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Gorongo Frostfyr
Shimohi Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2015.01.30 04:22:55 -
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Did CCP ever thought of adding wear of any kind to this game? Could help to fight inflation. Could also reduce oversized capital fleets of some alliances. In real life no country can maintain billions of ships or tanks without ending up like North Korea.. |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
2642
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Posted - 2015.01.30 04:24:14 -
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I've played games that had this mechanic, and all I can say about it is that it becomes an annoyance more than anything else for pretty much every single player.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2015.01.30 04:29:24 -
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I seem to recall it was considered at one time and then rejected for whatever reason. Coding difficulty I think.
Or it's just my confusion between what the forum warriors were saying and not CCP in some threadnaught long ago.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2015.01.30 04:29:56 -
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*Thinks about glorious mission runner tears when the durability runs out on his faction fit marauder mid mission.*
*Thinks about even more glorious tears when freighter breaks down with all of people's assets inside.*
*Thinks about miners tears when their barge implodes with no outside interference.*
This is a great idea.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
274
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Posted - 2015.01.30 04:54:20 -
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You've forgotten an "s" at the end of your thread title.
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Chopper Rollins
Lantean Empire
1030
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Posted - 2015.01.30 05:26:08 -
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Gorongo Frostfyr wrote:... like North Korea..
...OR there could be introduced into the game a way to embargo/sanction an alliance into the ground. Perhaps once you have alliance wide average standings of 8.0 with an empire, you could impose restrictions on market transactions for your competitors. Naturally everyone would try to go for Caldari so Jita would be ruined for their reds, but it would also make it crucial that null alliance members run missions in empire space. Man that would be crazy.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6144
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Posted - 2015.01.30 05:45:17 -
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The nature of tritanium and the environment it operates in would say otherwise.
It would be nice though if paint jobs started to show their wear. Imagine mining ships actually looking like something that exist in an environment of abrasive objects.
Small matters.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
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Posted - 2015.01.30 05:54:34 -
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Isn't the whole concept redundant anyway because of nanites and ****?
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Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.30 06:33:15 -
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Why don't we add different currencies while we are at it? |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
7212
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Posted - 2015.01.30 06:41:15 -
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Old idea that pops up from time to time.
It generally isn't received well because such a concept penalizes those of us who who...
- prepare ahead of time (PvPers and corp managers set up numerous pre-fit ships for "grab and go" situations). - actually survive the rigors/risks of space.
Plus...
- it is just annoying as hell to have to constantly repair every time you do anything. - it makes deep space operations (wormhole living, endless scouting tasks, Black-Ops, nomadic lifestyle) extremely hard, if not impossible. - younger, poorer players would be more adversely affected by this than older, richer players.
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
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Sir Substance
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
666
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Posted - 2015.01.30 07:03:54 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Isn't the whole concept redundant anyway because of nanites and ****?
Considering most citizens of new eden could comfortably retire on 250,000isk, I think it's safe to assume that cluster-wide maintenance is factored into the 900,000,000isk/month pilot license cost.
Presumably CONCORD wants all ships in good working order.
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Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
726
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Posted - 2015.01.30 07:04:47 -
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In a world you don't care that you ship explodes, wear/tear doesn't exist since you just replace it. You also have ammo costs, drone replacements, and time itself to fix "wear" when a cycle on a repper for what ever layer of buffer you are replacing, skill points itself is a type of wear out on patience.....no we don't need things to spontaneously break, just need players to get bigger balls and stop fearing CONCORD if they are living in highsec cause the only they can afford to replace is a destroyer in a wolf pack to a shitfit freighter with 3x cargo expander (CCP needs to remove those lows, reduce cargo capacity to 250k m3, increase hull hitpoints and force freighter pilots to make more trips)...maybe that one player would be willing to lose a cruiser or BC when it becomes harder to kill cattle in a fleet gank for lesser rewards. |
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.01.30 09:14:53 -
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Gorongo Frostfyr wrote:Did CCP ever thought of adding wear of any kind to this game? As a matter of fact, they are thinking about it and even working on it right now:
CSM winter minutes day 4, page 5, paragraph 4 wrote:CCP BasementBen explained that we are trying to bring back details on ships that are lost between changing graphics levels that have happened since the switch to PBR. PBR is very beautiful but the way the layers work, when graphics are dropped to medium the ships are not displaying true to their core look and this needs to be corrected. This includes adding new ambient occlusion and the ability to make ships look worn and dirty, which could become part of gameplay depending on how old your ship is to show age and wear and tear after fights and usage. A big part of the backend work on this will be going on towards a May timeframe. The CSM winter minutes day 4 can be found here.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6145
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Posted - 2015.01.30 09:46:46 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:Gorongo Frostfyr wrote:Did CCP ever thought of adding wear of any kind to this game? As a matter of fact, they are thinking about it and even working on it right now: CSM winter minutes day 4, page 5, paragraph 4 wrote:CCP BasementBen explained that we are trying to bring back details on ships that are lost between changing graphics levels that have happened since the switch to PBR. PBR is very beautiful but the way the layers work, when graphics are dropped to medium the ships are not displaying true to their core look and this needs to be corrected. This includes adding new ambient occlusion and the ability to make ships look worn and dirty, which could become part of gameplay depending on how old your ship is to show age and wear and tear after fights and usage. A big part of the backend work on this will be going on towards a May timeframe. The CSM winter minutes day 4 can be found here.
I've had ships in use for YEARS. That would have been great.
Still .... uh... wonder if we'll get a paint barn or something. I don't want to be rolling in a hoopty. Even the new Phoon is still dragging a muffler.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
121
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Posted - 2015.01.30 10:27:44 -
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Id rather like to see ships have history, purchase date, kills with that ship etc etc, would make ships more appealing to keep hold of, everyone loves stats ;)
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Serene Repose
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Posted - 2015.01.30 12:03:13 -
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and...what if we had to buy fuel?
