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Kaelynne Rose
WTB Somalians
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Posted - 2015.01.29 01:56:35 -
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I dont see no thread on Social Corps that are coming soon. Gonnna be like an offical "friends list" where errybody can chat and share catpics and talk about ratting and mining and the weather, but not be in real corp so there is no fear of theft/grief.
Basically like a chat channel but with social media-esqe features.
Youra thoughts on this?
Mine are LMAO at this themepark careabear garbage. Brb lemme tweet that to my fellow Social Corpie Buddies.
Anyone wanna join my socual corp? Gonna be called...EVE IS NOT HARSH, IS IS FOR PANSYS |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
32186
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Posted - 2015.01.29 01:58:30 -
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You lost me at "I don't see no thread...".
what?
and, whatever it is, wouldn't this be a thread about that?
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Orlacc
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Posted - 2015.01.29 02:08:31 -
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Apparently there are talks to create un-war deccable corps in hi sec.
"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
7681
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Posted - 2015.01.29 02:14:02 -
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I get all the social interaction I care for in my one-man corp, thank you very much.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Mag's
the united
18921
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Posted - 2015.01.29 02:16:33 -
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Not much info on it at the moment.
I'm sure some will see this as a slippery slope scenario and they may have a point. Wouldn't it be best to fix the whole war decing mechanic first?
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Shailagh
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.29 02:19:33 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I get all the social interaction I care for in my one-man corp, thank you very much. Mr Epeen
Mister Peen, im trying to save yo sub and toon. Ccp has FACTS that people in npc and 1man corps quit eve sooooo much more than people in big social corps. Also someone could GriefDec you right now! And if you so decide to let someone in eventually... they could steal errything you got and even blow you mister peen!!
Lets just be EveGate/Social Corpie FriendLists to save each other and protect our isk and ships and hearts and minds |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
2616
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Posted - 2015.01.29 02:37:09 -
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I don't really care what they do, but if they give these "social corps" even one practical corporation feature (no NPC tax, POSes, hangars/divisions, etc), I, and about a dozen of my friends, are out of here.
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
4819
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Posted - 2015.01.29 02:38:03 -
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There are two proposals with social groups, which don't majorly overlap.
Corp lite: It's like an npc corp, but with your own name and logo. For those people who would otherwise stay in NPC corps.
Cross Corp Social Groups: For gatherings of players, like the various NPSI communities, where people want a way to organise, without requiring people to leave their current corporation. So you can have fleet adverts, shared fittings, bulletins and so on, restricted to that group. Also, searchable, to improve discoverability which can be a real problem in Eve. (also handy for groupings within a corporation/alliance, like MinLuv)
tbh, I'm in favor of both. How often have you heard of a group of newbies, being 'griefed out of the game', when all they wanted was a name of their own. I'd like Corp lite to be able to be upgraded to full corporations, but not the opposite.
Woo! CSM 9!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
827
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Posted - 2015.01.29 02:41:08 -
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Shailagh wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:I get all the social interaction I care for in my one-man corp, thank you very much. Mr Epeen Mister Peen, im trying to save yo sub and toon. Ccp has FACTS that people in npc and 1man corps quit eve sooooo much more than people in big social corps. Also someone could GriefDec you right now! And if you so decide to let someone in eventually... they could steal errything you got and even blow you mister peen!! Lets just be EveGate/Social Corpie FriendLists to save each other and protect our isk and ships and hearts and minds Huge corps .... they can be good ... just avoid taking on responsibility. Find the guys that make sense and then follow them around.
Mid sized corps / alliances that have multiple gang fights and don't attract anything larger is probably the sweat spot.
CSM Ten movement for change.
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Solops Crendraven
Solops Inc
73
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Posted - 2015.01.29 02:52:21 -
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Kaelynne Rose wrote:I dont see no thread on Social Corps that are coming soon. Gonnna be like an offical "friends list" where errybody can chat and share catpics and talk about ratting and mining and the weather, but not be in real corp so there is no fear of theft/grief.
Basically like a chat channel but with social media-esqe features.
Youra thoughts on this?
Mine are LMAO at this themepark careabear garbage. Brb lemme tweet that to my fellow Social Corpie Buddies.
