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Goatman NotMyFault
NorCorp Shipyards
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Posted - 2015.01.20 20:47:25 -
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What happend to walkin stations? Why did the prosess halt? Did CCP come With a statement on their progress With it? |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.01.20 20:48:02 -
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IB4L
Just go search, not even the forum.
Just search google for "eve incarna".
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.01.20 20:49:31 -
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*Hands OP a helmet*
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Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
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Posted - 2015.01.20 20:50:02 -
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wait, there was a time when the stations could walk ?!?! |
Dangeresque Too
Pistols for Pandas
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Posted - 2015.01.20 20:50:24 -
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The Door, someone locked it and lost the key... |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
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Posted - 2015.01.20 20:52:56 -
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WIS wasn't about Spaceships and people were afraid it would lead to some Play To Win with microtransactions. So CCP killed it. Did I mention Walking In Station has nothing to do with Spaceships? |
Goatman NotMyFault
NorCorp Shipyards
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Posted - 2015.01.20 20:59:13 -
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Erica Dusette wrote:*Hands OP a helmet*
Gimme me helmet before i injure myself :D
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Wacktopia
Noir. Suddenly Spaceships.
763
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Posted - 2015.01.20 21:11:25 -
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Goatman NotMyFault wrote:What happend to walkin stations? Why did the prosess halt? Did CCP come With a statement on their progress With it?
Good idea; poorly implemented.
Concept was basically sold as walking around in a station with outlets, shops, bars, etc - things that might immerse you in the first-person avatar experience of life in space.
What was produced was a single-player experience for one room for one race and an $80 monocle. Other three races' rooms came later but remained a single room.
People raged because not only were resources being directed away from the core game play but the result was just so far away from what was expected by anyone. The $80 vanity item was the cherry.
CCP had bet the farm on the single-room Incarna release being satisfactory and at the same time co-test the engine for the WoD game development. Turns out that it didn't pay off.
Ultimately CCP pretty-much scrapped the whole concept and a few years later WoD took a tumble too.
Since that point CCP have focused almost exclusively on improving the core game-play of EVE. An amazing couple of years, with recent direction towards shorter release cycles has turned EVE into the best it has ever been.
We all lived through it and on to a brighter future I guess. Lessons were learned by all, I'm sure.
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Red Teufel
Mafia Redux
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Posted - 2015.01.20 21:16:45 -
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WIS will come but CCP is busy fixing everything broken with the game. EvE will be polished and ready for brand spanking new jesus features after this year. I also hope CCP Seagull does not leave before then. If she does she will miss out on a massive explosion in subscriptions. |
Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
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Posted - 2015.01.20 21:16:55 -
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Hengle Teron wrote:wait, there was a time when the stations could walk ?!?! Stations' legs had to be amputated. Just check yourself - how many stations have legs now?
As my old maths teacher used to say: "Statistics are like bikinis: It's what they don't show that's interesting".
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Goatman NotMyFault
NorCorp Shipyards
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Posted - 2015.01.20 21:27:27 -
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Wacktopia wrote:Goatman NotMyFault wrote:What happend to walkin stations? Why did the prosess halt? Did CCP come With a statement on their progress With it? Good idea; poorly implemented. Concept was basically sold as walking around in a station with outlets, shops, bars, etc - things that might immerse you in the first-person avatar experience of life in space. What was produced was a single-player experience for one room for one race and an $80 monocle. Other three races' rooms came later but remained a single room. People raged because not only were resources being directed away from the core game play but the result was just so far away from what was expected by anyone. The $80 vanity item was the cherry. CCP had bet the farm on the single-room Incarna release being satisfactory and at the same time co-test the engine for the WoD game development. Turns out that it didn't pay off. Ultimately CCP pretty-much scrapped the whole concept and a few years later WoD took a tumble too. Since that point CCP have focused almost exclusively on improving the core game-play of EVE. An amazing couple of years, with recent direction towards shorter release cycles has turned EVE into the best it has ever been. We all lived through it and on to a brighter future I guess. Lessons were learned by all, I'm sure.
Tnx for good answer. Kudos! :)
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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.20 21:40:44 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:WIS wasn't about Spaceships and people were afraid it would lead to some Play To Win with microtransactions. So CCP killed it. Did I mention Walking In Station has nothing to do with Spaceships? walking in station, ships in stations, walking in ships with stations, stations and ships, stations and walking, nah theyre related
a thought occurs, this would likely at some point involve the same bug Star Trek Online had where when you docked it didnt switch to your character model and instead swapped to a miniature version of your spaceship moving around the spacedock |
J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.01.20 21:51:30 -
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-10/10
Cause, originality sucks.
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Wacktopia
Noir. Suddenly Spaceships.
