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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.03.06 00:47:49 -
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Ragnar Severasse wrote:I just discovered this thread. I'm not going to read the op because this **** is pretty humorous without context. Context on why he finds it so funny: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:You know ... when we planned a couple swop ... I really thought it would be your girlfriend that I got. *cough*
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Ragnar Severasse
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.06 00:53:50 -
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Well to address the topic, I think I heard somewhere that there is some sort of gene that people have that encourages altruism.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.03.06 00:57:38 -
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Ragnar Severasse wrote:Well to address the topic, I think I heard somewhere that there is some sort of gene that people have that encourages altruism. Indeed there are people who are more altruistic naturally, however, as soon as you have a high number of altruists, the self genes sweep through and out compete them. Altruism is not evolutionary stable.
The thread plan was that people post small snippets that get others thinking.
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Ragnar Severasse
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.06 02:24:40 -
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My personal philosophy is that there's nothing after death, therefore you should make the most out of life. Or leave behind a positive impact on your peers or whatever.
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.06 02:34:09 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Altruism is not evolutionary stable.
I don't know if this is true. If altruism is rare, and other members of the species react favorably to it to protect the altruist, maybe altruism is the super-survival gene.
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Ragnar Severasse
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.06 02:43:10 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Altruism is not evolutionary stable.
I don't know if this is true. If altruism is rare, and other members of the species react favorably to it to protect the altruist, maybe altruism is the super-survival gene.
I'm pretty sure that's the point of having the gene. Altruists are generally very well liked. People will make sure that the Altruists are safe so that they can help people even more. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.03.06 05:11:30 -
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Ragnar Severasse wrote:My personal philosophy is that there's nothing after death. I like to believe there is nothing, no pain, no memories, no regrets, nothing. Only sweet oblivion. I find that very liberating.
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2015.03.07 00:48:31 -
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What if what's called "altruism" is actually the natural behavior of this species? It hasn't been that long in human history that there was much concept of the individual, independently-going human. Through the many millenia until about their were large-ish cities, everybody was a part of a family, band, clan, or tribe. Those were the units that did things. Sure, individual members had their own personalities and own dramas going on. But being overly selfish in a group that shares resources won't be tolerated for long. You can be an Alpha, which is aggressive and self-aggrandizing. But with that comes putting yourself forth as a leader/caretaker, with altruistic responsibilities for caring for the community. Pure selfish aggression wouldn't work, in the long run. You'd have to balance it with some charisma and care for the community. Kind of hard to play-act fake care for people, over days and days laboring together by day, and around fires at night. People in tight communities smell a rat pretty quick.
If you were consistently selfish and didn't show some care for other members of the group, you could end up ostracized, criminal, or a pariah you could get ousted. Which wouldn't help your chances of survival that much. Kind of hard to survive solo, in a sustenance world. No place to dock up, and tough to catch or grow enough food on your own. You might end up like the mysterious Stone Age guy Oetzi the Ice Man, trying to cross the Alps solo in winter .
So, what if what we term "altruism" is really selfish-ism? If you don't have care for other humans, you can get you ejected from the group. Or tolerated, but pushed out to the margins? That might make sense in the "organisms trying to maximize their own gain and reproduce" clinical view of the biology.
Don't know, but my grandma and grandpa were altruists to us little dumbarses. They didn't seem to have decided to be altruists. They'd just been around a long time, and they were pretty cool to humans, animals, plants, and about anything else.
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Ragnar Severasse
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.08 00:40:38 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:What if what's called "altruism" is actually the natural behavior of this species? It hasn't been that long in human history that there was much concept of the individual, independently-going human. Through the many millenia until about their were large-ish cities, everybody was a part of a family, band, clan, or tribe. Those were the units that did things. Sure, individual members had their own personalities and own dramas going on. But being overly selfish in a group that shares resources won't be tolerated for long. You can be an Alpha, which is aggressive and self-aggrandizing. But with that comes putting yourself forth as a leader/caretaker, with altruistic responsibilities for caring for the community. Pure selfish aggression wouldn't work, in the long run. You'd have to balance it with some charisma and care for the community. Kind of hard to play-act fake care for people, over days and days laboring together by day, and around fires at night. People in tight communities smell a rat pretty quick. If you were consistently selfish and didn't show some care for other members of the group, you could end up ostracized, criminal, or a pariah you could get ousted. Which wouldn't help your chances of survival that much. Kind of hard to survive solo, in a sustenance world. No place to dock up, and tough to catch or grow enough food on your own. You might end up like the mysterious Stone Age guy Oetzi the Ice Man, trying to cross the Alps solo in winter . So, what if what we term "altruism" is really selfish-ism? If you don't have care for other humans, you can get you ejected from the group. Or tolerated, but pushed out to the margins? That might make sense in the "organisms trying to maximize their own gain and reproduce" clinical view of the biology. Don't know, but my grandma and grandpa were altruists to us little dumbarses. They didn't seem to have consciously decided to be altruists. They'd just been around a long time, and they were pretty cool to everything and everybody. Just how they'd turned out after 70 80 years of life in this environment.