Anyone wanna join my socual corp? Gonna be called...EVE IS NOT HARSH, IS IS FOR PANSYS sounds great I hope more of these social corps without the Theft and Grief keep growing as long as I dont have to give up my API Im For it.
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Shailagh
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.29 02:52:24 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:There are two proposals with social groups, which don't majorly overlap.
Corp lite: It's like an npc corp, but with your own name and logo. For those people who would otherwise stay in NPC corps.
Cross Corp Social Groups: For gatherings of players, like the various NPSI communities, where people want a way to organise, without requiring people to leave their current corporation. So you can have fleet adverts, shared fittings, bulletins and so on, restricted to that group. Also, searchable, to improve discoverability which can be a real problem in Eve. (also handy for groupings within a corporation/alliance, like MinLuv)
tbh, I'm in favor of both. How often have you heard of a group of newbies, being 'griefed out of the game', when all they wanted was a name of their own. I'd like Corp lite to be able to be upgraded to full corporations, but not the opposite.
So Nullsec aside... what is the remaining point of corporations as we know them? POSes? Theyre getting totally reworked anyways tho and will prob change to let solo/social/lite corps use them. Seriously whats purpose of corps then will be what??? |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
4819
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Posted - 2015.01.29 03:05:09 -
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I'd like to see more purpose for Corps in highsec. So it's more than just POS. In part, that would be a 'solution' to dec-dodging. So, if you leave, you lose more than if you stay.
An example of this is the mining stuff I've put a proposal together for, when PC corps can 'claim' sites, possibly with anchored improvements, for the duration of the site. (Static belts offend me. I want some way to 'Prospect')
Woo! CSM 9!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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DaReaper
Net 7
1752
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Posted - 2015.01.29 03:08:58 -
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social gorups would work for coalitions as well. Back before i formed an alliance i was part of a group in derelik that was trying to rid it of pirates. it would of been a handy tool, esp if other alliances joined in to that specific role,
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
698
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Posted - 2015.01.29 03:11:54 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:There are two proposals with social groups, which don't majorly overlap.
Corp lite: It's like an npc corp, but with your own name and logo. For those people who would otherwise stay in NPC corps.
Cross Corp Social Groups: For gatherings of players, like the various NPSI communities, where people want a way to organise, without requiring people to leave their current corporation. So you can have fleet adverts, shared fittings, bulletins and so on, restricted to that group. Also, searchable, to improve discoverability which can be a real problem in Eve. (also handy for groupings within a corporation/alliance, like MinLuv)
tbh, I'm in favor of both. How often have you heard of a group of newbies, being 'griefed out of the game', when all they wanted was a name of their own. I'd like Corp lite to be able to be upgraded to full corporations, but not the opposite.
I can see both of these being useful. "Corp Lite" cannot ever be given anything like the benefits of "Corp full flavor" though (POS, no tax, etc.). That needs to be written in stone.
Vote Sabriz!
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Shailagh
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.29 03:14:32 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:There are two proposals with social groups, which don't majorly overlap.
Corp lite: It's like an npc corp, but with your own name and logo. For those people who would otherwise stay in NPC corps.
Cross Corp Social Groups: For gatherings of players, like the various NPSI communities, where people want a way to organise, without requiring people to leave their current corporation. So you can have fleet adverts, shared fittings, bulletins and so on, restricted to that group. Also, searchable, to improve discoverability which can be a real problem in Eve. (also handy for groupings within a corporation/alliance, like MinLuv)
tbh, I'm in favor of both. How often have you heard of a group of newbies, being 'griefed out of the game', when all they wanted was a name of their own. I'd like Corp lite to be able to be upgraded to full corporations, but not the opposite. I can see both of these being useful. "Corp Lite" cannot ever be given anything like the benefits of "Corp full flavor" though (POS, no tax, etc.). That needs to be written in stone.
Written in stone..... til a few more months go by after it and enough bears STILL whine and ccp changes it. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
32186
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Posted - 2015.01.29 03:14:36 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote: How often have you heard of a group of newbies, being 'griefed out of the game', when all they wanted was a name of their own. Not at all, so never.
