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Kieyra Marie Julian
The L4 Runners
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Posted - 2015.01.22 04:32:39 -
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I can't be the only one to feel like this.
The guns, especially on bigger ships feel so powerless, it looks puny (Yes I know it's relative to the ship size it's actually big, this is also a problem with the game where you get no sense of size, everything feels like the same until something smaller comes up to you) and gives no sense of satisfaction when you fire it, you don't feel it's a huge gun, it feels like I'm blowing wet paper balls out of a straw, you don't feel the kick of the weapon nor have any impressive sound cue that you weapon just unloaded a salvo of destruction.
TL;DR:
- Weapons look too small relative to ships sizes
- Weapon sound needs a rehaul
What I think
Instead of having multiple turret graphically represent turret fitted on ship, why not just throw in less turrets and make them bigger? and of course, maybe try a different sound
Now many of you might say well why care when you're just going to zoom out all the time and watch the tactical overlay
It's a coherent experience that is part of the immersion, it's like watching a movie without any bgm, I for one like to zoom in on my ship once in a while to see it fire and since CCP is overhauling ship designs in the past few expansions, why not take a bit more time to make them more impressive |
Quanah Comanche
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.22 04:44:32 -
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Guns are appropriate sizes. Asian MMOs may suit you as for some reason they always have huge weapons. |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
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Posted - 2015.01.22 04:48:57 -
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sound pass...yes
animation pass....yes
Having 1hour rate of fire weapon and half a sec animation on it is wasted opportunity just sayin
Size......size is right |
Kieyra Marie Julian
The L4 Runners
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Posted - 2015.01.22 04:49:10 -
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Quanah Comanche wrote:Guns are appropriate sizes. Asian MMOs may suit you as for some reason they always have huge weapons.
I'm talking about proportion relative to ship size, even battleships of the old had main guns with a size ratio that made them look bad ass. You're firing peashooters here |
Kieyra Marie Julian
The L4 Runners
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Posted - 2015.01.22 04:51:24 -
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Mina Sebiestar wrote:sound pass...yes animation pass....yes Having 1hour rate of fire weapon and half a sec animation on it is wasted opportunity just sayin Size......size is right
That's is what i mean, if i had a gun like in the vid (which i feel is rather appropriate for a battleship or dreadnought, heck even titans) I wouldn't complain, and I'm sure guns are the right size, but there's nothing to show that size, the proportions does not make the size feel it's there
Eve in general has problems when showing proportion (understandable considering quite often there's nothing in space to show it) |
Shailagh
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.22 04:52:29 -
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lol who uses turrets anymore in Drones Online? Get a Gila/rattlesnake or isktar dude |
Trey Kutoi
Nyarlthotep Holdings Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.01.22 04:54:04 -
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Eve Has Sound?
on a more serious note, most of the eve sounds are terrible enough that I turned them off, save for a few critical ones (ie hull alarm) and some ambiance, (music, some thruster sounds, cargo scanner) I wouldn't mind a full sound remake, but I don't see it happening when we have more important things like "ruin ship models 2015" and whatnot |
Serene Repose
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Posted - 2015.01.22 04:54:15 -
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Qn'qura Zalas Zula
Aeon Ascendant
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Posted - 2015.01.22 04:55:20 -
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Makes me wonder how crazy my Incursus would have looked if the Capital blasters i mistakenly bought while drunk actually DID fit
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Kaelynne Rose
WTB Somalians
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Posted - 2015.01.22 05:35:12 -
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look at the ship real life size chart thingy. u are asking for guns that would be like several football lengths long. your crcruisebattleships are giiiiiiiiaaaant. guns shoulsnt be miles long dude.
super space people in the future will have smaller better guns if anything, not bigger.
also DRONES lol@turdets |
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Kaelynne Rose
WTB Somalians
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Posted - 2015.01.22 05:37:21 -
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Kieyra Marie Julian wrote: nor have any impressive sound cue that you weapon just unloaded a salvo of destruction. ? and of course, maybe try a different sound
space has no sound bear |
Kieyra Marie Julian
The L4 Runners
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Posted - 2015.01.22 05:47:22 -
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Kaelynne Rose wrote:look at the ship real life size chart thingy. u are asking for guns that would be like several football lengths long. your crcruisebattleships are giiiiiiiiaaaant. guns shoulsnt be miles long dude.
super space people in the future will have smaller better guns if anything, not bigger.
also DRONES lol@turdets
Still wouldn't stop biggers guns and sexier sounds from being awesome though =p |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.22 05:57:07 -
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Kieyra Marie Julian wrote:Kaelynne Rose wrote:look at the ship real life size chart thingy. u are asking for guns that would be like several football lengths long. your crcruisebattleships are giiiiiiiiaaaant. guns shoulsnt be miles long dude.
super space people in the future will have smaller better guns if anything, not bigger.
also DRONES lol@turdets Still wouldn't stop biggers guns and sexier sounds from being awesome though =p
turret envy ??? |
Provence Tristram
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
70
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Posted - 2015.01.22 06:15:35 -
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I feel like the railguns are a little underwhelming visually. But laser weapons and projectile turrets are both very appropriate. And, let's face it, a missile launcher is a missile launcher -- not really going to be visually spectacular. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.01.22 06:34:16 -
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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2015.01.22 07:13:55 -
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If realism is the concern, the size of the turet doesn't really bother me.
