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Shelom Severasse
Burning Alder
49
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Posted - 2015.01.22 01:33:41 -
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Alexi Drakenovic wrote:baltec1 wrote:Alexi Drakenovic wrote:I know I'm just a new Capsuleer, but wouldn't a Scorpion class Battleship fitted with a Heavy Neut, 4 HAM Launchers with Rage, a Web, a Scram, a Drone Aug for Drones range, a few Drone Damage Aug's, and a full ECM suite theoretically beat most Frigates and destroyers? I toyed with the idea of using it if i ever needed too.. Just jam your opponent constantly, Web and Scram them, set the Drones and Launchers on them with the Neut.. That would work right? Same with a Raven with enough TP and a Web, and a Heavy Neut.. I have played around with PvP Caldari Battleship builds since i started, and i try and get them to excel at 1-3vs1 Frigates and up.. Though all i have to go off is the current meta and what i have read.. So i am probably wrong, but it should work.. at least if the Frigate pilot isn't a 5 year old vet that knows every trick or someone who has planned against it.. Sorry if I'm wrong.. Your stumbling down the right path. Ironicaly the most deadly anti-frig ship is the rattlesnake. Oh? That is the pirate Drone boat right? I will have to look int that, i was just thinking cause when i ran a test through my EFT and ran the numbers the Scorpion class Battleship seemed to be the obvious choice for BS vs Frigate, especially if it is 1 on 1, and even if it has back up, you have 5 Jammers, so.. Yeah.. Anyways, thanks for the reply! Ill get out of this now so i don't get in the way of this thread with any stupid assumptions or stupid noob questions or mistakes, cheers! You can always start your own thread with whatever you want to talk about man :p |
Alexi Drakenovic
Ishukone Reserve Military Division
16
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Posted - 2015.01.22 01:38:59 -
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Shelom Severasse wrote:Alexi Drakenovic wrote:baltec1 wrote:Alexi Drakenovic wrote:I know I'm just a new Capsuleer, but wouldn't a Scorpion class Battleship fitted with a Heavy Neut, 4 HAM Launchers with Rage, a Web, a Scram, a Drone Aug for Drones range, a few Drone Damage Aug's, and a full ECM suite theoretically beat most Frigates and destroyers? I toyed with the idea of using it if i ever needed too.. Just jam your opponent constantly, Web and Scram them, set the Drones and Launchers on them with the Neut.. That would work right? Same with a Raven with enough TP and a Web, and a Heavy Neut.. I have played around with PvP Caldari Battleship builds since i started, and i try and get them to excel at 1-3vs1 Frigates and up.. Though all i have to go off is the current meta and what i have read.. So i am probably wrong, but it should work.. at least if the Frigate pilot isn't a 5 year old vet that knows every trick or someone who has planned against it.. Sorry if I'm wrong.. Your stumbling down the right path. Ironicaly the most deadly anti-frig ship is the rattlesnake. Oh? That is the pirate Drone boat right? I will have to look int that, i was just thinking cause when i ran a test through my EFT and ran the numbers the Scorpion class Battleship seemed to be the obvious choice for BS vs Frigate, especially if it is 1 on 1, and even if it has back up, you have 5 Jammers, so.. Yeah.. Anyways, thanks for the reply! Ill get out of this now so i don't get in the way of this thread with any stupid assumptions or stupid noob questions or mistakes, cheers! You can always start your own thread with whatever you want to talk about man :p
Yeah i know that, but this actually went with this thread, so i put some input in is all, haha! My fits aren't good apparently (According to forum people and that, my Corp like the fits i make them though) so yeah.. And wait.. I can make my own post about anything i want to talk about? Even.. *looks over shoulder* the meaning to life?..
