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Intar Medris
Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
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Posted - 2015.02.14 11:20:33 -
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Yield my friend is the reason why to use a T2 barge, and they also have better caps and can fit better tanks. Problem is most miners have never heard of fitting a tank. I stopped flying Hulks and went to Skiffs. The reason is simple. The massive tank you can fit. 71K EHP without boosts vs 10K EHP on a hulk. Sure I give up a some yield, but I would see the gank fleet it would take to take down my Skiffs the moment they came in the system. Skiffs are notorious for the amount of firepower it takes to bring one down.
I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
501
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Posted - 2015.02.15 05:33:25 -
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Kinda scratching my head at these defeat code threads. Their organization is semi-dormant, all their FCs have quit...and their leader is nowhere to be found. Not to mention their spectacular failure in actually changing the risk/reward balance.
Asking how to beat code is like asking how to beat walter mondale...you win just by showing up. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
2346
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Posted - 2015.02.15 11:17:40 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Kinda scratching my head at these defeat code threads. Their organization is semi-dormant, all their FCs have quit...and their leader is nowhere to be found.
Our leader is nowhere to be found? John E Normus is frequently to be found in the minerbumping channel and in highsec. As for FCs, it's seldom I don't see one on our TS server and more in-game.
Now for my favourite part - stats.
Code: 2,052 kills in the last 14 days. Veers Belvar: 0
Ok, that's not really fair. Let's throw in January, December and November as well for him, giving us a grand total of *drumroll*
Veers Belvar: 0
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
643
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Posted - 2015.02.15 11:53:42 -
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Bu that doesnt include NPCs right?Im sure once we factor those in Veers has way more than......bwahahahaha sorry I cant finish that sentence wihtout breaking out laughing.
Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
you're welcome
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Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains.
1112
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Posted - 2015.02.15 13:02:37 -
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The logical way to defeat Code would be to uninstall this game and go about your business irl.
Just like Peter Pan left Never Never Land in the film Hook to grow up.
He even gave his stuff away to the Lost Boys before he left, but he still came back i suppose.
Who would play the various roles if they made a C&P remake of that classic is open to debate.
It would likely be a stinker of a film but i'm sure the tear jerking finale would be a blast.
Concord Approved Trader
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Six Beavers
New Order Logistics CODE.
32
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Posted - 2015.02.15 13:09:25 -
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Veers is certainly ahead in the "how many troll threads can i maintain in C&P this month" category. I hope his RL position as senior online legal document provider doesn't suffer. |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
502
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Posted - 2015.02.15 14:00:38 -
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Six Beavers wrote:Veers is certainly ahead in the "how many troll threads can i maintain in C&P this month" category. I hope his RL position as senior online legal document provider doesn't suffer.
Oh boy...there is a keeper...calling PvE players "carebears," "victims," "whiners," "prey," etc....isn't trolling....declaring that james 315 was somehow "elected" "savior of highsec" isn't trolling....but pointing out that code is failing in it's stated mission is trolling. Gotta give you credit for Alice in Wonderland style consistency.
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
502
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Posted - 2015.02.15 14:02:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Kinda scratching my head at these defeat code threads. Their organization is semi-dormant, all their FCs have quit...and their leader is nowhere to be found. Our leader is nowhere to be found? John E Normus is frequently to be found in the minerbumping channel and in highsec. As for FCs, it's seldom I don't see one on our TS server and more in-game. Now for my favourite part - stats. Code: 2,052 kills in the last 14 days. Veers Belvar: 0 Ok, that's not really fair. Let's throw in January, December and November as well for him, giving us a grand total of *drumroll* Veers Belvar: 0
John is only leader because James and Loyalanon, among others, quit the post. That doesn't exactly sound like a winning record. Further, highsec has more PvE than ever, your 2000 kills are but a drop in the bucket. And comparing kills with a PvE player..... |
Capt Starfox
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
837
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Posted - 2015.02.15 14:14:17 -
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FFS Veers stop being bad!