The idea that we are limited to 249 km when this is possible now kind of leaves me wondering.
Of course in reality if we are to become a space dwelling race the first thing I would figure out how to do is make a probe I can warp to and the only way you would ever find me is if I wanted you to. That wouldn't make for a very good combat driven game though. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2015.01.22 07:23:38 -
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The turrets are perfectly fine. The ships are too big.
And don't ever try to make sense of the cargo hold dimensions.
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Kieyra Marie Julian
The L4 Runners
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Posted - 2015.01.22 07:32:43 -
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Abrazzar wrote:The turrets are perfectly fine. The ships are too big.
And don't ever try to make sense of the cargo hold dimensions.
That's what I meant, proportion is off..let me edit the title so it causes no more confusion... |
Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
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Posted - 2015.01.22 08:08:40 -
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And, as we all know - it isn't the size. It's the sense of humor.
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Vyl Vit
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Posted - 2015.01.22 08:10:43 -
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Of course, super space people of the future won't have learned not to fight wars. They're as natural as ... inflated currency. Boob jobs. Movie sequels. Hot dogs.
Anyone with any sense has already left town.
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VaIefar Drekavac
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.22 12:05:40 -
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Kaelynne Rose wrote:look at the ship real life size chart thingy. u are asking for guns that would be like several football lengths long. your crcruisebattleships are giiiiiiiiaaaant. guns shoulsnt be miles long dude.
super space people in the future will have smaller better guns if anything, not bigger.
also DRONES lol@turdets
It's not like 11inch is THAT big (that's what she said).
Anyways @OP: is it ever big enough? I mean, really? |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2015.01.22 13:44:54 -
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Quanah Comanche wrote:Guns are appropriate sizes. Asian MMOs may suit you as for some reason they always have huge weapons. Relevant
I've always thought BS guns looked too small. The other classes are ok.
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Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
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Posted - 2015.01.22 18:57:01 -
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Shailagh wrote:lol who uses turrets anymore in Drones Online? Get a Gila/rattlesnake or isktar dude
Yep the game is now called EvE: Ishtar Online. |
Stitch Kaneland
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.22 19:06:18 -
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Qn'qura Zalas Zula wrote:Makes me wonder how crazy my Incursus would have looked if the Capital blasters i mistakenly bought while drunk actually DID fit
They might. They will be offline, but would sit on the hardpoints.
I used to fit x2 1400s on my cheetah. Were offline, but looked hilarious/menacing at the same time. Can only mount them in space though (unless they fixed this). Need a POS, or maybe mobile depot (havent tried depot). |
Yehala
FISHERS INC
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Posted - 2015.01.23 00:05:17 -
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I kinda agree, I'd like bigger turrets, especially on BattleShips
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The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2015.01.23 00:18:09 -
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Yeah! Turrets need to be bigger dammit!
Every other game I play, I can wield a sword that is taller than I am and swing it with the speed and precision of a kitana, or an axe that dwarfs my dwarf. To be appropriately sized in comparison, every ship needs to be able to fit one size larger turrets! Frigs with cruiser guns, cruisers with battleship guns and battleships with capital turrets! No clue what caps would use... I guess CCP better start designing XXL turrets or there will be hell to pay!
Maybe we need the spaceship equivalent of endgame mithril bikini armor for our ships too. You cant have a Stigmatic Epic Demon Sword of Polarized Blightness without the matching Demon Thong of the Destructive Fire Panda Mage Dragon. And capes. With fur. Who cares if its murder, this is serious business dammit.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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inta Vakaria
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.23 00:23:13 -
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To quote a certain gunnery chief "This, recruits, is a 20-kilo ferrous slug. Feel the weight. Every five seconds, the main gun of an Everest-class dreadnought accelerates one, to one-point-three percent of lightspeed. It impacts with the force a 38 kiloton bomb. That is three times the yield of the city buster dropped on Hiroshima back on Earth. That means, Sir Isacc Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-***** in space!" The same principle applies in eve, with the speed a projectile travels it doesn't need to be big to do huge damage, meaning the guns do not have to be huge either. |
Kieyra Marie Julian
The L4 Runners
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Posted - 2015.01.23 00:38:23 -
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inta Vakaria wrote:To quote a certain gunnery chief "This, recruits, is a 20-kilo ferrous slug. Feel the weight. Every five seconds, the main gun of an Everest-class dreadnought accelerates one, to one-point-three percent of lightspeed. It impacts with the force a 38 kiloton bomb. That is three times the yield of the city buster dropped on Hiroshima back on Earth. That means, Sir Isacc Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-***** in space!" The same principle applies in eve, with the speed a projectile travels it doesn't need to be big to do huge damage, meaning the guns do not have to be huge either.
That's an awesome phrase (i love mass effect)
So now tell me do you feel that awesomeness when your gun fires in eve? |
Amarant'h
Fistful of Finns Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2015.01.23 06:56:31 -
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Shailagh wrote:lol who uses turrets anymore in Drones Online? Get a Gila/rattlesnake or isktar dude
..and before this, it was "lol who uses drones and guns in missile online? Get a drake"
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Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
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Posted - 2015.01.23 07:20:31 -
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Serene Repose wrote:I know a short little guy with a turret so BIG he can't be tipped over from behind, but if knocked on his back, he looks like this magnificent flag pole! She's referring to me. (It's hard to be humble.)
Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.
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