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TomHorn
Horn and Brothers Ndrangheta.
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Posted - 2015.01.24 14:18:55 -
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VILLORE GÇô Advance voting in the Gallente Presidential election began across all Federation territories at 00.00 EST this morning.
https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/gallente-presidential-election-enters-advance-voting-stage/ |
Gaufres
Just Keep Hanging On
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Posted - 2015.01.24 14:53:20 -
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Where is my ballot? I am a Gallente Citizen. My vote is being supressed. |
TomHorn
Horn and Brothers Ndrangheta.
223
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Posted - 2015.01.24 15:24:50 -
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It is dissapointing that President Jacus Roden standing for a second term, and has not been arrested and convicted, along with Mentas Blaque for crimes against the Caldari people.
There was a call by the Federation liberal capsuleers and liberal capsuleers in general, to all the capsuleers liberal and non liberal to join together and remove Heth from power in the State. We will deal with Heth first and then we will deal with Roden and Blaque was their cry.
Heth was removed from power, and the Federation Liberals have done nothing to go after their own criminals in their goverment. Been no protests, no calls for them to be arrested brought to justice for their crimes against Caldari citizens. like they promised they would do.
The only crimes, that they have deemed to be important are ones they have considered to be done by Caldari's against Federation citizens, and not vice versa.
The only action now the Federation liberal capsuleers will do , when they said they would go after Roden and Blaque after Heth is maybe now vote them out of office, instead of bring them to justice. |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1294
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Posted - 2015.01.24 15:45:24 -
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I ran a publication based on the Scope news announcement here: 'Gallente Presidential elections have begun!'
I attempted to collect additional information about the candidates, but most seem to lack any importance to the capsuleer community & come up blank. From my point of view, there's 2 serious candidates and one important outsider that can contend for presidency in these elections.
Gallente Presidential elections have begun!
Arek'Jaalan needs YOU!
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Zhong Juan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.24 16:41:57 -
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I do not feel represented well enough in this election. The candidates are somewhat disappointing. Of course, knowing our dear Federation, an actress or artist may be voted for no known reason other than popularity.
Then again, those who seem to have clout and perspective seem like a pointless vote. All so concerned with the war.
What about development? I want to see a candidate who stands for the future, and by that I do not mean "this is how we will shoot things next."
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Jukko Riis
Black Rise Colonial Exploration
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Posted - 2015.01.24 17:04:32 -
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TomHorn wrote:It is dissapointing that President Jacus Roden standing for a second term, and has not been arrested and convicted, along with Mentas Blaque for crimes against the Caldari people.
There was a call by the Federation liberal capsuleers and liberal capsuleers in general, to all the capsuleers liberal and non liberal to join together and remove Heth from power in the State. We will deal with Heth first and then we will deal with Roden and Blaque was their cry.
Heth was removed from power, and the Federation Liberals have done nothing to go after their own criminals in their goverment. Been no protests, no calls for them to be arrested brought to justice for their crimes against Caldari citizens. like they promised they would do.
The only crimes, that they have deemed to be important are ones they have considered to be done by Caldari's against Federation citizens, and not vice versa.
The only action now the Federation liberal capsuleers will do , when they said they would go after Roden and Blaque after Heth is maybe now vote them out of office, instead of bring them to justice.
Absolutely none of this comes as a surprise.
Heth got removed because Heth needed to be removed. That's how things are done here. We can't expect the Federation to excise their own inner corruption. The only way Roden will get removed from office is if a more powerful, more corrupt Federation cabal removes him.
I recommend blunt force trauma to the back of the head.
Black Rise Colonial Exploration
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Jukko Riis
Black Rise Colonial Exploration
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Posted - 2015.01.24 17:05:19 -
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Zhong Juan wrote:I do not feel represented well enough in this election. The candidates are somewhat disappointing. Of course, knowing our dear Federation, an actress or artist may be voted for no known reason other than popularity.
Then again, those who seem to have clout and perspective seem like a pointless vote. All so concerned with the war.
What about development? I want to see a candidate who stands for the future, and by that I do not mean "this is how we will shoot things next."
How's that Freedom working out for ya?
