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Eriond Aldur
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.25 20:08:58 -
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Greetings, capsuleers!
My name is Eriond Aldur, and I am a new capsuleer in the EVE universe. (I am not "new" by any means, just have done a full reroll upon my return from a year-plus hiatus!)
I was never too much of a pilot in my previous excursions, but one thing that they all had in common was that I had a multi-pilot personal team at my disposal. I paid for the multiple accounts and tried to cover bases to be wholly self-sufficient.
Fast forward to now. I am now a happily married man in real life, with a gaming-supportive wife. I am on physical disability, so I have more time, but not more income, than a lot of pilots out there. My income and my wife dictate that I cannot pay for more than one account monthly.
Being an absolutely new reroll, my question regarding input is this:
"If you were FORCED to use ONE pilot until you had progressed enough to PLEX additional accounts, what would be your choice as far as an income making profession?"
I would prefer to stay away from combat/piracy as a main goal. On my previous experience, I joined a corporation with some friends and allowed the corporation to dicate my skillset as to what the corporation needed, rather than what I truly wanted to play. I am definitely most interested in the business aspect of the game. I have no qualms with mining and will definitely prepare myself to at least be able to do it on a small scale -- but I am just curious what others think would be the best choices to make as far as a "profession" while limited to only one paid account.
I thank you very much for your input in advance!
Best Regards,
Eriond Aldur
TL;DR: Poster wishes for input on the best income-making option while only being able to afford to keep one paid membership. Thank you. |
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
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Posted - 2015.01.25 20:38:45 -
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Exploration. |
Narcotic Gryffin
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2015.01.25 21:05:13 -
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As someone who only runs 1 account i can recommend a number of things from my experience but first off.
What is it you like and you want to do? and we can go from there
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Sir Livingston
Club Deadspace
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Posted - 2015.01.25 21:06:11 -
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Godfrey Silvarna wrote:Exploration. I agree.
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Eriond Aldur
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.25 21:15:06 -
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Narcotic Gryffin wrote:As someone who only runs 1 account i can recommend a number of things from my experience but first off.
What is it you like and you want to do? and we can go from there
I am most interested in business and trade aspects. I did Planetary Interaction as my one "sideline" from my corporation-demanded skillset on my "main" last time around, and I also thoroughly enjoyed that.
I just don't really want to go out looking for combat in this experience. It wasn't my intent last time, either -- but I wanted to play with the friends that I joined the game with. Not that the combat isn't enjoyable, but what interests me most is all aspects of business in the game.
I just know I used to work with an extra hauler alt at very least, and I did up to 3 accounts before I left eventually because of frustration with how my pilot just wasn't what I wanted at all and that I'd allowed myself to become a corporate *****. :)
I did partake in a bit of station trading as well, but even with a 640M boost from buddy program, I doubt I have the capital to look at station trading as a beginning solution. I could be wrong, I have been off the grid for I would say at least a year and a half.
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Eriond Aldur
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.25 21:20:32 -
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Godfrey Silvarna wrote:Exploration.
For what it's worth (I literally just re-installed last night at 6:00PM) -- I've heard that exploration was the one area they had tweaked greatly. While I was at least competent in the old exploration with the scanners, I have never really pursued it.
Wouldn't it be a fairly significant skill investment to see any sort of income from it, though? Forgive my ignorance on the new workings of the mechanic as I have just returned and haven't had the chance to absorb everything quite yet.
I thank you all for your input thus far, it is greatly appreciated. :) I am just waiting for my manufacturing in the tutorials to finish, so this is time very well-spent. :) I've already downloaded EVEMon, but I really want to be sure of what I want to do from the start to have the best efficiency possible.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.25 21:39:12 -
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Ask yourself, what do you want to do with the ISK you make in game?
I'm raising this point, because I recommend to link your ISK making activity as much as possible to what you enjoy doing in the game.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Eriond Aldur
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.25 21:47:16 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:Ask yourself, what do you want to do with the ISK you make in game?
I'm raising this point, because I recommend to link your ISK making activity as much as possible to what you enjoy doing in the game.
I mean, just off the top of my head, I'm thinking specialization along the way of either major manufacturing or invention or one of those. My ideal endgame has me spearheading a profitable corporation, this is me throwing ideas off a wall to see what the best path to starting it as ONE individual is. The friends I have played with in the past have moved on, I am truly alone in this universe, an orphan with no connection to anyone or anything.
