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Morium Blue
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Posted - 2006.11.26 02:52:00 -
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But you were going down anyway Damige and you know it I don't doubt you had some technical issues - many of us did - but your fighters were switching targets and your modules were going. Still, full respect to you for bringing your carrier to the gate in the first place. (We were expecting you to bring a new one to today's E02 fight, so I'm sure it won't be long).
As to the engagement where you lost it, kill mails show you had two carriers in action (you and Etragin) with Etragin deploying fighters from the POS. You could have gone to the POS with him when we entered system and just assigned fighters to your fleet, but you stayed up close and personal. I respect that.
And, by the same token, I think we did rather well to jump Alazais' Thanatos in at the gate against 2 carriers (fighting it for 25 minutes with jump-in cap) and we took out your fleet & carrier with (slightly) less numbers. I'm sure you'll give us credit for that one and INFOD aren't short of some good wins either.
All swings and roundabouts
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Rastilin
Gallente Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.11.26 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Grant Smith It's a good question. INFOD and ALTZ did have a very good history with each other. why don't you guys leave TNT and help us with our quest! GL anyway guys. May the better team take all.
FYI TNT was formed and founded by ALTZ
Side note: Why do i always get called primary
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DaMiGe
Amarr Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.11.26 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Morium Blue But you were going down anyway Damige and you know it I don't doubt you had some technical issues - many of us did - but your fighters were switching targets and your modules were going. Still, full respect to you for bringing your carrier to the gate in the first place. (We were expecting you to bring a new one to today's E02 fight, so I'm sure it won't be long).
As to the engagement where you lost it, kill mails show you had two carriers in action (you and Etragin) with Etragin deploying fighters from the POS. You could have gone to the POS with him when we entered system and just assigned fighters to your fleet, but you stayed up close and personal. I respect that.
And, by the same token, I think we did rather well to jump Alazais' Thanatos in at the gate against 2 carriers (fighting it for 25 minutes with jump-in cap) and we took out your fleet & carrier with (slightly) less numbers. I'm sure you'll give us credit for that one and INFOD aren't short of some good wins either.
All swings and roundabouts
Appriciate the comments, but i was not even close to losing the carrier, i do have some of the fraps of that fight, on wich you can clearly see that the dps i was getting threwout the whole fight was easy tanking.
When i have my new carrier i will be doing the same thing again, becouse its very much tankable. I'll put in in LNL6 and i'll leave the community to judge if i could have tanked that or not.
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Morium Blue
Order of the Lost Souls
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Posted - 2006.11.26 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: DaMiGe When i have my new carrier i will be doing the same thing again, becouse its very much tankable. I'll put in in LNL6 and i'll leave the community to judge if i could have tanked that or not.
But then our full dps was never on you until the time you went down, so we'll never know, since you wouldn't have the relevant footage. We were taking out the supporting BS, as you were, with only a few bouts of attacking you when primaries were unclear.
It wouldn't be a question of running out of cap since we know your setup that day (2 capital reppers, 3 hardeners, on the 5 low slots). With capital repper lvl 5, 9600hp/22.5secs = 426.6hp/s.
With T2 hardeners (Exp, Kin, Therm), your resists are 70% EM, 59.5% EXP, 66.25% KIN, 70.75% THERM
So at best you tank 426.6/0.2925 = 1458.46dps And worst resist you tank = 426.6/0.405 = 1053.33dps
Both figures are less than the dps of a Thanatos with fighters lvl 5 (Alazais).
With Centus-X hardeners, those numbers go up to tanking 1823dps (best) & 1422dps (worst). Better, but still not enough to sit and tank there forever, especially when we add in that your support is dead and other ships are now firing on you as well.
Of course that doesn't mean you'd have gone down quickly if you didn't have problems, so did technical problems speed up your demise? I bet, but then just as we had pilots who crashed or lagged, which slowed our efforts to bring about said demise.
Anyway, it was another good fight, I may be biased on this one but it always is gf with INFOD, whichever way it goes. I always know a good fight is coming when you unlock Don from his cage in the vaults of your church and he shows in B-VIP
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Morium Blue
Order of the Lost Souls
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Posted - 2006.11.27 18:41:00 -
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On a different note, it's going to be interesting to see whether the new regions in Revelations affect life in the Wildlands. After all, we'll be fairly close to the new areas and the proverbial knife fight in the GW phone box may seem less appetising with a half dozen unclaimed regions nearby (and the sovereignty promise).
