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Badel Jramodarr
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Posted - 2015.01.22 07:21:31 -
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Ten attempts at explaining time.
Is time real? Does it matter if it is real or not? To me, it is merely a measuring instrument. Science relies on measurement to prove hypothesis so I find it interesting that being able to measure time brings us no closer to understanding it. Granted it may be the way we think of time is incorrect and, thus, gives us no real insight. Or... it doesn't exist and we're just fooling ourselves. Who knows?
Food for thought, none-the-less.
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Oinola Akachi
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.22 13:28:43 -
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Badel Jramodarr wrote:Ten attempts at explaining time.Is time real? Does it matter if it is real or not? To me, it is merely a measuring instrument.Science relies on measurement to prove hypothesis so I find it interesting that being able to measure time brings us no closer to understanding it. Granted it may be the way we think of time is incorrect and, thus, gives us no real insight. Or... it doesn't exist and we're just fooling ourselves. Who knows? Food for thought, none-the-less. It actually is a reference of movement of astronomical proportions in relation to a defined point. You can therefore have different times depending on what is that other reference point or observer.
There are a lot of factors involved in relation to this.
I read yesterday that it would take the Voyager satellite (which number I forgot now) 17,000 years to reach one light year. That is at around 0.006 % of the speed of light. I hope that it is not the fastest satellite ever yet.
I still don't believe that birth is going back in time, although there are genetic relations to this as well.
The perception of time can be directly related to what it means to us. The better our perception or the worst it is affects what it means to us. The better we perceive it, the better we can interact with it, within it, and so on. To be more in control of what we do or can do. It becomes easier to deal with its limits within its limits.
The same goes for many other things in life. We only each have a small amount of time to live and we have to make use of others work time to improve our work efficiency and results.
Time is related to black hole, speed of light and also mass, gravity and Energy. It would take energy to reach another solar system. Or other planets, celestial bodies, or asteroids. It is how we handle this time that will let us control the energies better. That is the energy we will need or which we will be able to use to achieve this goal. |
Mehrune Khan
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:26:47 -
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I hate time. There is never enough of it, no matter who you are. I think we would be better off without it. |
Rip van Winkle
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.22 14:28:34 -
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This is a topic for me... whe I am back at my PC ... ... even better when stoned but that's not doable.
Will reserve this spot for later use. :p
Also lol at the second post.
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Debora Tsung
Die Woge des Wahnsinns Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2015.01.22 15:02:45 -
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Tic Toc
Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Fighting back is more fun than not.
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Lachesiss
Jovian Vengeance The Jovian Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.22 16:44:55 -
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I have noticed time goes faster when im having fun and not so fast when im working
On the third day after your birth myself and my sister's will come to you and decide your fate.
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Mehrune Khan
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:21:23 -
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Lachesiss wrote:I have noticed time goes faster when im having fun and not so fast when im working
Which makes one have to ask: Is time evil? |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:59:31 -
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Badel Jramodarr wrote:
Is time real? Does it matter if it is real or not?
No and no.
All there is is now. This moment. Like a frame from a movie.
No past. No future. Only the eternal now.
Is that deep enough for you?
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Commissar Kate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.22 18:12:35 -
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Mehrune Khan wrote:Lachesiss wrote:I have noticed time goes faster when im having fun and not so fast when im working Which makes one have to ask: Is time evil?
No, but Sith Lord Amarr such as yourself are certainly evil.
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2015.01.23 03:00:55 -
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To think of it as a line going forward, some kind of continuous flow, is a fallacy. In one way, it does flow one way, like water from a tap. But in another way, it's more like it's all existing simultaneously. Sort of like different areas on a tabletop.
It happens that one can move from one area of the table to another. Not as in an popping out of an H.G. Wells time machine and walking around. But as in having one's consciousness, senses, and experiences located in another region of the table. (One is temporarily, for all intents and purposes, "existing" in another point in the "past" or "future." Bad terms-- better to say maybe, "points in the field of time").
Our ancestors around the world understood this concept. Well, they didn't understand it, they just lived it. (According to innocent autism spectrum 13-year-old Naoki Higashida in The Reason I Jump, modern autistic guys do the same). But eventually, brilliant people such as Newton and Descarte began trying to understand the time, matter, and everything else in quantified terms. It''s taken awhile for the mathematical and physics understanding to catch up. But I'd guess that current theory views time more as a field than a linear continuum. You guys who know, let give us the facts.
