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Rayka Vokan
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.26 10:41:36 -
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I just returned to eve after cancelling my sub back in 2012. Gotta say that I am mighty impressed with how it's developed since then.
I logged back in and I found myself in a true creations station in the furthest extremities of null sec. I suddenly remembered I had made a big effort to bring quite a lot of assets to this area as at the time it was my corps stomping ground. I immediately liquidised these assets I wanted to get back to empire and start a new.
I found however that the journey is highly unlikely to be successful, in fact I feel completely stuck out there. I have a shuttle and I keep running into gates that have exceedingly large bubbles. I know I will get so far and then get popped.
Am I up the creek without a paddle?
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Cherri Minoa
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch. Sev3rance
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Posted - 2015.01.26 10:51:12 -
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Option 1 of course is the pod express if your clone is in hi-sec and you don't have a head full of bling.
Option 2 depends on what you've got or can buy where you are in null. An interceptor with warp core stabilisers and / or nanofiber internals in the lows will give you the best chance of a clean getaway. The Ares has 4 low slots which makes it the slippery - of - choice.
"If I had been censured every time I have run my ship, or fleets under my command, into great danger, I should have long ago been out of the Service" - Horatio Nelson
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Oraac Ensor
602
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Posted - 2015.01.26 10:53:21 -
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As you've been out of the game since 2012 I guess you may not know that Interceptors are now immune to bubbles? |
Rayka Vokan
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.26 10:55:20 -
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Intriguing, I will try and acquire an interceptor. I tried to pod myself but I ended up back where I started. Whoops!
Thank you for quick the responses. |
Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
672
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Posted - 2015.01.26 11:20:17 -
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Also, you can set your clone home station to your original school station - I believe its limited to once a year, but that should be enough to dig you out of trouble here. |
Rayka Vokan
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.26 11:55:38 -
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Excellent, I will try that tonight when I get back in.
Many thanks |
Major Trant
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
1300
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Posted - 2015.01.26 12:59:59 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Also, you can set your clone home station to your original school station - I believe its limited to once a year, but that should be enough to dig you out of trouble here. You can set your medical clone to your school station when ever you want. The one per year limit relates to a player corp HQ station. |
Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc.
922
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Posted - 2015.01.26 13:23:14 -
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grab a t1 exploration frig, some probes and wormhole your way out
pun so good. |
Dracones
Tarsis Inc
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Posted - 2015.01.26 15:51:26 -
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You need to open a support ticket for this. Returning players that have been gone for awhile can have 1 ship worth of property moved to a high-sec area by a GM. This is done so people old players won't have a "no point in returning to Eve, my guy is probably trapped out in nullsec" attitude.
Alternative solutions to this would be to use an interceptor or probe out a wormhole that will give you a short cut to low or high sec space. This is pretty easy to do but you'd need to know the mechanics for both which as a returning player you probably won't. |
Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY.
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Posted - 2015.01.26 17:23:00 -
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Dracones wrote:You need to open a support ticket for this. Returning players that have been gone for awhile can have 1 ship worth of property moved to a high-sec area by a GM. This is done so people old players won't have a "no point in returning to Eve, my guy is probably trapped out in nullsec" attitude.
Alternative solutions to this would be to use an interceptor or probe out a wormhole that will give you a short cut to low or high sec space. This is pretty easy to do but you'd need to know the mechanics for both which as a returning player you probably won't.
I heard that asking a GM for moving even 1 ship worth of property is hit and miss, they can deny that request as that isnt really the games fault, its the players fault. |
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5710
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Posted - 2015.01.26 22:36:54 -
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Solonius Rex wrote:Dracones wrote:You need to open a support ticket for this. Returning players that have been gone for awhile can have 1 ship worth of property moved to a high-sec area by a GM. This is done so people old players won't have a "no point in returning to Eve, my guy is probably trapped out in nullsec" attitude.
Alternative solutions to this would be to use an interceptor or probe out a wormhole that will give you a short cut to low or high sec space. This is pretty easy to do but you'd need to know the mechanics for both which as a returning player you probably won't. I heard that asking a GM for moving even 1 ship worth of property is hit and miss, they can deny that request as that isnt really the games fault, its the players fault.
All the people I know that tried after a 6+ month of complete unsub got the move granted. CCP is quite willing to help a person out who returns after a long break.
There was only one person I know that got denied cause he did keep the account active just didnt log in at all.
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Marsan
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Posted - 2015.01.26 22:44:37 -
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You could also check for entrances to Thera. This assumes you can buy a probe launcher and scanning probes.
http://www.eve-scout.com/
Former forum cheerleader CCP, now just a grumpy small portion of the community.
