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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2015.03.17 06:24:09 -
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I created this character with the expectation I'd delete it after a week to create my "real" character.
That was 136m SP ago Too late now. |
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
504
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Posted - 2015.03.17 07:38:28 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Chal0ner wrote:Erika Mizune wrote:Yea like the other's have said, there's not a way to really change that, at least right now.
Tho if it was, that would make keeping track of your player standings for one ... interesting ... lol TECH RANT Not really, it's the same with a computer directory service. The user name is a property of the user object which also has a ID. The ID never changes, while the name property might. So log everything against the user (player in this case) ID and not the name property. Problem solved. /TECH RANT That's exactly how things are done (unsurprisingly) Yes, CCP are considering paid name changes. Yes, full history (including searching) would be maintained.
Frankly only way to do would be to have a name change listed as "also known as 'that name before the name change" in a bio. |
Aes Algaert
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.03.17 11:21:23 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Yeah consequences and all that but once searches still work that's not an issue,
This. You could also limit changes to once/twice per character, once a year, or something similar, and charge a PLEX for it, to prevent people from changing it every other week.
That way you could at least rename your first character or the one bought from character bazaar without having to stick with its name for the rest of your life.
As for Bad Bobby who stole 650b in Blueprints, he can easily buy a new character at the bazaar with his funds and come back next week without anyone knowing it's him. However, getting renamed, as long as there is a history, will not help him at all. |
Diggle Dirker
University of Caille Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2015.03.17 16:29:34 -
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^ Exactly. 'Game breaking' is hyperbolic nonsense. |
Goti fase
Faulcon de Lazy
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Posted - 2015.03.18 17:14:07 -
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I have often wondered about the ability for minor name changes as I would prefer the 'f' to be an 'F' in my character name. Might send a petition asking if it is possible but I can live with it :P |
J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5986
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Posted - 2015.03.19 15:58:17 -
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Goti fase wrote:I have often wondered about the ability for minor name changes as I would prefer the 'f' to be an 'F' in my character name. Might send a petition asking if it is possible but I can live with it :P
Most likely they will grant such a request, mainly as your name doesn't actually change but it's just a capitalization error.
I had the same issue with an alt in the past and they did fix the surname error for me.
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Tristan Valentina
Moira. Villore Accords
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Posted - 2015.03.20 16:11:10 -
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With a name like Tarjanus Ceasar why would you want to change it. =P to much tyrant for one man?
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Kyle Tawate
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.05.11 05:22:25 -
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1: Limit the name change to once a year. 2: Make it expensive. 3: Make a search history of names. 4: Have the ability to mark peoples names down if you don't want to be tricked again (like on skype). 5: Add a star next to it to let you know it was changed.
Applying these feature will fix absolutely every problem with this concept and make everyone happy.
Name changes are a fundemental feature for any sucessful MMO.
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Minmatar Citizen 534612187
Citizen Corp.
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Posted - 2015.05.11 06:18:10 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote: First off try and find someone on this thread that would benefit more from a name change mechanic than me.
(I like my CCP-given name, so changing it wouldn't be of much benefit.) |
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
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Posted - 2015.05.11 18:01:19 -
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Abigail Lockheart wrote:Will you stop playing just because somebody at other end of the New Eden will be allowed to change his name?
A lot of people would, yes. Possibly enough to kill the game outright, especially if Star Citizen escapes the infinite development cycle of eternity and there's a competitor in the genre.
Lack of ability to completely escape the consequences of your actions without leaving the game entirely is pretty much the only actual unique stand-out thing in Eve, it's very understandable that CCP is reluctant to weaken that particular aspect of things. They're unlikely to allow people to alter the identifiers other people see for their characters for basically the same reason they've never seriously considered setting up multiple separate servers to replace the single-shard environment. |
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Azda Ja
Green Skull LLC
3687
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Posted - 2015.05.11 19:25:28 -
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Kyle Tawate wrote:1: Limit the name change to once a year. 2: Make it expensive. 3: Make a search history of names. 4: Have the ability to mark peoples names down if you don't want to be tricked again (like on skype). 5: Add a star next to it to let you know it was changed.