Haha! Just joking, but yeah, thanks man, i actually post a lot considering I'm new, I'm trying to make a name for myself *pulls heroic pose* but i might start up another one now.. You got me thinking about new thread topics! |
Amanda Guido
Federation Nova Corp
8
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Posted - 2015.01.22 02:00:07 -
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I'm really not understanding how anyone is getting an Apoc up to anywhere near 3000 ms without massive links. You would literally have to have zero tank and a **** ton of links to get anywhere near that |
Amanda Guido
Federation Nova Corp
8
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Posted - 2015.01.22 02:10:09 -
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Chessur wrote:Amanda Guido wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Amanda Guido wrote:I'm not biting off more then I can chew. I have seen it happen again and again. One frigate gets under your guns and it's all over. They will shoot down your drones and u will no longer be able to damage them. Even dual webbed, u will not even touch a frigate under 3000m. So how do u plan getting out of that? You are not arguing with your average pilot that doesn't know how to kill things is all i'm saying. He is one of the few people that posts that doesn't speak above his ability. All of his advice is sound. I'm sure he is competent. But I know for a fact that without a neut or being a drone boat with drone damage bonuses, you will be helpless to any frigate that comes by. And him telling me that he thinks he can move faster then a frigate with his mwd Apoc is laughable Please, bring your incursis into thera. Will be there with my plethora of BS ships. We will both warp to some place and i will kill you. Bring plenty of incursis. I will enjoy collecting free kills. Battleships with any neuting potentional / AB / Speed / webs will kill you easily. Watch ANY big miker video, or some of my BS footage. Most / All BS will fit a heavy neut specifically to deal with frigates. A single heated MWD cycle away on top of a web, is enough transversal to get a shot off, which will volley your frigate. A navy apoc can heat to 3K/S. which is enough to coast, cut transversal and then volley your frigate with 1 shot. The Apoc that I fly, is a nano apoc. Also the Apoc can use MJDs. Heavy neut just before your cycle your MJD off- your scram goes out. I warp to 100K away, load Scorch- burn back in. At that point I am going to kill you with 800DPS to your face. You are correct in stating, that if your frigate gets to within a BS with scram, web, and that BS somehow is not packing a heavy neut or a flight of light drones- you will kill it. However any competent BS pilots has a fleet with him (With anti-support ships) or, Flys a BS that can 'deal' with light tackle, they will drop a gun for a heavy neut. I will bring my nightmare- to fight any frigate of your choice. Watch nightmareX. In it you can see me volloying garmurs, dramiels, dictors.... and other light tackle. I can't wait to fraps your pathetic attempts to kill me in a single frigate.
I have no doubt that you can volley frigates and what not in any BS. I have done it many times. The problem is if they get in close. Which is not difficult for a frigate seeing as it takes about 15 secs to lock and in 99 percent of cases the frigate is MUCH faster. Once they are in close the ONLY thing that can save you is a neut. Which many ships don't have the utility slot for so they have to gimp themselves to fit.
Still very curious how u manage 3000ms in an apoc without serious links and implants |
Alexi Drakenovic
Ishukone Reserve Military Division
16
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Posted - 2015.01.22 02:14:34 -
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Question: You guys are all using terms like "under its guns and the like" so would these ideas and that work against a Missile Battleship? As they always hit, albet at reduced damage, but does it make a difference? Like will a Missile boat kill faster or will the one with Guns just one volley it if it connects? I am actually interested in this as I know Insta damage weapons are Preferred for PvP but would a Missile boat Battleship win out against a Frigate? |
Chessur
Mining Industry Exile Foundation The Camel Empire
458
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Posted - 2015.01.22 02:34:29 -
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Amanda Guido wrote:Chessur wrote:Amanda Guido wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Amanda Guido wrote:I'm not biting off more then I can chew. I have seen it happen again and again. One frigate gets under your guns and it's all over. They will shoot down your drones and u will no longer be able to damage them. Even dual webbed, u will not even touch a frigate under 3000m. So how do u plan getting out of that? You are not arguing with your average pilot that doesn't know how to kill things is all i'm saying. He is one of the few people that posts that doesn't speak above his ability. All of his advice is sound. I'm sure he is competent. But I know for a fact that without a neut or being a drone boat with drone damage bonuses, you will be helpless to any frigate that comes by. And him telling me that he thinks he can move faster then a frigate with his mwd Apoc is laughable Please, bring your incursis into thera. Will be there with my plethora of BS ships. We will both warp to some place and i will kill you. Bring plenty of incursis. I will enjoy collecting free kills. Battleships with any neuting potentional / AB / Speed / webs will kill