With a lot of new corps fighting in GW lately, it'll be interesting to see whose plans revolve around it and who makes the charge for the new pastures.
(And, of course, who it brings to our doorstep).
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Mok'Tel
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.30 20:26:00 -
[186]
just checking something, don't mind me
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Hudsonn
Minmatar FireTech Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.01 00:08:00 -
[187]
WTB INFOD fleet to fight.
Where the hell are you guys? come play. -------------
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Cupdeez
Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.01 18:17:00 -
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Maybe next fight i'll bring my carrier into the fight not many people in the game can match my skillz in the Thantos... "Been out of the game for 1 month"
When it comes to tank i have all armor compenstation at lvl 5 along with all engineering skillz at lvl 5. To top that off I can launch 14 fighter drones and to let you ponder the skills I'll tell you this i have about 6 mil skill points in drones.
Now to ***** my tank it takes 8 battleships fitted for all damage and about 30 mins to take me down... This is with me not fighting back..
On a side note my 14 fighter drones can drop a fully tanked BS very very fast.
You had balls to take your carrier to a gate but not the best move since carriers are more support and go down a little slower then a uber tanked BS.
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Svetlanna
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.01 18:56:00 -
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WTB Cupdeez and all his twin brothers and sisters... Also, I expect Xirtam to be my gift with purchase...
GO Imperium GO!
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Hudsonn
Minmatar FireTech Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.01 21:32:00 -
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Comments of support? I know it's friday and all, and everyone is extra happy it's the weekend. Apparently, we're the bad guys! -------------
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Assur
Minmatar Stronghold corp Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.02 07:05:00 -
[191]
Well it is a battle between good and evil.. lmao.
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Engad Tanon
Enterprise Estonia Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.12.02 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Cupdeez Maybe next fight i'll bring my carrier into the fight not many people in the game can match my skillz in the Thantos... "Been out of the game for 1 month"
When it comes to tank i have all armor compenstation at lvl 5 along with all engineering skillz at lvl 5. To top that off I can launch 14 fighter drones and to let you ponder the skills I'll tell you this i have about 6 mil skill points in drones.
Now to ***** my tank it takes 8 battleships fitted for all damage and about 30 mins to take me down... This is with me not fighting back..
On a side note my 14 fighter drones can drop a fully tanked BS very very fast.
You had balls to take your carrier to a gate but not the best move since carriers are more support and go down a little slower then a uber tanked BS.
bring it out, i am waiting
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Hudsonn
Minmatar FireTech Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.03 12:47:00 -
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Waiting? i think you mean "hiding", which is what you guys do everytime we bring it. Like last night, even numbers, 20 vs 20, and V didn't want any part of it. -------------
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Zell
Caldari The Black Raptors
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Posted - 2006.12.03 16:34:00 -
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Edited by: Zell on 03/12/2006 16:34:30
Originally by: Hudsonn Waiting? i think you mean "hiding", which is what you guys do everytime we bring it. Like last night, even numbers, 20 vs 20, and V didn't want any part of it.
Maybe the time wasted to fly there to 20 ctrl - Q's wasn't really worth it...
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Aleksandr Cirtus
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Posted - 2006.12.04 08:38:00 -
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Now I know why I don't like reading forum threads, especially on EVE. I am largely surprised by the general audience that plays EVE. They should show a relative intelligence, but do not.
Just stuck in a world, looking for other intelligent people with whom I can discuss virtual politics/psych. A quite interesting topic of conversation, it is. How EVE represents such an accurate microcosm of the real world. For example, how exact the ratio of intelligible to untelligible people is in both EVE and the real world.
I have never in all my time playing games (all games, not just computer games, I include everything that has ever constituted a game), seen such a degenerate communication of grandiose porportion, from all sides, groups, and aspects.
As far as this post's relation to the events that have unfolded in the South East, there is none. This post's relation is to the thread in which it resides.
Heheheh.... Had you all going there hook line and sinker, didn't I. :P
See ya on the battlefield, and I won't be thinking about grammar. Go IMP.