Black Rise Colonial Exploration
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Zhong Juan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.24 17:18:35 -
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I use it well enough for my current goals, I had thought about using my freedom to not vote. But as you say, Jacus Roden needs to go. My vote will go against his election, I suppose change must start somewhere. I have contemplated taking my research out of the Federation's hands. The problem is, none of the other so called Empires seem to support my area of expertise with so much zeal.
It is time for Roden's presidential retirement. |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
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Posted - 2015.01.24 17:23:52 -
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Zhong Juan wrote:I do not feel represented well enough in this election. The candidates are somewhat disappointing. Of course, knowing our dear Federation, an actress or artist may be voted for no known reason other than popularity.
Then again, those who seem to have clout and perspective seem like a pointless vote. All so concerned with the war.
What about development? I want to see a candidate who stands for the future, and by that I do not mean "this is how we will shoot things next."
I believe Celes Aguard would be your candidate, she's well known for the infrastructure development of the Essence region. Now keep in mind, as long as the Militia conflict continues, war rhetoric will be part of any presidential campaign, can't escape that.
Gallente Presidential elections have begun!
Arek'Jaalan needs YOU!
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Zhong Juan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.24 17:43:04 -
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I stand corrected, Miss Ymladris. Insufficient research may have pulled me towards an irrational vote, thank you.Though I hope most would agree that when elections are held, we would feel more secure choosing our candidate based on their over all policies than just their next way to push the war. There are already plenty who do this for them.
I'll be keeping a keen eye on which way to vote. |
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Anabella Rella
Gradient
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Posted - 2015.01.24 18:22:16 -
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Jukko Riis wrote: How's that Freedom working out for ya?
Seems to be working quite well, actually. How's that totalitarianism/repression thing working out for you?
See, the thing is that freedom is just that. Freedom. To excel or to fail; to make good choices or poor ones and then live with the consequences of those actions. Being a democracy doesn't mean that we always get things right (I say 'we' as I still hold Federal citizenship) but, it means that we get to make those choices for ourselves. No holder or CEO compels us to act as they wish.
How about you worry about things on your side of the border and clean up your own house before criticizing the Federation about how dirty things are in theirs?
When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
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Norrin Ellis
Venture Racing
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Posted - 2015.01.24 20:35:48 -
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I don't care much for politics, but I do prefer the old one-term limit for the presidency. In that spirit, I say anyone but Roden.
I should note, however, that this is in no way a commentary on Roden's performance.
CEO, Venture Racing
Manager, EVE Online Hold'Em
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Che Biko
Alexylva Paradox
671
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Posted - 2015.01.24 21:56:54 -
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Roden... I don't like him. I mean, first thing he did when he was elected was improving his bottom line by using tax money for contracting his own ships as an additional security force, the Roden Police.
If that does not show someone's colours, I don't know what does. He benefits from the war continuing perpetually, and that is not someone who should be left in charge if we desire peace or victory.
Coordination Channel for Consolidated Space Rescue Cooperation
Open Letter to the Aidonis Foundation Directorate
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Jukko Riis
Black Rise Colonial Exploration
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Posted - 2015.01.24 22:20:29 -
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Anabella Rella wrote: How about you worry about things on your side of the border and clean up your own house before criticizing the Federation about how dirty things are in theirs?
I am.
I'm still cleaning the mess the Federation made the last time they went through here.
Black Rise Colonial Exploration
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1582
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Posted - 2015.01.24 22:29:35 -
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Oh for Maker's sake!
They are bringing in even a known terrorist as "resistance fighter". They all should be detained and executed for crimes against humanity. |
Claudia Osyn
Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies.
1069
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Posted - 2015.01.26 19:49:27 -
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Shame the Caldari ain't part of the federation anymore, they try so hard to involve themselves in our politics, yet carry so little ( see: none ) clout. If you want to change our politics, you can always apply for citizenship...
The lack of money is the root of all evil.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
4450
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:06:53 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Shame the Caldari ain't part of the federation anymore, they try so hard to involve themselves in our politics, yet carry so little ( see: none ) clout. If you want to change our politics, you can always apply for citizenship...
