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waflat maplat
Muhajin
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Posted - 2015.01.24 08:20:13 -
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should CCP get rid of the PLEX system?
I have been thinking, would it not be better if CCP would get rid of the PLEX system and allow players to buy ISK straight from CCP? It would solve some of the issue groups have with multi client players, because they make everything cheap on the market which is wrong (i do not like cheap pvp).
What can be solved in a more durable game play in the long run.
Ganker alt; It would reduce them, so the real gankers with real fleets can do their thing instead multi-account (gankers who live in high sec as care bear but gank with an alt they would not pay for it in the first place if they had to). Trading alts; it would reduce them so real traders can trade instead alts just to PLEX. It will bring back real Scouting or camping done by real groups of different people instead AFK alt camping or scouting gates while bein in NPC corporations and their mains at war for example. Pve; it would reduce single player fleets/multi-accounts so they cant feed the market that fast to just PLEX and because that make everything cheap (harcore working eve player does not like cheap stuff). Incursion runners; it would reduce single player/multi client fleets so they cant feed the market to just PLEX and make everything cheap, those that dont want to pay for their accounts need other real players in the fleet. Faction warfare, maybe we get real war instead multi clients disgusting camping plex crap Miner alt; it would solve that as well, those that really like to mine would pay for all their miners instead mining to plex.
all above would solve a lot disgusting stuff going on in the game because alts and PLEX.
maybe if CCP would get rid of the PLEX system, the plex greed would be gone and maybe we would get a better game play where everything does not depend on PLEX. people who want to pay for multi clients will pay for them and use them more wise.
i think buying ISK from CCP instead of buying PLEX to sell on the market would make the game maybe better in the long run, and everyone just pay for their accounts or those who want to pay for them.
this would be the solution for a lot of big groups in the game, since it would bring in less what they hate in the game, which is everything. maybe it will bring the real game play back instead all of the players just grind for the PLEX and becouse that the market becomes overloaded and to cheap. And so some groups can be happy because it would feed the market less because the mindless grind in the game all for the PLEX would be gone and everything would be more expensive which we all love.
CCP would still have the same income becouse we can buy ISK from them. i suggest 1.5B for 20$ so all the mindless grind in the game would be gone becouse no player ever has to grind for plex anymore
Should it be open for discussion? share your opinion please. |
Sekk Hardeen
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.24 08:23:27 -
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No. PLEX system is one of the greatest things about this game, and in short, you have no clue what you are talking about. |
Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion The Bastion
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Posted - 2015.01.24 08:39:28 -
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Your pretense is wrong, PLEX does not generate ISK.
As such, didn't bother with the rest of the post. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2015.01.24 08:42:05 -
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CCP selling ISK would create ISK out of nowhere. CCP selling PLEXes and allowing them to be traded on the market is using ISK already in the system.
One is community deprived, the other is community created.
The PLEX system is probably the most innovative thing in the MMO market.
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Wadaya
Trailerpark Industries
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Posted - 2015.01.24 08:42:44 -
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Plex transfers ISK from one player to another. Buying ISK directly from CCP would inject ISK into the economy just like insurance and bounties/missions.
If you had even thought your whole idea through, you would realize under your solution, by buying directly from CCP, things would get even more expensive than they are now, not less. |
Thebriwan
LUX Uls Xystus
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Posted - 2015.01.24 08:44:54 -
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OP you seem to have the illusion that multiple accounts only exists because of PLEX . You are wrong.
Multi-account-users existed way before that.
PLEX do two important things: they give the possibility to pay for more accounts for ISK AND to get ISK for real money.
Your proposition cuts one of this two thing out. And this would be bad.
And you overseeing the fact that there are players that are using PLEX for their only account. |
Isalone
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2015.01.24 08:59:38 -
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Guys stop feeding the troll, please. |
Serene Repose
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Posted - 2015.01.24 09:14:55 -
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After they do that, they should tackle the nose wart problem that's plagued mankind for thousands of years.
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Mag's
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Posted - 2015.01.24 09:18:20 -
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waflat maplat wrote:should CCP get rid of the PLEX system? Only to stop ridiculous, ill informed threads like this one.
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waflat maplat
Muhajin
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Posted - 2015.01.24 09:27:01 -
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Abrazzar wrote:CCP selling ISK would create ISK out of nowhere. CCP selling PLEXes and allowing them to be traded on the market is using ISK already in the system.
One is community deprived, the other is community created.
The PLEX system is probably the most innovative thing in the MMO market.
The starter ISK, mission rewards and bounty on NPC is the roots of all isk in EVE. that is the same as out of nowhere, it is brought in the game by CCP.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.24 09:31:49 -
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Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
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Posted - 2015.01.24 09:36:13 -
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So rather than not inject Isk at all using the plex system, it just changes hands, the OP would rather have CCP create Isk out of nothing. |
Nate Hill
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.24 09:46:01 -
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Getting rid of PLEX probably means getting closer to bankruptcy. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2015.01.24 09:53:41 -
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waflat maplat wrote:Abrazzar wrote:CCP selling ISK would create ISK out of nowhere. CCP selling PLEXes and allowing them to be traded on the market is using ISK already in the system.
One is community deprived, the other is community created.
The PLEX system is probably the most innovative thing in the MMO market. The starter ISK, mission rewards and bounty on NPC is the roots of all isk in EVE. that is the same as out of nowhere, it is brought in the game by CCP. It is brought into the game by players playing the game. Big difference.