Applying these feature will fix absolutely every problem with this concept and make everyone happy. Necromancy belongs in other MMOs. Take this to the F&I forum instead of reviving a 3 month old NCQ&A thread.
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Vazik Tyros
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.14 05:10:32 -
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My opinion:
Never allow name changes, ever.
You don't like your name? Start a new character and be more thoughtful with the name selection.
The pros of allowing name changes are vastly outweighed by the cons. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2015.05.14 12:19:06 -
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Vazik Tyros wrote:My opinion:
Never allow name changes, ever.
You don't like your name? Start a new character and be more thoughtful with the name selection.
The pros of allowing name changes are vastly outweighed by the cons.
Can you list the Cons as you see them? (just to make sure we're on the same page)
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Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
612
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Posted - 2015.05.14 14:55:04 -
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Azda Ja wrote:Necromancy belongs in other MMOs.
I dunno, man, I got turned into a floating space corpse and then brought back by magical phlebotenum just the other day, and the intro missions are directed by a ghost that even looks like someone wearing a sheet and has a voice with an echo effect.
Plus the Amarr royalty is possessed at this point and one of the major enemy factions is literally zombies (the Sansha). |
Oraac Ensor
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Posted - 2015.05.14 16:03:41 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Vazik Tyros wrote:My opinion:
Never allow name changes, ever.
You don't like your name? Start a new character and be more thoughtful with the name selection.
The pros of allowing name changes are vastly outweighed by the cons. Can you list the Cons as you see them? (just to make sure we're on the same page) Presumably this is on the basis that asking for the Pros would result in a blank post. |
Vazik Tyros
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.14 16:27:37 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Vazik Tyros wrote:My opinion:
Never allow name changes, ever.
You don't like your name? Start a new character and be more thoughtful with the name selection.
The pros of allowing name changes are vastly outweighed by the cons. Can you list the Cons as you see them? (just to make sure we're on the same page)
The only benefit of allowing name changes would be to give people who didn't put enough thought into their name selection an opportunity to remedy that mistake.
The Cons? You put a system in place that can be exploited by people who don't wish to be held accountable for their actions. And yes it could be limited by frequency and such, but it will still cause problems of mistaken identity, allowing exploiters to manipulate it for nefarious ends. There should be no easy escape for anyone who's sullied their reputation. In my opinion, displaying a history of their past names would not adequately compensate for the problems caused by allowing a name change.
But that's just my perspective on it. I've been playing for less than two months and I know there are strong feelings on both sides of this discussion by far more experienced players. |
Zoe Athame
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
253
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Posted - 2015.05.14 21:54:04 -
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Vazik Tyros wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Vazik Tyros wrote:My opinion:
Never allow name changes, ever.
You don't like your name? Start a new character and be more thoughtful with the name selection.
The pros of allowing name changes are vastly outweighed by the cons. Can you list the Cons as you see them? (just to make sure we're on the same page) The Cons? You put a system in place that can be exploited by people who don't wish to be held accountable for their actions. And yes it could be limited by frequency and such, but it will still cause problems of mistaken identity, allowing exploiters to manipulate it for nefarious ends. There should be no easy escape for anyone who's sullied their reputation.
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Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
612
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Posted - 2015.05.14 22:21:26 -
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Except in that case the character is still devalued by its reputation, and can't be sold for as much, so... still lasting consequences.
Try to sell a character that's in a bunch of C&P threads as a corp thief for the same price as an unsullied character of similar skill points, and get back to us on how much uproarious laughter at your expense you get to enjoy as a result. |
Mike Azariah
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.15 04:44:38 -
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My personal opinion is a kneejerk reaction of hell no.
But I do understand the foolishly chosen name when you are tryig out a game only to regret it later on. But how much later? I say on the day you change from being a trial to a paid customer and ONLY then. Not once a year, not ever again.