The New Order is a hierarchy with James at the very top.
There are several other leaders in the New Order and CODE. alliance alike.
James didn't quit, I don't know why you keep saying this. When the blog stops, then you can say James quit. Until then he's very much attached to what's going on with New Order and CODE. affairs.
Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
502
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Posted - 2015.02.15 15:49:50 -
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Capt Starfox wrote:FFS Veers stop being bad!
The New Order is a hierarchy with James at the very top.
There are several other leaders in the New Order and CODE. alliance alike.
James didn't quit, I don't know why you keep saying this. When the blog stops, then you can say James quit. Until then he's very much attached to what's going on with New Order and CODE. affairs.
Writing some blog posts and logging in once a month to send some isk is not "playing the game." He has given up...and it is time for you to do the same. The whole agenda to radically change highsec was flawed from the getgo...a few bored nullsec folks with some catalysts have no ability to materially change the gameplay experience of thousands of highsec PvE players. To think otherwise was always foolish.
Sad to see you waste your time on this hopeless endeavor...stick to wormholes. |
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Capt Starfox
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
837
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Posted - 2015.02.15 16:51:29 -
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Some? You mean usually once per day.
Playing a game is relative. Could logging into a video game be considered playing said video game? Some would say that technically does constitute playing that video game, others of course would say otherwise. I suppose you lean more towards the latter? I don't know about you, but if someone logged into a video game, intimately checked their in-game emails, wrote about those emails on a blog and handed out in-game currency for acting in one's behalf, yeah I'd say that's playing a video. I'd also say that's brilliant.
I started in Highsec with a Thrasher.
We must be doing something right, you're still here louder than ever.
Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
502
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Posted - 2015.02.15 17:39:01 -
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Capt Starfox wrote:Some? You mean usually once per day. Playing a game is relative. Could logging into a video game be considered playing said video game? Some would say that technically does constitute playing that video game, others of course would say otherwise. I suppose you lean more towards the latter? I don't know about you, but if someone logged into a video game, intimately checked their in-game emails, wrote about those emails on a blog and handed out in-game currency for acting in one's behalf, yeah I'd say that's playing a video game. I'd also say that's brilliant. I started in Highsec with a Thrasher. We must be doing something right, you're still here louder than ever. e: Well... a Rifter which I used to can flip in, then a Thrasher.
Good try Ms. Foxxie....from the blog posts I identify at least three distinct human writers...so James is certainly not writing every day.
And no, logging in to check mail and write is not playing the game. James tried bumping, tried ganking, tried running for CSM, tried fundamentally changing highsec, failed everywhere, and left the game. It's a sad tale Foxxie...and I'm worried the same will happen to you. Leave code before the stench of failure compels you to unsub. |
John E Normus
New Order Logistics CODE.
498
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Posted - 2015.02.16 04:30:42 -
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Hey Ms Foxxie, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Between Ignorance and Wisdom
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1157
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Posted - 2015.02.16 09:33:06 -
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I thought Veers was just another James 315 alt?
*drinks a beer*
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
2353
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Posted - 2015.02.16 09:57:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:[John is only leader because James and Loyalanon, among others, quit the post. That doesn't exactly sound like a winning record. Further, highsec has more PvE than ever, your 2000 kills are but a drop in the bucket. And comparing kills with a PvE player.....
Neither James 315, nor Loyalanon have ever held the position of CODE.'s executor. John's predecessor was Aria Stane, who founded the alliance. Try again.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
2353
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Posted - 2015.02.16 09:57:59 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:I thought Veers was just another James 315 alt?
Agent Veers is that good.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Intar Medris
Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
223
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Posted - 2015.02.16 11:01:07 -
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My prediction is once CCP fixes, yes fixes, SOV is the null bears will be too busy duking it out to even worry about trolling in high sec. Afterwards ganking will decrease back down to normal levels. It won't cease to exsist but won't be nearly as prevalent as it is now. There hasn't been a significant war in SOV null sec for some time. Why bother when the current mechanics are so broken and grindtastic.
