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Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
504
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Posted - 2015.01.29 15:32:55 -
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Thomas Mayaki wrote:Its funny people who frequently and foolishly risk billions of isk worth of ships and cargo by not taking precautions to protect their cargo or ships while flying through well known ganking hotspots are called carebears by people who dare not undock in anything other than a 7million isk ship. But that aside I am glad you like the idea :). FTFY.
Gankers use the 7Ps, why can't haulers?
ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"
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Thomas Mayaki
Perkone Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2015.01.29 15:34:04 -
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Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:I seriously doubt the majority of the crying would come from gankers and bumpers, they'd just deal with it and adapt their tactics to take advantage of it; mission runners, haulers and miners on the other hand...
Can you please please tell them (the gankers) that as I have frankily got quite bored with all the sobbing about procurers and skiffs and all the other changes which mean they can't suicide gank exhumers in million isk ships any more. Thx. |
Mag's
the united
18954
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Posted - 2015.01.29 15:37:11 -
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Thomas Mayaki wrote:Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:I seriously doubt the majority of the crying would come from gankers and bumpers, they'd just deal with it and adapt their tactics to take advantage of it; mission runners, haulers and miners on the other hand... Can you please please tell them (the gankers) that as I have frankily got quite bored with all the sobbing about procurers and skiffs and all the other changes which mean they can't suicide gank exhumers in million isk ships any more. Thx. I will get right on that, as soon as I've worked my way through the crying and whining about clocking, ganking, bumping and hyperdunking.
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Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY.
72
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Posted - 2015.01.29 15:37:40 -
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I think wardec avoiders should pay for hiding in NPC corps.
I think NPC corps should incrase taxes to 75%. That'll teach them. |
Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
506
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Posted - 2015.01.29 15:39:30 -
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Thomas Mayaki wrote:Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:I seriously doubt the majority of the crying would come from gankers and bumpers, they'd just deal with it and adapt their tactics to take advantage of it; mission runners, haulers and miners on the other hand... Can you please please tell them (the gankers) that as I have frankily got quite bored with all the sobbing about procurers and skiffs and all the other changes which mean they can't suicide gank exhumers in million isk ships any more. Thx. I didn't say that there wouldn't be any crying from gankers, I said that they wouldn't be the majority of those producing the tears if the bumping mechanics were changed to include collision damage.
Try reading the whole post instead of ignoring the bits that don't fit in with your views. Reading comprehension is a vital skill in life, try using it.
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Thomas Mayaki
Perkone Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2015.01.29 15:56:56 -
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Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:Thomas Mayaki wrote:Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:I seriously doubt the majority of the crying would come from gankers and bumpers, they'd just deal with it and adapt their tactics to take advantage of it; mission runners, haulers and miners on the other hand... Can you please please tell them (the gankers) that as I have frankily got quite bored with all the sobbing about procurers and skiffs and all the other changes which mean they can't suicide gank exhumers in million isk ships any more. Thx. I didn't say that there wouldn't be any crying from gankers, I said that they wouldn't be in the majority of those producing the tears. Try reading the whole post instead of ignoring the bits that don't fit in with your views. Reading comprehension is a vital skill, try using it.
I quoted you directly and in full or do you mean I should have 'fixed' your quote. Since where did I say only gankers get upset? I know reading hurts your mind but no need to write dribble. |
Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
508
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Posted - 2015.01.29 16:00:32 -
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Thomas Mayaki wrote:Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:Thomas Mayaki wrote:Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:I seriously doubt the majority of the crying would come from gankers and bumpers, they'd just deal with it and adapt their tactics to take advantage of it; mission runners, haulers and miners on the other hand... Can you please please tell them (the gankers) that as I have frankily got quite bored with all the sobbing about procurers and skiffs and all the other changes which mean they can't suicide gank exhumers in million isk ships any more. Thx. I didn't say that there wouldn't be any crying from gankers, I said that they wouldn't be in the majority of those producing the tears. Try reading the whole post instead of ignoring the bits that don't fit in with your views. Reading comprehension is a vital skill, try using it. I quoted you directly and in full or do you mean I should have 'fixed' your quote. Since where did I say only gankers get upset? I know reading hurts your mind but no need to write dribble. Just because you quoted it doesn't mean you read or understood it, as is obvious by the point you tried and failed to make
Please insert another coin to continue.
