and they believe that's what they provide to the EVE community.
Please note that SC is one of the more moderate members of CODE who doesn't usually trash talk and generally i have respect for him personally but this provides a valuable insight into how even more moderate CODE members think.
[09:00:25] ab > that's not his message [09:01:41] ab > i tihnk he always said ganking is a fine mechanic but the way code uses it to troll players is poor attitude [09:02:03] ab > it's basically bad for the game [09:02:18] sc > we're actually healthy for the game imo [09:02:23] sc > need villians [09:02:27] sc > to make it interesting [09:02:30] sc > it'd be boring [09:02:58] ab > yeah well your roleplay crosses over into RL abuse [09:03:04] ab > that's super uncool [09:03:35] sc > rl abuse [09:03:40] sc > ehhh [09:03:48] sc > like i would consider rl abuse [09:03:59] sc > like attacking someone's faults in rl [09:04:11] sc > or just being really abusive [09:05:22] ab > my understanding is that you troll people into anger with bonus rooms etc [09:05:40] ab > just ganking their ship is enough [09:05:44] sc > oh [09:05:47] sc > bonus rooms are old [09:05:50] sc > e 1 is gone [09:05:57] sc > there are no bonus rooms anymore [09:06:01] sc > i even thought they went a bit far [09:06:08] ab > i heard a month ago about it actually [09:06:21] ab > in ag channel that you guys still do it [09:06:33] ab > but tbh i think you did tone down [09:06:34] sc > is ag a reliable source [09:06:36] ab > and it's for the better [09:06:37] sc > or someone in code [09:07:29] ab > anyways i never heard you personally troll people [09:07:40] ab > loyal and ac are just jerks [09:08:17] sc > hmmm [09:08:21] sc > like troll how [09:08:36] sc > theres a lot of different ways and methods used in trolling [09:08:42] sc > with varying levels of acceptance [09:08:59] ab > it's a fine line between crossing over from villain roleplay into poor "content" [09:09:07] sc > i dont bother with any roleplay [09:09:12] sc > im more up front [09:09:22] sc > maybe a tiny bit of permit selling [09:10:28] sc > oh [09:10:31] sc > [09:07:29] ab > anyways i never heard you personally troll people [09:10:33] sc > i cant read [09:10:43] sc > yes loyal and the other agents are fine tear collectors [09:11:19] ab > yeah well i believe even the term "tear collector" is basically bad for the game [09:11:41] sc > the block function exists for a reason [09:11:55] ab > it's the atmosphere you create [09:12:09] ab > people don't want to play with jerks [09:12:29] sc > perhaps you want to say [09:12:30] ab > i'm fairly sure you made many people quit simply because they don't enjoy to be around the likes of you [09:12:33] sc > play in the same game with jerks [09:12:43] sc > i'm pretty sure i've made people uninstall [09:12:48] sc > after losing huge freighter losses [09:12:50] sc > like uh [09:12:52] sc > this guy [09:13:00] sc > Kill: Metuo Dred (Providence) [09:13:06] sc > i dont think hes logged on since [09:13:24] ab > sure i believe it [09:13:59] sc > but thats just rage quitting [09:14:01] sc > like any game [09:14:07] sc > theres going to be winners and losers [09:14:09] ab > well it depends on how you handled it [09:14:16] sc > in any game with 2 teams [09:14:20] ab > sure there will be rage quitters [09:14:35] sc > like someone has to be ganked [09:14:40] ab > but it doesn't help that you basically contact people later and troll them with permits [09:14:49] ab > your permits are not designed for profit, they are designed for trolling [09:14:55] ab > you coulda charged 100m easy [09:15:09] ab > 10m is an obviously small amount that's not even worth the time collecting [09:15:12] sc > well i definitely dont charge 10m for ransoms :^) [09:15:27] ab > so the 10m fee is designed purely for trolling [09:15:49] ab > it basically gives you a reason to troll people by sending them a mail later [09:16:02] ab > dude, not only we ganked you, but we are going to ask you for money [09:16:09] sc > a post gank mail has been around for ages though [09:16:10] sc > even i do that [09:16:24] sc > with nice kills [09:16:24] ab > it's basically designed to outrage people [09:16:34] ab > there's no other purpose to it [09:16:38] sc > well lets go back [09:16:41] sc > to real life sports [09:16:48] sc > you're at a football game [09:16:49] ab > lol [09:16:58] sc > and your home team wins [09:17:00] ab > real life sports has clear rules on unsportsmanlike behavior [09:17:12] sc > theres some opposing team fans right next to you [09:17:14] ab > you get banned for any unsportsmanlike conduct [09:17:21] ab > CODE is like nowhere near sportsmanlike conduct [09:17:22] sc > nono fan to fan interaction [09:17:26] sc > is what im refering to [09:17:33] sc > some real **** talk [09:17:34] sc > going on [09:17:37] sc > with sports fans [09:17:44] ab > fans are too low of a bar to consider [09:17:46] sc > i'd compare post gank mails to that [09:18:00] sc > and people who play a space ship mmo arent [09:18:04] ab > many people avoid sports events simply because of fans [09:18:19] ab > also you are not a fan, you are the team [09:18:41] ab > also your opponents are generally defenseless and beginners [09:18:51] ab > so i think CODE is nowhere near comparison with sports [09:19:02] sc > sports fans [09:19:03] sc > maybe [09:19:05] sc > hmm?
