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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
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Posted - 2015.01.27 04:00:00 -
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Thebriwan wrote:OP you seem to have the illusion that multiple accounts only exists because of PLEX . You are wrong.
Multi-account-users existed way before that.
PLEX do two important things: they give the possibility to pay for more accounts for ISK AND to get ISK for real money.
Your proposition cuts one of this two thing out. And this would be bad.
And you overseeing the fact that there are players that are using PLEX for their only account.
confirmed, started in 2005, alts existed then.....you know before plex existed
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
26
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Posted - 2015.01.27 04:30:03 -
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Raiz Nhell wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:Val'Dore wrote:I never said the sink could eat JP Morgan. But a sink is a sink is a sink, don't turn it into a fountain. How many times does it need to be said. The transaction of Plex never eliminates isk from the game... ever so while a sink is a sink, there is no sink here... just someone who really doesn't understand. Do PLEX transactions get taxed? Yes Is the Transaction tax an isk sink (Takes isk out of the game)? Yes For example 10% Tax Me: Plex You: 1bill isk Market Magic! Me: 990mil You: Plex Holy Dominix Poo!! Where did that ISK go?!?!? Into a sink dear fellow. It appears that someone doesn't understand.
Ok genius... you know market tax isn't 10% right? and if it was... Maths is hard.
But anyways, no one is paying full tax price... well maybe you are. ALL TRANSACTIONS ARE TAXED, that isn't a plex specific sink.
And again, to reverse this... turn it into a fountain you say? If I sell you a plex for isk, the isk isn't created... if I sell you a plex for AUR, the AUR isn't created either lol |
Sugar Smacks
State War Academy Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2015.01.27 04:59:05 -
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If you mean to remove it and make Aurum the only currency, where we can trade aurum for gametime, then maybe.
If you mean to remove it and not be able to basically turn isk into gametime, then no, your crazy.
I could see there being just 2 currencys isk/aurum but theres really no advantage to do this. |
Brainless Bimbo
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
85
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Posted - 2015.01.28 17:56:37 -
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Umm.... Plex is a sink.....
ISK is generated in game constantly People use REAL MONEY to buy a PLEX People trade Plex for ISK people use ISK to buy services with REAL MONEY value, ie account sub / dual training That ISK is removed from game.
The ISK is not just moved around, it disappears because PLEX was used as REAL MONEY out side of game to provide dual training or alt accounts. Not all PLEX end up sunk as ISK, buying ships and modules is not a sink, but buying game time and dual training are.
The arum thing is the CCP Incarna clusterfrack writ large, a sneeky way for micro transaction introduction buffered from the game environment.
already dead, just haven-¦t fallen over yet....
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1532
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Posted - 2015.01.28 18:03:04 -
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Brainless Bimbo wrote:Umm.... Plex is a sink..... ISK is generated in game constantly People use REAL MONEY to buy a PLEX People trade Plex for ISK people use ISK to buy services with REAL MONEY value, ie account sub / dual training That ISK is removed from game. The ISK is not just moved around, it disappears because PLEX was used as REAL MONEY out side of game to provide dual training or alt accounts. Not all PLEX end up sunk as ISK, buying ships and modules is not a sink, but buying game time and dual training are. The arum thing is the CCP Incarna clusterfrack writ large, a sneeky way for micro transaction introduction buffered from the game environment.
Only the transaction tax is a sink (and a rather small one at that) because all PLEX on the market are listed by players. The ISK never get deleted because it goes to the other player's wallet. The PLEX is getting "destroyed" by purchasing game time/dual training but the ISK is still in the seller's wallet so it was never "sunk". |
Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
73
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Posted - 2015.01.28 18:10:41 -
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I dont mind Plex For $20 However I should be geting 2 billion isk not this not 600 million 1 day and 800million another day the price should be the same thats why they need to get rid of this player economics dosnt make sense instead have a CCP Store where you Buy everything like any normal MMO .
