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ZheoTheThird
Hoover Inc. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.01.30 15:21:21 -
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+1, excellent guy with excellent ideas |
Dodo Veetee
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society Black Legion.
21
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Posted - 2015.01.30 16:05:25 -
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+1
you get my vote |
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.31 18:14:03 -
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Migui X'hyrrn wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote: I can at least make a LITTLE isk while chatting with friends and doing business work, so I can afford a couple frigs for a weekend roam when im NOT at work.. And I'm not against that like I already explained. But I think that people paying attention should get more. but thats not how supply and demand works, you either drastically nerf semi-passive mining's rate to the point its not worth doing so people will actually DO the active version, or you make the active version several magnitudes more "valuable", but since this is just grabbing resources, it will just increase the mineral influx, driving down all the prices, until the active version is at the same if not slightly above current, and the passive is no longer able to make any income whatsoever.
remember gun mining? that was basically the "pay attention and get more minerals than regular mining" option, CCP removed it because it ended up being a significant source of minerals, and a primary reason why mining was such ****** income then to begin with. |
Migui X'hyrrn
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.01.31 19:06:16 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote: but thats not how supply and demand works, you either drastically nerf semi-passive mining's rate to the point its not worth doing so people will actually DO the active version, or you make the active version several magnitudes more "valuable", but since this is just grabbing resources, it will just increase the mineral influx, driving down all the prices, until the active version is at the same if not slightly above current, and the passive is no longer able to make any income whatsoever.
remember gun mining? that was basically the "pay attention and get more minerals than regular mining" option, CCP removed it because it ended up being a significant source of minerals, and a primary reason why mining was such ****** income then to begin with.
I'm pretty sure that when CCP banned broadcasting many people came up to the same conclussion: oh, now that multiboxing miners aren't reliable in huge scale, the market is going to be damaged! EVE is going to die!
Pretty much the same when ice belts were removed, etc. The reality is that people will adapt to new mechanics and will always find a way to take advantage of them.
Removing botting from EVE is very important. And be on the screen should always be more rewarding than not. In highsec you simply are a drop in an ocean of horrible tanked mackinaws that are going to die in a 0.5 so you feel safer.
Ninja-gas mining in a c6 with a week old venture can net you more ISK than mining with a full skilled mackinaw per hour. Of course risk is much bigger.
Migui is running for CSM10!
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Indivil
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2015.02.01 08:54:30 -
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Migui for president! +1 |
Lomgrim
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.02.02 04:23:19 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:Migui X'hyrrn wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote: I can at least make a LITTLE isk while chatting with friends and doing business work, so I can afford a couple frigs for a weekend roam when im NOT at work.. And I'm not against that like I already explained. But I think that people paying attention should get more. but thats not how supply and demand works, you either drastically nerf semi-passive mining's rate to the point its not worth doing so people will actually DO the active version, or you make the active version several magnitudes more "valuable", but since this is just grabbing resources, it will just increase the mineral influx, driving down all the prices, until the active version is at the same if not slightly above current, and the passive is no longer able to make any income whatsoever. remember gun mining? that was basically the "pay attention and get more minerals than regular mining" option, CCP removed it because it ended up being a significant source of minerals, and a primary reason why mining was such ****** income then to begin with.
UNless active version comes with some added perk that has direct implication on just simple "resource" grabbing mechanism. in either way, the idea isnt to maintain the status quo of the market, but rather to make sure that active mining is able to compete with an army of bots, at which points, yes, chances are they will be on equal footing in terms of raw market impact, but the difference is taht a newbro flying a venture actively mining might be able to keep up with 2 botted accounts afk-mining.
Also, migui +1 |
Zadinliar Kondur
Uranus Intruders Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2015.02.02 08:13:59 -
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Vote for Migui! +1 |
Johnathan Severasse
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society Black Legion.
