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Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
359
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Posted - 2015.01.29 07:52:32 -
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Epikurus wrote:Veskrashen wrote: We clearly murdered more of your frigates, destroyers, and cruisers than we lost in return, both in absolute numbers and percentage of hulls fielded.
In terms of numbers, you are right that more Caldari ships died than Gallente but we also know that isk value is a far better way of seeing how the various sides were doing (losing one Garmur to two atrons in obviously not a win). And when we look at that the picture is rather different. At the frigate level losses were almost exactly equal at just over 6bil each. At the dessie/AF level there is a narrow gap in your favour (4.7bil vs 5.8bil). It's only really at the cruiser level that you were as dominant as you imply (3.3bil vs 5bil).
Sooo... what you're saying is that terms of both numbers and ISK GalMil came out ahead. Vesk's statement is accurate. Moving on...
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Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
68
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Posted - 2015.01.29 11:09:09 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:Epikurus wrote:Veskrashen wrote: We clearly murdered more of your frigates, destroyers, and cruisers than we lost in return, both in absolute numbers and percentage of hulls fielded.
In terms of numbers, you are right that more Caldari ships died than Gallente but we also know that isk value is a far better way of seeing how the various sides were doing (losing one Garmur to two atrons in obviously not a win). And when we look at that the picture is rather different. At the frigate level losses were almost exactly equal at just over 6bil each. At the dessie/AF level there is a narrow gap in your favour (4.7bil vs 5.8bil). It's only really at the cruiser level that you were as dominant as you imply (3.3bil vs 5bil). Sooo... what you're saying is that terms of both numbers and ISK GalMil came out ahead. Vesk's statement is accurate. Moving on...
Yes - I don't think there has been any dispute about that. The questions were 'how far ahead' and 'does that margin turn the strategic failure into a victory'? The answers are 'not very far ahead (and considerably less than in the past)' and 'hardly'. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
2778
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Posted - 2015.01.29 18:00:56 -
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Epikurus wrote:Yes - I don't think there has been any dispute about that. The questions were 'how far ahead' and 'does that margin turn the strategic failure into a victory'? The answers are 'not very far ahead (and considerably less than in the past)' and 'hardly'. Depends on what you mean by "strategic failure", doesn't it?
Taking Hasmijaala had a potentially huge payoff for our side because it would have demoralized your side yet again. Not taking Hasmijaala had a potentially huge payoff for your side because it would build tons of momentum for your side. (the pew was great while it lasted...)
Neither happened. We got some great fights that weekend in Innia, and then not much after that. Now the Occupancy War is quieting down, and the plexing pendulum seems to be slowly moving our way again.
All the speculation, probably on both sides, about what was going to happen after we failed in Hasmijaala was pretty much wrong (as it always is).
JUSTK is recruiting.
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1331
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Posted - 2015.01.29 23:10:29 -
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In pendulum news.
Seems the biggest development is that the russians have finally reached their end game nirvana. All the less busy systems are populated with both stabbed caldari and stabbed gallente farmers tit for tat plexing.
This has been an isolated practice for quite some time but it seems they have expanded in the last couple of weeks. |
Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
705
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Posted - 2015.01.30 08:31:15 -
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They are like mosquitoes, no matter how many you squish they just keep coming. |
Shaun Iwaira
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
6
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Posted - 2015.01.30 11:01:12 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:In pendulum news.
Seems the biggest development is that the russians have finally reached their end game nirvana. All the less busy systems are populated with both stabbed caldari and stabbed gallente farmers tit for tat plexing.
This has been an isolated practice for quite some time but it seems they have expanded in the last couple of weeks.
It really is time the russians got their own server imo.
Are you seriously suggesting segregation based on race? You have fallen to a new low Crosi. |
Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
68
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Posted - 2015.01.30 11:06:22 -
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X Gallentius wrote:We got some great fights that weekend in Innia, and then not much after that. Now the Occupancy War is quieting down, and the plexing pendulum seems to be slowly moving our way again.