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Catalytic morphisis
We're Serious
97
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Posted - 2015.01.29 16:50:06 -
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Dradis Aulmais wrote:All players in a npc corp should be forced to have bunny suits on the avatars.
This Needs to be implemented for Everyone, I'd have that on my avatar in a second!
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Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
512
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Posted - 2015.01.29 19:01:25 -
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Catalytic morphisis wrote:Dradis Aulmais wrote:All players in a npc corp should be forced to have bunny suits on the avatars.
This Needs to be implemented for Everyone, I'd have that on my avatar in a second! Indeed, especially if it's Franks Guristas bunny suit from Donnie Darko.
ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"
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Dradis Aulmais
By Light and Banner's Fallen
678
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Posted - 2015.01.29 19:02:31 -
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Catalytic morphisis wrote:Dradis Aulmais wrote:All players in a npc corp should be forced to have bunny suits on the avatars.
This Needs to be implemented for Everyone, I'd have that on my avatar in a second!
If it is I get to have the only blue one
Cuz guy stuff
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Kane Ceres
Makiriemi Industries
8
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Posted - 2015.01.29 21:01:48 -
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Futt Isimazu wrote:I want bumpers to pay for hiding in NPC corps.
I think NPC corps should reduce your speed by 50%. That'll teach them.
Talks about people in NPC corps to avoid war decs... while in an NPC corp.
Op just combined trolling and inception.. I give you trollception..
patent pending. |
Futt Isimazu
State War Academy Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2015.01.29 21:07:45 -
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Kane Ceres wrote:Futt Isimazu wrote:I want bumpers to pay for hiding in NPC corps.
I think NPC corps should reduce your speed by 50%. That'll teach them. Talks about people in NPC corps to avoid war decs... while in an NPC corp. Op just combined trolling and inception.. I give you trollception.. patent pending.
im just a forum alt bcuz if i post in my main then all the gankers here will come wardec and gank me |
Kane Ceres
Makiriemi Industries
8
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Posted - 2015.01.29 21:10:31 -
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Futt Isimazu wrote:Kane Ceres wrote:Futt Isimazu wrote:I want bumpers to pay for hiding in NPC corps.
I think NPC corps should reduce your speed by 50%. That'll teach them. Talks about people in NPC corps to avoid war decs... while in an NPC corp. Op just combined trolling and inception.. I give you trollception.. patent pending. im just a forum TROLL bcuz if i post in my main then all the gankers here will come wardec and gank me
FTFY |
Futt Isimazu
State War Academy Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2015.01.29 21:23:25 -
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Kane Ceres wrote:Futt Isimazu wrote:Kane Ceres wrote:Futt Isimazu wrote:I want bumpers to pay for hiding in NPC corps.
I think NPC corps should reduce your speed by 50%. That'll teach them. Talks about people in NPC corps to avoid war decs... while in an NPC corp. Op just combined trolling and inception.. I give you trollception.. patent pending. im just a forum TROLL bcuz if i post in my main then all the gankers here will come wardec and gank me FTFY
I'm not a troll, this bumping crap is a serious problem!!
gankers always whine about miners going to NPC corps but use them themselves and im sick of it! |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
1320
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Posted - 2015.01.29 21:32:13 -
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Not everyone in an NPC corp is a bumper. Applying a penalty to all characters in NPC corps to "deal" with the "problem" of bumping makes as much sense as dispensing feminine sanitation products to men.
Yes, I went there.
Okay, so you want to only target bumpers? Great. But there's still a huge problem: where do you draw the line between bumping into a ship by accident, especially at a crowded station undock, and deliberately bumping a ship in order to impact it in some negative way?