I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1968
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Posted - 2015.02.16 11:14:05 -
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admiral root wrote:Veers Belvar: 0 Who ?
TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1968
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Posted - 2015.02.16 11:18:18 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:I thought Veers was just another James 315 alt? Confirming I am a James alt too.
TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
2355
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Posted - 2015.02.16 11:35:32 -
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Intar Medris wrote:Afterwards ganking will decrease back down to normal levels. It won't cease to exsist but won't be nearly as prevalent as it is now.
Oh, this should be good. What is your definition of "normal levels"?
Tora Bushido wrote:Confirming I am a James alt too.
Don't be so modest. Everyone knows James 315 is a Tora alt.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
622
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Posted - 2015.02.16 12:10:49 -
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Intar Medris wrote: Afterwards ganking will decrease back down to normal levels. If ganking was to return to previous historical levels, it would actually increase, not decrease.
Quote:It won't cease to exsist but won't be nearly as prevalent as it is now. Which is less prevalent than it has been in the past.
ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"
NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
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Intar Medris
Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
223
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Posted - 2015.02.16 13:00:47 -
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admiral root wrote:Intar Medris wrote:Afterwards ganking will decrease back down to normal levels. It won't cease to exsist but won't be nearly as prevalent as it is now. Oh, this should be good. What is your definition of "normal levels"? Tora Bushido wrote:Confirming I am a James alt too. Don't be so modest. Everyone knows James 315 is a Tora alt.
Well back around 2010ish preCODE outside of Hulkegeddon getting ganked was uncommon. You hardly ever saw a -10 too in high sec, and ganking freighters was almost unheard off. Pretty much the current ganking trend for the last two years is do too bored Null sec pilots.
I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.
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Capt Starfox
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
841
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Posted - 2015.02.16 15:09:42 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:
Good try Ms. Foxxie....from the blog posts I identify at least three distinct human writers...so James is certainly not writing every day.
And no, logging in to check mail and write is not playing the game. James tried bumping, tried ganking, tried running for CSM, tried fundamentally changing highsec, failed everywhere, and left the game. It's a sad tale Foxxie...and I'm worried the same will happen to you. Leave code before the stench of failure compels you to unsub.
I remember years ago when carebears were saying how the New Order wasn't doing anything and how is was going to fail. I believe around this time we were camping the static ice belts, but small in numbers. The carebears were so quick to say how our efforts were meaningless for [insert carebear reason here] and because of that the New Order wasn't going to accomplish anything; or, in your case, won't change Highsec.
Since then we have organized fleets that have caused hundreds of trillions worth of damage to Orcas, Freighters, mission runners, Barges/Exhumers, the standard T1/T2 hauler and various other types of ships (Frigates, pods, etc.).
Not to mention that CODE. and the New Order have become so well-known that we are often times brought up in articles and other blog posts for reference, or complaints.
You're some years too late. What you're saying has already been said and yet here we are. In fact, the only real difference is that we've grown since then.
Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
2360
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:57:29 -
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Intar Medris wrote:admiral root wrote:Intar Medris wrote:Afterwards ganking will decrease back down to normal levels. It won't cease to exsist but won't be nearly as prevalent as it is now. Oh, this should be good. What is your definition of "normal levels"? Tora Bushido wrote:Confirming I am a James alt too. Don't be so modest. Everyone knows James 315 is a Tora alt. Well back around 2010ish preCODE outside of Hulkegeddon getting ganked was uncommon. You hardly ever saw a -10 too in high sec, and ganking freighters was almost unheard off. Pretty much the current ganking trend for the last two years is do too bored Null sec pilots.
Well that's all very nice, but where are the facts to back that up? For example, are you aware that there's actually somewhere around 0.5% chance of losing your ship for any reason, not just ganking in three of the biggest gank systems in the game (source: dotlan on numerous occasions - you'll find the exact numbers in my post history).