765
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Posted - 2015.01.20 21:56:35 -
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J'Poll wrote:-10/10
Cause, originality sucks.
I checked poasting history. No sign of obvious troll. I think this one checks out....
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9397
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Posted - 2015.01.20 22:06:47 -
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Wacktopia wrote:Goatman NotMyFault wrote:What happend to walkin stations? Why did the prosess halt? Did CCP come With a statement on their progress With it? Good idea; poorly implemented. Concept was basically sold as walking around in a station with outlets, shops, bars, etc - things that might immerse you in the first-person avatar experience of life in space. What was produced was a single-player experience for one room for one race and an $80 monocle. Other three races' rooms came later but remained a single room. People raged because not only were resources being directed away from the core game play but the result was just so far away from what was expected by anyone. The $80 vanity item was the cherry. CCP had bet the farm on the single-room Incarna release being satisfactory and at the same time co-test the engine for the WoD game development. Turns out that it didn't pay off. Ultimately CCP pretty-much scrapped the whole concept and a few years later WoD took a tumble too. Since that point CCP have focused almost exclusively on improving the core game-play of EVE. An amazing couple of years, with recent direction towards shorter release cycles has turned EVE into the best it has ever been. We all lived through it and on to a brighter future I guess. Lessons were learned by all, I'm sure.
Perfectly well said, especially the bolded part. I'm a big huge fan of CCP focusing on EVE's core gameplay to the exclusion of fringe/peripheral "immersion" stuff.
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3088
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Posted - 2015.01.20 22:11:50 -
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Wacktopia wrote:Goatman NotMyFault wrote:What happend to walkin stations? Why did the prosess halt? Did CCP come With a statement on their progress With it? Good idea; poorly implemented. Concept was basically sold as walking around in a station with outlets, shops, bars, etc - things that might immerse you in the first-person avatar experience of life in space. What was produced was a single-player experience for one room for one race and an $80 monocle. Other three races' rooms came later but remained a single room. People raged because not only were resources being directed away from the core game play but the result was just so far away from what was expected by anyone. The $80 vanity item was the cherry. CCP had bet the farm on the single-room Incarna release being satisfactory and at the same time co-test the engine for the WoD game development. Turns out that it didn't pay off. Ultimately CCP pretty-much scrapped the whole concept and a few years later WoD took a tumble too. Since that point CCP have focused almost exclusively on improving the core game-play of EVE. An amazing couple of years, with recent direction towards shorter release cycles has turned EVE into the best it has ever been. We all lived through it and on to a brighter future I guess. Lessons were learned by all, I'm sure. Two other events happened right after the Incarna release that really pushed it over. Without those two, CCP may have finished the concept. One was the leak of an article written for a CCP inside-only newsletter, titled "Greed is good". It explained how micro-transactions could be used to increase revenue, and why it was the way to go. (Turns out the article was written on the request of "Make micro-transactions look as good as possible", not because CCP was dead set on going that way.)
The other was the leak of an e-mail where it was stated that the Incarna release was smooth and wonderful, with only the expected amount of player complaints.
After that leak, everything hit the fan, and there were mass un-subs. You know how when CCP changes something and players say "I'll quit!" Well, that time they actually were doing it.
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45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
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Posted - 2015.01.20 22:43:41 -
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Goatman NotMyFault wrote:What happend to walkin stations? Why did the prosess halt? Did CCP come With a statement on their progress With it?
WIS is no longer going ahead long time ago.
Please do a search in these forum why CCP has stop it.
IBTL
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President Obola
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.20 22:46:29 -
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Goatman NotMyFault wrote:What happend to walkin stations? Why did the prosess halt? Did CCP come With a statement on their progress With it?
Soundwave flushed the key to the door down the toilet before he ****** off to Riot. |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2015.01.20 22:53:22 -
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They abandoned it in favour of beta testing part of the WoD engine. Never forget the true WiS.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2015.01.20 22:54:47 -
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Any time you see people posting that CCP in any way caved to what the players told them to do, it's a big steaming pile of number two. The sheer entitled arrogance of these people is what keeps me reading this comedy show we call General Discussion. To think that a game company would ever...EVER...listen to the vocal minority is complete folly.
One reason and one reason only it stopped with the CQ. CCP boldly tried to use a new tech and failed. It simply wasn't capable of doing what it was supposed to. Hell, it was frying video cards with one character on screen. There was no way it would have been capable of handling a hundred.
So CCP dumped it and went back to doing what they knew how to do.
Spaceships.
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Hicksimus
Volatile Instability Resonance.