The only part of Gallente politics we've sought to change (since our succession) is the part they try and apply in OUR territory. Every citizen gets a vote on that and I'm proud to be chosen as one of those who enact State Policy, in this regard.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Claudia Osyn
Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies.
1069
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Posted - 2015.01.26 21:21:05 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:Shame the Caldari ain't part of the federation anymore, they try so hard to involve themselves in our politics, yet carry so little ( see: none ) clout. If you want to change our politics, you can always apply for citizenship... The only part of Gallente politics we've sought to change (since our succession) is the part they try and apply in OUR territory. Every citizen gets a vote on that and I'm proud to be chosen as one of those who enact State Policy, in this regard. Pardons, I was unaware of any Federation policys being enacted in any system registered by CONCORD as belonging to the Caldari State. If you are refering to the War Zone, however, those systems don't technicly belong to any one empire, but to CONCORD, any policys enacted there are only valid if/as long as the faction in question has soverginty (see also: never, if one can't maintain a government no policys can be enforced long term)
The lack of money is the root of all evil.
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Kueyen
Mei-Ha's Light
105
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Posted - 2015.01.26 21:32:07 -
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Well, I know whom I'm voting for... Shaileen Ramnev.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/status-of-caldari-prime-in-election-spotlight-as-shaileen-ramnev-speaks/ |
Eran Mintor
Furtherance.
773
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Posted - 2015.01.27 01:56:24 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:Shame the Caldari ain't part of the federation anymore, they try so hard to involve themselves in our politics, yet carry so little ( see: none ) clout. If you want to change our politics, you can always apply for citizenship... The only part of Gallente politics we've sought to change (since our succession) is the part they try and apply in OUR territory. Every citizen gets a vote on that and I'm proud to be chosen as one of those who enact State Policy, in this regard. Pardons, I was unaware of any Federation policys being enacted in any system registered by CONCORD as belonging to the Caldari State. If you are refering to the War Zone, however, those systems don't technicly belong to any one empire, but to CONCORD, any policys enacted there are only valid if/as long as the faction in question has soverginty (see also: never, if one can't maintain a government, no policys can be enforced long term)
Interesting. I was pretty sure the systems retain their original sovereignty regardless of "occupancy" and are not owned by CONCORD ever, but what do I know.
-Eran |
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
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Posted - 2015.01.27 07:21:03 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:Shame the Caldari ain't part of the federation anymore, they try so hard to involve themselves in our politics, yet carry so little ( see: none ) clout. If you want to change our politics, you can always apply for citizenship... The only part of Gallente politics we've sought to change (since our succession) is the part they try and apply in OUR territory. Every citizen gets a vote on that and I'm proud to be chosen as one of those who enact State Policy, in this regard. Pardons, I was unaware of any Federation policys being enacted in any system registered by CONCORD as belonging to the Caldari State. If you are refering to the War Zone, however, those systems don't technicly belong to any one empire, but to CONCORD, any policys enacted there are only valid if/as long as the faction in question has soverginty (see also: never, if one can't maintain a government, no policys can be enforced long term)
And so I find myself abroad.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Aelisha
Achura-Waschi Exchange Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
453
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Posted - 2015.01.27 13:36:55 -
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I'll second that. The spirit of cooperation embodied by this individual is laudable, and worthy of Federal office at the highest level. I and my corporation wish Shaileen Ramnev the best in her campaign and urge right-thinking citizens to vote for her. Reconciliation, rebuilding and outreach should be our focus in the coming Presidential terms, and she has the hard won experience to lay the foundations.
Combat Pilot for the Pyre Falcon Defense Combine
Intaki Reborn
Independent Capsuleer
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KaRa DaVuT
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
60
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Posted - 2015.01.27 15:06:21 -
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Well I too wish that Shaileen Ramnev will win the eleciton. We need some level of virtue.. A kingdom of conscience..
Look at Amarr and what they have done in the name of " Religion" and "sake of higher good.. Then you can understand clearly the importance of virtue in a leader...
I put no stock in religion, or nationalism. By the word "religion" or "patriotism" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of Highness or for the glory of their "race"...