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Engad Tanon
Enterprise Estonia Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.12.04 09:15:00 -
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Edited by: Engad Tanon on 04/12/2006 09:16:04
Originally by: Hudsonn Waiting? i think you mean "hiding", which is what you guys do everytime we bring it. Like last night, even numbers, 20 vs 20, and V didn't want any part of it.
hudsonn u looks stupid. Like u know .EE will fight u always and outnumberd, isnt it?
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c0rn1
Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.12.04 17:06:00 -
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Edited by: c0rn1 on 04/12/2006 17:11:32 Edited by: c0rn1 on 04/12/2006 17:06:23
Originally by: Hudsonn Waiting? i think you mean "hiding", which is what you guys do everytime we bring it. Like last night, even numbers, 20 vs 20, and V didn't want any part of it.
Hey, sweetheart, we engaged you yesterday 15vs25 and after we killed 2 of your BS, your sleipnir and something else, you warped off @ E02 gate in M-M and hid in a safespot. We got it frapsed, so please, spare us future comments like this of yours.
EDIT: we lost nothing. EDIT2: you jumped on us, not vice versa. just to make that clear. x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
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Littleluk
The Ancient Order Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.04 17:39:00 -
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Hey, sweetheart, we engaged you yesterday 15vs25 and after we killed 2 of your BS, your sleipnir and something else, you warped off @ E02 gate in M-M and hid in a safespot. We got it frapsed, so please, spare us future comments like this of yours.
EDIT: we lost nothing. EDIT2: you jumped on us, not vice versa. just to make that clear.
Absolutley true Corn1. Props on your phoons tank. Imp got caught bringing knives to a gun fight. In any given situation there are winners and loser. To be honest, IMP prefers not to engage when the outcome is leaning towards being the big loser. Both sides have times when they are the dominant force in the area. I believe this is what makes it a conflict. On a day to day basis IMP resides in GW and engages targets when we believe we have a shot at winning. Stick around a bit longer next time and maybe we can get a second round together. The one thing I know for certain, is that there are enough skilled fighters on both sides, to spill blood in a hurry. Decisions of when and where to engage are made carefully by both sides. A mistake in GW can cost you a fleet in a heartbeat. The other certainity is that there will be chest beating where men and women gather to speak of their conquests and battles. It would appear that both sides do it here and in space. Such is the way of life.
I can certainly understand LV and V being angry. They are fighting for their homes. In a year they have gone from being the Coalition going after Red to being pressured in their home systems by a Coalition of forces. They have many fronts and many enemies atm. That is a shoe that only RA has been able to wear for a long period of time. They have my total respect for continueing to fight in battle ready ships and for bringing it when they do. Our world is an unforgiving place where you get to "keep what you kill". I have no doubts that the last and best chapters of this battle are yet to be written by our blood. IMP will be there. LV, V, Infod, TNT, Foundation, TCF, Goons, RA and a host of other will be present as well. Looking forward to the next battle.
Littleluk Imperium Diplomat
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Hudsonn
Minmatar FireTech Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.04 17:47:00 -
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Edited by: Hudsonn on 04/12/2006 17:50:51 Edited by: Hudsonn on 04/12/2006 17:49:11 Ooo well done, if you look, i posted that before that happened. So no, it doesn't make me look stupid.
Just wait. -------------
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Svetlanna
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.04 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Hudsonn Comments of support? I know it's friday and all, and everyone is extra happy it's the weekend. Apparently, we're the bad guys!
Yes indeed, it is a support comment. It was so much fun fighting FIX and flying with Imperium guys in 9CG few months ago.
May be we can take care of BOB's arrogance together once we are done with ASN / AXE and you guys have eaten alive LV.
I take this opportunity to salute the VOTF fighters.
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LTD THOR
Sensus Numinis Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2006.12.05 06:33:00 -
[201]
@littleluk, well written and fair words (would be nice if the imp-eve.com-jabber-0-dominating-despite massive advantages of the situation-assamble would have the same respect for -V- (and friends) like you)! but sometimes you need to engage someone outnumbered to get/hold something. without that behaviour IMP will never rock anything..
*wrote as a ex -V- and now official -V- fanboi!
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Redbad
Minmatar Gingerbread Reapers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.05 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: LTD THOR @littleluk, well written and fair words (would be nice if the imp-eve.com-jabber-0-dominating-despite massive advantages of the situation-assamble would have the same respect for -V- (and friends) like you)! but sometimes you need to engage someone outnumbered to get/hold something. without that behaviour IMP will never rock anything..