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Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
37
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Posted - 2015.01.28 18:17:51 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:I dont mind Plex For $20 However I should be geting 2 billion isk not this not 600 million 1 day and 800million another day the price should be the same thats why they need to get rid of this player economics dosnt make sense instead have a CCP Store where you Buy everything like any normal MMO .
I mind that there is a direct way to lose real life money by the actions of others in the game, be it gank, scam or market manipulation.
All other items in game are filtered through in game isk, so there is a slight disconnect. But Plex is bought straight up and can be lost without in game isk ever being part of the equation.
For that reason alone I would love to see it moved off market and into the NES only. There should never be a way for a player in the game to virtually put their hand in my wallet. |
Brainless Bimbo
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
85
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Posted - 2015.01.28 18:20:08 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Brainless Bimbo wrote:Umm.... Plex is a sink..... ISK is generated in game constantly People use REAL MONEY to buy a PLEX People trade Plex for ISK people use ISK to buy services with REAL MONEY value, ie account sub / dual training That ISK is removed from game. The ISK is not just moved around, it disappears because PLEX was used as REAL MONEY out side of game to provide dual training or alt accounts. Not all PLEX end up sunk as ISK, buying ships and modules is not a sink, but buying game time and dual training are. The arum thing is the CCP Incarna clusterfrack writ large, a sneeky way for micro transaction introduction buffered from the game environment. Only the transaction tax is a sink (and a rather small one at that) because all PLEX on the market are listed by players. The ISK never get deleted because it goes to the other player's wallet. The PLEX is getting "destroyed" by purchasing game time/dual training but the ISK is still in the seller's wallet so it was never "sunk".
you`re right, the ISK still exists its just like buying a module for real cash on e-bay and selling it in game for ISK.
But whether its a sink or not is irrelevant, its role is to kill real money trading for ISK/items, it was not designed to act as any thing else when all is said and done.
already dead, just haven-¦t fallen over yet....
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1532
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Posted - 2015.01.28 18:27:13 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:I dont mind Plex For $20 However I should be geting 2 billion isk not this not 600 million 1 day and 800million another day the price should be the same thats why they need to get rid of this player economics dosnt make sense instead have a CCP Store where you Buy everything like any normal MMO . I mind that there is a direct way to lose real life money by the actions of others in the game, be it gank, scam or market manipulation. All other items in game are filtered through in game isk, so there is a slight disconnect. But Plex is bought straight up and can be lost without in game isk ever being part of the equation. For that reason alone I would love to see it moved off market and into the NES only. There should never be a way for a player in the game to virtually put their hand in my wallet.
THey enver put their hands in your wallet. The $$$ value of a PLEX is null as it can't be legally converted into $$$. They never raeched for your wallet, only some in-game assets you were silly enough to move in a ship when there is actually no need to ever do so. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24875
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Posted - 2015.01.28 18:29:06 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:I mind that there is a direct way to lose real life money by the actions of others in the game, be it gank, scam or market manipulation. There really isn't. There is no way for other players to make trades through your account unless you've done something silly and banworthy such as hand them the login details.
Losing a PLEX is losing a PLEX. It is not GÇ£real-life moneyGÇ¥ any more (that money now sits in CCP's accounts). More than that, though, there's never any reason to lose PLEX to begin with unless you do something that even more silly than handing out your login details willy-nilly.
Oh, and on the topic of faucets and sinks, time for some good old copypasta:
ISK Faucets:- NPC bounties: Exploration, Belt rats, Missions
- NPC buy orders: Trade goods, Sleeper loot, Overseer effects, Tags
- Agent rewards: Mission rewards, Mission time bonuses, Incursion rewards, Deposit repayment
- Insurance payout
- GM actions: Reimbursement for lost pods
- Character creation
ISK Sinks:- Market taxes & fees: Broker fees, Sales tax
- NPC sell orders: Blueprints, Skill books, Trade goods
- NPC station services: Repairs, Clone installation, Ship insurance
- NPC station office fees: Rent, Impound penalties
- Science and industry taxes
- Wardecs
- Reimbursed player bounties.
