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Boliknar
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:27:00 -
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Edited by: Boliknar on 29/09/2006 16:29:28 sorry for the double post...
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Boliknar
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: Boliknar on 29/09/2006 16:31:28
Originally by: Boliknar
Originally by: Karlemgne Edited by: Karlemgne on 29/09/2006 15:55:41
Originally by: Boliknar
Originally by: Karlemgne Edited by: Karlemgne on 29/09/2006 15:04:28
Originally by: Boliknar
You can start with the guy who equated all eve pirates to real life racists.
Funny I thought I supossedly equated you with rapists you are the one who tried to equate my corp member with a vile racist. Might wanna keep your story straight. On that issue all I can do is quote the "great" liberal media personality Mike Wallace... "If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...chances are you've got a duck."
Your right. That was a typo. And I see you are still at it, continuing to insinuate that pirates are real life rapists and scum, while ignoring the contents of 3 or four serious posts in response to you. You are probably a guy who doesn't actually read the responses people write to you, correct?
Furthermore, if you have read this thread at all, you'd know I admited that I did not (though there have been times I've seriouslly questioned this) think General Forest is a real life racist. I was simply pointing out, the irony in you calling us (pirates) real life "scum" based on our video game characters, while ignoring the fact that a member of your corp has a character named after the founder of the K K K.
-Karlemgne
I was not the first to equate you with a rapist you did that. I simpily pointed out that alot can be gained as to a persons true character by observing the way they play a game. I never said all pirates are power junkies who get their rocks off smacking those arround who either cannot or are ill equipped to defend themselves. I just said TBF is. Now if you wish to equate them with rapists than that is entirelly up to you.
No, you said what you said of everyone who plays a pirate in eve. You never specified the Black Fleet, and since the Black Fleet are one of the best pirate corps out there, then you must have a low opinion of every other pirate corp. IF YOU READ BACK IN MY POST I STATED "THESE PIRATES" THAT WAS A WORD OF CLARIFICATION DISTINGUISHING BETWEEN TWO GROUPS As to the word "rapist," your right, I was the first to use that word. However, you offered up a description of how eve pirates must be in real life that involved, "getting off" on forcing yourself on those weaker than you, enjoying having "power" over those who can't defend themselves, and "humiliating" people. This is a classic text book definition of the psycological origins of the act of rape. Therefore, those of us who pirate, if what you say is correct, must either be rapists, or capable of rape. Ridiculous... need I say more?
*sigh*
To be honest, your conduct on this forum is insulting, rude, hurtful, and just plain offensive to everyone who plays the game. SO NOW YOU SPEAK FOR EVERYONE WHO PLAYS EVE NOW HUH? Count yourself lucky I don't work for CCP, because I'd ban you for your conduct here. AND YES I DO FEEL THAT A LARGE NUMBER OF THOSE WHO PIRATE ARE IN IT FOR A POWER TRIP AND THE ABILITY TO HUMILIATE THOSE INCAPABLE OR ILL EQUIPED TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. SAD BUT TRUE JUDGING FROM MY INTERACTIONS WITH THESE PIRATES. THE ONLY WAY I CAN MAKE "MY" JUDGEMENTS IS BASED ON "MY" INTERACTIONS AND OBSERVATIONS. AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE TEXTBOOK DEFINITION OF SOMETHING THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULD LOOK IT UP *****IT IS DEFINED BY WEBSTERS AS..."*****is defined as sexual intercourse forced on a person without his or her permission. *****is an act of violence expressed through sex, but is not primarily about sex." To say that called you a rapist is an insult to all who have been truely hurt by these people. But i really should not expect anything different from you should I. I state my observations about how you and your alliance mates play this game and you start whining and crying about how I called you a rapist and should be banned. Typical
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Constantine Arcanum
Gallente IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Boliknar Pretty damn obvious lies
You just used up the day's limit of post edits. I helped - Cortes What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus RAWWWR!11!!1!2 SIG HIJACK!!11!1 I found it first, get orrrfff moiiii laaannnd - Cortes |
Celticjim
Minmatar The Shadow Order The Shadow Ascension
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:34:00 -
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No more posts by any TSO member.