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Roel Yento
Death Row inc
47
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Posted - 2015.01.26 22:58:30 -
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They really shouldn't move stuff for people. Figure a way to get it out, put it for sale, or cut your loses. Made a choice to go to null and have lots of assets, deal with it. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
4460
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Posted - 2015.01.27 00:11:40 -
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Dracones wrote:You need to open a support ticket for this. Returning players that have been gone for awhile can have 1 ship worth of property moved to a high-sec area by a GM. This is done so people old players won't have a "no point in returning to Eve, my guy is probably trapped out in nullsec" attitude.
Alternative solutions to this would be to use an interceptor or probe out a wormhole that will give you a short cut to low or high sec space. This is pretty easy to do but you'd need to know the mechanics for both which as a returning player you probably won't.
Confirming they will usually do this once. The limit is one subcapital ship and everything that fits in its cargo. If you have a lot more stuff, then you will probably want to see if the new owners of your station are interested in a firesale. (You can still sell stuff on contracts there).
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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Phig Neutron
Rubicon Cubism
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Posted - 2015.01.27 00:45:09 -
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Marsan wrote:You could also check for entrances to Thera. This assumes you can buy a probe launcher and scanning probes. http://www.eve-scout.com/
I'm intrigued but don't know what I'm looking at. What is Thera? |
Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
4460
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Posted - 2015.01.27 00:47:14 -
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Thera is a new wormhole system that is ultra-connected. It is a very, very dangerous way to move things back to empire, but very fast when it is available.
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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Dracones
Tarsis Inc
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Posted - 2015.01.27 01:33:08 -
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Roel Yento wrote:They really shouldn't move stuff for people. Figure a way to get it out, put it for sale, or cut your loses. Made a choice to go to null and have lots of assets, deal with it.
Knowing all my assets were trapped in a Red station after being out of the game for several years kept me from re-subbing for a long time. When I did finally happen to resub, luckily everything was back in a prior home(why, I have no idea).
GMs being willing to do this is a good way to make sure people don't have any mental blocks for re-subbing. It's especially difficult because when you're back to the game after a few years you have to re-learn everything all over again. Doing that while you're trapped in null really isn't viable.
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Roel Yento
Death Row inc
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Posted - 2015.01.27 04:50:20 -
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Dracones wrote:Roel Yento wrote:They really shouldn't move stuff for people. Figure a way to get it out, put it for sale, or cut your loses. Made a choice to go to null and have lots of assets, deal with it. Knowing all my assets were trapped in a Red station after being out of the game for several years kept me from re-subbing for a long time. When I did finally happen to resub, luckily everything was back in a prior home(why, I have no idea). GMs being willing to do this is a good way to make sure people don't have any mental blocks for re-subbing. It's especially difficult because when you're back to the game after a few years you have to re-learn everything all over again. Doing that while you're trapped in null really isn't viable.
You aren't trapped in nulls, assets are unless you undock with them, sell them, or contract them. Your fault for having all your assets in a location you could lose them. I have stuff In sov null i left behind, i could go there and relist stuff on market or set contracts. If you can't handle the loss then don't keep everything in one spot. Considering i live in a POS, i don't agree with the safety net of having a gm fix my mistake. I could lose a bunch of ships if my pos is taken down but i still have stuff elsewhere so i don't end up with no ships to my name.
Not being able to deal with the consequences of your decision to keep everything in sov null knowing the risks is your mistake. Lucky for you it was a mistake on your part or moved by gm's. When you decide to live in null, be in fw and live in warzone, or live in a pos, there are certain risks you take and you shouldn't get a free pass from gm's because you can't handle a big loss if things don't work out. |
Winter Archipelago
Furtherance.
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Posted - 2015.01.27 05:04:19 -
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Dracones wrote:You need to open a support ticket for this. Returning players that have been gone for awhile can have 1 ship worth of property moved to a high-sec area by a GM. This is done so people old players won't have a "no point in returning to Eve, my guy is probably trapped out in nullsec" attitude. True Creations are a Sansha corp, so it sounds like he may be in NPC null. While he can give the petition route a try, NPC null doesn't have the same lock-out issues that player-controlled null does. The GM may simply wish him luck and close the ticket.
Ransoms are accepted in Isk, Mods, Ships, and Dolls.
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5710
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Posted - 2015.01.27 07:03:38 -
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Roel Yento wrote:They really shouldn't move stuff for people. Figure a way to get it out, put it for sale, or cut your loses. Made a choice to go to null and have lots of assets, deal with it.
Yeah. Let us scare away possible customers who pay our wages because they might have left in the past due something happening in real life.
A very logical thing to do, luckily you aint in control of CCP otherwise they would be losing more money cause of this.
They move exactly 1 ship plus cargo, so unless you happen to have a freighter in nullsec with you, most of the stuff will have to be sold anyway.
