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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:01:55 -
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With Tiamat, to be released on February 17, we will get first improvements to the management of corporations aimed to support CEO's and directors with managing their corporations.
Regular members will also benefit from the new "Friendly Fire" toggle which allows corporations to choose (with a cooldown of 24 hours) if friendly fire within the corporation stays legal as it is now or if it should become illegal so that CONCORD will take action.
Read more about the Friendly Fire control and the corporations management improvements in CCP Punkturis' latest blog Corp Little Things & Friendly Fire Control.
CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5653
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:02:55 -
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o/
GÖÑ EVE Brogrammer
GÖÑ Team Five 0 GÖÑ
@CCP_Punkturis GÖÑ
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CCP Masterplan
C C P C C P Alliance
1677
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:03:25 -
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Shoot all the greens!
"This one time, on patch day..."
@ccp_masterplan | Team Five-0: Rewriting the law
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
BFG Tech
167
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:10:32 -
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First non-dev?
Dominique Vasilkovsky EVEboard
Once known as:
Mashie Saldana sold - Anastasia Rigel sold - Monica Foulkes sold
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CCP Lebowski
C C P C C P Alliance
451
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:11:19 -
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Turn your safetys on for Tiamat!
Or, you know, don't. I'm not the boss of you.....
CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
@CCP_Lebowski
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big miker
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
269
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:18:08 -
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Can't wait for the roles update though
Latest video: Ferocious 4.0 Official Release
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CCP Rise
C C P C C P Alliance
4875
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:18:57 -
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I'm obsessed with Tove Lo. Great blog!
@ccp_rise
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TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:19:26 -
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CCP wrote:Your communities keep getting bigger and more popular, with groups such as Spectre Fleet and RvB Ganked getting close to the maximum mailing list size. To enable them to keep growing, weGÇÖve upped the limit on mailing list membership from 3000 people to 5000.
So, we now upped the amount of people in a corporation limit, the limit of mailing lists, but Contracts and Market Orders stay still the same. I really dont get this.
The "What next?" looks awesome btw. |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
12207
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:28:21 -
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Dominique Vasilkovsky wrote:So by default will the safety be on or off come Fab 17th?
Existing corps will default to friendly fire being legal, since that's the way it works pre-patch.
New corps will have to choose which option they prefer at corp creation.
Game Designer | Team Five-0
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CCP Sharq
C C P C C P Alliance
148
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:33:56 -
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Rock & Roles!
CCP Sharq | Team Five-0
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Lyron-Baktos
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
471
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:38:51 -
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Hopefully the changes to roles is right around the corner |
John McCreedy
Eve Defence Force The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:42:45 -
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So pretty much this is a high-sec only change because it does precisely bog all for low sec and null sec where there's no concord. Any fool can still join a corp, can still awox by running around shooting everyone in your corp, your alliance and your blue list, you still can't remove them until they've docked or logged off which in itself assumes you have a Director or CEO online because you still haven't added the option to remove people from a corporation to the Personnel Officer role, and, if they have roles, still can't remove them for 24 hours, the inevitable conclusion being that you're removed from your alliance as a precaution, are invariably trapped in what is now hostile space, having to wait for your application back to the alliance to be accepted by the Alliance leader, who, if on holiday, leaves you right up the shitter without a paddle thereby ruining the game experience for that entire corporation's members. This is not a worthwhile change. |
Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:51:45 -
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"Setting friendly fire as legal or illegal"
Can you elaborate on how this will work with FW and faction standing hits? If the setting is illegal, will you take a faction standing hit (like shooting friendly militia today) or no standing hit (like shooting a FW corpmate today)? Can you also confirm that after this change that if friendly fire is legal, shooting a corp mate will continue to not incur a faction standing penalty.
QCATS is recruiting:-á
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3896299
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GeeShizzle MacCloud
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:56:06 -
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...drools at the final teaser picture
in all seriousness great improvements all round, and a well stated case for the friendly fire change too!
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CCP Masterplan
C C P C C P Alliance
1680
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:59:09 -
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Andre Vauban wrote:"Setting friendly fire as legal or illegal"
Can you elaborate on how this will work with FW and faction standing hits? If the setting is illegal, will you take a faction standing hit (like shooting friendly militia today) or no standing hit (like shooting a FW corpmate today)? Can you also confirm that after this change that if friendly fire is legal, shooting a corp mate will continue to not incur a faction standing penalty.
If both characters are in the same faction: * A legal attack on a corpmate will not incur any faction penalty * An illegal attack on a corpmate will incur a faction penalty Limited engagements and other cases will always make an attack legal, regardless of the corp setting.
"This one time, on patch day..."
@ccp_masterplan | Team Five-0: Rewriting the law
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Shailagh
WTB Somalians
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:00:47 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Dominique Vasilkovsky wrote:So by default will the safety be on or off come Fab 17th? Existing corps will default to friendly fire being legal, since that's the way it works pre-patch. New corps will have to choose which option they prefer at corp creation.
You left out that for new corps that "choose", the defaulted option is FF Off... |
Shailagh
WTB Somalians
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:14:06 -
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It says in the corp search, you can filter out all the evil FF-ON corps. Will you be giving us the option to filter out the risk-adverse FF-OFF corps? And only search for FF Enabled corps??
If not, why the disparity? |
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CCP Lebowski
C C P C C P Alliance
451
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:15:25 -
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John McCreedy wrote:So pretty much this is a high-sec only change because it does precisely bog all for low sec and null sec where there's no concord. Any fool can still join a corp, can still awox by running around shooting everyone in your corp [...] Correct! These friendly fire changes only affect the 'legality' of an offensive act against corp mates, so will mostly only affect actions in high sec. This is completely intentional.