- Sovereignty fees
- PI fees: Building PI structures, Import/export tax (from NPC-controlled customs offices)
- Corp & alliance fees: Corp creation, Alliance creation, Alliance upkeep, Creating/awarding medals, Corp registry ads
- Agent fees: (Certain) LP store items, Locator agent services, Courier missions w/ deposits
- CSPA Charges
- Smuggling fines
- GM Actions: Removal of bought ISK, Removal of insurance after ship reimbursement
- Character deletion (including the GÇ£soft sinkGÇ¥ of accounts being frozen or banned, and the even softer sink of accounts being abandoned forever)
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
39
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Posted - 2015.01.28 18:29:59 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:I dont mind Plex For $20 However I should be geting 2 billion isk not this not 600 million 1 day and 800million another day the price should be the same thats why they need to get rid of this player economics dosnt make sense instead have a CCP Store where you Buy everything like any normal MMO . I mind that there is a direct way to lose real life money by the actions of others in the game, be it gank, scam or market manipulation. All other items in game are filtered through in game isk, so there is a slight disconnect. But Plex is bought straight up and can be lost without in game isk ever being part of the equation. For that reason alone I would love to see it moved off market and into the NES only. There should never be a way for a player in the game to virtually put their hand in my wallet. THey enver put their hands in your wallet. The $$$ value of a PLEX is null as it can't be legally converted into $$$. They never raeched for your wallet, only some in-game assets you were silly enough to move in a ship when there is actually no need to ever do so.
I buy a plex for $15 and it gets scammed from me or blown up... it feels like you just took $15 from me.
You scam me for a Pith mod worth 1bil isk, I lost 1bil isk.
I know it is semantics, but it feels dirty.
And no lol, Plex doesn't stop being worth $15 just because it is in game now... it still has a replacement value of $15 |
Brainless Bimbo
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
85
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Posted - 2015.01.28 18:36:51 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:I dont mind Plex For $20 However I should be geting 2 billion isk not this not 600 million 1 day and 800million another day the price should be the same thats why they need to get rid of this player economics dosnt make sense instead have a CCP Store where you Buy everything like any normal MMO . I mind that there is a direct way to lose real life money by the actions of others in the game, be it gank, scam or market manipulation. All other items in game are filtered through in game isk, so there is a slight disconnect. But Plex is bought straight up and can be lost without in game isk ever being part of the equation. For that reason alone I would love to see it moved off market and into the NES only. There should never be a way for a player in the game to virtually put their hand in my wallet.
A PLEX is not real life money in any sense, when activated in game its real cash value actually disappears and it becomes just an item you bought like an afterburner and CCP at their whim can remove or delete it or turn it into a Fredo, or us players can say its only worth 0.01 ISK.
Also its the only item that u can use in a different region from where you are ( so shop around people) so there is NO reason ever to carry one in a ship, so if it can get lost its down to user stupidity not CCP design.
already dead, just haven-¦t fallen over yet....
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24878
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Posted - 2015.01.28 18:39:34 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:I know it is semantics, but it feels dirty. It's not just semantics, it's a matter of actual value. A PLEX has a value of 800M ISK or a couple of account services, including 30 days worth of training time. It does not have the value of $15 any more.