521
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Posted - 2015.01.20 22:55:33 -
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- Spent almost the entire lifetime of EvE hyping it. - Released 1 Captains Closet. - Used it as an excuse for why they hadn't been working on EvE and wouldn't be working on EvE(real reason, they were actually using the manpower on other garbage games that have since failed or been canned). - The main moron at CCP said no pay2win and made an internal document about pay to win among other stupid -ideas....including calling us whiners. - Many of us quit and CCP fired 20% of its staff.
WiS got tangled up in CCP being belligerent and now they are afraid to touch it because they think we all hate it. We don't all hate it, we only hate it when it's an excuse to ignore the core gameplay of EvE.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
11344
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Posted - 2015.01.20 22:58:33 -
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Walking in Stations is what should be serving as a reminder to CCP never to listen to the wrong people.
They forgot that a while ago, however.
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Badel Jramodarr
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Posted - 2015.01.20 22:58:35 -
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Did you say Walken stations?
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.01.20 22:58:55 -
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Hicksimus wrote:- Spent almost the entire lifetime of EvE hyping it. - Released 1 Captains Closet. - Used it as an excuse for why they hadn't been working on EvE and wouldn't be working on EvE(real reason, they were actually using the manpower on other garbage games that have since failed or been canned). - The main moron at CCP said no pay2win and made an internal document about pay to win among other stupid -ideas....including calling us whiners. - Many of us quit and CCP fired 20% of its staff.
WiS got tangled up in CCP being belligerent and now they are afraid to touch it because they think we all hate it. We don't all hate it, we only hate it when it's an excuse to ignore the core gameplay of EvE.
Actually this.
Much more accurate than previously posted explanations.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.20 23:01:51 -
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I kinda liked the idea of wandering around a shopping mall trying on some gear and spending my AUR on a nice jacket.
Its not as if the EVE combat system is all that exciting its basically click target and hit a key, pretty unchallenging stuff.
I always suspected at the time the real reason for the huge opposition to WIS was all the fake women in game were afraid a WIS function would attract too many real life female players :D |
Wacktopia
Noir. Suddenly Spaceships.
766
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Posted - 2015.01.20 23:05:26 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Wacktopia wrote:Goatman NotMyFault wrote:What happend to walkin stations? Why did the prosess halt? Did CCP come With a statement on their progress With it? Since that point CCP have focused almost exclusively on improving the core game-play of EVE. An amazing couple of years, with recent direction towards shorter release cycles has turned EVE into the best it has ever been. We all lived through it and on to a brighter future I guess. Lessons were learned by all, I'm sure. Perfectly well said, especially the bolded part. I'm a big huge fan of CCP focusing on EVE's core gameplay to the exclusion of fringe/peripheral "immersion" stuff.
Thanks - there's a positive outcome to it the whole thing that sometimes gets forgot in these threads.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
11347
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Posted - 2015.01.20 23:17:04 -
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Wacktopia wrote: Thanks - there's a positive outcome to it the whole thing that sometimes gets forgot in these threads.
I wouldn't call it a positive outcome. More of a silver lining.
The net effect was still resoundingly negative, and if WiS had never existed in the first place, EVE would be better off.
For starters we wouldn't have more than half a decade's worth of development debt. CCP can never catch up at this point, with their staff at the size that it is currently + hemorrhaging good devs into Riot.
Think about it. We'd have had a functional POS system by now, or perhaps a working sovereignty system even.
But saying that their behavior and development cycles having been corrected after being slapped back into place by the playerbase is a net positive just isn't true in my opinion. They merely got back to doing what they should have been doing the whole time.
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Angel T Hunter
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Posted - 2015.01.20 23:30:51 -
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why you ever wanna walk in a station when you can fly a spaceship? o.O |
Goatman NotMyFault
NorCorp Shipyards
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Posted - 2015.01.21 00:36:28 -
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LOL
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Goatman NotMyFault
NorCorp Shipyards
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Posted - 2015.01.21 00:51:53 -
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Angel T Hunter wrote:why you ever wanna walk in a station when you can fly a spaceship? o.O
Easy... sometimes players needs to get some steam out... walk to the station bar, get wasted, then end up in a fight With some miner and both get tossed to jail to sober up for the NeXT 12hrs... then ure stuck in a small cell for the NeXT 12hrs... cant undock or do shite. Or.... hook up With the most promiscues woman from Uedama and end up With a little appointment to the doctor at the Medical bay. Hell... give players the chance to Waste their last hard earned isk on slots and roulette.
It would give players some abilities to do something completely different for a change within the game... More like EVE Version of sims.... and yes, it would attract women... which again would attract more men to the game....
Imagen the possibilites... Men gets to play their favorite game and as Leisure, they could pick up a "real" chick at the station... thats even a better, and more accepted, way to get ur marriage destroyed by a "game".... yaeh, i know ure out there.... men divorced by EVE.... ;D |
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