John McCreedy wrote: [...] you still can't remove them until they've docked or logged off which in itself assumes you have a Director or CEO online because you still haven't added the option to remove people from a corporation to the Personnel Officer role, and, if they have roles, still can't remove them for 24 hours, the inevitable conclusion being that you're removed from your alliance as a precaution, are invariably trapped in what is now hostile space, having to wait for your application back to the alliance to be accepted by the Alliance leader, who, if on holiday, leaves you right up the shitter without a paddle thereby ruining the game experience for that entire corporation's members. This is not a worthwhile change. That seems to be a really specific set of circumstances that have lead to that situation!
There's also a really good reason you can't kick someone while they are logged on in space, as this could lead to all manner of war dec and crimewatch explotation (Just one off the top of my head: Guy joins legal ff corp, directer tells guy to shoot him, director kicks guys before he opens fire, guy opens fire and suffers a swift death at the hands of concord) As we mentioned in the blog, the work Five 0 are doing on the roles system is underway, and concerns such as yours about the personnel manager will be taken into account, but the work is currently not ready to be discussed so please bear with us and watch out for more communication from Five 0 in the future!
Additionally, you may not be aware but we've recently added a corp auto kick queue that ensures unwanted members are kicked from the corp at the next downtime, which does a small amount to mitigate your problem.
John McCreedy wrote:How would you like me to take a job in CCP, bring a Cricket bat with me and start tearing up the place, smashing the computers and knocking seven bells out of the staff and laugh as it takes you twenty four hours to get rid of me assuming Hilmar is at work that day? That's what it is to be a CEO in low sec/null sec in Eve. I'm no expert on the subject but I'm fairly sure our hiring process would mitigate this concern, maybe yours should too?
CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
@CCP_Lebowski
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Shailagh
WTB Somalians
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:19:31 -
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CCP Lebowski wrote: I'm no expert on the subject but I'm fairly sure our hiring process would mitigate this concern, maybe yours should too? Lol
Lol if bears were capable of doing so, this change wouldnt be necessary. Dont we all wish their corps could have standards to hiring but come on man, we dont live in Neverland. This is eve where ceos just randomly click Accept and need to be protected from their actions by you devs |
Shailagh
WTB Somalians
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:30:07 -
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Seriously why cant we search only for corps with FF Enabled (legal)??? |
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l0rd carlos
TURN DOWN. The Camel Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:31:02 -
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CCP Rise wrote:I'm obsessed with Tove Lo. Great blog!
Mmmm, the Hippie Sabotage Remix from Habits (Stay High) is pretty nice.
German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com
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CCP Lebowski
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:35:28 -
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Shailagh wrote:You left out that for new corps that "choose", the defaulted option is FF Off... Saying that the option is default off is not quite fair as it's simply a check-box in the 'Create Corporation' window and can be changed before the Corp is created.
Here's the window for reference.
Shailagh wrote:It says in the corp search, you can filter out all the evil FF-ON corps. Will you be giving us the option to filter out the risk-adverse FF-OFF corps? And only search for FF Enabled corps??
If not, why the disparity? This was simply done in the same way that the current 'Exclude Corporations in Alliances' checkbox works, and was not intentionally meant to only provide one option and not the other. I agree with you on this, it might be best to give both options, and Ill see if the team agrees and if its feasible for Tiamat.
CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
@CCP_Lebowski
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Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
808
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:47:45 -
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CCP Lebowski wrote:John McCreedy wrote:How would you like me to take a job in CCP, bring a Cricket bat with me and start tearing up the place, smashing the computers and knocking seven bells out of the staff and laugh as it takes you twenty four hours to get rid of me assuming Hilmar is at work that day? That's what it is to be a CEO in low sec/null sec in Eve. I'm no expert on the subject but I'm fairly sure our hiring process would mitigate this concern, maybe yours should too?
Yeah, like CCP would hire someone brandishing something as timid as a cricket bat.
Vote Sabriz!
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CCP Lebowski
C C P C C P Alliance
453
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:48:13 -
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Damn son, you're not wrong!
CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
@CCP_Lebowski
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Jakob Anedalle
Aideron Robotics
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:55:16 -
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I notice that in some screenshots the values for Friendly Fire was "Legal / Illegal" and in some it was "Enable/Disable"
Recommend using one value pair for consistency.
Trying out all the things to do here in Eve - it's quite a checklist.
So I made a blog Jakob's Eve Checklist
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CCP Lebowski
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:59:14 -
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Jakob Anedalle wrote:I notice that in some screenshots the values for Friendly Fire was "Legal / Illegal" and in some it was "Enable/Disable"
Recommend using one value pair for consistency. Well spotted! This has been changed to "Legal/Illegal" in all cases now, if you do notice any inconsistencies on Singularity or after Tiamat hits TQ feel free to submit a bug report and I'll make sure its fixed.
CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
@CCP_Lebowski
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
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Posted - 2015.02.09 17:00:46 -
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how much does concord protection cost?
how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
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Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
252
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Posted - 2015.02.09 17:07:18 -
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AWOXing simply meant tackling someone in a shiny ship and cynoing / jumping a hostile fleet on top of them to kill them. Nowadays it is used for pretty much any blue-on-blue spy-related incident.
Please allow the tackling of corp members
The players will make a better version of the game, then CCP initially plans.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13999
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Posted - 2015.02.09 17:13:34 -
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Shooting myself you say...
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Soko99
Repercussus Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.09 17:13:43 -
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So what's the cost of this beautiful CONCORD protection?
After all, everything should have a price. If there's no COST to turning friendly fire OFF, then why would any HS corp ever turn it ON?
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