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Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
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Posted - 2015.01.31 00:27:44 -
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--Villore Accords Military Headquarters --Placid Region --Amevync Constellation | Vlilirier Solar System --Vlilirier VII - Roden Shipyards Factory
A small podium with the Villore Accords logo emblazoned at its front stands in a hangar bay. In the background a looms the hull of a Federation Navy Comet. Rinai Vero approaches the podium wearing the white dress uniform of a Luminaire General, though she fidgets with its collar as if it has rarely been worn. A few decorations are displayed, most recognizably the Wings of Valor.
My fellow Citizens, thank you for your attention. I'll be brief.
Members of the Villore Accords would like to extend our heartfelt congratulations to President Jacus Roden for his victory in seeking reelection. Furthermore, we would like to also thank all of the other candidates for their participation, and the voters of every district of the Federal Union for demonstrating the strength and vibrancy of our democratic way of life.
Particularly, we would like to thank Mayor Shaileen Ramnev. Your campaign, and indeed your life itself, has been an inspiration to so many within our great Federation. Your grit and determination, and your grace, show us the best example.
With the election behind us, we in the Villore Accords call for unity as we move forward. We fully support President Roden in his efforts to secure our borders and strengthen our defenses against any continued aggression by the Caldari State. Additionally, we call upon the Roden Administration to take an active role in advancing the Peace Process as advocated by Mayor Ramnev.
In light of the recent attack on Eliaron Idama and his supporters, we offer our ardent support for a full investigation. Those responsible are terrorists who's aim is to undermine the very fabric of our society, and they must be swiftly brought to justice.
Finally, our condolences to the loved ones of those lost. We honor their memory as we do all who have fallen for the ideals that make the Gallente Federation great. Let us always stand together in Liberty, Equality, and Brotherhood. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1720
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Posted - 2015.01.31 05:59:21 -
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Congratulations to Jacus Roden for being re-elected for the second term as President of the Gallente Federation.
Wishing him a better term than the first and wisdom when making tough decisions.
Akrasjel Lanate
General Director(CEO) of Naquatech Conglomerate
Executor of Naquatech Syndicate
Citizen of Solitude
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1598
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Posted - 2015.01.31 06:55:40 -
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So, Gallentean subhumans decided to elect this monster, who killed so many peoples on Caldari Prime and occupied half of our homeworld again?
Guess they are hard to learn. Now I am more firm in my resolution, that for gallenteans to understand their mistake their homeworld must be bombarded from the orbit and occupied for the next 200 years. Maybe that will start beating some sense into their stupid heads. |
Aelisha
Achura-Waschi Exchange Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
473
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Posted - 2015.01.31 10:28:09 -
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Congratulations to President Roden. I may not support him, but the people have spoken, and I am sure he will continue to carry the Federations interests forwards as he has done in previous years.
I hope that Shaileen Ramnev continues to provide her unique insight and vigour in the political scene, and look forwards to the next election.
CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange
Intaki Reborn
Independent Capsuleer
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Caroline Grace
Grace Stellar Conveyance Inc.
606
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Posted - 2015.01.31 10:50:38 -
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Congratulations, Mr. President! |
Marnian Veroe
National Republican Party
44
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Posted - 2015.01.31 17:49:44 -
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I for one do not congratulate President Roden for his victory, for that President Roden has been elected through highly irregular means for his first Mandate. President Roden claims to account for the values of democracy, and yet he actually violated the same democratic principles the first time he got 'elected'.
I will not stand as a federal citizen behind someone who is clearly ruled by conflicts of interests and bends federal policies as well as the very fate of our citizens, especially those from the federal rimworlds, to follow his own self serving interests. Myself being a loyal politician believing in the values of our beloved Federation, I shall respect the results and the laws that binds us together, but will certainly not acclaim the follow-ups of this masquerade.
I support mayor Shaileen Remnev struggles and hope to see her begin to care for the exact same disasters that struck all those other federal forgotten worlds, and not just her own special snowflake. I also heartfully support Mr Eliaron Idama in his unremitting fight against our criminal underworld, and wish his partner Ms. Shiikeru a quick recovery.
