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Coaxil
Volatile Equilibrium
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Posted - 2015.02.03 19:21:54 -
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Hello,
I'm looking for a merc corp to help my corporation in war we're having at the moment.
First of all, I'm NOT willing to pay UP FRONT. I got screwed a couple of times with paying a merc corp that didn't show up, so I propose a different deal. I'm willing to pay 50mil after I see that at least couple of your members have moved to our system, then I'm willing to pay 10mils for evey kill you'll get (up to 200mil), no matter if my members participated in it or you did it by yourself. Also, if there will be a surrender offer, I'm willing to give all ISK from it to you.
If you don't mind that kind of deal, here is some info on the situation.
Target corp has 6 members.
We're being camped by 3 players who are 95% of time piloting those ships: Harbinger, Apocalypse, Proteus, Phantasm. They're online mostly around 17-24 EVE time. Their killboards are not great, but not terrible as well (mostly MTU kills and ganks with couple decent actions).
One of the targets seems pretty experienced in PVP (the one piloting t3 cruiser) while the others seems medioker.
If you're interested please send me an in-game mail so we can talk about the details of targets and the deal itself.
Cheers, Coaxil |
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
459
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Posted - 2015.02.03 19:44:12 -
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You know, you probably should have paid us off at the start. Instead of proclaiming that you will crush us with your numbers and then have your corp be paralyzed by a single one of my boys and hemorrhage 30% of your members.
Also, no merc corp will work without being paid up front or having the money in escrow. Good luck with that.
Coaxil wrote:Hello,
I'm looking for a merc corp to help my corporation in war we're having at the moment.
First of all, I'm NOT willing to pay UP FRONT. I got screwed a couple of times with paying a merc corp that didn't show up, so I propose a different deal. I'm willing to pay 50mil after I see that at least couple of your members have moved to our system, then I'm willing to pay 10mils for evey kill you'll get (up to 200mil), no matter if my members participated in it or you did it by yourself. Also, if there will be a surrender offer, I'm willing to give all ISK from it to you.
If you don't mind that kind of deal, here is some info on the situation.
Target corp has 6 members.
We're being camped by 3 players who are 95% of time piloting those ships: Harbinger, Apocalypse, Proteus, Phantasm. They're online mostly around 17-24 EVE time. Their killboards are not great, but not terrible as well (mostly MTU kills and ganks with couple decent actions).
One of the targets seems pretty experienced in PVP (the one piloting t3 cruiser) while the others seems medioker.
If you're interested please send me an in-game mail so we can talk about the details of targets and the deal itself.
Cheers, Coaxil
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Arden Elenduil
Unlimited Ripoff Works
279
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Posted - 2015.02.03 19:44:56 -
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Also, I take great offense to you calling me mediocre.... I'm at least slightly better than those other guys. |
Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
535
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Posted - 2015.02.03 19:49:51 -
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Coaxil wrote:Hello,
I'm looking for a merc corp to help my corporation in war we're having at the moment.
First of all, I'm NOT willing to pay UP FRONT. I got screwed a couple of times with paying a merc corp that didn't show up, so I propose a different deal. I'm willing to pay 50mil after I see that at least couple of your members have moved to our system, then I'm willing to pay 10mils for evey kill you'll get (up to 200mil), no matter if my members participated in it or you did it by yourself. Also, if there will be a surrender offer, I'm willing to give all ISK from it to you.
If you don't mind that kind of deal, here is some info on the situation.
Target corp has 6 members.
We're being camped by 3 players who are 95% of time piloting those ships: Harbinger, Apocalypse, Proteus, Phantasm. They're online mostly around 17-24 EVE time. Their killboards are not great, but not terrible as well (mostly MTU kills and ganks with couple decent actions).
One of the targets seems pretty experienced in PVP (the one piloting t3 cruiser) while the others seems medioker.
If you're interested please send me an in-game mail so we can talk about the details of targets and the deal itself.
Cheers, Coaxil
Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
Dec's in. |
Kaely Tanniss
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
216
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Posted - 2015.02.03 20:26:37 -
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Coaxil wrote:Hello,
I'm looking for a merc corp to help my corporation in war we're having at the moment.
First of all, I'm NOT willing to pay UP FRONT. I got screwed a couple of times with paying a merc corp that didn't show up, so I propose a different deal. I'm willing to pay 50mil after I see that at least couple of your members have moved to our system, then I'm willing to pay 10mils for evey kill you'll get (up to 200mil), no matter if my members participated in it or you did it by yourself. Also, if there will be a surrender offer, I'm willing to give all ISK from it to you.