Holiness is in right action and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. What God desires is in your heart and on your mind... And what you decide to do every day, makes you - not your race - a good man - or not.
Holiness is in right action and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. What God desires is in your heart and on your mind... And what you decide to do every day, makes you - not your race - a good man - or not.
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Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
474
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Posted - 2015.01.27 15:14:12 -
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Caldari Prime may be a very important planet, but it is still only a single one out of many hundreds of populated worlds in the Federation. Regardless of the nobility of miss Ramnev's policies regarding it, I should think it might be a bit of an unwiseidea to elect someone based on a single subset of policies concerning only one matter. |
Aelisha
Achura-Waschi Exchange Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
453
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Posted - 2015.01.27 15:41:27 -
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Gwen Ikiryo wrote:Caldari Prime may be a very important planet, but it is still only a single one out of many hundreds of populated worlds in the Federation. Regardless of the nobility of miss Ramnev's policies regarding it, I should think it might be a bit of an unwise idea to elect someone based solely on a single subset of policies concerning only one matter.
True as this may be, I do not expect the POTF to shoulder all burdens, but instead provide an abstract level of values and approaches to the wider Senate. Her experience with multiculturalism, armed but benevolent resistance and maintaining a personal philosophy based on actions instead of race provide those high level values.
Yes she is limited, even we capsuleers are quick to run into our boundaries as individuals, but her singular defining experience is applicable across the wider Federation. The Federation is a nation struggling under the weight of modernity, multiculturalism, integration and the maintenance of freedom and liberty in a predominantly autocratic or corporate cluster. Taking her experiences in a microcosm of oppression with a few guttering lights of liberty in some of Caldari Prime's darkest days and applying it to the neglected border worlds of the Federation, especially those with dissaffected indigenous populations, could be invaluable.
This next term will be about rebuilding, setting up a firebreak against future incursion and scrutinizing the cultural values of a nation that aspires to freedom but is oh so close to throwing it away out of fear and prejudice. I believe that Candidate Ramnev is the woman for the job.
Combat Pilot for the Pyre Falcon Defense Combine
Intaki Reborn
Independent Capsuleer
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Kueyen
Mei-Ha's Light
106
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Posted - 2015.01.27 19:19:22 -
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Looks like the other candidates are finally entering the limelight:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/kelen-ontbad-holds-election-holorally-at-algintal-complex/
While I'm not unsympathetic to the plights of our Minmatar brethren, Ontbad's platform is simply less appealing to me than Ramnev's. My personal preference at this time:
Ramnev -+ Aguard -+-+ Roden = Ontbad (Idama? Nova?)
Until all are free...
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Kueyen
Mei-Ha's Light
106
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Posted - 2015.01.27 20:14:01 -
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And the man himselfs takes to the stage:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/roden-speaks-at-arcurio-election-address/
Might as well have been Mentas Blaque himself speaking, though...
Ramnev -+ Aguard -+-+ Ontbad -+-+ Roden (Idama? Nova?)
Until all are free...
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Eojek
Starlight Moly
56
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Posted - 2015.01.27 23:31:43 -
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I have always wondered.... Roden for president? Rodent for President? President Rat? Hm... That's like asking a man named Madoff if you can invest in his company. |
James Syagrius
Reclamation Technologies
942
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Posted - 2015.01.28 02:40:10 -
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I commend President RodenGÇÖs decision to seek a second term.
He exemplifies the Hero Kings of our not so remote past, who selflessly dedicated themselves to the enlightened progress of our shared Gallentean civilization.
Our Federal Union can ill afford, at this time of perpetual peril, leaders of week will or questionable loyalties.
No effort will be spared to promote his vision of our collective future.
GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
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Zhong Juan
Syn-Tek
3
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Posted - 2015.01.28 09:06:22 -
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A President should be someone more concerned with the running of the Federation, someone who could lead beyond the fog of war. Someone who would still care when there is a need for clarity and not a combat strategy.
I admit, we require a leader who knows how to lead us through conflict, but we do not need a Hero or a General to lead us, let alone a criminal. We need someone who knows who to put behind a gun, not just where to fire it.
Celes Aguard - For a clearer, greater Federation. |
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