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5006
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Posted - 2015.01.30 12:36:49 -
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Visual wear would be pretty cool, but wear as a cost of running a ship is unlikely to come in. CCP have made it clear they don't like designs where players have only 1 option, like clones, the only good option was to upgrade your clone. With wear it would be the same, it would just be something you do, not something you choose to do.
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Helios Panala
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Posted - 2015.01.30 13:06:24 -
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Maintenance costs only make any sense for supers really.
I assume everything else gets routine maintenance during those long periods of time when it's docked up and switched off. Supers cant dock and at a guess are always on in some capacity. I guess as a result they would require constant checks and fixes that other smaller ships wouldn't.
Anyway, it would be annoying and not make much sense for most ships. Even for supers it would probably still be pointless, I guess it might have some effect on super proliferation, maybe. |
Celise Katelo
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.30 14:35:50 -
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Serene Repose wrote:and...what if we had to buy fuel?
I love this idea
We could even have Gas stations A dedicated ship for refuel while in battle The more fuel you carry the bigger the explosion, thus anyone in the area will suffer Dedicated fuel ships, that work like a mini Gas stations A new type of ship that could collect [insert fuel mats] like a miner ship
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flaming phantom
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
86
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Posted - 2015.01.30 15:16:55 -
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Celise Katelo wrote:Serene Repose wrote:and...what if we had to buy fuel? I love this idea We could even have Gas stations A dedicated ship for refuel while in battle The more fuel you carry the bigger the explosion, thus anyone in the area will suffer Dedicated fuel ships, that work like a mini Gas stations A new type of ship that could collect [insert fuel mats] like a miner ship
we already need fuel for capital ships to move around and it sucks. At least to jump to cynos, but that would be so annoying to have to keep oyur ship fueled.
I like to think that our ships have a bunch of solar panels on them and we don't need another energy source or something like that
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Scifi
High Life Industries The Black Sails
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Posted - 2015.02.01 02:46:01 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I've had ships in use for YEARS. That would have been great.
Agreed I've had some haulers long enough that they still have LARGE rigs fit in them. |
Liafcipe9000
United Amarrian Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.01 08:56:43 -
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Kiandoshia wrote:Why don't we add different currencies while we are at it? too late
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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
676
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Posted - 2015.02.01 09:27:22 -
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Ship gets to 40% durability, repackage it, unpack it.
If ships hold their life shelf in the repackaged state you now have 1-100% market conditions for each ship. Not to mention stacking issues.
We need more sinks. Maybe a corporate bonus that requires the corp to add hundreds or thousands of any certain item, along the lines of 10.00 standing in order to unlock the bonus. A corporation with 10.00 in Ishtar for example has 1.1 to role bonuses or 10.00 in T2 Medium Neutron has 10% more dps for its members. Have bonus potential for every item not a seed so there is an immediate and final removal system for all things EVE. |
Varathius
Blood Fountain Massacre LOADED-DICE
152
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Posted - 2015.02.01 15:40:59 -
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Gorongo Frostfyr wrote:Did CCP ever thought of adding wear of any kind to this game? Could help to fight inflation. Could also reduce oversized capital fleets of some alliances. In real life no country can maintain billions of ships or tanks without ending up like North Korea..
Barnacles need to be added.
Since the ships here (mechanics) behave as they would be under water, then we should have barnacles stuck on their hulls.
http://theterramarproject.org/thedailycatch/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ship-barnacles-globalmariner.jpg |
Michael Ruckert
Hohere Kavallerie-Kommando
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Posted - 2015.02.01 18:07:42 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:*Thinks about glorious mission runner tears when the durability runs out on his faction fit marauder mid mission.*
*Thinks about even more glorious tears when freighter breaks down with all of people's assets inside.*
*Thinks about miners tears when their barge implodes with no outside interference.*
This is a great idea.
Let me complete that for you.
*Thinks about CODE ships breaking apart as they warp in for ganks.
This is a great idea.
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Hal Morsh
Icendus Corux Warp to Cyno.
248
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Posted - 2015.02.02 02:10:17 -
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flaming phantom wrote:Celise Katelo wrote:Serene Repose wrote:and...what if we had to buy fuel? I love this idea We could even have Gas stations A dedicated ship for refuel while in battle The more fuel you carry the bigger the explosion, thus anyone in the area will suffer Dedicated fuel ships, that work like a mini Gas stations A new type of ship that could collect [insert fuel mats] like a miner ship we already need fuel for capital ships to move around and it sucks. At least to jump to cynos, but that would be so annoying to have to keep oyur ship fueled. I like to think that our ships have a bunch of solar panels on them and we don't need another energy source or something like that
Minmatar use fusion reactors for your information, those flaps are actually shield emitters. I'd say lern yur eve, but someone mentioning a phoon dragging a muffler seems accurate in my mind.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
851
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Posted - 2015.02.02 04:12:04 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:I've played games that had this mechanic, and all I can say about it is that it becomes an annoyance more than anything else for pretty much every single player. This.
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Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2015.02.02 04:35:44 -
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Michael Ruckert wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:*Thinks about glorious mission runner tears when the durability runs out on his faction fit marauder mid mission.*
*Thinks about even more glorious tears when freighter breaks down with all of people's assets inside.*
*Thinks about miners tears when their barge implodes with no outside interference.*
This is a great idea.
Let me complete that for you. *Thinks about CODE ships breaking apart as they warp in for ganks. This is a great idea.
whut? think about that, just for a second. Gank Catalysts don't have a particularly long life expectancy if they're used correctly.
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