Lots of whinging and whining in the forum of course about how this is such a common thing. But in game it actually happening? Never that I've seen.
If people are griefing (as per the definition used in Eve), then report them and CCP should ban them. As a CSM, if you are aware of players being griefed out of the game (as per the grief play policy of CCP), then I hope you have reported all these instances and CCP has banned the accounts.
But if all this griefing is just really myth, then we don't need more mechanics to avoid conflict.
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Serene Repose
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Posted - 2015.01.29 03:18:46 -
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"proposed" .... BY whom?
I guess things are suggested. That's us. That gets locked or moved. Then things are "proposed." That's the CSM, who are as useful as t!ts on a bull. Things suggested get passing thought and scanty discussion. Things "proposed" are taken as "what players want" since the CSM...sugges...oops.
The CSM does us no favors. Boycott the elections. Speak up. Let's lose the elite bastiches.
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Shailagh
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.29 04:05:29 -
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Serene Repose wrote:"proposed" .... BY whom?
I guess things are suggested. That's us. That gets locked or moved. Then things are "proposed." That's the CSM, who are as useful as t!ts on a bull. Things suggested get passing thought and scanty discussion. Things "proposed" are taken as "what players want" since the CSM...sugges...oops.
The CSM does us no favors. Boycott the elections. Speak up. Let's lose the elite bastiches.
Seiously players been begging for wardec fixes for meaningful corps for POS/ROLES/CORP fixes. Ccp asks for "corp little things to fix" end up getting rekt with ton of SUGGESTED fixes, realise theyd be better/easier/CHEAPER to just make WOW GUILDS/FFB FRIEND LIST and remove wardecs/safaris.
I propose Steve gets kicked outta csm for lack of faith in his judgement . Impeach! Recount! Elect Sabiz! |
Kaelynne Rose
WTB Somalians
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Posted - 2015.01.29 04:27:10 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:I'd like to see more purpose for Corps in highsec. So it's more than just POS. In part, that would be a 'solution' to dec-dodging. So, if you leave, you lose more than if you stay.
An example of this is the mining stuff I've put a proposal together for, when PC corps can 'claim' sites, possibly with anchored improvements, for the duration of the site. (Static belts offend me. I want some way to 'Prospect')
I propose you ask your constitutes you are the "voice" for before goin off bout what YOU want/think. Wtf is ur purpose again? I remember why csms got put into existance, DO U 4GET UR PURPOSE BOy? |
Aleksi Bocharov
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2015.01.29 06:19:22 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Cross Corp Social Groups: For gatherings of players, like the various NPSI communities, where people want a way to organise, without requiring people to leave their current corporation. So you can have fleet adverts, shared fittings, bulletins and so on, restricted to that group. Also, searchable, to improve discoverability which can be a real problem in Eve. (also handy for groupings within a corporation/alliance, like MinLuv)
We already have this. Unless what CCP comes up with is super awesome, nobody will use it, since they're already entrenched in the current systems. |
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Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
2616
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Posted - 2015.01.29 06:26:13 -
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Shailagh wrote:Written in stone..... til a few more months go by after it and enough bears STILL whine and ccp changes it. This is pretty much guaranteed at this point.
After awoxing is gone, the "community" won't be able to take more than a few months of the strain caused by a significantly-increased rise in reliance on war declarations.
In a few months, CCP will start talking about how "wars prevent new players from joining corporations" (and they'd actually be right, to much greater extent than they are about awoxing), and that will be the end of that.
I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
828
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Posted - 2015.01.29 06:26:44 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:I'd like to see more purpose for Corps in highsec. So it's more than just POS. In part, that would be a 'solution' to dec-dodging. So, if you leave, you lose more than if you stay.
An example of this is the mining stuff I've put a proposal together for, when PC corps can 'claim' sites, possibly with anchored improvements, for the duration of the site. (Static belts offend me. I want some way to 'Prospect')
It was known as probe scanning but CCP wanted to make miners easier to find and kill.