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5713
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Posted - 2015.01.27 07:07:16 -
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Winter Archipelago wrote:Dracones wrote:You need to open a support ticket for this. Returning players that have been gone for awhile can have 1 ship worth of property moved to a high-sec area by a GM. This is done so people old players won't have a "no point in returning to Eve, my guy is probably trapped out in nullsec" attitude. True Creations are a Sansha corp, so it sounds like he may be in NPC null. While he can give the petition route a try, NPC null doesn't have the same lock-out issues that player-controlled null does. The GM may simply wish him luck and close the ticket.
This.
As it is NPC null, I doubt they will move it as he can always redock at said station.
The move system AFAIK is meant for player controlled outposts/stations and if you have been away for a longer period of time.
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Roel Yento
Death Row inc
47
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Posted - 2015.01.27 11:13:33 -
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J'Poll wrote:Roel Yento wrote:They really shouldn't move stuff for people. Figure a way to get it out, put it for sale, or cut your loses. Made a choice to go to null and have lots of assets, deal with it. Yeah. Let us scare away possible customers who pay our wages because they might have left in the past due something happening in real life. A very logical thing to do, luckily you aint in control of CCP otherwise they would be losing more money cause of this. They move exactly 1 ship plus cargo, so unless you happen to have a freighter in nullsec with you, most of the stuff will have to be sold anyway.
So all the people that lose a station, pos, or lose system control in fw and get their stuff stuck or deatroyed get a free pass? No they don't, just the people that leave and get bent out of shape that they messed up by leaving assets in a place they can't retrieve them from. If loss is something a player can't deal with then maybe they shouldn't play a pvp focused game.
When someone rage quits over losing a blinged 2 bil marauder to gankers everyone says suck it up and deal with it. When someone leaves a few bil in nullsec and it gets stuck there you are saying they should get a free pass? Great logic on your part. |
Dracones
Tarsis Inc
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Posted - 2015.01.27 14:13:24 -
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Roel Yento wrote: So all the people that lose a station, pos, or lose system control in fw and get their stuff stuck or destroyed get a free pass? No they don't, just the people that leave and get bent out of shape that they messed up by leaving assets in a place they can't retrieve them from. If loss is something a player can't deal with then maybe they shouldn't play a pvp focused game.
There's a huge difference between putting your stuff into a station and watching the control flip(or your POS blow up) the next day vs being a member of a large alliance, living deep in their territory, letting your sub expire and then 3 years later you'll A: No longer be in that corp and B: The entire SOV landscape will likely have changed anyway.
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Roel Yento
Death Row inc
47
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Posted - 2015.01.27 14:39:58 -
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Dracones wrote:Roel Yento wrote: So all the people that lose a station, pos, or lose system control in fw and get their stuff stuck or destroyed get a free pass? No they don't, just the people that leave and get bent out of shape that they messed up by leaving assets in a place they can't retrieve them from. If loss is something a player can't deal with then maybe they shouldn't play a pvp focused game.
There's a huge difference between putting your stuff into a station and watching the control flip(or your POS blow up) the next day vs being a member of a large alliance, living deep in their territory, letting your sub expire and then 3 years later you'll A: No longer be in that corp and B: The entire SOV landscape will likely have changed anyway.
Most people have the opportunity to do somethig with their assets if they are taking a break, chosig not to is usually their fault barring medical issues, jail time, or getting orders to move via military immediately. The only difference you speak of is one is a gameplay mechanic everyone has to deal with and one is a gameplay mechanic you feel a gm should fix for you. Letting your sub slip for other reasons then deciding to return 3 years later was a choice. Could of moved your stuff a long time ago but you didn't care to. When a station flips and you are barred out or your pos is destroyed, you did not choose to be lazy. So you are saying laziness should be okay but taking and accepting consequences of your risks means those people are out of luck when they lose assets? |
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.01.27 15:10:34 -
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People please, the OP asked a simple question and has recieved several quite good answers for avenues to try out in regard to his stated problem. The fact that under certain conditions the GM team might decide to move asset X for player Y to location Z is not up for debate. Such decisions are at the sole discretion of CCP and theirs alone to make.
Any post continuing the discussion on such GM decisions will be considered off topic from here on.
And OP: Welcome back to EvE and good luck in your endeavours!
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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KapTaiN KaVerN
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
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Posted - 2015.02.02 14:26:19 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Thera is a new wormhole system that is ultra-connected. It is a very, very dangerous way to move things back to empire, but very fast when it is available.
It's not that dangerous if done properly and be preparing your trip.