you easily. Watch ANY big miker video, or some of my BS footage. Most / All BS will fit a heavy neut specifically to deal with frigates. A single heated MWD cycle away on top of a web, is enough transversal to get a shot off, which will volley your frigate. A navy apoc can heat to 3K/S. which is enough to coast, cut transversal and then volley your frigate with 1 shot. The Apoc that I fly, is a nano apoc. Also the Apoc can use MJDs. Heavy neut just before your cycle your MJD off- your scram goes out. I warp to 100K away, load Scorch- burn back in. At that point I am going to kill you with 800DPS to your face. You are correct in stating, that if your frigate gets to within a BS with scram, web, and that BS somehow is not packing a heavy neut or a flight of light drones- you will kill it. However any competent BS pilots has a fleet with him (With anti-support ships) or, Flys a BS that can 'deal' with light tackle, they will drop a gun for a heavy neut. I will bring my nightmare- to fight any frigate of your choice. Watch nightmareX. In it you can see me volloying garmurs, dramiels, dictors.... and other light tackle. I can't wait to fraps your pathetic attempts to kill me in a single frigate. I have no doubt that you can volley frigates and what not in any BS. I have done it many times. The problem is if they get in close. Which is not difficult for a frigate seeing as it takes about 15 secs to lock and in 99 percent of cases the frigate is MUCH faster. Once they are in close the ONLY thing that can save you is a neut. Which many ships don't have the utility slot for so they have to gimp themselves to fit. Still very curious how u manage 3000ms in an apoc without serious links and implants
Yah, i am using implants, links, quafe, and nanos.
With a sig amp + Quafe you can get frig lock time around 8 sec or so. |
Amanda Guido
Federation Nova Corp
8
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Posted - 2015.01.22 02:38:39 -
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Alexi Drakenovic wrote:Question: You guys are all using terms like "under its guns" and the like so would these ideas and that work against a Missile Battleship? As they always hit, albet at reduced damage, but does it make a difference? Like will a Missile boat kill faster or will the one with Guns just one volley it if it connects? I am actually interested in this as I know Insta damage weapons are Preferred for PvP but would a Missile boat Battleship win out against a Frigate?
Forgive me if that was a stupid question..
The mechanic with missles is a little different. Missiles always hit, but the damage is significantly reduced to smaller faster targets. Distance has no factor in the equation like guns. For missiles you want to reduce your explosion radius and explosion velocity as much as possible, as well as using webs and painters to increase the applied damage. |
Alexi Drakenovic
Ishukone Reserve Military Division
16
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Posted - 2015.01.22 02:41:34 -
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Amanda Guido wrote:Alexi Drakenovic wrote:Question: You guys are all using terms like "under its guns" and the like so would these ideas and that work against a Missile Battleship? As they always hit, albet at reduced damage, but does it make a difference? Like will a Missile boat kill faster or will the one with Guns just one volley it if it connects? I am actually interested in this as I know Insta damage weapons are Preferred for PvP but would a Missile boat Battleship win out against a Frigate?
Forgive me if that was a stupid question.. The mechanic with missles is a little different. Missles always hit, but the damage is significantly reduced to smaller faster targets. Distance has no factor in the equation like guns. For missles you want to reduce your explosion radius and explosion velocity as much as possible, as well as using webs and painters to increase the applied damage
Does that mean with the right fit to work with it (i.e. A Neut, 2 TP, 1 Web, 6 Cruise Missiles, and full skills) might pull of similar or better then a turret weapon? Forgive my stupidity.. I have only used Missiles thus far |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
391
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Posted - 2015.01.22 02:47:03 -
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Amanda Guido wrote:
I have no doubt that you can volley frigates and what not in any BS. I have done it many times. The problem is if they get in close. Which is not difficult for a frigate seeing as it takes about 15 secs to lock and in 99 percent of cases the frigate is MUCH faster. Once they are in close the ONLY thing that can save you is a neut. Which many ships don't have the utility slot for so they have to gimp themselves to fit.
https://zkillboard.com/character/93496007/
full of **** just coming to blather on forums. Done. |
Amanda Guido
Federation Nova Corp
8
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Posted - 2015.01.22 02:52:51 -
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Thanatos Marathon wrote:Amanda Guido wrote:
I have no doubt that you can volley frigates and what not in any BS. I have done it many times. The problem is if they get in close. Which is not difficult for a frigate seeing as it takes about 15 secs to lock and in 99 percent of cases the frigate is MUCH faster. Once they are in close the ONLY thing that can save you is a neut. Which many ships don't have the utility slot for so they have to gimp themselves to fit.
https://zkillboard.com/character/93496007/ full of **** just coming to blather on forums. Done.