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Cannibal Kane
Blood Raiders Elite
4744
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:59:31 -
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Intar Medris wrote:admiral root wrote:Intar Medris wrote:Afterwards ganking will decrease back down to normal levels. It won't cease to exsist but won't be nearly as prevalent as it is now. Oh, this should be good. What is your definition of "normal levels"? Tora Bushido wrote:Confirming I am a James alt too. Don't be so modest. Everyone knows James 315 is a Tora alt. Well back around 2010ish preCODE outside of Hulkegeddon getting ganked was uncommon. You hardly ever saw a -10 too in high sec, and ganking freighters was almost unheard off. Pretty much the current ganking trend for the last two years is do too bored Null sec pilots.
Also,
And please correct me if I am wrong but in fan fest 2 years ago CCP said ganking slowed down compared to previous years. The only difference now it is more advertised and people are now hitting bigger targets.
"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
508
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Posted - 2015.02.17 05:45:13 -
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Capt Starfox wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:
Good try Ms. Foxxie....from the blog posts I identify at least three distinct human writers...so James is certainly not writing every day.
And no, logging in to check mail and write is not playing the game. James tried bumping, tried ganking, tried running for CSM, tried fundamentally changing highsec, failed everywhere, and left the game. It's a sad tale Foxxie...and I'm worried the same will happen to you. Leave code before the stench of failure compels you to unsub.
I remember years ago when carebears were saying how the New Order wasn't doing anything and how is was going to fail. I believe around this time we were camping the static ice belts, but small in numbers. The carebears were so quick to say how our efforts were meaningless for [insert carebear reason here] and because of that the New Order wasn't going to accomplish anything; or, in your case, won't change Highsec. Since then we have organized fleets that have caused hundreds of trillions worth of damage to Orcas, Freighters, mission runners, Barges/Exhumers, the standard T1/T2 hauler and various other types of ships (Frigates, pods, etc.). Not to mention that CODE. and the New Order have become so well-known that we are often times brought up in articles and other blog posts for reference, or complaints. You're some years too late. What you're saying has already been said and yet here we are. In fact, the only real difference is that we've grown since then.
You didn't do anything. You blew up some pathetic miners. You griefed some noobs in ventures. You used cheap bumping tactics to kill a few freighters. Yippee ka yay yea. You have completely failed to even mildly perturb us elite mission and incursion runners. You managed to troll yourself in a staggering defeat in the AT, and now your leaders have all quit the game.
Ganking some pathetic afk ships is one thing, fundamentally changing the risk/reward balance in highsec is quite another. James is gone, Loyalanon is gone, Rabe Raptor is gone, I mean you guys are really scraping the bottom of the barrel days...all you got left is Chocolate Moose guy and people with unpronounceable names. It's more like an AA support group than an elite PvP organization....kinda like the misfit football team in the "Little Giants."
Ms. Foxxie...let's be real here...you gave it your all, but came up (way) short. Highsec was just too much for you. Sometimes you just gotta admit defeat, accept your place in the food chain, and move on. I'm always here if you need a shoulder to cry on. |
Zepher Helen Hawat
ULTRAMAR SECURITIES
38
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Posted - 2015.02.17 06:15:17 -
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Veers Belvar wrote: You have completely failed to even mildly perturb us elite mission and incursion runners.
Quick! Somebody get veers a bigger hat before his head gets so stuck we'll need a supercap to pull it free.
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Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY.
150
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Posted - 2015.02.19 16:26:50 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:
Good try Ms. Foxxie....from the blog posts I identify at least three distinct human writers...so James is certainly not writing every day.
And no, logging in to check mail and write is not playing the game.
Even if he writes once every 3 days, thats still impressive as to the amount of content he has created.
Quote: James tried bumping, tried ganking, tried running for CSM, tried fundamentally changing highsec, failed everywhere, and left the game. It's a sad tale Foxxie...and I'm worried the same will happen to you. Leave code before the stench of failure compels you to unsub.
Sounds like he was succesful, though. His alt, Currin Trading, has 60 billion isk worth of damages, which is quite impressive, and still 10 times more than youve killed. His bumping started a movement that has bumped countless thousands and inflicted trillions of isk worth of damage.