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Posted - 2015.02.02 17:48:28 -
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+1
Good guy |
Fran Riko
Nan Roig
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Posted - 2015.02.03 15:58:21 -
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+1 |
Bolur Freir
Rubella Solaris Test Alliance Please Ignore
15
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Posted - 2015.02.05 04:12:43 -
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Lomgrim wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote:Migui X'hyrrn wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote: I can at least make a LITTLE isk while chatting with friends and doing business work, so I can afford a couple frigs for a weekend roam when im NOT at work.. And I'm not against that like I already explained. But I think that people paying attention should get more. but thats not how supply and demand works, you either drastically nerf semi-passive mining's rate to the point its not worth doing so people will actually DO the active version, or you make the active version several magnitudes more "valuable", but since this is just grabbing resources, it will just increase the mineral influx, driving down all the prices, until the active version is at the same if not slightly above current, and the passive is no longer able to make any income whatsoever. remember gun mining? that was basically the "pay attention and get more minerals than regular mining" option, CCP removed it because it ended up being a significant source of minerals, and a primary reason why mining was such ****** income then to begin with. UNless active version comes with some added perk that has direct implication on just simple "resource" grabbing mechanism. in either way, the idea isnt to maintain the status quo of the market, but rather to make sure that active mining is able to compete with an army of bots, at which points, yes, chances are they will be on equal footing in terms of raw market impact, but the difference is taht a newbro flying a venture actively mining might be able to keep up with 2 botted accounts afk-mining. Also, migui +1
I agree, there's no reason to remove the afk mining but an active play style should have increased reward.
Migui is awesome +1 |
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Ikadz
The Thought Gang
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Posted - 2015.02.05 20:29:33 -
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I'm one of those newbies who stayed at Eve because of his help at first stages.
+1 |
Baal Zebud
Uranus Intruders Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:52:54 -
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Have known Migui ingame for a while and can-¦t think of a better CSM candidate.
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Fletcher Kanewald
Jump Drive Appreciation Society Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2015.02.10 01:56:20 -
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What do you think should be done about the New Player Experience to help with player retention? You mentioned not wanting new players to grind for PLEX to sub their accounts, but you didn't say much else about the NPE. |
Migui X'hyrrn
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.02.10 17:54:04 -
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Fletcher Kanewald wrote:What do you think should be done about the New Player Experience to help with player retention? You mentioned not wanting new players to grind for PLEX to sub their accounts, but you didn't say much else about the NPE.
I think that players should use the trial to actually try the game. The metagaming is so hard that we aren't likely going to let trials in in most corps or alliances, sadly. But this said, the tutorials or something else should have a way to showcase the game better to the newbros.
EVE is a dynamic place, it is not only killing the same rat a million times before you are done, it is not only about rocks. Many newbros are fooled into thinking that missions and mining are the best thing to earn money as a newbro, and they stick with that until they give up because grinding 800M as a newbro is hard.
But there is a lot of stuff just to try out there. Why aren't we showing them? Exploration, wormholes, ninja-gas mining, even getting eyes over one of those huge fights that come up into the social media, whatever. EVE is a real living thing, made up by players, it breathes and it is amazing, but we have to show them how amazing it can be without having to wait weeks or months or forever until they suddenly make into a corp that does that kind of stuff.
EVE is a game about meaningful decisions but you can't decide without knowledge and without anything to compare. Take a newbro into nullsec. Have him die to a gatecamp. Give him another ship and teach them to be careful. Show them to use dscan and stuff to venture into the deep space without being completely alone or relying into having luck.
New Player Experience is showing them why we love this game despite all the huge wall that the learning curve is. We don't need a flat learning curve either, but many things can be improved the first two weeks of a character that can dramatically change the decision to subscribe or to leave forever because "Lol grinding internet spreadsheets online" etc.
Migui is running for CSM10!
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StupidGenius Charante
Alea Iacta Est Universal Brave Collective
10
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Posted - 2015.02.15 18:16:43 -
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I saw down and spoke with Migui X'hyrrn for the Cap Stable's CSM X interview series, listen here: http://capstable.net/2015/02/15/migui-xhyrrn/ |
Migui X'hyrrn
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.02.15 18:26:43 -
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Thank you guys!
Migui is running for CSM10!
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Pintxito Sasen
Mineria y Manufactura Titan
0
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Posted - 2015.02.15 20:55:57 -
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+1 |
Jasmine Deer
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.02.16 09:23:51 -
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Migui X'hyrrn wrote:
I don't hate miners.
Don't want them out, murdered or anything but I think that mining makes new people stuck themselves and missing a huge part of the game which is sad.
Do you want to mine while you are not there? For hours just because it is a very poor way of making Isk?
Well that sure is a relief.
Knowing you don't want miners "out, murdered or anything". Right now I'm feeling the sort of gratitude that was likely felt by lepers in medieval times on hearing the new local lord wasn't going to burn down their camp and drive them over a cliff and into the sea.
And go right ahead promoting the idea that miners spend all their time magically mining afk for hours on end. The secret must be in one of those guides to making isk in Eve I keep seeing ads for.