While there haven't been any big fights since then, the volume of solo and small gang opportunities in west Black Rise is great at the moment. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1332
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Posted - 2015.01.30 11:20:51 -
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Shaun Iwaira wrote:Crosi Weso wrote: It really is time the russians got their own server imo.
Are you seriously suggesting segregation based on race? You have fallen to a new low Crosi.
Oh, i get it! Because 'russian' is a race? lol |
Lexiana Del'Amore
Nouvelle Rouvenor
96
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Posted - 2015.01.30 12:47:55 -
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truth is both militias suck, the quality and intensity of PVP has been abismal for 6 months now... |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1332
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Posted - 2015.01.30 13:23:35 -
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Lexiana Del'Amore wrote:truth is both militias suck, the quality and intensity of PVP other people look for and provide for me has been abismal for 6 months now...
FTFY :)
Snuff box ---> |
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Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
445
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Posted - 2015.01.30 14:10:10 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Shaun Iwaira wrote:Crosi Weso wrote: It really is time the russians got their own server imo.
Are you seriously suggesting segregation based on race? You have fallen to a new low Crosi. Oh, i get it! Because 'russian' is a race? lol I don't know. Does he have a valid argument? Putin's horse-riding Caucasian manboobs are such a turn on. Maybe there's a racial component?
But I also salivate over Diana Kim as well. I'm so confused now. Am I bi? And, Russian could be a separate race, not instead a nationality within a race. Or maybe it's a Google Translate issue?
No, it's better to have a persecution complex.
CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting-áoff button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.
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Lexiana Del'Amore
Nouvelle Rouvenor
96
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Posted - 2015.01.30 17:38:02 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Lexiana Del'Amore wrote:truth is both militias suck, the quality and intensity of PVP other people look for and provide for me has been abismal for 6 months now... FTFY :) Snuff box --->
Snuff are almost as pathetic as "solo" PVP'ers who need links, implants and boosters to manage a condor kill...
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1333
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Posted - 2015.01.30 18:06:38 -
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Lexiana Del'Amore wrote:Snuff are almost as pathetic as "solo" PVP'ers who need links, implants and boosters to manage a condor kill...
Least they dont come to the forum complaining how they cant get fights :)
Seems odd you think blowsing up cheap pixels in FW is pathetic and blowsing up expensive pixels with snuffbox is also pathetic.
Kinda reminds me of cearain, you could give that dude everything he wanted and hed still not be happy. |
Lexiana Del'Amore
Nouvelle Rouvenor
96
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Posted - 2015.01.30 18:44:11 -
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firstly i visit the forums once in a blue moon....
to your second point.... it's pathetic on the lower scale you needing every conceivable advantage the game has to offer to rack up a few more battle clinic points...although i do commend you for now being able to actually kill your targets "solo" instead of asking for backup to your Maulus in the days before the Garmur.
Snuffbox dominated our region of lowsec with a quarter of the players they have now. Them recruiting every decent PVP'er and his mother has in my eyes made them equally pathetic... As they have directly recruited from corps and alliances who would on occasion at least try to fight them... They are now a even bigger fish in a much smaller pond.
Faction Warfare has over the years moved from daily Battleship/Battlecruiser engagements and epic T2 cruiser brawls to 7 people in Cormorants getting the odd gank on a gate... and seeing the pathetic chestbeaters on both sides calling themselves the victor in this age is just sad... |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1333
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Posted - 2015.01.30 18:51:03 -
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Lexiana Del'Amore wrote:firstly i visit the forums once in a blue moon....
to your second point.... it's pathetic on the lower scale you needing every conceivable advantage the game has to offer to rack up a few more battle clinic points...although i do commend you for now being able to actually kill your targets "solo" instead of asking for backup to your Maulus in the days before the Garmur.
Snuffbox dominated our region of lowsec with a quarter of the players they have now. Them recruiting every decent PVP'er and his mother has in my eyes made them equally pathetic... As they have directly recruited from corps and alliances who would on occasion at least try to fight them... They are now a even bigger fish in a much smaller pond.