Two bumps? Three bumps?
Bumping it going fast enough?
Bumping it by hitting approach?
How do you tell the difference between someone bumping a freighter to keep it from warping, and someone bumping into a friendly Orca that they're approaching to get into range to offload minerals? It's like art: you know it when you see it. Unfortunately, the server isn't an art connoisseur and it needs a very clearly constructed set of rules to define aggressive bumping before it can impart any consequences.
"Bumping" is incredibly subjective. Until someone can come up with a 100% accurate, objective way to differentiate between deliberate bumping with the intent to cause harm and accidental bumping, there really isn't anything CCP can do to punish bumpers outside of reporting persistent bumpers for harassment. I'd wager that the subjectiveness of bumping is a large part of why they allow it. It's not like Crimewatch where there are very fixed and clear criteria for triggering responses.
My Many Misadventures
Reading Comprehension: so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
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Mag's
the united
18959
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Posted - 2015.01.29 21:35:56 -
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Futt Isimazu wrote:I'm not a troll, this bumping crap is a serious problem!! So serious CCP have said it's OK?
CCP, why so serious?
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Paranoid Loyd
3688
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Posted - 2015.01.29 21:39:50 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote: makes as much sense as dispensing feminine sanitation products to men. Well, they are quite absorbent, they will probably work well for tears
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Mag's
the united
18962
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Posted - 2015.01.29 21:57:09 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Bronson Hughes wrote: makes as much sense as dispensing feminine sanitation products to men. Well, they are quite absorbent, they will probably work well for tears Oh man that's funny. The things we get our kids to do, or they do themselves.
"No Simon, it's a mask to cover your eyes at night."
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Dradis Aulmais
By Light and Banner's Fallen
680
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Posted - 2015.01.30 00:23:21 -
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Mag's wrote:Futt Isimazu wrote:I'm not a troll, this bumping crap is a serious problem!! So serious that CCP have said it's OK? CCP, why so serious?
Fixed that for ya
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Do No Vote For: Tora Bushido, Bobmon
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Quantum Distributions
1401
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Posted - 2015.01.30 06:07:04 -
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Kane Ceres wrote:Futt Isimazu wrote:I want bumpers to pay for hiding in NPC corps.
I think NPC corps should reduce your speed by 50%. That'll teach them. Talks about people in NPC corps to avoid war decs... while in an NPC corp. Op just combined trolling and inception.. I give you trollception.. patent pending. I'm pretty sure that was copyrighted a few years back.
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Quantum Distributions
1401
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Posted - 2015.01.30 06:08:31 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:Not everyone in an NPC corp is a bumper. Applying a penalty to all characters in NPC corps to "deal" with the "problem" of bumping makes as much sense as dispensing feminine sanitation products to men.
Yes, I went there.
Okay, so you want to only target bumpers? Great. But there's still a huge problem: where do you draw the line between bumping into a ship by accident, especially at a crowded station undock, and deliberately bumping a ship in order to impact it in some negative way?
Two bumps? Three bumps?
Bumping it going fast enough?
Bumping it by hitting approach?
How do you tell the difference between someone bumping a freighter to keep it from warping, and someone bumping into a friendly Orca that they're approaching to get into range to offload minerals? It's like art: you know it when you see it. Unfortunately, the server isn't an art connoisseur and it needs a very clearly constructed set of rules to define aggressive bumping before it can impart any consequences.
"Bumping" is incredibly subjective. Until someone can come up with a 100% accurate, objective way to differentiate between deliberate bumping with the intent to cause harm and accidental bumping, there really isn't anything CCP can do to punish bumpers outside of reporting persistent bumpers for harassment. I'd wager that the subjectiveness of bumping is a large part of why they allow it. It's not like Crimewatch where there are very fixed and clear criteria for triggering responses. Bronson! Stop taking the thread seriously! The universe is already on edge from that one time that Veers said something intelligent, you might rip it apart!
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