Let this one die. I have yet to receive anything in my Evemail.
Regards CJ
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Karlemgne
Red Navy Faction Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.29 17:18:00 -
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Edited by: Karlemgne on 29/09/2006 17:21:27 Bolkinar,
First, you need to learn how to use an internet forum, type, and follow the general guidlines for writing in English. Following what you say is very difficult.
Second, I don't speak for everyone who plays eve, any more than you do, or a GM does. However, I think if you'd actually pay attention to this thread, you'd find that I am not the only one who found your conduct and statements offensive, nor am I the only one in this thread who says that your actions warrent baning. This group of people includes non-pirates who originally sided with TSOR , then changed their minds, publicly here, based on your behavior (reason enough for TSOR to kick you.)
Again you reafirm that, in your judgement, pirates get off on power trips, humaliating others, and forcing themselves on people. Your tune does not change, and you still have not responded to the number of serious critques of your position that have been posted here.
Lastly, you can use websters to define "rape" all you want. I'm talking about the classic pyscological motivations posited in text books about those who comit the act of rape. There is no doubt for anyone what the actual physical act itself is. Furthermore, on the contrary, YOU by loosely applying these pyscological categories to whole groups of people you simply don't like, because they blew you up in a game, is a far greater diservice to anyone has been a victim of such people with the traits that YOU accuse eve pirate players of having in real life.
-Karlemgne
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Karlemgne
Red Navy Faction Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.29 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Celticjim No more posts by any TSO member.
Let this one die. I have yet to receive anything in my Evemail.
Regards CJ
Forgive me for not think that anything will be done. I've evemailed the CEO of TSOR about offensive and inflamitory behavior on the part of your members before, and I didn't even receive a so much as a "go f yourself" back.
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Karlemgne
Red Navy Faction Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.29 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Celticjim No more posts by any TSO member.
Let this one die. I have yet to receive anything in my Evemail.
Regards CJ
For what its worth, you should have one now.
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Kane Vin
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Posted - 2006.09.29 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Karlemgne
Forgive me for not think that anything will be done. I've evemailed the CEO of TSOR about offensive and inflamitory behavior on the part of your members before, and I didn't even receive a so much as a "go f yourself" back.
Probably because the CEO figures you get enough "go f yourself" eve-mails as it is.
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Karlemgne
Red Navy Faction Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.29 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kane Vin
Originally by: Karlemgne
Forgive me for not think that anything will be done. I've evemailed the CEO of TSOR about offensive and inflamitory behavior on the part of your members before, and I didn't even receive a so much as a "go f yourself" back.
Probably because the CEO figures you get enough "go f yourself" eve-mails as it is.
Actually, not that many. Though I do get death threats from carebears occasionally. And the incident in question involved, for lack of a better phrase, racial slurs. I chose not to petition and go to the CEO instead, and never heard back.
-Karlemgne
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Idaeus
Gallente Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2006.09.29 18:15:00 -
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Pirates are no different then any other 0.4 and below resident that shoots someone who does not belong to their organization. Well, no, strike that. With pirates you might actually have a chance of walking away with your ship or pod. Everyone else won't give you that option.
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Portios Smith
Gallente Sanguine Legion Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:55:00 -
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Hmmm... time to take a trip to the other side of heimatar, I miss the yarring oportunities of that wonderful area
P.S I dueled a couple of Black Fleet members before I joined PC, I won once and lost once, in one of the duels (the one I won) other members of BF where present and it was not at a station, they did not dishonor the duel. I don't trust any one in EVE but if I ever have to I find pirates to be more dependable with their word... most any way.