Quote:And no lol, Plex doesn't stop being worth $15 just because it is in game now... it still has a replacement value of $15 No. It has a replacement value of 800M ISK or an account service. How you choose to acquire those can and will vary. At no point can you exchange your PLEX for $15, though.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1532
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Posted - 2015.01.28 18:41:49 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:I dont mind Plex For $20 However I should be geting 2 billion isk not this not 600 million 1 day and 800million another day the price should be the same thats why they need to get rid of this player economics dosnt make sense instead have a CCP Store where you Buy everything like any normal MMO . I mind that there is a direct way to lose real life money by the actions of others in the game, be it gank, scam or market manipulation. All other items in game are filtered through in game isk, so there is a slight disconnect. But Plex is bought straight up and can be lost without in game isk ever being part of the equation. For that reason alone I would love to see it moved off market and into the NES only. There should never be a way for a player in the game to virtually put their hand in my wallet. THey enver put their hands in your wallet. The $$$ value of a PLEX is null as it can't be legally converted into $$$. They never raeched for your wallet, only some in-game assets you were silly enough to move in a ship when there is actually no need to ever do so. I buy a plex for $15 and it gets scammed from me or blown up... it feels like you just took $15 from me. You scam me for a Pith mod worth 1bil isk, I lost 1bil isk. I know it is semantics, but it feels dirty. And no lol, Plex doesn't stop being worth $15 just because it is in game now... it still has a replacement value of $15
The real value of a PLEX is whatever service CCP offer for a PLEX OR what player are willing to pay for it in game assets, nothing else. It has no monetary value at all. You might remember how much money it cost you to aquire it but the item itself is not worth that money.
@Tippia, not sure how Deposit payment from NPC can be a faucet seeing as you have to pay it first to launch the mission which if succesfull will pay it back. It's actually a sink if the player somehow fail the mission. |
Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
43
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Posted - 2015.01.28 18:42:07 -
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Tippia wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:I know it is semantics, but it feels dirty. It's not just semantics, it's a matter of actual value. A PLEX has a value of 800M ISK or a couple of account services, including 30 days worth of training time. It does not have the value of $15 any more. Quote:And no lol, Plex doesn't stop being worth $15 just because it is in game now... it still has a replacement value of $15 No. It has a replacement value of 800M ISK or an account service. How you choose to acquire those can and will vary. At no point can you exchange your PLEX for $15, though.
How much does it cost to buy a new plex to replace the one you lost?
Dude, you really are a troll |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1532
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Posted - 2015.01.28 18:44:03 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:Tippia wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:I know it is semantics, but it feels dirty. It's not just semantics, it's a matter of actual value. A PLEX has a value of 800M ISK or a couple of account services, including 30 days worth of training time. It does not have the value of $15 any more. Quote:And no lol, Plex doesn't stop being worth $15 just because it is in game now... it still has a replacement value of $15 No. It has a replacement value of 800M ISK or an account service. How you choose to acquire those can and will vary. At no point can you exchange your PLEX for $15, though. How much does it cost to buy a new plex to replace the one you lost? Dude, you really are a troll
Monetary cost to replace is irrelevant. The value of something is equal to what you can get for it, not what you need to get an additionnal one. |
Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
43
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Posted - 2015.01.28 18:45:17 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:Tippia wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:I know it is semantics, but it feels dirty. It's not just semantics, it's a matter of actual value. A PLEX has a value of 800M ISK or a couple of account services, including 30 days worth of training time. It does not have the value of $15 any more. Quote:And no lol, Plex doesn't stop being worth $15 just because it is in game now... it still has a replacement value of $15 No. It has a replacement value of 800M ISK or an account service. How you choose to acquire those can and will vary. At no point can you exchange your PLEX for $15, though. How much does it cost to buy a new plex to replace the one you lost? Dude, you really are a troll Monetary cost to replace is irrelevant. The value of something is equal to what you can get for it, not what you need to get an additionnal one.
It is not irrelevent. There is only ONE place to get plex. Whether you use isk or money Plex comes from CCP for $15. So the replacement value of Plex is always $15 or whatever CCP is charging these days. |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1532
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Posted - 2015.01.28 18:48:55 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:
It is not irrelevent. There is only ONE place to get plex. Whether you use isk or money Plex comes from CCP for $15. So the replacement value of Plex is always $15 or whatever CCP is charging these days.
No. The value you lose if someone scam you out of a PLEX is not the value you paid for because the item does not have that value. It has the ISK value of what the market is willing to pay for it or whatever service CCP is willing to grant you for a PLEX.