Finally, I still stand firmly behind Senator Celes Aguard, who kept being faithful all through her campaign, kept the flag of the rimworlds alive and still fights to make their plight recognized.
M. Veroe, Mantenault National Party. |
Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
378
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Posted - 2015.01.31 18:02:36 -
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I suppose it is refreshing to hear the UltraNationalist line straight from the horse's mouth, as it were. |
Marnian Veroe
National Republican Party
44
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Posted - 2015.01.31 19:48:31 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:I suppose it is refreshing to hear the UltraNationalist line straight from the horse's mouth, as it were.
I suppose it is refreshing to hear ad-personam on the IGS for a change.
Anything to add, like addressing the actual point ? |
Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
378
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Posted - 2015.01.31 21:42:56 -
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You seem to have interpreted my statement as a personal attack. I don't see how, since I simply recognized that you are an UltraNationalist... a conclusion I based solely on your own statements in the past where you have described yourself as such. Was I mistaken?
My point was that we so often hear the U-Nat label thrown at people who don't wear the mantle openly as you do.
As for addressing the content of what you had to say, I think my original remarks shall suffice to clearly express my position. You disagree, which is certainly your right. |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1304
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Posted - 2015.01.31 21:56:22 -
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A random note, I like how both strong candidates held their major speech/rally in Arcurio, on Caldari Prime, think it's the first time Presidential candidates hold major campaigns on State (Ishukone) territory.
Perhaps it is a view of a future that could be, when the State & Gallente would be able to accept both as they are, but alas, that is merely my hope for the near-unattainable speaking, as I do understand that the hostilities & actions committed by both sides make such future very unlikely. But knowing the current state of Caldari Prime, perhaps not an impossible task... One can only keep hoping.
Gallente President Jacus Roden is elected for a second term
Gallente Presidential elections have begun!(Updated)
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Marnian Veroe
National Republican Party
44
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Posted - 2015.02.01 02:40:35 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:You seem to have interpreted my statement as a personal attack. I don't see how, since I simply recognized that you are an UltraNationalist... a conclusion I based solely on your own statements in the past where you have described yourself as such. Was I mistaken?
My point was that we so often hear the U-Nat label thrown at people who don't wear the mantle openly as you do.
As for addressing the content of what you had to say, I think my original remarks shall suffice to clearly express my position. You disagree, which is certainly your right.
You are rather quick to label people as what most people consider as despicable individuals, aren't you ? I wonder where I stated to be such an individual myself ? |
Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
382
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Posted - 2015.02.01 05:41:36 -
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From one of the first posts that comes up in your GalNet history...
Marnian Veroe wrote:There lies my issue with strawmen. Continue to call us U-Nats as much as you want, but that will not make it true.
U-Nats want to see the Caldari subdued, we do not.
U-Nats want like to enforce Gallentia over all else, we do not.
U-Nats are gallente supremacists, we are not.
U-Nats are a shadow of the past on the brink of extinction, we are not. |
Marnian Veroe
National Republican Party
44
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Posted - 2015.02.01 09:24:13 -
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And so, that makes me stating I am a U-Nat supporter or something ? |
Eojek
Starlight Moly
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Posted - 2015.02.01 17:08:53 -
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Did anyone actually vote for him? |
Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
383
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Posted - 2015.02.01 17:46:15 -
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Marnian Veroe wrote:And so, that makes me stating I am a U-Nat supporter or something ?
Actually, you're right it doesn't. I read through it quickly and form some reason was interpreting it as "These are all straw men about U-Nats that do not accurately represent us." Now that I've read it more carefully I see what your actual intent was.
My apologies, honest misunderstanding, totally my fault. |
Aelisha
Achura-Waschi Exchange Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
475
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Posted - 2015.02.01 18:58:40 -
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Eojek wrote:Did anyone actually vote for him?
Over 54% of the voting public did, apparently. If you mean capsuleers, even if all eligible pilots voted in opposition, this would represent the tiniest fraction of a percent of the electorate, with each capsuleer vote being pitted against millions, if not billions of baseliner votes.