No one I know has ever subscribed to Eve because they got all excited about being a miner. But a lot of people do get drawn in because of the opportunity make stuff. Some of those folks like to make stuff in small groups or on their own and derive pleasure from resource gathering themselves and that requires a LOT of time spent mining. But when you've churned out your manufactured item the mining grind seems worth it and whether as a corp, group or individual you get to experience a real sense of achievement.
Oh, and believe it or not a lot of us miners do things other than mine. This is my 10th year in Eve and I'm still happy. So no need feel sad on my behalf
:)
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Migui X'hyrrn
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.02.16 11:05:57 -
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Jasmine Deer wrote:Migui X'hyrrn wrote:
I don't hate miners.
Don't want them out, murdered or anything but I think that mining makes new people stuck themselves and missing a huge part of the game which is sad.
Do you want to mine while you are not there? For hours just because it is a very poor way of making Isk?
Well that sure is a relief. Knowing you don't want miners "out, murdered or anything". Right now I'm feeling the sort of gratitude that was likely felt by lepers in medieval times on hearing the new local lord wasn't going to burn down their camp and drive them over a cliff and into the sea. And go right ahead promoting the idea that miners spend all their time magically mining afk for hours on end. The secret must be in one of those guides to making isk in Eve I keep seeing ads for. No one I know has ever subscribed to Eve because they got all excited about being a miner. But a lot of people do get drawn in because of the opportunity make stuff. Some of those folks like to make stuff in small groups or on their own and derive pleasure from resource gathering themselves and that requires a LOT of time spent mining. But when you've churned out your manufactured item the mining grind seems worth it and whether as a corp, group or individual you get to experience a real sense of achievement. Oh, and believe it or not a lot of us miners do things other than mine. This is my 10th year in Eve and I'm still happy. So no need feel sad on my behalf :)
I don't get why some of you keep trying to move my discourse towards mining haterade or something when I've said that I was a miner myself, I have plenty of them in my alliance and I'm not against that activity.
I respect people that decides the way they want to play a game of meaningful choices. I don't like botters and I don't like to see noobs sticking to mine without knowing anything else just because no one bothered showing them.
It isn't a free choice if you only know a very small piece of the spectrum of choices.
Mining ore is arguably the worst isk source but it's trivial to escalate horizontally. I don't have an issue with low income low attention game play but I would like to see more content like ninja gas mining where you risk a venture to get in 15 min what a mackinaw gets in one hour.
Migui is running for CSM10!
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1968
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Posted - 2015.02.16 12:10:32 -
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I just listened to your Capstable interview and think you would be a good CSM. Only heard good ideas. Not a single thing I disagreed on. Added you to my endorse list .
http://capstable.net/2015/02/15/migui-xhyrrn/
TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - DELETE THE WEAK , ADAPT OR DIE !
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Bombicx
Incobe Solaris Blood Raider's Corsairs
0
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Posted - 2015.02.17 12:50:11 -
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+1 |
Seith Garcim
Comunidad Hispania Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2015.02.18 18:00:52 -
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+1 |
suicide
The Exit Plan Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.02.20 17:49:37 -
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+1 |
Kaos Maximo
Uranus Intruders Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.02.21 02:12:59 -
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I would like to say that i dont know someone else better prepared for this kind of work than migui, its someone who always got your back whenever you need it, knows a lot about the game and has a lot of interaction with the people.
+123393204839
anyone who knows him would say the same |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2015.02.22 10:43:14 -
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Llego tarde, pero tendr+ís 2 votos m+¡os.
I am late, but you'll have 2 votes from me.
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Soldarius
Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2015.02.25 21:01:03 -
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Migui X'hyrrn wrote:As I said before, I signed the occupancy-sov proposal so there is that. I do like the GÇ£ El diginGÇÖs solutionGÇ¥ back in a few months ago.
Look at the names in that post. Such history.
2012 was a great year in nulsec. HBC had 14,000 proud sperging assholes all shooting the crap out of each other the south.
Eve-O isn't just about ships balancing, power projection, economics, and meta-gaming spies. Its also about the ties and friendships we form with other players that transcend alliance or coalition boundaries. I think Migui knows something of that.
The CSM needs a member that knows what its like to go from major powerhouse to utter bottom of the barrel, and the long climb back out of irrelevance. He also has a stable personality and a dislike of drama, unlike certain other candidates. If you are a member of TEST you should be voting for this guy. Even if you're not, you should still vote for him.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Ducem Kalgan
InterSun Freelance SONS of BANE
0
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Posted - 2015.02.26 17:41:53 -
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+1
Tienes mi voto compatriota. |
Abrams13 Zohn
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.03.04 19:54:53 -
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+1 |
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