If you don't mind that kind of deal, here is some info on the situation.
Target corp has 6 members.
We're being camped by 3 players who are 95% of time piloting those ships: Harbinger, Apocalypse, Proteus, Phantasm. They're online mostly around 17-24 EVE time. Their killboards are not great, but not terrible as well (mostly MTU kills and ganks with couple decent actions).
One of the targets seems pretty experienced in PVP (the one piloting t3 cruiser) while the others seems medioker.
If you're interested please send me an in-game mail so we can talk about the details of targets and the deal itself.
Cheers, Coaxil
Gl finding a merc corp that will take a contract under those conditions. Also, you may want to exercise a bit more discretion when asking for merc assistance..for reasons that may be obvious to you now.
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Arden Elenduil
Unlimited Ripoff Works
280
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Posted - 2015.02.03 20:40:21 -
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I do believe **** have begun to be upwardly inclined by now indeed. |
Alana Charen-Teng
Wardog Squadron
504
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Posted - 2015.02.03 23:23:49 -
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I WILL ACCEPT THIS LUCRATIVE CONTRACT
Now where do I move to!? |
Alana Charen-Teng
Wardog Squadron
504
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Posted - 2015.02.03 23:28:17 -
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I just looked at Pending Wars for your corp. I lol'd. |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
2719
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Posted - 2015.02.04 03:19:20 -
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Not being paid up front is unworkable, and the amount you're offering for the risk and effort involved is downright insulting.
I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
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Paranoid Loyd
3739
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Posted - 2015.02.04 03:23:43 -
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Ship toaster justice. I think we all agree this thread was properly dealt with.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Starrakatt
Hunter Killers. Forsaken Asylum
209
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Posted - 2015.02.04 13:33:53 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Not being paid up front is unworkable, and the amount you're offering for the risk and effort involved is downright insulting. Indeed.
If I was not in such a good mood (2 weeks vacations) I would wardec you myself.
Forsaken Asylum's ways
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Kane Ceres
Makiriemi Industries
8
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Posted - 2015.02.04 16:49:31 -
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Corp folding in 3...2...1.... |
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
459
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Posted - 2015.02.04 20:23:20 -
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Kane Ceres wrote:Corp folding in 3...2...1....
Have you seen their member count graph, bro? Check it. Then check our war. |
Cannibal Kane
Blood Raiders Elite
4708
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Posted - 2015.02.05 04:59:34 -
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Coaxil wrote:Hello,
I'm looking for a merc corp to help my corporation in war we're having at the moment.
First of all, I'm NOT willing to pay UP FRONT. I got screwed a couple of times with paying a merc corp that didn't show up, so I propose a different deal. I'm willing to pay 50mil after I see that at least couple of your members have moved to our system, then I'm willing to pay 10mils for evey kill you'll get (up to 200mil), no matter if my members participated in it or you did it by yourself. Also, if there will be a surrender offer, I'm willing to give all ISK from it to you.
If you don't mind that kind of deal, here is some info on the situation.
Target corp has 6 members.
We're being camped by 3 players who are 95% of time piloting those ships: Harbinger, Apocalypse, Proteus, Phantasm. They're online mostly around 17-24 EVE time. Their killboards are not great, but not terrible as well (mostly MTU kills and ganks with couple decent actions).
One of the targets seems pretty experienced in PVP (the one piloting t3 cruiser) while the others seems medioker.
If you're interested please send me an in-game mail so we can talk about the details of targets and the deal itself.
Cheers, Coaxil
Calling your aggressors not great while loosing to them is a little bit backwards is it not.
In any event, you have opened the flood gates and maybe should have used the mercs listed in the merc channel. Never the less, you should be expecting many wars.
"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
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Vector Symian
0 Fear
264
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Posted - 2015.02.06 04:38:25 -
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The Scope Project will accept the poor war orphans from this conflict
Also buddy if you wish to protect your corp learn how to defend your self get some basic skills and some pvp skills and make it mandatory for your peeps to do so to
instant basic pvp backup that might just bloody their nose enough to hurt their precious kill boards |
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
460
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Posted - 2015.02.06 05:28:48 -
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Vector Symian wrote:The Scope Project will accept the poor war orphans from this conflict
Also buddy if you wish to protect your corp learn how to defend your self get some basic skills and some pvp skills and make it mandatory for your peeps to do so to
instant basic pvp backup that might just bloody their nose enough to hurt their precious kill boards
The sad bit is they do have mandatory PVP ~training~ and ~ops~. |
Alana Charen-Teng
Wardog Squadron
505
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Posted - 2015.02.06 08:08:39 -
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Loraine Gess wrote: The sad bit is they do have mandatory PVP ~training~ and ~ops~.