Hes done more than you. Far more. So if he failed, what does that make you? |
Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY.
150
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Posted - 2015.02.19 16:31:38 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Capt Starfox wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:
Good try Ms. Foxxie....from the blog posts I identify at least three distinct human writers...so James is certainly not writing every day.
And no, logging in to check mail and write is not playing the game. James tried bumping, tried ganking, tried running for CSM, tried fundamentally changing highsec, failed everywhere, and left the game. It's a sad tale Foxxie...and I'm worried the same will happen to you. Leave code before the stench of failure compels you to unsub.
I remember years ago when carebears were saying how the New Order wasn't doing anything and how is was going to fail. I believe around this time we were camping the static ice belts, but small in numbers. The carebears were so quick to say how our efforts were meaningless for [insert carebear reason here] and because of that the New Order wasn't going to accomplish anything; or, in your case, won't change Highsec. Since then we have organized fleets that have caused hundreds of trillions worth of damage to Orcas, Freighters, mission runners, Barges/Exhumers, the standard T1/T2 hauler and various other types of ships (Frigates, pods, etc.). Not to mention that CODE. and the New Order have become so well-known that we are often times brought up in articles and other blog posts for reference, or complaints. You're some years too late. What you're saying has already been said and yet here we are. In fact, the only real difference is that we've grown since then. You didn't do anything. You blew up some pathetic miners. You griefed some noobs in ventures. You used cheap bumping tactics to kill a few freighters. Yippee ka yay yea. You have completely failed to even mildly perturb us elite mission and incursion runners. You managed to troll yourself in a staggering defeat in the AT, and now your leaders have all quit the game. Ganking some pathetic afk ships is one thing, fundamentally changing the risk/reward balance in highsec is quite another. James is gone, Loyalanon is gone, Rabe Raptor is gone, I mean you guys are really scraping the bottom of the barrel days...all you got left is Chocolate Moose guy and people with unpronounceable names. It's more like an AA support group than an elite PvP organization....kinda like the misfit football team in the "Little Giants." Ms. Foxxie...let's be real here...you gave it your all, but came up (way) short. Highsec was just too much for you. Sometimes you just gotta admit defeat, accept your place in the food chain, and move on. I'm always here if you need a shoulder to cry on.
Yeah, code has lost trillions of isk, while only managing to inflict a mere couple billion isk of damage. Clearly they lost. Theres no sticky GM thread regarding bumping or hyperdunking. People never complain about Code. People never constantly post threads about how they lost(i.e. you). People never constantly complain about how ganking is too easy, too frequent, should be nerfed, etc. Miners arent telling other miners to tank their ships, or fly skiffs. Industrials arent telling other industrials how to tank their freighters and industrial ships. We dont have a channel dedicated to Anti-ganking and anti-code activities.
Code lost, becuase none of this is true. None of this, happened.
Wait, i thought today was opposite day. My mistake. |
Azov Rassau
Neo CONCORD
176
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Posted - 2015.03.05 10:51:38 -
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I believe this thread deserves a bump. As an addition to the very good points made by Seraph, I highly recommend all highsec miners to check out the counter-ganking gameplay that comes from this ECM Skiff idea. It is one of the many simple examples of what can be achieved if more miners change their attitude. of course, to do this they will have to stay at keyboard and concentrate on their fun/hour, not ISK/hour.
and stop whining. Play the game. If you don't like gankers, step up, HTFU and fight or avoid them. you (and they) will have fun while making highsec a better place overall.. there is a reason why most gankers are happy to see people who fight them: Fun.
Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:That expression just about covers it I know right? That expression is monumental. It represents the reaction of entire C&P community to the whine threads. I hope that one day CCP will make a sculpture/monument of that expression on Esja mountains in the north of Reykjavik.
No AFKing. Safety First. Use D-Scan, Check Local. Be Alert.
www.GankerJamming.com
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