I haven't looked at the skill trees in detail quite yet just because I knew I was taking at least SOME mining in order to have some sort of income coming in plus what I received from buddy program to plot out the best course.
Having not played in a while, something I might be considering might be inconceivable without paying for a "hauler alt" for example.
EDIT: I am currently in EVEMon to give a better answer as to what I would possibly consider as of right now as "ideal" for me. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.25 21:50:13 -
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Godfrey Silvarna wrote:Exploration. Exploitation
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Eriond Aldur
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.25 21:58:27 -
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OK, I pulled up EVEMon because I wanted to be able to respond to all with the respect deserved.
As I said above, I did Planetary Interaction in the past and enjoyed it. I do not remember if this would be viable right from the start...
I have nothing against mining, I'm training a bit now so I have income for sure. I don't think I would want to pursue it to where my only job would be as a resource gatherer, however. I can definitely see where getting the best ores would be interesting and of course where it can be profitable.
So I would say JUST off looking at the start of a plan in EVEMon that Production, Trade, Science, and Planet Management are my main interests.
IF I never fired a shot in anger, and only in defense, throughout my entire career, that would be fine with me. I just enjoy business a great deal and there has never been a better player economy than EVE Online. |
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Eriond Aldur
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.25 22:10:14 -
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The most important thing to me out of the ISK itself is to be able to afford another pilot out of ISK and sustain it. That's my goal. I'm not picky HOW I make my money, just that I can actually start towards making ISK and keep doing it long-term on one account until I can legit afford the second one through the game.
If that never happens, that's cool, too. I'm an older guy and there isn't anything I wouldn't enjoy. Even as a miner, I can sit and watch TV and still have great conversations with my wife, so its literally all gravy. |
J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5707
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Posted - 2015.01.25 22:40:57 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Godfrey Silvarna wrote:Exploration. Exploitation Explosions
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Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
884
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Posted - 2015.01.25 23:12:10 -
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Station trading for sure. I recently rolled a new alt to trade and went from 4 million to 2 billion ISK in the first two months. And it's one of the few activities where you can really invest your money while still being more accessible than production with low skills. Mining and ratting are nice and all, but they have capped incomes. That's not how you get rich.
Besides, those activities are for the peons, and you sound like upper-middle management material!
If you can avoid PLEXing for a few months I would try and build up some buffer capital. Especially if your main source of income is production and trade, since the more money you have the more you can bring in. After a few months, buying a PLEX will be painful but no longer crippling to your future profits.
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Eriond Aldur
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.25 23:15:00 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:Station trading for sure. I recently rolled a new alt to trade and went from 4 million to 2 billion ISK in the first two months. And it's one of the few activities where you can really invest your money while still being more accessible than production with low skills. Mining and ratting are nice and all, but they have capped incomes. That's not how you get rich. Besides, those activities are for the peons, and you sound like upper-middle management material! If you can avoid PLEXing for a few months I would try and build up some buffer capital. Especially if your main source of income is production and trade, since the more money you have the more you can bring in. After a few months, buying a PLEX will be painful but no longer crippling to your future profits.
This account will be paid for to eternity if I wish it so, so I have no worries about that for this account. :)
I am going to join your public channel, ma'am -- I greatly appreciate your post. :) I actually got a fair deal of capital from my buddy program, I just didn't feel it would be enough. But if you've gone from 4M to billions, I would say its fair to say I have the capital. Definitely joining your group, on my way as I speak!
Thank you again, and thanks to all who have responded, it is greatly appreciated!
Best Regards,
Eriond Aldur
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Phig Neutron
Rubicon Cubism
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Posted - 2015.01.26 03:28:33 -
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Find POS in highsec owned by 1-3 man corporation with expensive laboratories or other furniture and no guns. Declare war on said corporation. Destroy POS, steal laboratories etc and sell them in Jita. No need to fight... you just run away if anyone actually shows up while you're attacking. Repeat.
This fits with what you want to do in the game, because you'll acquire a number of starbase modules that you yourself can one day use for invention and the like. It is also semi-AFK because while your battleship is chewing on the POS, you can be keeping track of the markets or what have you. Also you may attract employees who would enjoy bashing POS for you so you eventually don't even need to be there. Win win for everybody. (Except the POS owner, but beating the competition is part of business right?)