For a PLEX to have a value of 15$, it would have to be possible to sell it for 15$.
There is only one way to get PLEX from CCP but you can get PLEX elsewhere like on the market. The value of an item is not what you PAID for it but what the market is willing to pay for it as you could of been scammed on the price. If I buy a gum for 5 million USD, it does not mean my gum is worth 5 million, it only mean I'm an idiot for paying 5 million for a gum with barely any actual value. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24878
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Posted - 2015.01.28 18:49:38 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:How much does it cost to buy a new plex to replace the one you lost? Oh, about 5 minutes, I've been told.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
45
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Posted - 2015.01.28 18:49:43 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:
It is not irrelevent. There is only ONE place to get plex. Whether you use isk or money Plex comes from CCP for $15. So the replacement value of Plex is always $15 or whatever CCP is charging these days.
No. The value you lose if someone scam you out of a PLEX is not the value you paid for because the item does not have that value. It has the ISK value of what the market is willing to pay for it or whatever service CCP is willing to grant you for a PLEX. For a PLEX to have a value of 15$, it would have to be possible to sell it for 15$.
ok, You obviously do not know what the term "REPLACEMENT COST" means.
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1532
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Posted - 2015.01.28 18:51:53 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:
It is not irrelevent. There is only ONE place to get plex. Whether you use isk or money Plex comes from CCP for $15. So the replacement value of Plex is always $15 or whatever CCP is charging these days.
No. The value you lose if someone scam you out of a PLEX is not the value you paid for because the item does not have that value. It has the ISK value of what the market is willing to pay for it or whatever service CCP is willing to grant you for a PLEX. For a PLEX to have a value of 15$, it would have to be possible to sell it for 15$. ok, You obviously do not know what the term "REPLACEMENT COST" means.
For a dude called Market McSelling Alt, you sure as hell don't understand what the value of an item is. |
Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
45
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Posted - 2015.01.28 18:53:35 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:
It is not irrelevent. There is only ONE place to get plex. Whether you use isk or money Plex comes from CCP for $15. So the replacement value of Plex is always $15 or whatever CCP is charging these days.
No. The value you lose if someone scam you out of a PLEX is not the value you paid for because the item does not have that value. It has the ISK value of what the market is willing to pay for it or whatever service CCP is willing to grant you for a PLEX. For a PLEX to have a value of 15$, it would have to be possible to sell it for 15$. ok, You obviously do not know what the term "REPLACEMENT COST" means. For a dude called Market McSelling Alt, you sure as hell don't understand what the value of an item is.
Value of an item and replacement value of an item... Since there is only one place to get plex, replacement value of an item is the amount your credit card is hit on CCP's website. This isn't that hard. |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1532
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Posted - 2015.01.28 18:54:58 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:
It is not irrelevent. There is only ONE place to get plex. Whether you use isk or money Plex comes from CCP for $15. So the replacement value of Plex is always $15 or whatever CCP is charging these days.
No. The value you lose if someone scam you out of a PLEX is not the value you paid for because the item does not have that value. It has the ISK value of what the market is willing to pay for it or whatever service CCP is willing to grant you for a PLEX. For a PLEX to have a value of 15$, it would have to be possible to sell it for 15$. ok, You obviously do not know what the term "REPLACEMENT COST" means. For a dude called Market McSelling Alt, you sure as hell don't understand what the value of an item is. Value of an item and replacement value of an item... Since there is only one place to get plex, replacement value of an item is the amount your credit card is hit on CCP's website. This isn't that hard.
I can get a PLEX without sending any money to CCP and also without doing anything against the game rules.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24878
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Posted - 2015.01.28 18:56:20 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:Value of an item and replacement value of an item... Since there is only one place to get plex That's just it: there is not just one place to get a PLEX, and the replacement cost will vary with the place of acquisition. But more than that, that cost is highly disconnected from how much value you lost when the PLEX was scammed from you.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
45
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Posted - 2015.01.28 19:04:06 -
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Tippia wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:Value of an item and replacement value of an item... Since there is only one place to get plex That's just it: there is not just one place to get a PLEX, and the replacement cost will vary with the place of acquisition. But more than that, that cost is highly disconnected from how much value you lost when the PLEX was scammed from you.