"My mule don't like laughing. You can apologize to my mule and can be alright."
-The Man with No Name
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Badel Jramodarr
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Posted - 2015.01.23 03:30:19 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:All there is is now. This moment. Like a frame from a movie. No past. No future. Only the eternal now. Is that deep enough for you? Mr Epeen I share the same sentiment. That's not overly deep in the grand scheme of things, feel free to delve deeper if you so choose.
Oinola Akachi wrote: The better we perceive it, the better we can interact with it, within it, and so on. To be more in control of what we do or can do. It becomes easier to deal with its limits within its limits.
The same goes for many other things in life.
We are always in control of what we do, we always have a choice of how we react to everything around us. Time holds no sway over it. Scientifically it is easier to work with something that has a limit, a finite point, but as far as humans are concerned, to have limits will always hold us back. Best to think outside limits, to overcome our own, percieved, limits, and to look beyond the limits of those around us, to see something more.
Lachesiss wrote:I have noticed time goes faster when im having fun and not so fast when im working Don't watch the clock ;)
Debora Tsung wrote: Tic Toc Tic Toc... *throws mechanical clock out the window*
I don't always have a signature; but when I do, it doesn't say anything at all
...I'm on a horse
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Badel Jramodarr
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Posted - 2015.01.23 05:23:10 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:To think of it as a line going forward, some kind of continuous flow, is a fallacy. In one way, it does flow one way, like water from a tap. But in another way, it's more like it's all existing simultaneously. Sort of like different areas on a tabletop. It happens that one can move from one area of the table to another. Not as in an popping out of an H.G. Wells time machine and walking around. But as in having one's consciousness, senses, and experiences located in another region of the table. (One is temporarily, for all intents and purposes, "existing" in another point in the "past" or "future." Bad terms-- better to say maybe, "points in the field of time"). Our ancestors around the world understood this concept. Well, they didn't understand it, they just lived it. (According to innocent autism spectrum 13-year-old Naoki Higashida in The Reason I Jump, modern autistic guys do the same). But eventually, brilliant people such as Newton and Descarte began trying to understand the time, matter, and everything else in quantified terms. It''s taken awhile for the mathematical and physics understanding to catch up. But I'd guess that current theory views time more as a field than a linear continuum. You guys who know, let give us the facts. I like the tabletop idea, if nothing else, as a thought experiment. It's an interesting concept which actually works with the concept of 'all we have is now'... which would be more accurate as 'all we percieve is now', but none-the-less, interesting...hmm.
The book looks like an interesting read, too, thanks. Will have to make time to read it.
I don't always have a signature; but when I do, it doesn't say anything at all
...I'm on a horse
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Vector Symian
0 Fear
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Posted - 2015.01.23 05:32:46 -
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Time is forwards and it is the memories measurement backwards.
Time is the force which defines and the light that guides us.
it is all it is nothing.
Formless yet impenetrable.
it is also the use by date on my packet of donuts...meh...they still guud
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Badel Jramodarr
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Posted - 2015.01.23 06:25:47 -
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Commissar Kate wrote:Mehrune Khan wrote:Lachesiss wrote:I have noticed time goes faster when im having fun and not so fast when im working Which makes one have to ask: Is time evil? No, but Sith Lord Amarr such as yourself are certainly evil. Lol, maybe he was having a bad day when the pic was taken. He could be a really nice guy
Vector Symian wrote:it is also the use by date on my packet of donuts...meh...they still guud hahaha
I don't always have a signature; but when I do, it doesn't say anything at all
...I'm on a horse
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2015.01.24 00:48:03 -
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Badel Jramodarr wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote: (According to innocent autism spectrum 13-year-old Naoki Higashida in The Reason I Jump, modern autistic guys do the same). I like the tabletop idea, if nothing else, as a thought experiment. It's an interesting concept which actually works with the concept of 'all we have is now'... which would be more accurate as 'all we percieve is now', but none-the-less, interesting...hmm. The book looks like an interesting read, too, thanks. Will have to make time to read it. An interesting thing is that the old Veda texts say pretty much the same thing. And the Carlos Castaneda books about Yaqui Native American shamanism/"sorcery" do too.
(I highly recommend The Reason I Jump and the first four Castaneda books, by the way).
"My mule don't like laughing. You can apologize to my mule and can be alright."
-The Man with No Name
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