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Eriond Aldur
Krystal Intergalactic Holdings
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Posted - 2015.01.26 03:31:46 -
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Phig Neutron wrote:Find POS in highsec owned by 1-3 man corporation with expensive laboratories or other furniture and no guns. Declare war on said corporation. Destroy POS, steal laboratories etc and sell them in Jita. No need to fight... you just run away if anyone actually shows up while you're attacking. Repeat.
This fits with what you want to do in the game, because you'll acquire a number of starbase modules that you yourself can one day use for invention and the like. It is also semi-AFK because while your battleship is chewing on the POS, you can be keeping track of the markets or what have you. Also you may attract employees who would enjoy bashing POS for you so you eventually don't even need to be there. Win win for everybody. (Except the POS owner, but beating the competition is part of business right?)
With rerolling yesterday, I'm going to go ahead and say this isn't feasible right now. |
Phig Neutron
Rubicon Cubism
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Posted - 2015.01.26 03:35:40 -
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Eriond Aldur wrote:Phig Neutron wrote:Find POS in highsec owned by 1-3 man corporation with expensive laboratories or other furniture and no guns. Declare war on said corporation. Destroy POS, steal laboratories etc and sell them in Jita. No need to fight... you just run away if anyone actually shows up while you're attacking. Repeat.
This fits with what you want to do in the game, because you'll acquire a number of starbase modules that you yourself can one day use for invention and the like. It is also semi-AFK because while your battleship is chewing on the POS, you can be keeping track of the markets or what have you. Also you may attract employees who would enjoy bashing POS for you so you eventually don't even need to be there. Win win for everybody. (Except the POS owner, but beating the competition is part of business right?)
With rerolling yesterday, I'm going to go ahead and say this isn't feasible right now.
You can do it within a month. All you really need is a T1 battleship that you can set up to fire its weapons continuously. Amarr BS are the best because they don't require ammunition. Just put capacitor rechargers in all the slots and then you can target POS, shoot POS, check back in two hours. (Buy insurance!)
Until then maybe just ninja salvage. |
WT Lapre
Wolfen AG
0
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Posted - 2015.01.26 08:48:25 -
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If you want to try exploration, I would give this guide a read.
As a person who recently returned after years of not playing, I found this guide to be useful and informative.
http://www.toptiertactics.com/21341/eve-online-exploration-guide-billions-and-billions-of-isk/#axzz3PPmhzLKH |
Eriond Aldur
Krystal Intergalactic Holdings
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Posted - 2015.01.26 16:18:55 -
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Thank you very much, indeed. I will definitely be looking into exploration with all the great things I'm hearing about the new mechanics of it.
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Roel Yento
Death Row inc
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Posted - 2015.01.26 17:38:03 -
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Exploration in null/low/wormholes is good and easy for new characters. Why did you reroll a charcter though? |
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Timo Rotsuda
Bonewerkz
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:16:56 -
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If you want some way to earn while you are exploring, get started with PI. This will take almost none of your time and while you won't get rich in Hi-sec it is a nice base passive income. Then at the same time look into manufacturing. The income can be good but expect to spend along time to build a collection of profitable bpo's. You'll probably need to be doing reasearch on them first which takes quite alot of skills. This will also take a decent investment of isk to get yourself set up. Doing this well will take more of your time but still leave plenty for exploring or missioning. |
Yehala
FISHERS INC
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Posted - 2015.01.26 22:50:12 -
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Hi there, and welcome back :)
In my opinion, if you are ok with PVE and like to have a casual chatting with a nice community, go for Incursions. It's quite easy to jump into a ship and plex your account. You can make between 100 to 300M/ Hour depending on the Community and the odds of good spawns (tcrc gogogo). This is a very efficient way to plex your account quickly.
I also recommend Trading. This is a good way to make some passive income. It's fun (not the 0.01 game) and can be very profitable in no time. But don't fall in the Jita buy/sell pit for starting. Go for inter regional trading, hubs, high margins and such :)
Starting a small manufacturing enterprise can be also profitable. Making it big will make you rich
I personally don't recommend Exploration if your main objective for the moment is to plex your account. Even if exploration can be a very nice way to make a lot of money, it can also be 50/50 and very frustrating. In my opinion this is an awesome experience but not so reliable.
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