This character was purchased first of all, my account is from 2003. So please eat a bowl of dicks. And if you look closely u can see those last two hyperion kills. Do you really think I would know as much as I do about pvp from one 2013 toon? I have probably seen more small scale pvp then anyone on this forum. My account is ancient. What I admittedly have not seen much of is nulls empire pvp. Most of my experience is FW and small gang. |
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Chessur
Mining Industry Exile Foundation The Camel Empire
458
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Posted - 2015.01.22 03:07:01 -
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Amanda Guido wrote:Thanatos Marathon wrote:Amanda Guido wrote:
I have no doubt that you can volley frigates and what not in any BS. I have done it many times. The problem is if they get in close. Which is not difficult for a frigate seeing as it takes about 15 secs to lock and in 99 percent of cases the frigate is MUCH faster. Once they are in close the ONLY thing that can save you is a neut. Which many ships don't have the utility slot for so they have to gimp themselves to fit.
https://zkillboard.com/character/93496007/ full of **** just coming to blather on forums. Done. This character was purchased first of all, my account is from 2003. So please eat a bowl of dicks. And if you look closely u can see those last two hyperion kills. Do you really think I would know as much as I do about pvp from one 2013 toon? I have probably seen more small scale pvp then anyone on this forum. My account is ancient. What I admittedly have not seen much of is null empire pvp. Most of my experience is FW and small gang.. It would make you sick how much real world money, and isk I have lost and destroyed over the course of my account. You really should think before discrediting yourself by assuming the character one posts on the forum on is the only character attached to an account
lolol
A bit full of yourself...
Baltec and Big miker for sure eclipse your claimed pvp knowledge many times over. Of that I have no doubt. Get over yourself and post on a main. Or get out, and give respect to people who actually practice what they preach. |
Amanda Guido
Federation Nova Corp
8
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Posted - 2015.01.22 03:09:52 -
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Chessur wrote:Amanda Guido wrote:Thanatos Marathon wrote:Amanda Guido wrote:
I have no doubt that you can volley frigates and what not in any BS. I have done it many times. The problem is if they get in close. Which is not difficult for a frigate seeing as it takes about 15 secs to lock and in 99 percent of cases the frigate is MUCH faster. Once they are in close the ONLY thing that can save you is a neut. Which many ships don't have the utility slot for so they have to gimp themselves to fit.
https://zkillboard.com/character/93496007/ full of **** just coming to blather on forums. Done. This character was purchased first of all, my account is from 2003. So please eat a bowl of dicks. And if you look closely u can see those last two hyperion kills. Do you really think I would know as much as I do about pvp from one 2013 toon? I have probably seen more small scale pvp then anyone on this forum. My account is ancient. What I admittedly have not seen much of is null empire pvp. Most of my experience is FW and small gang.. It would make you sick how much real world money, and isk I have lost and destroyed over the course of my account. You really should think before discrediting yourself by assuming the character one posts on the forum on is the only character attached to an account lolol A bit full of yourself... Baltec and Big miker for sure eclipse your claimed pvp knowledge many times over. Of that I have no doubt. Get over yourself and post on a main. Or get out, and give respect to people who actually practice what they preach.
No doubt they have a great deal. But running around with massive links and HG implants wrecking everything at 40km is not difficult. Take away those links and expensive implants and they would not be able to do half of what their video shows.