I'm part of EVE-SCOUT alliance and we live in Thera and provide you the information on the eve-scout website + we can scout you through Thera
Here's what you can do :
- First check http://www.eve-scout.com/ and search for the closest entrance (you can set destination from igb directly btw)
- Then bring some speed ship (who can also probe and cloak if possible) to do all the BM you need
- The website even give you the name of the sig so you only need to scan one, bookmark the wormhole (not the sig from the probing window)
- During this, ask if someone on "Eve-scout" channel can scout you the entrance (and station if you wanna do tourism)
- Probe again the right exit (the right name is on the site again :-p )
- You even have the luxury to choose your point of arrival
If you have any questions just ask in "Eve-scout" channel and the website is : http://www.eve-scout.com/ |
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
461
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Posted - 2015.02.03 09:09:00 -
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Phig Neutron wrote:Marsan wrote:You could also check for entrances to Thera. This assumes you can buy a probe launcher and scanning probes. http://www.eve-scout.com/ I'm intrigued but don't know what I'm looking at. What is Thera?
It's a WH system that has huge amount of statics to all over EVE and has some special rules from both WH and null such as having 4 stations and no local, no star gates and no moons, all planets are shattered and a whopping 325 AU wide system.
Man that distance an my poor recon took me 3 jumps to get from hole to hole with a cap recharge in between.
also it's WH are unique to thera and behave differently from a normal WH of it's size. |
KapTaiN KaVerN
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
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Posted - 2015.02.03 17:04:48 -
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Eve University had a good page on it on their wiki
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Thera
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5783
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Posted - 2015.02.03 21:14:44 -
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Roel Yento wrote:J'Poll wrote:Roel Yento wrote:They really shouldn't move stuff for people. Figure a way to get it out, put it for sale, or cut your loses. Made a choice to go to null and have lots of assets, deal with it. Yeah. Let us scare away possible customers who pay our wages because they might have left in the past due something happening in real life. A very logical thing to do, luckily you aint in control of CCP otherwise they would be losing more money cause of this. They move exactly 1 ship plus cargo, so unless you happen to have a freighter in nullsec with you, most of the stuff will have to be sold anyway. So all the people that lose a station, pos, or lose system control in fw and get their stuff stuck or destroyed get a free pass? No they don't, just the people that leave and get bent out of shape that they messed up by leaving assets in a place they can't retrieve them from. If loss is something a player can't deal with then maybe they shouldn't play a pvp focused game. When someone rage quits over losing a blinged 2 bil marauder to gankers everyone says suck it up and deal with it. When someone leaves a few bil in nullsec and it gets stuck there you are saying they should get a free pass? Great logic on your part.
Wow. You really lack any form of logic thinking.
A. You play, you actively participate in EVE, you lose stuff...
Your choice on that.
B. You dont play for years cause of something so you had no ability or choice of what happened to what was going on in EVE. So yeah, it is a logical thing to do. It is called costumer service, something you clearly never heard about.
I know people personally who due to some serious family matter stopped playing from one day to another. You want those people to return if they wamt or just give up cause some serious RL issue is now preventing them from picking the game back up.
Obviously you are dumb enough and fail to see that any player that CCP assists and gets back into the game (that likely otherwise would just not return) is extra revenue for CCP.
God, I do hope you will never be in control of a company. If you do, I feel sorry for your customers and employees, the first for the crappy CS they will receive, the latfer cause they will quickly be without a job.
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Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY.
107
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Posted - 2015.02.04 00:10:51 -
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Dracones wrote:Roel Yento wrote: So all the people that lose a station, pos, or lose system control in fw and get their stuff stuck or destroyed get a free pass? No they don't, just the people that leave and get bent out of shape that they messed up by leaving assets in a place they can't retrieve them from. If loss is something a player can't deal with then maybe they shouldn't play a pvp focused game.
There's a huge difference between putting your stuff into a station and watching the control flip(or your POS blow up) the next day vs being a member of a large alliance, living deep in their territory, letting your sub expire and then 3 years later you'll A: No longer be in that corp and B: The entire SOV landscape will likely have changed anyway.
So... What, 1 day before your sub expires, you suddenly realize youre not going to resub and leave eve for 3 years?
If you have even a week before your subscription expires, and you know that you may not be able to resub, then its your choice, and your duty to move stuff out of the Station. You know as well as anyone that if you are going to be afk for even a month, the landscape, the owner of the Station may change, and you may be cut out of the loop.
I suppose its possible that the OP was in a car accident, and was in a coma for the past 3 years, and suddenly woke up saying "Hey, i wanna play Eve online again". But I doubt it. And even if that were the case, then sorry, but its too bad for you. Atleast you have your character. Atleast it wasnt deleted. Im sure theres a game out there where an account with 3 years inactivity would be deleted. Count your blessings and move on. |
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