It started out as a mining op, but got rebranded as a pvp op after you showed up to slaughter them. |
Coaxil
Volatile Equilibrium
0
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Posted - 2015.02.06 17:35:10 -
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It's sad, that people like some of you (not pointing fingers) are having fun of people that are just minding their own business. But it's EVE, and to be honest, it makes EVE wonderful for some reason.
I'm also delighted that there are pilots who still value kindness, who are helpfull and who take pleasure out of other activities that beating up mostly defencless people. I've received couple very helpfull mails concerning this post - thank you guys.
It was also a valuable lesson to not post anything here cause people will just exploit you.
Fly safe or fly drunk.
Cheers, Coaxil |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5058
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Posted - 2015.02.06 18:02:22 -
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Coaxil, Fold your corp up and disband it, then immediately recreate it. Every time they wardec you, repeat this process. Don't post anymore about it and don't respond to any mails or convos they send you. Eventually they will get bored and go away.
This thread by the way is a prime example of why it's generally best to just use the good old fashioned methods of evading a wardec. The second you point out to mercs that you are wardecced and willing to pay for it to go away, you become a target.
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Reppyk
The Black Shell
720
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Posted - 2015.02.06 18:06:46 -
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Welcome to C+P. I guess you should have read a bit around before... I don't know... Acting cluelessly ?
I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK.
I AM A LOWSEC GANKER, HIGHSEC SCUM, NULLSEC BASTARD, WORMHOLE INVADER.
Welcome to, welcome to, welcome to my scramble. GÖÑ
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Solitary Pal
The Filthy Few Break-A-Wish Foundation
51
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Posted - 2015.02.07 00:24:35 -
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Actually the mistake you made was posing a comepletely unreasonable contract with a ridiculous price. No merc corp will move assets to your HQ system for 10 million isk per kill up to 200 million (does anyone even do PPK anymore?) and no money upfront, you followed completely the wrong route to finding a merc to help you.
I have a monocle therefore my opinion matters more than yours.
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Kaely Tanniss
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
219
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Posted - 2015.02.07 01:00:21 -
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[quote=Lucas Kell]Coaxil, Fold your corp up and disband it, then immediately recreate it. Every time they wardec you, repeat this process. Don't post anymore about it and don't respond to any mails or convos they send you. Eventually they will get bored and go away.
This thread by the way is a prime example of why it's generally best to just use the good old fashioned methods of evading a wardec. The second you point out to mercs that you are wardecced and willing to pay for it to go away, you become a target.[/quote
His issue was how he posted his request. In that situation, you don't make demands..or you will indeed become a target. His post was borderline tears, he made unreasonable demands, and what he's willing to pay isn't even worth the time it takes to move assets. There are merc adverts here for a reason..however, discretion and private negotiations are the way to go. I'm sure he has learned that lesson, or at least hope, quite well. Running from decs does not make them go away. Fight back...even if you lose, try to earn some form of respect.
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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MadChild1
1
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Posted - 2015.02.07 12:27:07 -
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this thread is lolz |
Shadow51585
Black Storm Cartel Mercenary Coalition
8
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Posted - 2015.02.07 16:01:06 -
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At the minimum, you're going to have to pay the war dec fee up front.
Beyond that, it depends on the group. Pay per kill, high value targets, etc... that's all up to the people you are working with.
No group in New Eden would accept the terms you put out, and in fact, most would be very insulted by it. That's why you got war decced :P |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
178
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Posted - 2015.02.07 17:57:12 -
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It appears to me, that like many others things, mercs in EvE do no work like they would work in RL. "mercs" in EvE specially in hisec tend to work "dont care" directive. When hired there is a good chance that those "mercs" will not do what they are payed for. Its like hiring pirates to do the job. In RL those pirate-mercswill not get many subsequent jobs, since even maybe specially merc are hired by reputation. I was thinking hiring merc from time to time, but in EvE its not worth the effort. Not many take the job of merc serious and do the jobs they are payed for. Instead the use the excuse of EvE being a harsh place and just take the money.