Because I am totally wasting my time coming on the forum complaining about something that many people, including yourself, agreed with me on. It must just be my inexperience. *rolls eyes* |
Chessur
Mining Industry Exile Foundation The Camel Empire
458
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Posted - 2015.01.22 03:15:53 -
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Amanda Guido wrote:Chessur wrote:Amanda Guido wrote:Thanatos Marathon wrote:Amanda Guido wrote:
I have no doubt that you can volley frigates and what not in any BS. I have done it many times. The problem is if they get in close. Which is not difficult for a frigate seeing as it takes about 15 secs to lock and in 99 percent of cases the frigate is MUCH faster. Once they are in close the ONLY thing that can save you is a neut. Which many ships don't have the utility slot for so they have to gimp themselves to fit.
https://zkillboard.com/character/93496007/ full of **** just coming to blather on forums. Done. This character was purchased first of all, my account is from 2003. So please eat a bowl of dicks. And if you look closely u can see those last two hyperion kills. Do you really think I would know as much as I do about pvp from one 2013 toon? I have probably seen more small scale pvp then anyone on this forum. My account is ancient. What I admittedly have not seen much of is null empire pvp. Most of my experience is FW and small gang.. It would make you sick how much real world money, and isk I have lost and destroyed over the course of my account. You really should think before discrediting yourself by assuming the character one posts on the forum on is the only character attached to an account lolol A bit full of yourself... Baltec and Big miker for sure eclipse your claimed pvp knowledge many times over. Of that I have no doubt. Get over yourself and post on a main. Or get out, and give respect to people who actually practice what they preach. No doubt they have a great deal. But running around with massive links and HG implants wrecking everything at 40km is not difficult. Take away those links and expensive implants and they would not be able to do half of what their video shows. Because I am totally wasting my time coming on the forum complaining about something that many people, including yourself, agreed with me on. *rolls eyes*
lol
Still working on tempering that ego.
If its so easy, then show me your fraps? Put your apparent 'skills' + Isk where your mouth is. I still don't see you posting on your main. If you are so amazing from 2003 you must have truckloads of kills, fraps, and isk. |
Amanda Guido
Federation Nova Corp
8
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Posted - 2015.01.22 03:38:04 -
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I honestly did not post on this forum to compare gun calibers with fellow veterans. But, I am tempted to go through the trouble to post a limited API so you can feel foolish when you see that my account is as old as EVE.
Think whatever you wish, my knowledge speaks for itself. And I don't run around in blobs, or with links posting about how uber I am in BS's, when nobody can get anywhere near me because I am so supped up on boosters, implants, links and quafe.
Seriously, get real |
Provence Tristram
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
66
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Posted - 2015.01.22 03:50:51 -
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Chessur wrote:
lol
Still working on tempering that ego.
If its so easy, then show me your fraps? Put your apparent 'skills' + Isk where your mouth is. I still don't see you posting on your main. If you are so amazing from 2003 you must have truckloads of kills, fraps, and isk.
I think you guys are getting way too personal over this. I'm less concerned about individual pissing contests than the fact that, 5 years ago, I used to see BSes flying everywhere, and now I haven't seen one outside Jita since I resubbed. Is that anecdotal? Sure. But what the hell else do I have to go on but personal experience? Nobody seems to be flying the things anymore.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
14629
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Posted - 2015.01.22 05:05:26 -
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Alexi Drakenovic wrote:
Oh? That is the pirate Drone boat right? I will have to look int that, i was just thinking cause when i ran a test through my EFT and ran the numbers the Scorpion class Battleship seemed to be the obvious choice for BS vs Frigate, especially if it is 1 on 1, and even if it has back up, you have 5 Jammers, so.. Yeah.. Anyways, thanks for the reply! Ill get out of this now so i don't get in the way of this thread with any stupid assumptions or stupid noob questions or mistakes, cheers!
In part. Mostly it is because of the damage bonus to every missile type which means it has the hardest hitting RLML isk can buy. The entire caldari BS lineup is rather good.
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Alexi Drakenovic
Ishukone Reserve Military Division
16
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Posted - 2015.01.22 05:06:34 -
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baltec1 wrote:Alexi Drakenovic wrote:
Oh? That is the pirate Drone boat right? I will have to look int that, i was just thinking cause when i ran a test through my EFT and ran the numbers the Scorpion class Battleship seemed to be the obvious choice for BS vs Frigate, especially if it is 1 on 1, and even if it has back up, you have 5 Jammers, so.. Yeah.. Anyways, thanks for the reply! Ill get out of this now so i don't get in the way of this thread with any stupid assumptions or stupid noob questions or mistakes, cheers!