*wrote as a ex -V- and now official -V- fanboi!
I flew with Imperium for a while and I can assure you that I felt a great deal of respect from those chaps to all players and alliances. Being a bit boisterous doesn't mean necessarily disrespectful. Imperium has an unique style and approach that made them a force to be reckoned with in the Great Wildlands in a very short time and they have some very capable fleetcommanders that know how and more importantly when to fight.
I'll die in one of their fleets anytime if being called up on, especially defending or fighting against -V-, because they make up for nice fights and thrilling one on one encounters on their home turf and most of them are courteous afterwards.
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.05 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Svetlanna
Originally by: Hudsonn Comments of support? I know it's friday and all, and everyone is extra happy it's the weekend. Apparently, we're the bad guys!
Yes indeed, it is a support comment. It was so much fun fighting FIX and flying with Imperium guys in 9CG few months ago.
May be we can take care of BOB's arrogance together once we are done with ASN / AXE and you guys have eaten alive LV.
I take this opportunity to salute the VOTF fighters.
svet!
sveeeet!
MY PLANS!!!
MY F**KING PLANS!!!
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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c0rn1
Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.12.05 15:19:00 -
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Edited by: c0rn1 on 05/12/2006 15:19:01 Oh, and while I was checking your kb, IMP, could you please check the kill of Enosh Kerrim in his megathron @ 2.12.2006, because he lost just one mega in this certain minute :) Guess it's just a wicked parsing error, but it keeps us below 90% efficiency towards you :(
regards
c0rn1 :) x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
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Assur
Minmatar Stronghold corp Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 21:22:00 -
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Are you trying to say that the 4 people from your alliance that fly with lv and infod keep track of efficieny?
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BustyBounty
Caldari Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 22:00:00 -
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if your taking your losses from our killboard they shouldnt be accurate, when we switched killboards due to the original host joining lv for a short period of time we lost alot of killmails and we never got the DB back when the guy rejoined us afaik ------------------------------------------ My opinions are my own and not that of the alliance I belong to. |
Littleluk
The Ancient Order Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.06 00:20:00 -
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Our data computers are currently experiencing a glitch with data input if one of the new ships is involved Corn1. I am hopeful that the anomolies will be corrected soon. I have 4 loss mails to post.... nothing like trying to figure out the exact optimal setup and limit of a new ship when your pod loses control and communications with said ship every 3rd jump. A dark pod is a scary place.
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c0rn1
Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.12.06 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Littleluk Our data computers are currently experiencing a glitch with data input if one of the new ships is involved Corn1. I am hopeful that the anomolies will be corrected soon. I have 4 loss mails to post.... nothing like trying to figure out the exact optimal setup and limit of a new ship when your pod loses control and communications with said ship every 3rd jump. A dark pod is a scary place.
yeah, same with our killboard. We have to transfer the new ships to the existing ships in the DB until the new database of CCP is out :( that's why hyperions are listed as megathrons...
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Trancestor
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.12.07 00:53:00 -
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Edited by: Trancestor on 07/12/2006 00:54:21 result of my fights in the last 1 week.
i killed 35ships from imperium dont include any pods shuttels and rookie ships. lose 2 ships. u can finde them on our board.
I saw 10 of 35 loses on the IMP KB.
i may have to post the rest on it.
better is u guys del your KB cause its worthless to get any ifno if u just post 30% of the results.
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Cupdeez
Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.07 17:22:00 -
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Edited by: Cupdeez on 07/12/2006 17:23:25 Both killboards are not accurate.. I have 30 + kill mails of VI and most are not posted. Most killboards are not accurate and never will be for the following reasons.
1. Some people don't even know the address of the killboards 2. Some people only post kills 3. If it was a bug and they got the ship back they don't post the kill 4. Some people don't care 5. Some people forget to post them 6. Why post a friate kill
You have 20 frigate kills and a few cruiser/BC kills not posted on our killboards Super!! Who cares about who has more kills... Why not look at it like this, who controls the space -v- or IMP? That is the only thing that matters.
Only way any killboard will be accurate is when eve makes an automated killboard for the whole eve community.
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