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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
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Posted - 2015.01.24 10:00:26 -
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My God, it's full of dumb!
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waflat maplat
Muhajin
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Posted - 2015.01.24 10:06:17 -
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Abrazzar wrote:waflat maplat wrote:Abrazzar wrote:CCP selling ISK would create ISK out of nowhere. CCP selling PLEXes and allowing them to be traded on the market is using ISK already in the system.
One is community deprived, the other is community created.
The PLEX system is probably the most innovative thing in the MMO market. The starter ISK, mission rewards and bounty on NPC is the roots of all isk in EVE. that is the same as out of nowhere, it is brought in the game by CCP. It is brought into the game by players playing the game. Big difference.
That is good, means no matter what one is doing in EVE, he is still playing the game. One would be nothing without the other.
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Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.24 10:09:26 -
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waflat maplat wrote:Some ill thought out crap Nope
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.01.24 11:01:41 -
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-1/10
Never expected someone to be SO clueless about a basic game mechanic.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.24 11:15:58 -
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do whatever but i need to buy another two pack first because i'm lazy and my golem character needs a new golem.
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
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Posted - 2015.01.24 11:39:35 -
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terrible idea, OP hasn't a clue what it's talking about. |
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Provence Tristram
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.24 11:41:11 -
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No. I love the plex system. |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2015.01.24 13:07:18 -
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Confirming there was no such thing as alts before PLEX.
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TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
1004
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Posted - 2015.01.24 14:02:25 -
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CCP should:
1. Get rid of PLEX completely. 2. Allow players to buy gametime and other services directly with Aurum, in different durations. 7 days, 14 days, 30 days, etc. With the more gametime you buy, the less Aurum it costs. 3. Allow Aurum to be traded on the market like PLEX are now.
Benefit being that instead of three 'currencies' being in circulation there will only be two. Sadly in the CSM minutes CCP mentioned that they had no intention of allowing Aurum to be traded for ISK. I don't understand why because it would work exactly the same as PLEX do right now, but without the hassle of juggling three currencies around.
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Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion The Bastion
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Posted - 2015.01.24 14:07:09 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:CCP should:
1. Get rid of PLEX completely. 2. Allow players to buy gametime and other services directly with Aurum, in different durations. 7 days, 14 days, 30 days, etc. With the more gametime you buy, the less Aurum it costs per day. 3. Allow Aurum to be traded on the market like PLEX are now.
Benefit being that instead of three 'currencies' being in circulation there will only be two. Sadly in the CSM minutes CCP mentioned that they had no intention of allowing Aurum to be traded for ISK. I don't understand why because it would work exactly the same as PLEX do right now, but without the hassle of juggling three currencies around.
Sooo, 7 days would be like 1000, 14 days 900 and 30 days 800 AUR? |
TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.24 14:14:11 -
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Adrie Atticus wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:CCP should:
1. Get rid of PLEX completely. 2. Allow players to buy gametime and other services directly with Aurum, in different durations. 7 days, 14 days, 30 days, etc. With the more gametime you buy, the less Aurum it costs per day. 3. Allow Aurum to be traded on the market like PLEX are now.
Benefit being that instead of three 'currencies' being in circulation there will only be two. Sadly in the CSM minutes CCP mentioned that they had no intention of allowing Aurum to be traded for ISK. I don't understand why because it would work exactly the same as PLEX do right now, but without the hassle of juggling three currencies around. Sooo, 7 days would be like 1000, 14 days 900 and 30 days 800 AUR?
Something like that, I don't know the exact conversion rate from Dollar to Aurum atm, but you get the idea.
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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.24 15:22:56 -
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I only have 1 question for the OP, adn this is serious, no troll.
OP, exactly what drugs are legal in your country, and how much do you think you spend on them monthly? |
Druadan
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.24 15:47:28 -
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PLEX being able to be bought with ISK is fantastic. I've never made use of it myself, but it's good for the game. It's an ISK sink, removing ISK from the game for an item generated to be exhausted by its use.
PLEX being able to be bought with real money and then sold for ISK is horrible. It's pay to win. That said, I'm not sure what a good alternative to fighting ISK sellers is. Aside from extensive propogation of the warning that CCP will find you and they will remove the bought ISK. Back in the day, we only ever heard about it when the ISK buyer went to the forum to complain.
Let 2015 be the year that CCP ends its builtin support for metagaming.
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Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion The Bastion
872
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Posted - 2015.01.24 15:53:52 -
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Druadan wrote:PLEX being able to be bought with ISK is fantastic. I've never made use of it myself, but it's good for the game. It's an ISK sink, removing ISK from the game for an item generated to be exhausted by its use.
PLEX being able to be bought with real money and then sold for ISK is horrible. It's pay to win. That said, I'm not sure what a good alternative to fighting ISK sellers is. Aside from extensive propogation of the warning that CCP will find you and they will remove the bought ISK. Back in the day, we only ever heard about it when the ISK buyer went to the forum to complain.
You do realize that the first part isn't how PLEX works. It works like your 2nd paragraph.
You heard it here first, Eve is fully P2W. |
Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2015.01.24 16:40:43 -
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waflat maplat wrote:should CCP get rid of the PLEX system?
I have been thinking, would it not be better if CCP would get rid of the PLEX system and allow players to buy ISK straight from CCP?
Not only no, but hell no.
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
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Posted - 2015.01.24 17:24:09 -
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No. I can not afford to grind missions for hours and hours. I basicly run on plex.
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