In part. Mostly it is because of the damage bonus to every missile type which means it has the hardest hitting RLML isk can buy. The entire caldari BS lineup is rather good.
And you good sir, are the only person so far that has said anything good about Caldari to me since i started! Haha! I will keep that in mind and try to make something that works, thanks again man! |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
14629
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Posted - 2015.01.22 05:13:53 -
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Provence Tristram wrote:Chessur wrote:
lol
Still working on tempering that ego.
If its so easy, then show me your fraps? Put your apparent 'skills' + Isk where your mouth is. I still don't see you posting on your main. If you are so amazing from 2003 you must have truckloads of kills, fraps, and isk.
I think you guys are getting way too personal over this. I'm less concerned about individual pissing contests than the fact that, 5 years ago, I used to see BSes flying everywhere, and now I haven't seen one outside Jita since I resubbed. Is that anecdotal? Sure. But what the hell else do I have to go on but personal experience? Nobody seems to be flying the things anymore.
BS flying solo and in small gangs hasn't been a common thing to see since CCP added tracking and stacking penalties to the game. Most see them as too slow, even before the warp speed changes and the vast bulk just dont try them before dismissing them.
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Provence Tristram
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
69
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Posted - 2015.01.22 05:22:47 -
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Alexi Drakenovic wrote:baltec1 wrote:Alexi Drakenovic wrote:
Oh? That is the pirate Drone boat right? I will have to look int that, i was just thinking cause when i ran a test through my EFT and ran the numbers the Scorpion class Battleship seemed to be the obvious choice for BS vs Frigate, especially if it is 1 on 1, and even if it has back up, you have 5 Jammers, so.. Yeah.. Anyways, thanks for the reply! Ill get out of this now so i don't get in the way of this thread with any stupid assumptions or stupid noob questions or mistakes, cheers!
In part. Mostly it is because of the damage bonus to every missile type which means it has the hardest hitting RLML isk can buy. The entire caldari BS lineup is rather good. And you good sir, are the only person so far that has said anything good about Caldari to me since i started! Haha! I will keep that in mind and try to make something that works, thanks again man!
Honestly, I think the Caldari have better gunships than the Gallente. I'm probably going to get flamed hardcore for that, but I'll take a Moa over a Thorax; a Ferox over a Brutix pretty much any day of the week. And I prefer armor tanking, mind you.
Plus... can anyone really argue with the Moa's redesign? It went from being arguably EVE's ugliest duckling to its coolest looking ship period.
No... you'll hear no hate for the Caldari coming from me. I don't think their missile ships have a lot of PvP utility, but their rail based units (particularly the T1 stuff) seem fairly underutilized, but are fine performers. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
14629
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Posted - 2015.01.22 05:28:06 -
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Amanda Guido wrote:
No doubt they have a great deal. But running around with massive links and HG implants wrecking everything at 40km is not difficult. Take away those links and expensive implants and they would not be able to do half of what their video shows.
I don't use either. People know me due to my stubbornly flying megathrons no matter what the fleet is and my alarming high chance of survival.
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Provence Tristram
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
73
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Posted - 2015.01.22 05:47:17 -
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baltec1 wrote:Amanda Guido wrote:
No doubt they have a great deal. But running around with massive links and HG implants wrecking everything at 40km is not difficult. Take away those links and expensive implants and they would not be able to do half of what their video shows.
I don't use either. People know me due to my stubbornly flying megathrons no matter what the fleet is and my alarming high chance of survival.
Well good on you for sticking to your guns. I only hope I can get away with the same when I get to that point. I want to fly BSes even if they are flawed. |
Icarius
The Wings of Maak
23
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Posted - 2015.01.22 12:12:33 -
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Chessur wrote:However any competent BS pilots has a fleet with him (With anti-support ships) or, Flys a BS that can 'deal' with light tackle, they will drop a gun for a heavy neut.
Game over
As Chessur said, any competent BS pilot will fly a BS that can 'deal' with light tackle and will drop a gun or more for heavy neutra. Worst, he will be able to get rid off most medium size tackler too.
