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Intar Medris
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.10 16:02:29 -
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Just came back after a brief break. Read up on new and up coming features. One thing that caught my eye is CEOs being able to set on option for CONCORD to respond to intracorp conflicts. So basically CCP is nerfing awoxing. Get ready ready high sec gankers your next to be made obsolete. First can flippers now awoxers. Next suicide gankers. Let's all go hug a ******* carebear in celebration.
I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.
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Lupe Meza
Hedion University Amarr Empire
56
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Posted - 2015.02.10 16:06:34 -
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Seriously. It's like people will may have to leave High Sec for better PVP opportunities. 'Sup with that? |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji.
1908
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Posted - 2015.02.10 16:21:48 -
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Intar Medris wrote:Just came back after a brief break. Read up on new and up coming features. One thing that caught my eye is CEOs being able to set on option for CONCORD to respond to intracorp conflicts. So basically CCP is nerfing awoxing. Get ready ready high sec gankers your next to be made obsolete. First can flippers now awoxers. Next suicide gankers. Let's all go hug a ******* carebear in celebration.
You can always, I dunno, not join that corp. Or quit that corp and use the existing war dec mechanics to prevent them from say, undocking if they are carebears. |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
833
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Posted - 2015.02.10 16:21:51 -
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Is this like you cant shoot your corp mate because settings are at green.
Or you can but you will get concorded?
The times i shoot my self and spread space aids not good not! |
Aistar Perihelion
Perihelion Corp.
3
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Posted - 2015.02.10 16:27:01 -
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I dont know whats your problem. If you are or want to become one of ass***holes called awoxers you just need to look for corps with secure setting turned off. Thats it. You will still be able to find corp of your dreams and stab them well.
It is long awaited change to normalize things. Concord not reacting to offense in hisec is bug and is wrong, nothing normal. This patch will fix it.
Concord is dumb and slow as it is allowing ass**holes for many, many evil actions. If you hate police, go to w-space.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9694
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Posted - 2015.02.10 16:30:43 -
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What I always find funny in these situations is that the people who are happy about it are always so clueless.
After the exhumer buff, the gankers retaliated and killed MORE mining ships. After the change to freighters gankers killed MORE freighters. after CCP changes a 'safety' mechanic in high sec, the ganking community rallies, adapts and makes things WORSE for the people celebrating.
It's mainly because the 'safety' types don't understand who they are dealing with. The way to make gankers not exist isn't artificial game mechanics changes from on high (ccp), it's individual effort and awareness and not crying when blown up because lots of gankers do it for the lulz/tears. It's like the safety types are Darth Vader and can't help but make obi wan more powerful than they can imagine (lol).
But that's not how the 'safety' crowd things, so the cycle will continue. The 'safety' carebear crowd will crow about the friendly fire thing like it's a victory, the ganker crowd will retaliate with MORE ganks/awoxes, scamms, which will lead to ever more calls for CCP to increase high sec safety. It's a vicious and stupid cycle lol.
Those of us who already take individual action (tanking our ships, being aware and at the keyboard, making friends, using the already existing in-game tools to neutralize the gankers before they even log in) and almost never get ganked are the ones who won't be affect at all by any change. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
8832
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Posted - 2015.02.10 16:32:06 -
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its not gone, you can flip it off for 24h(minimum) if you get director roles.
CCP Lebowski wrote:A CEO or director can Enable/Disable friendly fire using the Enable/Disable toggle button found in the Corporation Window in the Home -> Details tab. Doing this is always subject to a warm-up/cool-down timer of 24 hours as i said it's not gone, just requires more work
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Miss Masquerade
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2015.02.10 16:43:16 -
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There are probably a million ways to get your ass'ets destroyed in eve
Not running short on death and destruction anytime soon... |
Intar Medris
Viziam Amarr Empire
222
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Posted - 2015.02.10 16:46:11 -
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Aistar Perihelion wrote:I dont know whats your problem. If you are or want to become one of ass***holes called awoxers you just need to look for corps with secure setting turned off. Thats it. You will still be able to find corp of your dreams and stab them well.
It is long awaited change to normalize things. Concord not reacting to offense in hisec is bug and is wrong, nothing normal. This patch will fix it.
Concord is dumb and slow as it is allowing ass**holes for many, many evil actions. If you hate police, go to w-space.
When I get home I might check to see if there is a CEO stupid enough to leave it turned off. Chances though of that are ******* slim. Basically what this does is just about remove the need for CEOs to properly vet potential corp members. Checking a box requires almost no effort like checking a KB does. If the awoxer even has one.
Wars are also to easy to evade. Seen whole corps drop out of corp the second on is declared.
Awoxing was never a bug. It was as intended to be. That is till CCP effectively nerfed it.
I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.
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Joan Miles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2015.02.10 17:10:18 -
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Nerfing AWOX .. Nope
Adding consequence if you want to AWOX .. Yes
Did you plan on Awoxing newbie carebear corps and saying : "Mkay..thanks..bye noobs" ? Awww so sorry they ruined it for you. Carebear safe self proclaimed PvPers are worse than actual carebears. |
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1970
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Posted - 2015.02.10 17:15:30 -
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AWOX Status: Nerfed Carebear Status: Still Butthurt
CCP's quest to satisfy the unsatisfiable continues...