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Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
325
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Posted - 2015.01.29 09:42:09 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Shailagh wrote:Written in stone..... til a few more months go by after it and enough bears STILL whine and ccp changes it. This is pretty much guaranteed at this point. After awoxing is gone, the "community" won't be able to take more than a few months of the strain caused by a significantly-increased rise in reliance on war declarations. In a few months, CCP will start talking about how "wars prevent new players from joining corporations" (and they'd actually be right, to much greater extent than they are about awoxing), and that will be the end of that. Agree with this 100%.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
8681
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Posted - 2015.01.29 10:17:28 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote: Corp lite: Cross Corp Social Groups:
How dose one specifically target either the former of those proposed social groups?
Edit: derp, need moar coffee.
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and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Chal0ner
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
118
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Posted - 2015.01.29 10:25:23 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I get all the social interaction I care for in my one-man corp, thank you very much. Mr Epeen
I see contrary evidence.
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Mag's
the united
18926
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Posted - 2015.01.29 10:31:13 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote: Corp lite: Cross Corp Social Groups:
How dose one specifically target either the former of those proposed social groups? Edit: derp, need moar coffee. I'm drinking a Mocca this morning and would also like to know the answer.
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Chal0ner
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
118
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Posted - 2015.01.29 10:32:55 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:There are two proposals with social groups, which don't majorly overlap.
Corp lite: It's like an npc corp, but with your own name and logo. For those people who would otherwise stay in NPC corps.
Cross Corp Social Groups: For gatherings of players, like the various NPSI communities, where people want a way to organise, without requiring people to leave their current corporation. So you can have fleet adverts, shared fittings, bulletins and so on, restricted to that group. Also, searchable, to improve discoverability which can be a real problem in Eve. (also handy for groupings within a corporation/alliance, like MinLuv)
I don't see the point of Corp lite. Seriously, not from this description. Compared to the corps that exist today, what is the difference? And why would anyone want them. If you con't want to use a corp hangar don't use it. Only thing would be it can't be war deced but what the .... how many decs 1-3 man corps ...?
CCSG: this is can se a point for, for coalitions. Why not just fix the chat function to include more rather than building something new?
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Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
263
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Posted - 2015.01.29 10:47:37 -
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I fly NPSI quite a bit. We would like more tools to be about to organize these things. However most of what we want is very short lived temporally. For example fleet standings. We we can set what is blue just for a single fleet for everyone in the fleet. ie Social tools and hence the idea of a social group, but this would have no bearing on anything other than organizing of fleets and events. So taxs, POS etc would have nothing to do with this and would be 100% not affected or changed. Wardecs also would have nothing to do with it. You belong in the same way you belong to different sports clubs. Who you are in eve still has far more to do with your corp.
I also agree that the current war dec system is broken. We just more or less ignore them, they don't really serve the purpose they where added to the game. The idea however is ok, that is to allow pvp conflict in highsec outside ganks.
I don't really know how you would fix wardecs. I can't see a way to implement them without them being abused in some way.
I also don't like the immunity of NPC corps. But of course my freighter toon is in one, it would be silly not to. I have aways thought that perhaps even some sort of kill licence where you pay a fee for a killright on a single person with the bounties would work better at least with respect to bounties.
As for corps. We all want the same things fixed. Roles Roles and after that Roles. If you think this is putting an end to awoxing your very mistaken. Of course if your version of awoxing is a few friendly corp kills. Perhaps, but that was never a real awoxer anyway.
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1945
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Posted - 2015.01.29 12:25:49 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:How often have you heard of a group of newbies, being 'griefed out of the game', when all they wanted was a name of their own. Never, except in the inane ramblings of carebears proposing features that will benefit only vets while shouting "think of the noobs".
Of course, even if it did happen, that's no reason to implement something like this. If the game is too hard for some people the solution is not to make the game easier. That's literally developing for the lowest common denominator, putting EVE on the path to becoming a facebook game.
No sane person could support this.
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Neo Kathura
New Order of Highsec
40
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Posted - 2015.01.29 12:31:25 -
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It sounds like they are planning these to be like mailing list, chat channel, etc all in a group which people can have membership to on top of their corp. If this is the case then I really don't understand some of the hostility to the idea as there's no downside. You aren't mechanically safer by being in a mailing list, and it will hopefully encourage more people to get involved as it's simpler and easier to advertise.
If they are like NPC corps but player run though, then it will be a bit lame. |
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