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Sivona
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:37:00 -
[361]
Originally by: CYVOK Edited by: CYVOK on 28/09/2006 20:16:48
Originally by: Nez Perces
Now when are we gonna see an ASCN official come onto these forums and pledge to the EVE community that you will not be using your considerable resources to purposefully node crash the servers, should things not go your way on the battlefield?
The first time BoB & Friends jump into a system and start pounting on a station and the ASCN gang trying to get in to blow them up gets "You are #1827 in que to enter this system" or "Traffic control for this gate is currently offline" all bets are off. Whats the use of a war if you cannot even defend your space because of a stupid game mechanic and crappy hardware.
If I am given the choice of watching a station get obliterated from another system because CCP wont let me in to defend it or crashing the node by logging in 2000 ASCN members next store... Well, which woudl you choose?
-CYVOK-
So can you please clarrify this because it seems somewhat hypocritical of you to say this.
If RAT do it, it is an exploit, they should all be banned and hundreds of ascn players cancelled subscription (with the intention of resubscribing) to try and force developers to ban RAT members using these tactics.
However if you do it is a legitimate defence of your station?
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Marogian
the Organ Grinder and Company Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:37:00 -
[362]
I've lost some of my respect for BoB today. All that Cyvok has said is that IF the game stops functioning as it should and it stops us being able to get a fight we will do EVERYTHING in our power to have a fight to defned our space. He didn't say he'd exploit to save stations, he didn't say he'd stop you being able to take the stations, he said he'd do anything to enable us to ENTER a system so we can fight you in defence of what is ours.
You say you want to fight us? Thats all we're doing. Promising that we will do everything in our power to gain entry to a system and fight you, the queuing system be damned.
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DigitalCommunist
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:37:00 -
[363]
Originally by: Riddari
Oh man he is always so happy when he makes up a bone like this and gets to chew on it forever.
P-Ridday!
You're so very right, I'll be reminding you guys of this for years to come. But nothing I made up would ever come so close to portraying us as the good guys with such startling effectiveness. Thank you CYVOK
I'll forgo quoting his character assessment of AAA here, thousands of ASCN members have already read it. Just know that you'll be seen in similar fashion by much of the community, should you choose to employ such lamer strategies.
I will quote something else however, for community benefit.
Originally by: CYVOK ANSN members and Corps that decide to leave during this conflict will be immediately blacklisted.
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ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 28/09/2006 20:31:23
Originally by: Malachon Draco
If you think we will let the crappy design of the game lose us a station, think again. If you want our stations, you will have to fight for them fair and square, and nodes be damned.
ORLY?
Note: bolded text.
So basically you're saying that if we want to fight for them we have to do so "fairly", not that we would even consider anything else but you're allowed to use every exploit in the game available to you because erm, uhm, aaaah you're the direct descendents of Jesus Christ?
And yes, crashing a node is an exploit, you are exploiting a weakness in the server/code.
No, we are not crashing a node intentionally. But we will defend a station with all forces we can muster, even though we know that may cause node death.
Important difference is intent here. We INTEND to defend to our fullest ability. And we ACCEPT that that means node death, but that is not our concern.
so what your saying is that..
if we attack a station and you cant get your troops in you will keep pilling them into the system next door until the node/server crashes?
cause thats all I keep on reading.. You intend to log on as many as it takes fo rthe node to die so our attack will stop..
--------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/
--thebold |
Alasse Cuthalion
TAOSP Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Malachon Draco
No, we are not crashing a node intentionally. But we will defend a station with all forces we can muster, even though we know that may cause node death.
Important difference is intent here. We INTEND to defend to our fullest ability. And we ACCEPT that that means node death, but that is not our concern.
Apparantly you didn't get the memo, let me quote your alliance leader for you...
Originally by: CRYVOK
If I am given the choice of watching a station get obliterated from another system because CCP wont let me in to defend it or crashing the node by logging in 2000 ASCN members next store... Well, which woudl you choose?
That damn well sounds like intention to me, yes sirree it does.
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:40:00 -
[366]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Has everyone forgot that the fight hasnt even started yet?