You decide the game is real and you want a real name? Good, make the decision and live with that decision. I am fine with treating anybody under 30 days as temporary anyways. But a 3 year old who suddenly wants to obscure his past in a bouse over or having to dig deeper to actually remember who they are? No
hell no
m
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Kale Freeman
Dirt 'n' Glitter
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Posted - 2015.05.15 08:34:41 -
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I feel much the same way about people who change corps.
Sure, allow people to move within the first 30days or so, in case the corp they joined wasn't what they expected, but once the 30 days are up you should "make the decision and live with that decision... suddenly wanting to obscure his past ... or having to dig deeper to remember who they are? No
hell no"
/s
Actually I support both corp and name changes provided there is a permanent record of the changes and the the record of the changes can be accessed via API.
I also think the sale of a character should be record somewhere permanently (on the character sheet) and should also be available over the API. |
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Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
595
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Posted - 2015.05.15 09:26:38 -
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yes for name changes, maybe once the character has been sold to another person but still keeping record of previous names or simply adding an alias to your char
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Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
2088
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Posted - 2015.05.15 12:54:22 -
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Yes please, as long as it is easily traceable and fairly expensive (a couple of plex, perhaps). A name search in People & Places would have to search aliases as well as current names, for instance.
Obviously not for magnificently named characters such as yours truly, though :)
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Vazik Tyros
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.15 19:12:39 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:My personal opinion is a kneejerk reaction of hell no.
But I do understand the foolishly chosen name when you are tryig out a game only to regret it later on. But how much later? I say on the day you change from being a trial to a paid customer and ONLY then. Not once a year, not ever again.
You decide the game is real and you want a real name? Good, make the decision and live with that decision. I am fine with treating anybody under 30 days as temporary anyways. But a 3 year old who suddenly wants to obscure his past in a bouse over or having to dig deeper to actually remember who they are? No
hell no
m
Well said.
And I agree that allowing a name change during or at the end of the Trial period is reasonable. |
Oraac Ensor
631
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Posted - 2015.05.16 00:33:57 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:My personal opinion is a kneejerk reaction of hell no.
But I do understand the foolishly chosen name when you are tryig out a game only to regret it later on. But how much later? I say on the day you change from being a trial to a paid customer and ONLY then. Not once a year, not ever again.
You decide the game is real and you want a real name? Good, make the decision and live with that decision. I am fine with treating anybody under 30 days as temporary anyways. But a 3 year old who suddenly wants to obscure his past in a bouse over or having to dig deeper to actually remember who they are? No
hell no
m Yep, I would go along with this as the one exception to the 'no change' rule. Seems perfectly reasonable. |
Saisin
State War Academy Caldari State
257
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Posted - 2015.05.16 21:31:37 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:You can't change your name unless they decide your name is unsuitable. This decision comes from your name being reported as offensive.
The meta game would be destroyed if you could change your name whenever you want.
This one gave me a chuckle!
OP, just sell your character on the bazaar and buy a new one, using a throw away alt for the transactions.
"surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope...
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Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
354
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Posted - 2015.05.17 14:10:40 -
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Nathan Galbadia wrote:An Alias tab in character info that would list all known names/monikers would be a fair compromise also.
Sweet! I want to be AKA "The Toe" |
Victor Emmanuel
Bearded BattleBears Brave Collective
4
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Posted - 2015.06.07 16:48:51 -
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Lots of hyperbole in this thread sheesh.
Yes to paid name changes with maybe once per year limits, fully searchable on both API and your character sheet, with a list of previous names.
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Adolph Weltschmerz
Adolphs Plantation
9
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Posted - 2015.06.09 15:11:23 -
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Tristan Valentina wrote:With a name like Tarjanus Ceasar why would you want to change it. =P to much tyrant for one man?
Tristan
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Isiana
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.06.18 13:07:43 -
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Personally, I'd just like to add a last name. |
Freya Sertan
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
188
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Posted - 2015.06.18 16:16:53 -
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You can change your name and appearance at any time.
It's called biomass.
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Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
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