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Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
479
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Posted - 2015.01.19 13:53:31 -
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Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
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Posted - 2015.01.19 13:54:49 -
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Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
479
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Posted - 2015.01.19 14:11:52 -
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Neo Kathura
New Order of Highsec
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Posted - 2015.01.19 14:22:09 -
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Paranoid Loyd
3536
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Posted - 2015.01.19 14:30:37 -
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"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Velicitia
XS Tech
2776
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Posted - 2015.01.19 14:32:27 -
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maybe, I dunno ... link to a pastebin of the chatlogs?
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
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Gaylord Fappington
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.19 14:35:04 -
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Some really groundbreaking stuff here. I've always wanted to know the inner workings of people who blow up mining barges and enforce the Code. |
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
479
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Posted - 2015.01.19 14:39:13 -
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pastebin could be doctored just as well if that's your concern. |
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
479
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Posted - 2015.01.19 14:40:00 -
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Gaylord Fappington wrote:Some really groundbreaking stuff here. I've always wanted to know the inner workings of people who blow up mining barges and enforce the Code.
ikr |
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Buddy Scrap
Ministry of Internal Examination
23
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Posted - 2015.01.19 14:51:21 -
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Reversed. |
Leto Thule
Team Pizza Disavowed.
2015
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Posted - 2015.01.19 14:57:47 -
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IB4L
Posting of chatlogs blah blah blah.
Also, nobody givesafuck.
Big Fat Forum Meanie and Thanatos Scammer
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Velicitia
XS Tech
2778
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Posted - 2015.01.19 15:01:01 -
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Dream Five wrote:pastebin could be doctored just as well if that's your concern.
nope, just trying to read through multiple posts of doctored chatlogs is annoying.
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1894
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Posted - 2015.01.19 15:02:22 -
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I stopped reading at "permits were designed for trolling", since they were invented at the behest of the GMs.
To be honest I got eye cancer quite a bit before that.
Witty Image - Stream
Not Liking this post hurts my RL feelings and will be considered harassment
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Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra Gallente Federation
250
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Posted - 2015.01.19 15:02:28 -
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Yawn? |
Dradis Aulmais
By Light and Banner's Fallen
636
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Posted - 2015.01.19 15:15:57 -
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Spam
Tldr
Ib4l |
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
479
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Posted - 2015.01.19 15:55:04 -
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Dradis Aulmais wrote:Spam
Tldr
Ib4l
gotta <3 EVE average player's attention span. |
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
479
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Posted - 2015.01.19 16:07:15 -
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It'd be cute if i got banned and code stayed in the game lol |
Dradis Aulmais
By Light and Banner's Fallen
636
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Posted - 2015.01.19 16:11:25 -
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Dream Five wrote:Dradis Aulmais wrote:Spam
Tldr
Ib4l gotta <3 EVE average player's attention span.
You don't know my attention span your post is boring and has no practical. .... Oh look a cookie. |
Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
96
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Posted - 2015.01.19 16:11:52 -
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Our ROLEPLAY is offensive? You haven't seen my inbox I take it. |
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1510
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Posted - 2015.01.19 16:32:36 -
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Dream Five wrote:
TLDR: dicks are a necessary ... ...for ... ...correspondence.
Yes I agree
TunDraGon is recruiting!
"Also, your boobs [:o] " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
"When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Kane Ceres
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.01.19 17:28:51 -
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Please edit title, "Interview" suggests that you are impartial and trying to gain some insight about the subject. Or you could just change it to "An extremely biased and leading Q&A (where I dont care about the A) with a CODE. line member." |
Orlacc
739
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Posted - 2015.01.19 18:11:22 -
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Having to bump your own thread means no one is interested. Make sense?
"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
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Siegfried Cohenberg
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2015.01.19 19:04:43 -
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You're not very good at text based pvp are you d5 |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
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Posted - 2015.01.19 19:40:08 -
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Am I too late to reserve a post?
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Karl Jerr
Herzack Unit
91
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Posted - 2015.01.19 21:15:19 -
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Anotther episode of grr CODE. docudrama. Is it a 2015 goal for some? A new "emergent" RP? Inb4lock |
Tengu Grib
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
857
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Posted - 2015.01.19 21:28:07 -
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admiral root wrote:Am I too late to reserve a post?
I think we both missed the deadline to reserve posts.
Sabriz for CSMX!
Consider voting Tora as well.
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Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains.
1061
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Posted - 2015.01.19 21:32:35 -
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Reserving a spot for the 2016 uptake.
Concord Approved Trader
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Leto Thule
Team Pizza Disavowed.
2017
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Posted - 2015.01.19 23:33:26 -
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admiral root wrote:Am I too late to reserve a post?
Yes, but don't worry. Another ****** anti CODE. thread will be along soon.
Big Fat Forum Meanie and Thanatos Scammer
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
751
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Posted - 2015.01.19 23:54:16 -
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Yeeeeeeha! Posting in another thread about my favourite thing in EVE, CODE. !!
the Code ALWAYS wins
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