So people obviously voted for Roden, but for once the voices that counted most were those who will actually be at the mercy of our government, justice system and laws, instead of we capsuleers.
I find this comforting. Even in a cluster of despotism, oppression and deprivation, not least of all perpetuated by our kind, there exists a nation of the free, where those at the mercy of their higher authorities may play some role in their selection.
Say what you will about the President, he was voted in by the people most affected by that choice, and this is exactly the way it should be.
CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange
Intaki Reborn
Independent Capsuleer
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James Syagrius
Reclamation Technologies
950
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Posted - 2015.02.01 19:28:16 -
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I congratulate President Roden on his re-election.
It is a strange irony of history that within our Federal Union the right man often arises to fit the necessities of his time.
It is my firm conviction that the steady and measured tenor of his administration have brought the Federation closer to an honorable and mutually respectful peace.
GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
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Julianus Soter
Moira. Villore Accords
245
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Posted - 2015.02.01 23:23:44 -
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President Roden's reelection, albiet under the flawed Foiritain amendment, provides some stability to these troubled times.
In light of the continuing Caldari aggression, and escalating activity from the Sleepers in normal space, I recommend that Mister Roden commit to protecting the safety and integrity of interstellar travel throughout the Federation. The Caldari must be rebuffed; and the Sleepers investigated. CONCORD has lost its way and can no longer be trusted to ensure the safety and security of interstellar trade, the Federation itself must take up its rightful place to resolving these matters.
Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter
https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/
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KaRa DaVuT
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
64
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Posted - 2015.02.02 10:20:24 -
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Marnian Veroe wrote:I for one do not congratulate President Roden for his victory, for that President Roden has been elected through highly irregular means for his first Mandate. President Roden claims to account for the values of democracy, and yet he actually violated the same democratic principles the first time he got 'elected'.
I will not stand as a federal citizen behind someone who is clearly ruled by conflicts of interests and bends federal policies as well as the very fate of our citizens, especially those from the federal rimworlds, to follow his own self serving interests. Myself being a loyal politician believing in the values of our beloved Federation, I shall respect the results and the laws that binds us together, but will certainly not acclaim the follow-ups of this masquerade.
I support mayor Shaileen Remnev struggles and hope to see her begin to care for the exact same disasters that struck all those other federal forgotten worlds, and not just her own special snowflake. I also heartfully support Mr Eliaron Idama in his unremitting fight against our criminal underworld, and wish his partner Ms. Shiikeru a quick recovery.
Finally, I still stand firmly behind Senator Celes Aguard, who kept being faithful all through her campaign, kept the flag of the rimworlds alive and still fights to make their plight recognized.
M. Veroe, Mantenault National Party.
I second this.
And for Rinai Vero, well honestly you are no different than him...
Guess what, you and your kind are slackers who always support the conflic, because you gain from the conflic, you do not care the civillian casualities..
Mayor Shaileen Remnev should be the victor of this election. I still thank her for trying.
At least we now know the real faces of people.
Holiness is in right action and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. What God desires is in your heart and on your mind... And what you decide to do every day, makes you - not your race - a good man - or not.
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
4117
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Posted - 2015.02.02 14:47:24 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:From one of the first posts that comes up in your GalNet history... Marnian Veroe wrote:There lies my issue with strawmen. Continue to call us U-Nats as much as you want, but that will not make it true.
U-Nats want to see the Caldari subdued, we do not.
U-Nats want like to enforce Gallentia over all else, we do not.
U-Nats are gallente supremacists, we are not.
U-Nats are a shadow of the past on the brink of extinction, we are not.
Marnian Veroe wrote:And so, that makes me stating I am a U-Nat supporter or something ?
The use of the word "we" does typically indicate that the speaker is claiming membership in the group being discussed...
An in-character blog and a video:
http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
388
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Posted - 2015.02.02 16:44:44 -
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Stitcher wrote:
The use of the word "we" does typically indicate that the speaker is claiming membership in the group being discussed...
I'm glad I'm not the only one who took that meaning. Its the phrasing in the earlier sentence that threw me. I think I read something like "Continue to call us U-Nats what you want, but that will not make it true."