NO MATTER WHERE YOU PERSONALLY GET PLEX IT WAS ONCE BOUGHT THROUGH CCP. PERIOD |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1532
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Posted - 2015.01.28 19:08:38 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:Tippia wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:Value of an item and replacement value of an item... Since there is only one place to get plex That's just it: there is not just one place to get a PLEX, and the replacement cost will vary with the place of acquisition. But more than that, that cost is highly disconnected from how much value you lost when the PLEX was scammed from you. NO MATTER WHERE YOU PERSONALLY GET PLEX IT WAS ONCE BOUGHT THROUGH CCP. PERIOD
And that does not matter for it's VALUE. Only it's cost of "creation". The item's value is based on how people evaluate it's worth, if for you it's 14$, it does not make it true when anyone would tell you it's actualy not worth any amount of money since it's not tradable back for money. It would be closer to be worth 15$ if there was a way to cash in PLEX but since such things does note exist (legally at least) then this cannot be attributed as it's value. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24878
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Posted - 2015.01.28 19:09:43 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:NO MATTER WHERE YOU PERSONALLY GET PLEX IT WAS ONCE BOUGHT THROUGH CCP. PERIOD GǪand the replacement cost will vary between 5 minutes or <800M ISK or $0.15 on Failmazon on a lucky day, all depending on how and where you choose to replace it. And none of that actually changes the value of of the PLEX GÇö it never (legally) valued at $15 once you get your hands on it.
The really funny thing is this: for the only party where that $15 could be considered the one true replacement cost or its value, a PLEX is never lost in way that needs to be replaced.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
45
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Posted - 2015.01.28 19:10:52 -
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Tippia wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:NO MATTER WHERE YOU PERSONALLY GET PLEX IT WAS ONCE BOUGHT THROUGH CCP. PERIOD GǪand the replacement cost will vary between 5 minutes or <800M ISK or $0.15 on Failmazon, all depending on how and where you choose to replace it. And none of that actually changes the value of of the PLEX GÇö it never (legally) valued at $15 once you get your hands on it. The really funny thing is this: for the only party where that $15 could be considered the one true replacement cost or its value, a PLEX is never lost in way that needs to be replaced.
Well that isn't entirely true either because plex can be exchanged back to CCP for a value of about $10 or $15 again. Game time and character enhancements/sevices. |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1532
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Posted - 2015.01.28 19:16:55 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:Tippia wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:NO MATTER WHERE YOU PERSONALLY GET PLEX IT WAS ONCE BOUGHT THROUGH CCP. PERIOD GǪand the replacement cost will vary between 5 minutes or <800M ISK or $0.15 on Failmazon, all depending on how and where you choose to replace it. And none of that actually changes the value of of the PLEX GÇö it never (legally) valued at $15 once you get your hands on it. The really funny thing is this: for the only party where that $15 could be considered the one true replacement cost or its value, a PLEX is never lost in way that needs to be replaced. Well that isn't entirely true either because plex can be exchanged back to CCP for a value of about $10 or $15 again. Game time and character enhancements/sevices.
Except you are not getting money back but game time or another service hence why we say the PLEX is worth game time, account service or whatever the market will pay for it and NOT 15$. |
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Posted - 2015.01.28 19:18:01 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:Well that isn't entirely true either because plex can be exchanged back to CCP for a value of about $10 or $15 again. Game time and character enhancements/sevices. Game time and character enhancements are not $10 or $15. So no, as mentioned, outside of the game, a PLEX is worth those services, nothing else. Well, unless you break the EULA, in which case they'll probably cost you roughly one account.
At no point when you have it in your hands is its value anything that begins with $ (or Gé¼ or -ú).
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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