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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.27 07:53:21 -
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So CSM minutes, apparently ALL ships will be touched on design wise, including chimera
chimera is literally the only carrier i think actually LOOKS like a carrier, aside from maybe the nid/hel. plus its launch ramp reminds me of gundam.
In short if it has to be changed, dont change it too much, i still want to be able to easily recognize it as a CHIMERA afterwards |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6132
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Posted - 2015.01.27 07:57:03 -
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When they are done with it, it'll have domes full of plants like from "Silent Running" and pools and stuff.
Just kidding.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Sean Apollo
Vitriolic Animosity
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Posted - 2015.01.27 07:57:20 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:So CSM minutes, apparently ALL ships will be touched on design wise, including chimera
chimera is literally the only carrier i think actually LOOKS like a carrier, aside from maybe the nid/hel. plus its launch ramp reminds me of gundam.
In short if it has to be changed, dont change it too much, i still want to be able to easily recognize it as a CHIMERA afterwards I don't think you should worry. The recent ships they have added/ redesigned look great. I'm pretty excited on how they will change the looks of them
Most people hate me...
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Alastair Ormand
Don't run with a stick in your mouth.
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Posted - 2015.01.27 08:00:36 -
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Change is good everyone once and a while.
Don't run with a stick in your mouth.
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1764
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Posted - 2015.01.27 08:03:41 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:So CSM minutes, apparently ALL ships will be touched on design wise, including chimera
chimera is literally the only carrier i think actually LOOKS like a carrier, aside from maybe the nid/hel. plus its launch ramp reminds me of gundam.
In short if it has to be changed, dont change it too much, i still want to be able to easily recognize it as a CHIMERA afterwards There are ALOT of ships that they just should not change, so I completely agree with you.
They should touch on the designs, by making the textures more modern and adding more detail to the model (if it would make it look better, but they definitely just should not go removing key features on well-liked ships.
There was another thread on this, so hopefully CCP actually saw that we like certain ship models, and don't want them changed design-wise.
I'll give my support for the Hel and Niddoggur, and the Chimera which looks pretty good too.
Hopefully it's just the textures, and not a complete redesign. Hopefully. |
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
1731
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Posted - 2015.01.27 08:04:03 -
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Alastair Ormand wrote:Change is good everyone once and a while. change while retaining the sole of the original is best. change to try and make something better when necessary is good. change for the sake of change is terrible, always. |
Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2015.01.27 10:17:03 -
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Changing the Chimera? No thanx
Do something with the Aeon already! |
Serene Repose
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Posted - 2015.01.27 10:38:50 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:Alastair Ormand wrote:Change is good everyone once and a while. change while retaining the sole of the original is best. change to try and make something better when necessary is good. change for the sake of change is terrible, always. (Since you're the OP) Is that change to the bottom of one's foot, or were you trying to say "soul"? I guess if one doesn't believe there IS a soul, it's kinda hard to use that euphamism. Necessity is the mother of invention. However, necessary is often a judgement call which puts you back to square one. Life is change. It differs from the rocks. Though, rocks change, too, continually until they become the sand and soil.
I like - It's their game. They can do what they like with it. If we don't like it (as customers) we can always shop somewhere else.
PS Truisms are easy to come up with, no?
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2015.01.27 10:53:18 -
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Maybe they just want to make it a bit bigger to not be mistaken for a battleship?
Dominique Vasilkovsky EVEboard
Once known as:
Mashie Saldana sold - Anastasia Rigel sold - Monica Foulkes sold
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Another Posting Alt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.27 12:36:59 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:When they are done with it, it'll have domes full of plants like from "Silent Running" and pools and stuff.
Ahhh the ultimate carebear botter ship. |
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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
1732
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Posted - 2015.01.27 13:25:09 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote:Alastair Ormand wrote:Change is good everyone once and a while. change while retaining the sole of the original is best. change to try and make something better when necessary is good. change for the sake of change is terrible, always. (Since you're the OP) Is that change to the bottom of one's foot, or were you trying to say "soul"? I guess if one doesn't believe there IS a soul, it's kinda hard to use that euphamism. Necessity is the mother of invention. However, necessary is often a judgement call which puts you back to square one. Life is change. It differs from the rocks. Though, rocks change, too, continually until they become the sand and soil. I like - It's their game. They can do what they like with it. If we don't like it (as customers) we can always shop somewhere else. PS Truisms are easy to come up with, no? yeah soul... sorry, posted the OP after 32 hours of no sleep and little food (college+work is an evil thing) |
Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.27 22:27:01 -
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NO!