The first human societies were egalitarian. |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.09 17:37:06 -
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I'm pretty sure there's a little big giant cloud of whimsical confusion floating all over the delimitation line between the notions survival and comfort. It only takes instinct to form a pack, society is an outcome of complex communication skills slowly eroded or brutally enforced by hierarchic comfort policies. |
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.03.09 17:41:11 -
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I do keep saying that religion is a relic that we as societies can shed as the important bits are done by other institutions.
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.09 18:46:08 -
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Meh, the opportunists are already ruling the other institutions. |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2015.03.12 23:11:08 -
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A big problem with religions is most religious people don't understand what the founder/founders actually said. Or even bother to read the original source, and decide on their own. They're just a member of a group following some tradition, which after many years of doctrinizing and politics, may not have much of the original message left in it.
A foolish man prays to the statue of Shiva and thinks its a god. A little wiser man says, "That's just a piece of carved wood." A wiser man says, "That is just a poor physical representation of a profound concept." -The Upanishads
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Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
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Posted - 2015.03.12 23:14:45 -
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religion is just a tool to keep the masses at bay and make them accept their lower status |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:25:50 -
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I thought that was what Budweiser was for.
"My mule don't like laughing. You can apologize to my mule and can be alright."
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:31:40 -
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I thought that was what EVE was for?
"Are we bigots for shunning racist people?"
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Khergit Deserters
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Posted - 2015.03.13 02:41:59 -
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The ignorant, stupid and hard-headed are always among us. Probably best not to try to sort out which one is which. Dogs, cats, birds, reptiles, and small children can do that for you.
"My mule don't like laughing. You can apologize to my mule and can be alright."
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.03.14 03:13:15 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:-xxX-Karl L337 Marxxx Fixed.
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.14 07:38:37 -
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Who dat Karl Max?!?! James 315 said dat!!
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Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
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Posted - 2015.03.14 14:03:41 -
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James 315 is Karl Marx reincarnate ?! |
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.03.14 16:01:59 -
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Gimme Sake wrote:Who dat Karl Max?!?! James 315 said dat!! :P The way followers of The Order are so evangelical I have classified CODE as a cult, much like Jehova's equally annoying and harmless.
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:39:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:-xxX-Karl L337 Marxxx Fixed. HA!
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.15 04:19:10 -
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What's not "evangelical" about social movements? Comfortably justified ideas adopted as the script recommends. Are they followed out of altruism or they are merely a satisfying excuse to avoid it? |
Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.03.16 02:07:52 -
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Gimme Sake wrote:What's not "evangelical" about social movements? Comfortably justified ideas adopted as the script recommends. Are they followed out of altruism or they are merely a satisfying excuse to avoid it? Some ideas catch on, go viral and spread like wild fire, others get a few zealots trying to ram it down people's throats.
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SOV is stagnant because Low Sec is not the next step from High Sec and a viable place to grow alliances to the point they can challenge Null alliances.
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.16 03:04:45 -
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Gimme Sake wrote:Are they followed out of altruism or they are merely a satisfying excuse to avoid it?
Typically if you have folks soliciting you, you will wonder what they want from you instead of what they will give you. Social movements are no different from corporations in dimensions of agenda and greed. They are simply more cellular, and less monolithic.
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2015.03.17 01:34:54 -
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What's strange is when you have people so devoted to some peaceful/beneficent social movement that they become aggressive about it. You know, approaching and blocking innocent strangers and demanding that the sign petitions, get on mailing lists, and of course donate money. The idea of the movement is peaceful and well-meaning, but the hardcore believers are as about as angry, militant, thick-headed and aggressive as any redneck fash-ist jackboot.
Humans.... some of them just don't try to get it, or even try to get it.
Anyway, an example of when members of a nice social movement sadly try to get a little too aggressive.... They should have listened to Gandhi and MLK maybe?
"My mule don't like laughing. You can apologize to my mule and can be alright."
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.03.17 05:22:07 -
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Quote:Do not be greedy! Chinese: F¦¬S+ìs+ùFâ£; pinyin: T-ün b+¦d+¬ sh+¿ng; literally: "Greed cannot prevail"
Your enemy's key point is your own key point.
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SOV is stagnant because Low Sec is not the next step from High Sec and a viable place to grow alliances to the point they can challenge Null alliances.
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2015.03.17 18:17:48 -
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My wife and I lived happily for 25 years. Then we met. -Rodney Daingerfield
"My mule don't like laughing. You can apologize to my mule and can be alright."
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2015.03.30 00:21:06 -
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Such a nice almost-Spring day here in New York, USA that I necroed this thread and wrote a haiku:
Snow still, in the shade But in the sun, yeh old grill You're hotting up good
I wanted to add something about my yellow dog going crazy all over the yard on his rope toy. But there was no way to work that in in 5-7-5 syllables. Good thing about haiku is it puts the kabosh on tl:dr,
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.03.30 08:15:20 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIy76M-4txo
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow.
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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