Which means the exact opposite of "Continue to call us U-Nats as much as you want, but that will not make it true."
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
4118
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Posted - 2015.02.02 16:55:26 -
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One of those translation and reading problems. I confess, on first skim I got the meaning backwards as well.
They happen.
An in-character blog and a video:
http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
388
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Posted - 2015.02.02 17:03:12 -
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KaRa DaVuT wrote:And for Rinai Vero, well honestly you are no different than him...
Guess what, you and your kind are slackers who always support the conflic, because you gain from the conflic, you do not care the civillian casualities..
Mayor Shaileen Remnev should be the victor of this election. I still thank her for trying.
At least we now know the real faces of people.
Actually, I probably have more in common personally with Mayor Remnev than any political candidate I've ever encountered. That's including my mother, when she was making an attempt at a political career. Honestly, its uncanny.
I believe you make a number of assumptions about my motivations and character that have no basis in fact or history. I'll leave it to you to either find out more about me, or not. Makes little difference.
My work with the Gallente Militia, my work security contracting for Roden Shipyards, and anything else I do as a Capsuleer comes at the cost of many lives. That is who we are, we Empyreans. All I can hope is that what I do saves more lives in the end. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
4465
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Posted - 2015.02.02 18:19:47 -
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I would like to congratulate the Federation on a very pragmatic and cautious choice for their new President, a choice sacrificing political ideals for realpolitik.
Often the Federation has been accused of putting pie in the sky dreams over the cold, harsh, light of day. I see you have not done so this time. President Roden's vision of increased powers to the security services and the temporary suspension of certain rights and prerogatives should ensure that the Black Eagles and other paramilitary quasi-legal enforcement divisions can pursue disloyalty freely, wherever it lies, even in the hearts and minds of your citizens.
Roden will, I'm sure, ensure that his shipyards continue to mass-produce potent weapons of war, just as his foreign policy and internal policy ensure that your government will never be short of targets to turn them on - enemies, allies and, failing all else, your own people.
Dark humour aside, we have perhaps grown used to counting on the Federation for far-reaching and ambitious programs of visionary politics. Love or hate the Gallente, one cannot argue that it has traditionally been the empire where bright, shining towers of hopes and dreams have been attempted. No more.
Finally I see a Federation focused on the bottom line, on security and safety and on not promising too much. It's depressing.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
477
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Posted - 2015.02.03 04:46:55 -
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The Federation is more fluid then a lot of people give it credit for. Roden is not their first flirtation with nationalist conservatism, nor are the Black Eagles their first fliration with quasi-totalitarian law enforcement - In both cases, the honor goes to the U-Nats, though there are many others that have come close. It'll likely default back in the other direction sooner or later. It's a quick ship to turn, far quicker then any other of it's size in the cluster. Though it's debateable if that is a good thing.
It is also good to remember that if Roden is a ripple in the Federal pond, Tibus Heth was the pebble. He is a natural result of the States invasion, it's "fault", to whatever point you can assign it to something as abstract and tremendous in scale as interstellar politics. |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
317
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Posted - 2015.02.03 04:51:13 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:I would like to congratulate the Federation on a very pragmatic and cautious choice for their new President, a choice sacrificing political ideals for realpolitik.
Often the Federation has been accused of putting pie in the sky dreams over the cold, harsh, light of day. I see you have not done so this time. President Roden's vision of increased powers to the security services and the temporary suspension of certain rights and prerogatives should ensure that the Black Eagles and other paramilitary quasi-legal enforcement divisions can pursue disloyalty freely, wherever it lies, even in the hearts and minds of your citizens.
Roden will, I'm sure, ensure that his shipyards continue to mass-produce potent weapons of war, just as his foreign policy and internal policy ensure that your government will never be short of targets to turn them on - enemies, allies and, failing all else, your own people.
Dark humour aside, we have perhaps grown used to counting on the Federation for far-reaching and ambitious programs of visionary politics. Love or hate the Gallente, one cannot argue that it has traditionally been the empire where bright, shining towers of hopes and dreams have been attempted. No more.