I use a typhoon fleet issue quite often (923 solo kills) and light tacklers are insignificants, sometimes i don't even kill them, waste of time ... and oh surprise ... my 8 hi slots are not filled with guns only ... i wonder why
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Catalytic morphisis
Future Methods
83
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Posted - 2015.01.22 13:06:12 -
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Icarius wrote:Chessur wrote:However any competent BS pilots has a fleet with him (With anti-support ships) or, Flys a BS that can 'deal' with light tackle, they will drop a gun for a heavy neut.
Game over As Chessur said, any competent BS pilot will fly a BS that can 'deal' with light tackle and will drop a gun or more for heavy neutra. Worst, he will be able to get rid off most medium size tackler too. I use a typhoon fleet issue quite often (923 solo kills) and light tacklers are insignificants, sometimes i don't even kill them, waste of time ... and oh surprise ... my 8 hi slots are not filled with guns only ... i wonder why Best policy, I approve of this
Quad Boxing Trading Extroadinaire, Actual Link free solo PvP'er
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Aiyshimin
Shiva Furnace
364
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Posted - 2015.01.22 13:23:21 -
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Icarius wrote:Chessur wrote:However any competent BS pilots has a fleet with him (With anti-support ships) or, Flys a BS that can 'deal' with light tackle, they will drop a gun for a heavy neut.
Game over As Chessur said, any competent BS pilot will fly a BS that can 'deal' with light tackle and will drop a gun or more for heavy neutra. Worst, he will be able to get rid off most medium size tackler too. I use a typhoon fleet issue quite often (923 solo kills) and light tacklers are insignificants, sometimes i don't even kill them, waste of time ... and oh surprise ... my 8 hi slots are not filled with guns only ... i wonder why
And by competence I guess you mean killing PVE ships in hisec?
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Icarius
The Wings of Maak
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Aiyshimin wrote:Icarius wrote:Chessur wrote:However any competent BS pilots has a fleet with him (With anti-support ships) or, Flys a BS that can 'deal' with light tackle, they will drop a gun for a heavy neut.
Game over As Chessur said, any competent BS pilot will fly a BS that can 'deal' with light tackle and will drop a gun or more for heavy neutra. Worst, he will be able to get rid off most medium size tackler too. I use a typhoon fleet issue quite often (923 solo kills) and light tacklers are insignificants, sometimes i don't even kill them, waste of time ... and oh surprise ... my 8 hi slots are not filled with guns only ... i wonder why And by competence I guess you mean killing PVE ships in hisec?
I mean anything i see, PVE or PVP ships, while surviving constant damages from faction police, something you are not able to do at the moment. Well .. from a guy who is only able, alone, to kill an algos, fitted for exploration, with an absolution ... it s quite funny |
Aiyshimin
Shiva Furnace
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Posted - 2015.01.22 13:57:59 -
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Icarius wrote: I mean anything i see, PVE or PVP ships, while surviving constant damages from faction police, something you are not able to do at the moment. Well .. from a guy who is only able, alone, to kill an algos, fitted for exploration, with an absolution ... it s quite funny
Are you seriously suggesting that your hisec ganking is somehow relevant to discussion about battleship viability? Of course it works for what you do, you are not exposed to competent opponents. Take your TFI to Huola?
Sorry, Aiyshimin is my indy alt https://zkillboard.com/character/1456935381/
EDIT: lol, the algos must have been this fight https://zkillboard.com/related/31000677/201307041900/ |
Catalytic morphisis
Future Methods
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:01:19 -
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Love how speaking about Battleship viability has turned into a ***** measuring competition...
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Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:22:15 -
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Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:26:49 -
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Amanda Guido wrote:And if you look closely u can see those last two hyperion kills.
Yup, saw them. No frigates on the kills.
[EDIT] - Also, why take a carebear fit to OMS to run sites? |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:30:40 -
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Thanatos Marathon wrote:Amanda Guido wrote:And if you look closely u can see those last two hyperion kills. Yup, saw them. No frigates on the kills.
Torp golem can wipe out assault frigates in two vollies. I have a megathron with better tracking than med electron blasters.
Frigates can be delt with.
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