Faction Warfare has over the years moved from daily Battleship/Battlecruiser engagements and epic T2 cruiser brawls to 7 people in Cormorants getting the odd gank on a gate... and seeing the pathetic chestbeaters on both sides calling themselves the victor in this age is just sad...
Its a shame not everyone plays the way you want them to. This is a terrible state of affairs lol.
Im sure people will aspire to your standards in order to gain your crucial approval.
In the meantime, most people seem to be having fun :) |
Lexiana Del'Amore
Nouvelle Rouvenor
96
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Posted - 2015.01.30 19:08:12 -
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indeed... instead they now all play the Crosi Wesdo way... don't engage anything you're not 100% sure of winning... run away from anything resembling a true challange and call it victory through denail...
Seems all those years of being the negative nancy on teamspeak and talking every ballsy FC not to take the fight has finally paid off for you...
Now do what you always do... make sure you're the last one to respond, so in that tiny mind of yours you can once again claim to be victorious... The Crosi Wesdo way !!!
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Moglarr
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
41
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Posted - 2015.01.30 19:21:52 -
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Who gate camps in corms? I think they are doing it wrong. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1333
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Posted - 2015.01.30 19:31:15 -
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Lexiana Del'Amore wrote:indeed... instead they now all play the Crosi Wesdo way... don't engage anything you're not 100% sure of winning... run away from anything resembling a true challange and call it victory through denail...
Seems all those years of being the negative nancy on teamspeak and talking every ballsy FC not to take the fight has finally paid off for you...
Now do what you always do... make sure you're the last one to respond, so in that tiny mind of yours you can once again claim to be victorious... The Crosi Wesdo way !!!
Yep, telling people to not bother fighting equal numbers of absos or sacraliges with guards in our t1 cruiser gang just because we have a few griffins is a terrible crime lol.
Fact is you are as negative as i am. Im just negative about peoples gameplay choices, you seem to be negative about the people.
As for links and stuff, where i fly many people i fight have their own links. Theres no glory in suicide or shame in a 2008 player using things that he can effortlessly afford in a computer game.
Have fun whatever you are doing :)
EDIT - Oh you are killing kestrels, atrons and tristans. You really have stepped up your game since leaving the confines of FW lol |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
2779
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Posted - 2015.01.30 20:48:39 -
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Lexiana Del'Amore wrote:truth is both militias suck, the quality and intensity of PVP has been abismal for 6 months now... It picked up in January. Sept through Dec was really slow.
And by slow, I mean much more active than "back in the day", but slow by today's standards. The old way of daily BC/BS brawls is no longer possible due to increased hull costs (200 mil for a Domi instead of "free after insurance") and reduced isk/hour (used to make 300m+ isk/hour running FW missions - 4k isk/lp was my target price for drones).
JUSTK is recruiting.
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1337
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Posted - 2015.01.30 21:53:37 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Lexiana Del'Amore wrote:truth is both militias suck, the quality and intensity of PVP has been abismal for 6 months now... It picked up in January. Sept through Dec was really slow. And by slow, I mean much more active than "back in the day", but slow by today's standards. The old way of daily BC/BS brawls is no longer possible due to increased hull costs (200 mil for a Domi instead of "free after insurance") and reduced isk/hour (used to make 300m+ isk/hour running FW missions - 4k isk/lp was my target price for drones).
You misunderstand. Lexi is bored of the game and its got to be someone elses fault.
And only the way lexi flies is acceptable (usually in blobs), everything else is pathetic :) |
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
2779
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Posted - 2015.01.30 22:20:35 -
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#GallenteCivilWar
JUSTK is recruiting.
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Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
445
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Posted - 2015.01.30 22:55:49 -
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Crosi, I liked one of your posts on this page. My like brought you up to 1337 likes.* It was entirely inadvertent and in no way a brown nosing. But, please remember this if you an I find ourselves on opposite ends of a Galmil TS argument. I can't bear it when you focus your natural or practiced (and probably boosted) sarcasm on me.