Top entertainment for the initial post though, I'm just waiting for someone to say "tick tock" and the start of this campaign will be complete
Eve Blacklight Style
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:41:00 -
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tick tock - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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dabster
Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:41:00 -
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lol @ Bob
You should be glad ASCN arent such forum-monkeys as yourselves, or this thread would have been really bad by now
Gl to everyone who isnt Bob .o/ ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click. |
Amthrianius
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:43:00 -
[369]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: CYVOK
Justifying deliberate lag tactics with the specific and deliberate intent to crash nodes. -CYVOK-
An immediate permanent ban of an account may result if:
d. A player has engaged in activity that intentionally causes others to lose connection, suffer latency issues (lag) or to crash to desktop (CTD).
You intend to attack us, knowing that the attack and subsequent defense will cause node death. You are just as guilty as us, we just state beforehand that we will not restrain our legitimate defensive efforts to spare the server.
Or what do you want? Our carriers NOT launching fighters at your dreads shooting our POSses? Gotcha, that's really gonna happen, yessir.
We don't go there with the INTENT to crash the node to save our stations, we go there with the INTENT to play eve. Not the intent to Crash eve. ---------------
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Sammiel
Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:43:00 -
[370]
Originally by: ponieus
so what your saying is that..
if we attack a station and you cant get your troops in you will keep pilling them into the system next door until the node/server crashes?
cause thats all I keep on reading.. You intend to log on as many as it takes fo rthe node to die so our attack will stop..
LOOK MA I'M IN THE GREAT BOB/ASCN THREAD OF '06!!!
Ummmm, no one could even do that. Node boundaries aren't based on any geographical construct in Eve. So at best, you would crash some unrelated node and lose your fleet doing that. Which would hardly be an awesome strategy for us nefarious exploiters.
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ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:44:00 -
[371]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: CYVOK
Justifying deliberate lag tactics with the specific and deliberate intent to crash nodes. -CYVOK-
An immediate permanent ban of an account may result if:
d. A player has engaged in activity that intentionally causes others to lose connection, suffer latency issues (lag) or to crash to desktop (CTD).
You intend to attack us, knowing that the attack and subsequent defense will cause node death. You are just as guilty as us, we just state beforehand that we will not restrain our legitimate defensive efforts to spare the server.
Or what do you want? Our carriers NOT launching fighters at your dreads shooting our POSses? Gotcha, that's really gonna happen, yessir.
we are not the ones putting out statemnts to our troops of vaild tatics "including" killing nodes.
spin it all you want.. we are not the ones that are setting out to crash the nodes/server
we are setting out to fight..
spin it all you want.. for we are warriors and you are our prey.. get used to it. --------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/
--thebold |
Stockarian
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:46:00 -
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Wait a minute, I just found an old bob handbook...here it is...their standard, agreed upon answer to any question.
"I'm an important player and you're just a n00b. I've certainly achieved much more in EVE than you have. I have a deep knowledge of the game and you -- well, you don't. I don't want you to forget this and I'm going to give you a subtle reminder in my answer to your question."
Athelas Loraiel > "This isn't a fleet, we're only the appetizer."
Cheers, Stock
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Louisa Torres
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: Louisa Torres Well, I guess it's a good thing we're planning on doing everything in our power to prevent such an overload. A shame you don't share the love of this game of PvP as we do to enable us all to have fun.
What is your proposal? Seriously?
Extension of the tournament?
You know fully well that the lagbeast kicks hard these days at 20 v 20.
tbh we've had some great 20v20, even 50v50 fights up in fountain recently. We managed this because we spread ourselves out in different areas of conflict. We didn't just zerg the ONE system with hundreds of pilots.
We'll be avoiding doing that this time, too, I guess whether you guys play along will prove whether you're here for THE GAME (as someone else kept saying up thar ^^) or just for Sim City.
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Alistair Theisman
Caldari No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:46:00 -
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Again, as just an AXE grunt reading the aforementioned blog, I never got the idea that in the fight against BOB a valid tactic was going to be lag bombs, whether that be shuttles in poses, cans full of BM's, anything of the sort.
It always seemed that based on the numbers of players involved, and the current state of the servers, that any attempt to defend our space with sizeable numbers or any attack on Bob space with sizeable numbers would result in massive lag, and possibly to certainly (again depending on numbers) result in a node crash. This also was with the understanding that it was a very unfortunate side effect of the server states. Do we want large scale fleet battles...Yes. Would we like to be able to activate our mods...Yes. Would we like to try and use other tactics other than the blob...Yes. Will the server support these...NO.