Don't you dare touch my ******* Chimera! It's already beautiful, delicious and awesome! |
Arronicus
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx
1446
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Posted - 2015.01.28 03:31:37 -
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Sean Apollo wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote:So CSM minutes, apparently ALL ships will be touched on design wise, including chimera
chimera is literally the only carrier i think actually LOOKS like a carrier, aside from maybe the nid/hel. plus its launch ramp reminds me of gundam.
In short if it has to be changed, dont change it too much, i still want to be able to easily recognize it as a CHIMERA afterwards I don't think you should worry. The recent ships they have added/ redesigned look great. I'm pretty excited on how they will change the looks of them
You seem to have not seen many of them. Particularly the new blackbird/falcon that looks like our graphics rendering messed up and created some distorted box, that doesn't fit in with any of the other ships in eve. Or the way they ruined the paintjobs on many, if not most pirate faction ships. Or other iconic ships that got ruined like the vagabond.
Small touchups, sure, but their current trend of destroying the ships that we have grown to love for asymetrical cop-outs is saddening. |
Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans
1940
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Posted - 2015.01.28 03:38:20 -
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Just hurry up and make the ragnarok beautiful. And not a turd-textured pirate ship. |
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
796
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Posted - 2015.01.28 04:18:27 -
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Arronicus wrote:You seem to have not seen many of them. Particularly the new blackbird/falcon that looks like our graphics rendering messed up and created some distorted box, that doesn't fit in with any of the other ships in eve. Or the way they ruined the paintjobs on many, if not most pirate faction ships. Or other iconic ships that got ruined like the vagabond.
OK, first, breathe with me: [ whwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhh ]
Now.
If you're referring to the Blackbird/Falcon/Rook being off-center in the camera, the new design revealed a specific issue with our old algorithm for calculating bounding spheres. A fix is in work.
As promised with CCP Mankiller's dev blog from December, Team TriLambda is revisiting every ship to improve the look. This work is also ongoing.
The art team knows we have farther to go to nail the looks of many ships in the game, and there are strong voices speaking for the players on this. Fixes won't be immediate but they are coming.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29610
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Posted - 2015.01.28 05:24:28 -
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A year later, I'm maybe OK with the look of the Golem. In comparison, the structure of the Raven under the wings is reminiscent of SoCT and the Gnosis.
What about stations and their scale? Suspension of disbelief is rather strong with them. Can we make that jump and have them span a grid?
waiiiit a second. Has there been a commitment to give distinct models to T2 ships, from their base hulls?
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XxRTEKxX
256th Shadow Wing The Sinful Legion
150
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Posted - 2015.01.28 06:15:31 -
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I hope they don't fubar the Chimera either |
SiKong Ma
House of Nim-Lhach Skeleton Crew.
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Posted - 2015.01.28 06:23:32 -
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Hello Art Devs,
I like what you did to Scorpion hull, Maller hull, Apoc hull, Moa hull and the latest Exequror hull. For the Blackbird, in normal mode is ok looking but when in warp, please find a way to not animate the hull to have a pair of eye brows.
As for Chimera, the hull looks good, just the colour tone looks bland. My opinion is that a redesign is ok but please do not put eye brows on Chimera as well.
Thank you. |
Claud Tiberius
Fidelas Constans
91
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Posted - 2015.01.28 06:59:44 -
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Upgrade the Phoenix please! Its not too pleasing to look at a giant gray box in space.
Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29610
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Posted - 2015.01.28 07:24:55 -
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I always thought the Phoenix looked formidable. Even handsome. If only it was something to be scared of.
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2015.01.28 08:59:35 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:As promised with CCP Mankiller's dev blog from December, Team TriLambda is revisiting every ship to improve the look. This work is also ongoing.
The art team knows we have farther to go to nail the looks of many ships in the game, and there are strong voices speaking for the players on this. Fixes won't be immediate but they are coming. Good, can't wait to have the Sleipnir back in the Cyclone hull. It is just looking rubbish and wrong in the Hurricane hull.
Dominique Vasilkovsky EVEboard
Once known as:
Mashie Saldana sold - Anastasia Rigel sold - Monica Foulkes sold
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
801
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Posted - 2015.01.28 11:12:12 -
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Dominique Vasilkovsky wrote:Good, can't wait to have the Sleipnir back in the Cyclone hull. It is just looking rubbish and wrong in the Hurricane hull.