So, Lexi left Galmil? No more will there be that brand of biting retort on comm . . I mean . . in fleet chat.
The thread should be retitled. Gallente gain Kinakka but ultimately lose through inter-bitter-vet forum flaming and defection. Must be the work of that supreme spy and puppet master IbanezLAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNEEEEEYYYYYYY
*Edit- and after I post this I notice that some fool just ruined the number with a further like
CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting-áoff button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.
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Silverbackyererse
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
123
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Posted - 2015.01.30 23:08:00 -
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Deacon Abox wrote:*Edit- and after I post this I notice that some fool just ruined the number with a further like
Well to be fair, he has many alts. Maybe he will stop when he reaches 8008 likes?
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1338
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Posted - 2015.01.31 00:29:31 -
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Silverbackyererse wrote:Deacon Abox wrote:*Edit- and after I post this I notice that some fool just ruined the number with a further like Well to be fair, he has many alts. Maybe he will stop when he reaches 8008 likes?
Nice tinfoil hattery
Also, welcome back to the pathetic militia with its spineless FC's lexi! Im sure if you invest in a mic and show the scrubs how its done we will all be better off lol. |
Dread Operative
Snuff Box Snuffed Out
400
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Posted - 2015.01.31 02:59:46 -
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Lexiana Del'Amore wrote: Snuffbox dominated our region of lowsec with a quarter of the players they have now. Them recruiting every decent PVP'er and his mother has in my eyes made them equally pathetic... As they have directly recruited from corps and alliances who would on occasion at least try to fight them... They are now a even bigger fish in a much smaller pond.
Obviously we couldn't have been recruiting because SC was bring on every swing **** they could get their hands on and we needed to get the groundwork going on a UStz. That would just be silly. |
Dread Delgarth
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
57
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Posted - 2015.01.31 18:46:13 -
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Well it looks like Mira deVorsha and his crew have seen the light and are splitting from the null bears Spaceship Samurai to concentrate on FW. I don't blame them TBH. |
Veskrashen
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
717
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Posted - 2015.01.31 19:23:43 -
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Dread Delgarth wrote:Well it looks like Mira deVorsha and his crew have seen the light and are splitting from the null bears Spaceship Samurai to concentrate on FW. I don't blame them TBH. Been waiting for that to happen. Wonder if not getting any support from the larger alliance in Eha had any impact.
We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..."
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
2781
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Posted - 2015.01.31 20:03:17 -
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Dread Operative wrote:Obviously we couldn't have been recruiting because SC was bring on every swing **** they could get their hands on and we needed to get the groundwork going on a UStz. That would just be silly. You may want to try to spend as much time figuring out what is really happening with your alliance as you spend trying to figure out what's happening with ours.
JUSTK is recruiting.
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1338
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Posted - 2015.01.31 21:37:46 -
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Dread Operative wrote:Lexiana Del'Amore wrote: Snuffbox dominated our region of lowsec with a quarter of the players they have now. Them recruiting every decent PVP'er and his mother has in my eyes made them equally pathetic... As they have directly recruited from corps and alliances who would on occasion at least try to fight them... They are now a even bigger fish in a much smaller pond.
Obviously we couldn't have been recruiting because SC was bring on every swing **** they could get their hands on and we needed to get the groundwork going on a UStz. That would just be silly.
Ive not been paying close attention but ive seen snuff and SC blue more ofen than fight each other. Dont think ive seen any signifivant fights between em at all lol.
I guess since both SC and snuff are already enough of a match for overload everything individually, it only makes sence you swrm together to expedite what mght have been a fight into a roflstom[p so you can get back to whatever other games yall play ore quickly :)
You are correct tho, perunga probs did need more ustz to man the gate in case some newbs got into low sec lol. |
Dread Operative
Snuff Box Snuffed Out
400
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Posted - 2015.02.01 04:15:55 -
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Ouch right in the feels guys. |
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