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:23:00 -
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TSO violated a 1v1, and stand by it.
Can we go back to the killing now? Since the talking has watered out.
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Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Portios Smith Hmmm... time to take a trip to the other side of heimatar, I miss the yarring oportunities of that wonderful area
P.S I dueled a couple of Black Fleet members before I joined PC, I won once and lost once, in one of the duels (the one I won) other members of BF where present and it was not at a station, they did not dishonor the duel. I don't trust any one in EVE but if I ever have to I find pirates to be more dependable with their word... most any way.
Our area is wicked for piracy. There are two fat juicy alliances that live next door to our system and they are total PvP noobs. Gate hugging is their only strategy, get em out in a belt and their toast. BKFT will always welcome additional backup. ===============================================
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Sanka Cofie
Amarr Ministry of Silly Walks
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Karlemgne
Originally by: Sanka Cofie
Come on guys.. don't just come in here and gripe. What about the roll??
[Roll the dice to find your gripe. Match the die roll to the corresponding whine.]
If you roll a One: Karlemgne you're a bad bad man. If you pirate in EVE the terrorists have already won. You represent all that is horrible about humanity. You're a crap human being in real life.
If you roll a Two: Karlemgne you must be 12 and nobody loves you and you're immature and retarded and go to school on the short bus.
If you roll a Three: Karlemgne you must be one of those 30 year old guys who lives with his mother and works a dead end job and never gets laid so you pirate in EVE to make you feel better about your crap life.
If you roll a Four: Shouldn't you be playing CounterStrike you stupid smack-talking shoot-everything idiot. This is an RPG. Play a role. Don't just shoot stuff for no reason. You just shoot stuff because you're stupid and unimaginative. [Disregard if you're actually talking ****.]
If you roll a Five: OMG YOU ****!!! WHY DON'T YOU EVER FIGHT FAIR!!!1 ITS CUZ YOU'RE A COWARD!!! THATS WHY!!! COME BACK IN A SHIP THAT SUCKS AND I'LL OWN YOU!!!
If you roll a Six: Roll again.
More insulting bulls***. And people say pirates are the griefers. I'm not sure why my rather valid points are met with worthless slanders about my life, and my eve playstyle, things which you know nothing about. Is that how you've been trained to argue? Insult your opponent as many ways (an unorignal ways at that) possible?
And for the record, it is almost impossible to "roleplay" in an MMO. This just isn't a condusive format. It can be done, but it is very difficult, since almost everyone is always "out of character." For what its worth, my corp, which I formed, is anti-space capitalist, marxist inspired. So I attempted to play a role above and beyond mere "pirate." I am having trouble though seeing as how just plain YARRR!! pirating is one dimensional, or lacking of worth as a "role" in an MMO. Unless of course, you would assert that RL pirates play no "role" in the real world, and the history of the real world.
Breath in. Breath out. Calm down.
I was making fun of peoples kneejerk responses to being podded, by saying that they shouldn't just spout of the first stupid thing that comes to mind... but roll a die and select it from the fine list I compiled.
I don't mean to tell you how to conduct your affairs... but maybe you should switch to decaf?
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Lacy Renay
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.30 05:58:00 -
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My God! You people spend more time *****in and moanin than playing the game. Sounds to me like this was just a big misunderstanding. They say stuff happens and it often happens in combat. Get over it, put it behind you and get back to playing.
LacyRenay
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rockmeister
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Posted - 2006.09.30 14:35:00 -
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I get that all the time against for example UF in metro challenged them to a 2v3 (our side 2) and they blobbed me ohh well same as warping off from 1v1 which is more common but no reason to btch about it for 5 pages....
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Mark Amarr
Wingrove Weapons Systems
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Posted - 2006.09.30 14:41:00 -
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Edited by: Mark Amarr on 30/09/2006 14:41:47
Originally by: Scoundrelus ....If even odds are that 20 vs 2 you had in Eifer/Gusandall the other day then your perception of "even" is skewed....