Again I would not expect BOB not to respond in numbers to an invasion of their systems, and I expect ASCN to do the same.
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Ediz Daxx
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:47:00 -
[375]
ASCN has won this thread.
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Shaa Ku
Amarr Red Monkey Faction
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:48:00 -
[376]
Mayby i am stupid but is it not better if you got x amount of ppl more then your enemy to attack on multiple fronts. You win at 2 or 3 places and lose on 1 rather then just jumping everything you have in to a system, crash it and go nowere.
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Joram McRory
Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:48:00 -
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TBH the smack from both sides here (before the shooting has even started) is a disgrace to everyone.
BoB are attacking us we will fight back - we should all have fun - what else is there to say??
gl & to all Joram
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:48:00 -
[378]
Originally by: Randay tick tock
Thanks
Eve Blacklight Style
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TheTruth1
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:49:00 -
[379]
Everyone knows what both sides said. Now its just a flame war. Whats really funny is how everyone thinks that their little bit of input is going to change something for their side. BOB and ASCN are at war, anything else is just spin and posturing and both sides are guilty.
The TWD misquote has played out and the ppl talking about "possible future ASCN exploits" are all saying the same thing over and over with a little twist.
I think its time for a lock, or the players on both sides to learn some self control
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RedClaws
Amarr Dragon's Rage Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:51:00 -
[380]
Guys please I thought BOB and ASCN were supposed to be the honorable and adult alliances.
Now I for one will not participate in deliberate exploiting of the current eveserver status but I don't think it is something we can avoid. 200 members are easily found.
Now I salute BOB with honor and I will see you on the battlefield, may the best alliance win.
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Zhalakin
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: TheTruth1 Everyone knows what both sides said. Now its just a flame war. Whats really funny is how everyone thinks that their little bit of input is going to change something for their side. BOB and ASCN are at war, anything else is just spin and posturing and both sides are guilty.
The TWD misquote has played out and the ppl talking about "possible future ASCN exploits" are all saying the same thing over and over with a little twist.
I think its time for a lock, or the players on both sides to learn some self control
are u allowed to post here?
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Alexison
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:52:00 -
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In the name of HUNNAKUG I wish everyone good luck and glorious death.
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Exelsior
The Echelon
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Shaa Ku Mayby i am stupid but is it not better if you got x amount of ppl more then your enemy to attack on multiple fronts. You win at 2 or 3 places and lose on 1 rather then just jumping everything you have in to a system, crash it and go nowere.
I've been thinking the same...
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 28/09/2006 20:54:32
Originally by: TheTruth1 Everyone knows what both sides said. Now its just a flame war. Whats really funny is how everyone thinks that their little bit of input is going to change something for their side. BOB and ASCN are at war, anything else is just spin and posturing and both sides are guilty.
The TWD misquote has played out and the ppl talking about "possible future ASCN exploits" are all saying the same thing over and over with a little twist.
I think its time for a lock, or the players on both sides to learn some self control
time for a lock?.. comeon, things are just heating up...
nobody is being dis-respectful, its just some pretty heated but nevertheless quite polite discussion...
additionally what is being talked about is highly important to all EVE players.. i.e the current state of warfare...
People were complaining about the dullness of the forums.. well enjoy because this is one of those legendary threads that are worth savouring.
[edit: typo]
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DigitalCommunist
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:54:00 -
[385]
I wonder what Halseth Durn is thinking in all this..
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JP Moregain
Gallente EVE Reserve Bank
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:54:00 -
[386]
Never mind the battles lagging out the servers, I believe this thread has already crashed multiple nodes...
Selling front row seats, best of luck to all
"In JP We Trust, All Others Require Collateral..." |
Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist I wonder what Halseth Durn is thinking in all this..
"Oh no, not again"?
Eve Blacklight Style
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Joerd Toastius
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:55:00 -
[388]
When did Eve become so deadly serious that victory became more important than integrity?
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ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:01:00 -
[389]
Originally by: Shin Ra I used to hate these thread, but with the way the forums have been going lately, this so soooo refreshing.
see even shin ra approves..
hehe.. --------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/
--thebold |
OzaLoni
Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:02:00 -
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'to coin a phrase from a recently departed corp member... Hello Might Defenders of the Feyth, show me some soul brother. Are you ready to kick it? DJ, spin that ****!
PS. Cyvok - i'ma sorry brother, but we ain't even started yet. Surrender .......
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