Finally I see a Federation focused on the bottom line, on security and safety and on not promising too much. It's depressing.
Hopes and dreams never put bread and coffee on the table nor keep the interlopers out of the door. Now that the interlopers really ARE at the door, at least by the Fed POV, all those hopes and dreams had to be dumped in favour of more boarding materials, barricades and lots of heavy bludgeoning objects. Support will be given to those who offer more of each.
Also realpolitik best politik.
- Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1603
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Posted - 2015.02.03 04:56:10 -
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Gwen Ikiryo wrote:The Federation is more fluid then a lot of people give it credit for. Roden is not their first flirtation with nationalist conservatism, nor are the Black Eagles their first fliration with quasi-totalitarian law enforcement - In both cases, the honor goes to the U-Nats, though there are many others that have come close. It'll likely default back in the other direction sooner or later. It's a quick ship to turn, far quicker then any other of it's size in the cluster. Though it's debateable if that is a good thing.
It is also good to remember that if Roden is a ripple in the Federal pond, Tibus Heth was the pebble. He is a natural result of the States invasion, it's "fault", to whatever point you can assign it to something as abstract and tremendous in scale as interstellar politics. That's the only imperfection of Tibus Heth: he was just the pebble. He got us our homeworld, but he believed words of gallenteans, that they will give our home back. Word of gallentean lasted only five years.
We don't need pebbles anymore. We need whole BOMB to throw into their pond, bomb so powerful so it not just cause ripples, but dry this damn filthy water out. Bomb so powerful, that will teach them respect. So powerful, it will not just make them sign peace, but will FORCE them to follow peace, so they won't ever dare to raise weapons on us.
FOR THE STATE! |
Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
394
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Posted - 2015.02.03 06:13:52 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote: President Roden's vision of increased powers to the security services and the temporary suspension of certain rights and prerogatives should ensure that the Black Eagles and other paramilitary quasi-legal enforcement divisions can pursue disloyalty freely, wherever it lies, even in the hearts and minds of your citizens.
Laying it on a bit thick there, aren't we? "Dark humor" though it may be, lets be clear that "increased powers to the security services" ect was the status quo when Roden took office. The Black Eagles weren't his vision, but they are the reality he finds himself with.
Honestly, has the State ever suffered a betrayal by one of its own on the scale of Anvent Eturrer? Of Alexander Noir? Can we help but to be traumatized?
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Finally I see a Federation focused on the bottom line, on security and safety and on not promising too much. It's depressing.
In this, I see so much irony. It seems as if the more like the Caldari we become, the more the Caldari dislike what they see reflected. Jacus Roden is the closest thing to a Caldari President our Federation has ever had, and so many in the State act as if he is a storybook monster.
I can't blame my fellow Gallenta for being disturbed by President Roden, as much as I support his Administration. It is true that these are hard times, and that he is a hard leader. I find it much harder to swallow Caldari intransigence and hostility towards him. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
4468
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Posted - 2015.02.03 06:27:57 -
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If it's ironic to you, imagine how ironic it is for me - but I fear we lost the idealistic neighbour who did awful things out of the best of intentions and wound up with a cold-eyed neighbour who does awful things out of expediency. And no, I'm not laying it on too thick. I've had the Black Eagles pointed at me and, like many Caldari who've done time in Black Rise, I've seen the labour camps. The execution trenches. The mass graves.
But you're right, perhaps we see the part of ourselves we don't like so well when we look at Jacus Roden. What should be keeping you up at night is not the irony of the Caldari not enjoying the view in the mirror, but how Roden makes you into a caricature of us in the name of fighting us.
And you're quite happy to go along with it.
"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions."
"Only a killer would know that..."
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Lyn Farel
Kitzless
887
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Posted - 2015.02.03 20:26:23 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:[quote=Pieter Tuulinen] Honestly, has the State ever suffered a betrayal by one of its own on the scale of Anvent Eturrer? Of Alexander Noir? Can we help but to be traumatized?
I may be wrong but I am pretty sure that the Federation are not the only one 'traumatized'. |
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