20 of them vs 2 of you? That is definitely unfair odds - you should have let them go get some more!
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Sanka Cofie
Amarr Ministry of Silly Walks
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Posted - 2006.09.30 15:40:00 -
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This thread is about 2 pages away from degenerating into a conversation about cheese and photos of kittens.
I like cheese, have I mentioned that? I really really like cheese.
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Karlemgne
Red Navy Faction Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.30 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: rockmeister I get that all the time against for example UF in metro challenged them to a 2v3 (our side 2) and they blobbed me ohh well same as warping off from 1v1 which is more common but no reason to btch about it for 5 pages....
Warping off from a 1v1 is one thing, blobing someone during a 1v1 is another. That isn't here nor there, I spent most of my time in this thread defending eve pirates from Balkinor's slanderous remarks, e.g. all eve pirates are real life scumbags and power trippers.
If this doesn't tick you off, and offend you, more power to you. It offends me,it is a personal attack, imo, and I respond to such acts by defending myself.
-Karlemgne
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Karlemgne
Red Navy Faction Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.30 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Sanka Cofie
Originally by: Karlemgne
Originally by: Sanka Cofie
Come on guys.. don't just come in here and gripe. What about the roll??
[Roll the dice to find your gripe. Match the die roll to the corresponding whine.]
If you roll a One: Karlemgne you're a bad bad man. If you pirate in EVE the terrorists have already won. You represent all that is horrible about humanity. You're a crap human being in real life.
If you roll a Two: Karlemgne you must be 12 and nobody loves you and you're immature and retarded and go to school on the short bus.
If you roll a Three: Karlemgne you must be one of those 30 year old guys who lives with his mother and works a dead end job and never gets laid so you pirate in EVE to make you feel better about your crap life.
If you roll a Four: Shouldn't you be playing CounterStrike you stupid smack-talking shoot-everything idiot. This is an RPG. Play a role. Don't just shoot stuff for no reason. You just shoot stuff because you're stupid and unimaginative. [Disregard if you're actually talking ****.]
If you roll a Five: OMG YOU ****!!! WHY DON'T YOU EVER FIGHT FAIR!!!1 ITS CUZ YOU'RE A COWARD!!! THATS WHY!!! COME BACK IN A SHIP THAT SUCKS AND I'LL OWN YOU!!!
If you roll a Six: Roll again.
More insulting bulls***. And people say pirates are the griefers. I'm not sure why my rather valid points are met with worthless slanders about my life, and my eve playstyle, things which you know nothing about. Is that how you've been trained to argue? Insult your opponent as many ways (an unorignal ways at that) possible?
And for the record, it is almost impossible to "roleplay" in an MMO. This just isn't a condusive format. It can be done, but it is very difficult, since almost everyone is always "out of character." For what its worth, my corp, which I formed, is anti-space capitalist, marxist inspired. So I attempted to play a role above and beyond mere "pirate." I am having trouble though seeing as how just plain YARRR!! pirating is one dimensional, or lacking of worth as a "role" in an MMO. Unless of course, you would assert that RL pirates play no "role" in the real world, and the history of the real world.
Breath in. Breath out. Calm down.
I was making fun of peoples kneejerk responses to being podded, by saying that they shouldn't just spout of the first stupid thing that comes to mind... but roll a die and select it from the fine list I compiled.
I don't mean to tell you how to conduct your affairs... but maybe you should switch to decaf?
Took your post totally out of context then, my apologies. It seemed, at the time of first reading, completely directed at me.
These carebears have my blood up. :)
-Karlemgne
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LoganFire
Amarr Quam Singulari Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.30 15:55:00 -
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Who cares as this happens every day in eve
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Karlemgne
Red Navy Faction Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.30 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: LoganFire Who cares as this happens every day in eve
True enough. However, the spirit of the assault on us eve pirates here was particularly vicious. Its one thing to be called a ****** or a ****head, its another to have someone tell you that in real life you amount to a sociopathic power hungry scumbag who likes to humilate others, while forcing yourself on the weak.