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
8834
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Posted - 2015.02.10 17:23:16 -
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Intar Medris wrote:Aistar Perihelion wrote:I dont know whats your problem. If you are or want to become one of ass***holes called awoxers you just need to look for corps with secure setting turned off. Thats it. You will still be able to find corp of your dreams and stab them well.
It is long awaited change to normalize things. Concord not reacting to offense in hisec is bug and is wrong, nothing normal. This patch will fix it.
Concord is dumb and slow as it is allowing ass**holes for many, many evil actions. If you hate police, go to w-space.
When I get home I might check to see if there is a CEO stupid enough to leave it turned off. Chances though of that are ******* slim. Basically what this does is just about remove the need for CEOs to properly vet potential corp members. Checking a box requires almost no effort like checking a KB does. If the awoxer even has one. Wars are also to easy to evade. Seen whole corps drop out of corp the second on is declared. Awoxing was never a bug. It was as intended to be. That is till CCP effectively nerfed it. Hasn't been implemented yet.
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Shailagh
WTB Somalians
87
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Posted - 2015.02.10 17:40:22 -
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Wardec nerf coming next.
Ccp is only doing these awox changes because they said they thinks it keeps corps from recruiting noobs which their data shows means they will quit more (lower retention rate) so ccp gets less money.
They have said this is their reasoning over and over and that they need to find ways to get noobs into corps and to make said corps want to recruit noobs.
Ccp thinks awoxing is the cause of this lmao.
Ccp it aint ******* rocket science, the MAIN REASON NOOBS STAY IN NPC CORPS AND THAT PEOPLE DROP TO NPC CORPS IS WAR EVASION
Once ccp realise carebear corps STILL WONT RECRUUIT NOOBS after this awox nerf, wardec nerf is next logical target.
It only makes sense.
Wars going away/hard nerf. Makes sense with their point of view |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5086
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Posted - 2015.02.10 17:45:47 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:What I always find funny in these situations is that the people who are happy about it are always so clueless.
After the exhumer buff, the gankers retaliated and killed MORE mining ships. After the change to freighters gankers killed MORE freighters. after CCP changes a 'safety' mechanic in high sec, the ganking community rallies, adapts and makes things WORSE for the people celebrating.
It's mainly because the 'safety' types don't understand who they are dealing with. The way to make gankers not exist isn't artificial game mechanics changes from on high (ccp), it's individual effort and awareness and not crying when blown up because lots of gankers do it for the lulz/tears. It's like the safety types are Darth Vader and can't help but make obi wan more powerful than they can imagine (lol).
But that's not how the 'safety' crowd things, so the cycle will continue. The 'safety' carebear crowd will crow about the friendly fire thing like it's a victory, the ganker crowd will retaliate with MORE ganks/awoxes, scamms, which will lead to ever more calls for CCP to increase high sec safety. It's a vicious and stupid cycle lol.
Those of us who already take individual action (tanking our ships, being aware and at the keyboard, making friends, using the already existing in-game tools to neutralize the gankers before they even log in) and almost never get ganked are the ones who won't be affect at all by any change. It's funny how you say this, yet the gankers complain just as much. Just because they also throw their little tantrums by going out and blowing up more ships, it doesn't mean they aren't equally as tearful over basically every change. CODE exists in it's entirety because James 315 has had a tantrum lasting several years over old mining barge changes, and the swarm of players that descend with insults and trolling into every "carebear" thread are basically the same type of player.
But you are probably right in one respect. People will complain about gankers and awoxers getting an easy ride (which they do), CCP will make a change, gankers will cry and gank more to get their own back and the cycle continues. All the time people can prove that escalating the frequency and volume of ganks is trivial, they are proving that there's a balance issue there and CCP will continue to address it. So people whining against this change only have themselves to blame.
At the end of the day though, this change is coming in because CCP believes it will help encourage players to more freely recruit newbies thus getting more newbies into the game. Many people agree. It's happening, so quit whining about it.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5086
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Posted - 2015.02.10 17:51:08 -
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Intar Medris wrote:Checking a box requires almost no effort like checking a KB does. If the awoxer even has one. This is the core of the problem. You talk about vetting members, but in many cases theres nothing to vet. Awox alts are often fresh alts with clean APIs, much like a new player. The most effective way to "vet" a player with no history is to not recruit them below a certain SP, so an awoxer would need to invest too much time into a character to bother. The problem with that is that it's made many CEOs reject newbies, meaning that a newbie is severely limited in their choice of corp.
All this change does is remove that barrier so that newbies can get in the door. People still need to vet their applicants, you can still rob from the corp and lure them into war targets or lowsec, or hijack and disband the corp. It simply means that the ridiculously easy "Join corp - shoot players - laugh" path is being removed..
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
4238
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Posted - 2015.02.10 17:53:18 -
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Quote:Forum rules3. Ranting is prohibited.A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.
As a reminder before closing this thread, the ability to awox is being left alone and you have to actively disable it before it will have consequences. Yay!
Thread closed.
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