Sorry, but this won't be changing back. I liked the version based on the Cyclone hull too, but the idea is that ships with the same hull have similar weapon bonuses.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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Sir Substance
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
662
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Posted - 2015.01.28 13:17:35 -
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SiKong Ma wrote: I like what you did to Scorpion hull, Maller hull, Apoc hull, Moa hull and the latest Exequror hull. For the Blackbird, in normal mode is ok looking but when in warp, please find a way to not animate the hull to have a pair of eye brows.
Literally the first thing I noticed on going into warp, for some reason massive eybrows give it an upper-class british accent in my head.
"By jove, just look at how fast I'm going! I'm not sure I approve of such reckless speed."
The beatings will continue until posting improves. -Magnus Cortex
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Valterra Craven
428
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Posted - 2015.01.28 16:04:13 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:
If you're referring to the Blackbird/Falcon/Rook being off-center in the camera, the new design revealed a specific issue with our old algorithm for calculating bounding spheres. A fix is in work.
As promised with CCP Mankiller's dev blog from December, Team TriLambda is revisiting every ship to improve the look. This work is also ongoing.
The art team knows we have farther to go to nail the looks of many ships in the game, and there are strong voices speaking for the players on this. Fixes won't be immediate but they are coming.
Personally I don't think the reason the Blackbird looks worse than before has anything to do with being off-center. The new design is terrible. It looks bad from any angle you look at it. I really wish you guys would release several ideas of what a ship remodel could look like but instead you guys just ram your "art" down our throats. I can't remember the last time a major change was made to a ship model based on player feedback. |
Valterra Craven
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Posted - 2015.01.28 16:06:48 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:Dominique Vasilkovsky wrote:Good, can't wait to have the Sleipnir back in the Cyclone hull. It is just looking rubbish and wrong in the Hurricane hull. Sorry, but this won't be changing back. I liked the version based on the Cyclone hull too, but the idea is that ships with the same hull have similar weapon bonuses.
Its an idea with poor execution. You guys did a few ships and don't seem to care about the rest... like why the caldari missile assault frig is not based on the kestrel model... I understand not everything can be done at once, but you guys rarely if ever consistently truly finish projects even as simple as model changes. |
Kelleth Kirk
Angels with Artillery
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Posted - 2015.01.28 16:13:58 -
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Hope the Vexor is up next... Would be nice with a good looking Drone Cruiser =)
Why don't you move out 30km and stand still for me? Pretty please?
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Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
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Posted - 2015.01.28 16:33:56 -
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Heh i am just glad things are rolling in visuals.
Nid and hell need more detail surfaces around landing platforms mostly to reduce simple "tent" look.
Typhoon could have on that front side stick out part turned into landing pad repair space visually w broken drone some mech cranes few lights.
Tempest fleet issue should get its unique wings back ASAP who ever removed it should go ahead and hang him self.
Also that artwork tempest is the only tempest there should be in game new look is better than old school in game models but cant stand tall to the artwork one it is so minmatar it isn't even funny why it snit in game asset. |
Anabella Rella
Gradient
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Posted - 2015.01.28 17:41:21 -
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I agree with the OP's sentiment. The Chimera's current look is very fitting and I hope it's not radically changed.
I primarily fly Minmatar ships and am pleased with where they are overall now so I hope that very serious consideration is given when iconic ships like the Rifter are revamped. After the great job done with the Tempest and Typhoon visual updates I'd really hate it if they did to the Rifter, Thrasher or Hurricane what they did with the poor Blackbird/Falcon/Rook.
When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.01.28 17:52:59 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:Dominique Vasilkovsky wrote:Good, can't wait to have the Sleipnir back in the Cyclone hull. It is just looking rubbish and wrong in the Hurricane hull. Sorry, but this won't be changing back. I liked the version based on the Cyclone hull too, but the idea is that ships with the same hull have similar weapon bonuses.
Its all a matter of taste, I personally love the new sleipnir hull :)
And regardless, it was definitely a good move to diversify hulls for command ships.
Signature Tanking - Best Tanking
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Dersen Lowery
Drinking in Station
1437
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Posted - 2015.01.28 19:47:33 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:Arronicus wrote:You seem to have not seen many of them. Particularly the new blackbird/falcon that looks like our graphics rendering messed up and created some distorted box, that doesn't fit in with any of the other ships in eve. Or the way they ruined the paintjobs on many, if not most pirate faction ships. Or other iconic ships that got ruined like the vagabond. OK, first, breathe with me: [ whwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhh ]
Don't you mean psssssssssssh?
OK, seriously, the Phoenix looks great. The Chimera doesn't look bad.
The Rag should be vertical.
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