-Karlemgne
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Sadist
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.30 19:06:00 -
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Well here's a valuable lesson for the OP then - dont let your buddies accept duels AT A GODDAMN STATION, for it is stupid and I have said so. тттттттттттт
VIP member of the [23]
Quote: - Numbers alone do not win a battle - No, but I bet they help.
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Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.30 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sadist Well here's a valuable lesson for the OP then - dont let your buddies accept duels AT A GODDAMN STATION, for it is stupid and I have said so.
All hail Sadist? ===============================================
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Lyrecos
Ever Flow Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.01 05:10:00 -
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Scoundrelous
that's a lot of venom to be spitting over a game.
but thx for pointing out that our killboard needed to be secured. It was irritating to have to sift out the 100+ newbie frigate kills you spammed it with - but it only took a couple of quick queries and a little script tweaking to correct. It was sloppy of me to leave the door swinging open like that. Anything that actually involved an EVF member and postdated the boards going online is still there.
for clarity - we do post our losses as well as our kills. It's all useful data. But nothing that predates the first entry.
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.01 06:03:00 -
[146]
Ugh,
a bit childish to spam someones killboard with a bunch of nonsense because you're mad about the breaking of a 1v1. Imo.
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Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.01 06:09:00 -
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Edited by: Scoundrelus on 01/10/2006 06:14:13
Originally by: Lyrecos Scoundrelous
that's a lot of venom to be spitting over a game.
but thx for pointing out that our killboard needed to be secured. It was irritating to have to sift out the 100+ newbie frigate kills you spammed it with - but it only took a couple of quick queries and a little script tweaking to correct. It was sloppy of me to leave the door swinging open like that. Anything that actually involved an EVF member and postdated the boards going online is still there.
for clarity - we do post our losses as well as our kills. It's all useful data. But nothing that predates the first entry.
Actually thats slander, what I "spammed" your killboard with is killmails on EVF I posted that you guys supposedly "forgot" to post. Don't know whether you removed them or not, but they sure showed the truth. I have no idea where I would begin to get 100 "newbie frigate kills" as I rarely get to kill one.
If you wish to slander someone then please at least provide a shred of evidence, and yes you have begun to upload your losses to your killboard, only after you realized I was keeping vigil. I'm so proud of you guys.
EDIT:
Also you don't have the right about "spitting venom" while your on EVF, your corporation I've petitioned numerous times for serious harrasment and insults against my mother despite my infoming them that my mother is unfortunately deceased. ===============================================
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Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.01 06:11:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Ugh,
a bit childish to spam someones killboard with a bunch of nonsense because you're mad about the breaking of a 1v1. Imo.
Your commentary is inaccurate. EVF have nothing to do with the 1 vs 1. All EVF is attempting to do now is derail the thread since they are allied with TSOR. Ignore them. ===============================================
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Sanka Cofie
Amarr Ministry of Silly Walks
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Posted - 2006.10.01 10:56:00 -
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Edited by: Sanka Cofie on 01/10/2006 10:56:17 You mean this thread was ever on rails to begin with?
Its a thread about not trusting someone in a game where you can't trust anyone.
I appreciate the info.. because now I can make sure if i'm ever invited to 1 v 1 TSOR that there are 4 or 5 of us involved.
Have some kittens.
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Rina Shanu
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2006.10.01 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Disgusting.
Why is it that self-proclaimed "anti-pirates" dishonor duels more than pirates do?
Because they cannot stand to lose or afford to lose too often. The number of real anti pirates, the ones taht hunt pirates for the quality of PvP involved, is rather small and most "anti-pirates" are just carebears trying to put "numbers" on the table instead of skill (player skill).
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