At best hiring "mercs" is unsafe business, it might even be just throwaway isk. Or indirectly giving isk to the alts of those ppl that wardecced you. As the OP can see, asking for the help of "mercs" just gets you more deccs.
Go with the tips Lucas Kell gave.
Am i wrong? What are the mercs best known for doing their jobs and being honest with jobs they will not do instead of just taking the money?
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Starrakatt
Hunter Killers. Forsaken Asylum
210
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Posted - 2015.02.07 20:52:51 -
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La Rynx wrote:What are the mercs best known for doing their jobs and being honest with jobs they will not do instead of just taking the money? I think it can sefely be said taht Break-A-Wish and Pursuit of Happyness are well know for being thorough and professional for their contract's completion.
You can also get Forsaken Asylum amongst the good and reliable mercenaries as far as being thrustworthy and getting the job done. At least, we get new clients all the time and old clients coming back, so we must do something right. For myself, I just personally got a 100m bonus from a pleased client, heh.
Marmite can also do it, though they do have a lingering reputation of pipe and hub campers, but less so recently, and they always had a core of hunters who focus on their targets.
Deadly Fingertips seems to be promising, though they got an instant rep of being station campers when they started out, you can see on they KB that they have a group of players that actually move a lot.
Devil's Warrior also have a good reputation, though I don't know if they are still active as mercenaries.
I am likely forgetting other mercs that are out there.
Forsaken Asylum's ways
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
179
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Posted - 2015.02.07 21:29:53 -
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Starrakatt wrote:I am likely forgetting other mercs that are out there.
Thank you for your input. Trust is something mercs need and as of now, i am still not convinced, that the marmite/code banter was something serious. Considering Breake-a-wish i do not think, they would go all-out on code for example.
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Starrakatt
Hunter Killers. Forsaken Asylum
210
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Posted - 2015.02.07 22:08:32 -
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La Rynx wrote:Starrakatt wrote:I am likely forgetting other mercs that are out there. Thank you for your input. Trust is something mercs need and as of now, i am still not convinced, that the marmite/code banter was something serious. Considering Breake-a-wish i do not think, they would go all-out on code for example. One cannot really go all out against a bunch of -10.0 Catalyst gankers.
Everyone is already doing it.
Forsaken Asylum's ways
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Sahriah BloodStone
Hunter Killers. Forsaken Asylum
49
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Posted - 2015.02.07 22:53:51 -
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Starrakatt wrote:La Rynx wrote:Starrakatt wrote:I am likely forgetting other mercs that are out there. Thank you for your input. Trust is something mercs need and as of now, i am still not convinced, that the marmite/code banter was something serious. Considering Breake-a-wish i do not think, they would go all-out on code for example. One cannot really go all out against a bunch of -10.0 Catalyst gankers. Everyone is already doing it.
My buddy here speaks the truth. Code aren't worth chasing and most of them are -10 which makes a war dec pointless. We do get contracts on them occasionally anyway though.
There are plenty of reputable mercs out there that will do the job, the key is to determine exactly what you want, we all have our specialties.
In regards to the OP, his 'tone' was quiet insulting and his terms laughable. If you want to hire mercs, you best contact us privately, that the point of our threads.
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Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
537
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Posted - 2015.02.08 01:12:46 -
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La Rynx wrote:Starrakatt wrote:I am likely forgetting other mercs that are out there. Thank you for your input. Trust is something mercs need and as of now, i am still not convinced, that the marmite/code banter was something serious. Considering Breake-a-wish i do not think, they would go all-out on code for example.
Honestly, we wouldn't take a contract against CODE. This has nothing to do with the fact that I think they are hilarious or that we have assisted them in the past, but is entirely based upon that fact that I do not believe we can meaningfully impact the operations of CODE. This is exactly why the Mermaid crusade against them has achieved nothing.
The vast majority of what CODE does involves suicide ganking, which results in damn near everyone being -10. They are already taking all the reasonable precautions required to avoid putting their ships in a position of danger until the moment they begin ganking. Because of this, the best we could possibly hope for would be to interrupt the occasional gank. Maybe save a single freighter, if we were lucky. But the reality is that even if we were successful, it would impact such an insignificant amount of their activity that it would be a monumental waste of time, effort, and manpower.
So no, I wouldn't "go all-out" on CODE because I'm an honest enough merc to tell you that I cannot meaningfully impact them - that there aren't any mercs that could meaningfully impact them. I'm not willing to take your ISK and commit to something knowing full well that I'm screwing you over and will achieve nothing. |
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